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[jupiter9]

If the real shit happens you'll need a property of land to be able to produce food. Stocking food for 1 month lasts only for 1 month. What if things last longer? Well in that case you would depend on your governments. I hope everything will be fine and we won't need that.

It would be more practical and cost effective for most just to stock 1 year supply of tinned food. If real shit happens, and goes for that long, you plantation will probably be raided by hordes of hungry and violent people way sooner.

Many assumptions that people do make when they consider some sort of "real shit" scenario are wrong or not the really shitty scenario conditions. Ie: Will you have enough water supply to keep growing your veggies? Food to feed your livestock? Will you be able to protect your "land"?

So Keep it simple: Have resources ready to use that don't depend on external resources or conditions. Tin food is probably the best and you have ages to consume it even if you overstock. So no real extra cost here. Heck, maybe you will even manage to get a quantity discount!

Anyway, I still think this levels of paranoia are too much unjustified... but if you want to be "prepped", do it the right way. The simpler the better.

Yes! Isolated and self sufficient communties have advantage in that case.

[rolling]

Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific

Now extrapolate to the entire world being infected. Cause that's the most likely scenario. Show us the numbers.

I would say the Korean numbers are probably the most accurate in the world because they are testing everyone. The US charges for everything so most sick people are not going to go to the hospital for a slight sickness. China and Iran are outright lying.

Based on the Korean numbers, the death rate is 0.5% but likely higher because of the lag between getting sick and dying, but let's say it's 0.5%. If the whole world gets it, that's 35 million people dead. Granted, a lot of these people would have died from the flu or some other disease anyway but still, that is a lot of people.

Interestingly though, if the Korean numbers are correct, there should be over 600,000 infected in China based on 3000 deaths, rather than the 80,000 they are reporting.

[Phil_S]

"Skate to where the puck is going, not where it has been on 10th of February".

[Ibian]

Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific

Now extrapolate to the entire world being infected. Cause that's the most likely scenario. Show us the numbers.

I would say the Korean numbers are probably the most accurate in the world because they are testing everyone. The US charges for everything so most sick people are not going to go to the hospital for a slight sickness. China and Iran are outright lying.

Based on the Korean numbers, the death rate is 0.5% but likely higher because of the lag between getting sick and dying, but let's say it's 0.5%. If the whole world gets it, that's 35 million people dead. Granted, a lot of these people would have died from the flu or some other disease anyway but still, that is a lot of people.

Interestingly though, if the Korean numbers are correct, there should be over 600,000 infected in China based on 3000 deaths, rather than the 80,000 they are reporting.

Gentle reminder that the death rate continues to be calculated wrong. It's dead/(dead+cured). Which is closer to 10%, especially as the world gets overwhelmed. Supposedly all of England only has 15 beds for serious cases.

And yeah china is lying. Not only are they commies and thus prone to lying in the first place, but they also have glass hearts. They can't tolerate looking bad. Just assume it's at least ten times as bad as what they are saying.

[AlcoHoDL]

Her daddy or not,
Never wank with dirty hands,
And flush when you're done.

#haiku

[lightfoot]

If the real shit happens you'll need a property of land to be able to produce food. Stocking food for 1 month lasts only for 1 month. What if things get longer? Well in that case you would depend on your governments. I hope everything will be fine and we won't need that.

As always, it's a matter of balancing risks. Most disasters last a week or so, most power outages last a day or so. Within 2 weeks things are usually at a stable point, so a month's worth of resources should allow you to ride out the problems in a sense of style. Now if disruptions are for a year or so then yeah you need to start banding together with your neighbors/state/country and deal with things and having a month's worth of resources gives you the time to set that shit up.

Having enough land to produce food, having all the tools to produce food, the fertilizer on hand to produce it long term, seeds, plants that make seeds, and so forth can get very expensive to maintain. That's money that you can't use to buy bitcoin, invest in the future, and so forth. If the apocalypse doesn't happen you will be further behind other people, and if it does you may be ahead of other people but you will still be living in a serious crap-sack universe.

Preventing that crap-sack universe by having a reasonable government, getting involved with your community, and contributing to a better tomorrow despite the fact that some (many, most) people are fuck-heads could be a better investment over becoming the king of MREs.

So, there you go. You place your bets and take your chances with life. In business many people have placed all their bets on stuff coming from cheap china. This probably paid off well when times were good, but when bad things happen the question is did they save enough money to cover a service disruption? If so they have a crappy year. If not they go out of business. Jury is still out if China is dead for a week (on hand supplies used), a month (reserves), a year (suppliers) or a decade (you're fucked if you depended on them). We shall see.

[rolling]

Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific

Now extrapolate to the entire world being infected. Cause that's the most likely scenario. Show us the numbers.

I would say the Korean numbers are probably the most accurate in the world because they are testing everyone. The US charges for everything so most sick people are not going to go to the hospital for a slight sickness. China and Iran are outright lying.

Based on the Korean numbers, the death rate is 0.5% but likely higher because of the lag between getting sick and dying, but let's say it's 0.5%. If the whole world gets it, that's 35 million people dead. Granted, a lot of these people would have died from the flu or some other disease anyway but still, that is a lot of people.

Interestingly though, if the Korean numbers are correct, there should be over 600,000 infected in China based on 3000 deaths, rather than the 80,000 they are reporting.

Gentle reminder that the death rate continues to be calculated wrong. It's dead/(dead+cured). Which is closer to 10%, especially as the world gets overwhelmed. Supposedly all of England only has 15 beds for serious cases.

And yeah china is lying. Not only are they commies and thus prone to lying in the first place, but they also have glass hearts. They can't tolerate looking bad. Just assume it's at least ten times as bad as what they are saying.

Yeah, the normally quoted death rate is likely only considering people who were admitted to the hospital. We were talking about if everyone in the world caught it, where 90% of people won't even seek medical care.

[Ibian]

Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific

Now extrapolate to the entire world being infected. Cause that's the most likely scenario. Show us the numbers.

I would say the Korean numbers are probably the most accurate in the world because they are testing everyone. The US charges for everything so most sick people are not going to go to the hospital for a slight sickness. China and Iran are outright lying.

Based on the Korean numbers, the death rate is 0.5% but likely higher because of the lag between getting sick and dying, but let's say it's 0.5%. If the whole world gets it, that's 35 million people dead. Granted, a lot of these people would have died from the flu or some other disease anyway but still, that is a lot of people.

Interestingly though, if the Korean numbers are correct, there should be over 600,000 infected in China based on 3000 deaths, rather than the 80,000 they are reporting.

Gentle reminder that the death rate continues to be calculated wrong. It's dead/(dead+cured). Which is closer to 10%, especially as the world gets overwhelmed. Supposedly all of England only has 15 beds for serious cases.

And yeah china is lying. Not only are they commies and thus prone to lying in the first place, but they also have glass hearts. They can't tolerate looking bad. Just assume it's at least ten times as bad as what they are saying.

Yeah, the normally quoted death rate is likely only considering people who were admitted to the hospital. We were talking about if everyone in the world caught it, where 90% of people won't even seek medical care.

Yes. Exactly. In china especially, a lot of people are just going to die at home and they are not being counted. It's probably way higher than just 10x over there.

[kurious]

Syllable counting,
what haiku is all about,
such an epic fail.

I got this motherfuckers.

Congratulations
Your syllables are correct
Haiku perfection

[Cryptotourist]

"who's" is one syllable. Fix it by "Who is your daddy ?"

Also in poem form:

+1 WO's merit

#

Her daddy or not,
Never wank with dirty hands,
And flush when you're done.

#haiku

+2 WO's merit

#

Congratulations
Your syllables are correct
Haiku perfection

+3 WO's merit

Fucking WO merit debt inflation.

"Roses are red, violets are blue, all wanna know is wut dat mouf do".

[Tash]

Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific

Now extrapolate to the entire world being infected. Cause that's the most likely scenario. Show us the numbers.

Anyone not a (San Fransisco bay area) homeless, has a healthy immune-system, plenty of Vitamine C and enjoys sunshine, chances are not any of the coronaviruses will be a major bother.
Anyone freezing on the side of the road has medical issues abused the immune-system with drugs or whatnot, is malnourished and lacks Vitamine C, things could get interesting.

So about 9,500,000 people died this year, lets say (cough) 3000 from the COVID-19 disease that is 0.031% and most of them old and sick already.

[Lambie Slayer]

"Bitcoin loves to make its way through guards, and breaks through barriers of stone more easily than the lightning’s bolt.” – Horace

[Dabs]

For you dooms day preppers (it's on netflix), I think have enough canned food for a couple of months, and for you walking dead types have enough firearms and ammo stashed close by or on hand. Live in a gated community and have physical barriers set up.

A lot of homes in the first world countries do not have fences or are just token ones you can easily jump over. If it's legal where you live, you might want to put a cement wall on your property, as high as you are allowed to have.

The compound Osama lived in and was raided, that had decent walls. It's zombie proof and mob proof, but not government proof if some SWAT team wants to check you out.

[d_eddie]

There was a young bitcoiner called cryptotourist
Who, far from being a haiku purist
Used dodgy counting tools
Taking us all quite for fools
And telling us all about his poor wrist.

Spicy limericks over contemplative haikus any day, eh?

+1 WoSMerit

[d_eddie]

Syllable counting,
what haiku is all about,
such an epic fail.

I got this motherfuckers.

Better count by ear,
you got it, motherfucker!
Gave you my last one

[bkbirge]

Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific

[d_eddie]

Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific

TL;DR Keep calm and wash hands.


+1 WoSMerit

[bkbirge]

Preventing that crap-sack universe by having a reasonable government, getting involved with your community, and contributing to a better tomorrow despite the fact that some (many, most) people are fuck-heads could be a better investment over becoming the king of MREs.

Well said. If the shit really hits the fan what will save us is working together not living out a Mad Max fantasy. Though personally I do tend to like the idea of being prepared enough to outlast an alien invasion. Need to merit this when I get some more.  

[gentlemand]

TL;DR Keep calm and wash hands.

Pah. I cannae wait to set sail across an ocean of pus and sputum. I will fish for regurgitated hospital food as I slurp my way to the high ground. I might need to boil it first.

[bkbirge]

TL;DR Keep calm and wash hands.

Pah. I cannae wait to set sail across an ocean of pus and sputum. I will fish for regurgitated hospital food as I slurp my way to the high ground. I might need to boil it first.

That's wasted effort, it already comes from boils, you'll be fine.