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November 25, 2017, 10:16:36 PM
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Hi, what kind of RAM use ONDA D1800 BTC motherboard, DDR3 or DDR3L?

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November 25, 2017, 10:35:17 PM
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Hi, what kind of RAM use ONDA D1800 BTC motherboard, DDR3 or DDR3L?

Cheers W_M

I found searching for DDR3L was difficult since most sites dont state it, the L at the end just means LOW Voltage memory, which is what the D1800 requires according to the manufactures site

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November 25, 2017, 10:43:10 PM
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@phil;

I got a reply from my buddy about cabling for the power supplies;  he can offer a 6 pin to 2x8 pin cable with them instead of 6 pin to 6 pin....   Or would just a six pin to a single 8 pin be best?

each breakout board has 8 jacks

so 24 jacks is enough.

if they all are hooked up

it is about 92 watts a cable which is good.

Sweet, I gave him the heads up.  I'm sure being compatible with all GPU's, these would go hand-in-hand with pico PSU arrangements and rigs with high device density.

I plan to use his power supplies [as needed] to fill out my B250 D8P I got from you.  I already have a pico PSU that appears to be able to work on the board as it was able to handle my I7-920 on a X58 motherboard running with its 3.2Ghz overclock..  (waiting to get a cpu and ram to test the onda with it next but im sure it wont draw too much either).

Hi, what kind of RAM use ONDA D1800 BTC motherboard, DDR3 or DDR3L?

Cheers W_M

I found searching for DDR3L was difficult since most sites dont state it, the L at the end just means LOW Voltage memory, which is what the D1800 requires according to the manufactures site


yeah, L is low voltage;  most likely specced for processors like M's and atoms.

*edit* the key is its either 1.5, or 1.5/1.35v memory.

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November 25, 2017, 10:46:33 PM
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Hi, what kind of RAM use ONDA D1800 BTC motherboard, DDR3 or DDR3L?

Cheers W_M

I found searching for DDR3L was difficult since most sites dont state it, the L at the end just means LOW Voltage memory, which is what the D1800 requires according to the manufactures site


this works

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-4GB-PC3L-12800-DDR3L-1600MHz-204Pin-DDR3-Unbuffered-SODIMM-Laptop-Memory/282716263825?

I have one if you want it are you in the usa?

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November 26, 2017, 02:18:28 AM
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phil - got the board, loaded win10 , all is well.

Thanks!
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November 26, 2017, 02:34:31 AM
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phil - got the board, loaded win10 , all is well.

Thanks!

Yeah they are  a  pretty darn good board.

And with Windows you will like the better cpu.

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November 26, 2017, 03:12:29 AM
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Hey everyone... happy Black Friday!

Was wondering if someone could provide some insight that is currently (or recently) mining ETH with RX 400 series GPUs.  I had my 4 6x 470 rigs mostly on cryptonote for the last few months but am now looking to switch back to ETH+DCR.  However, I am still on the 16.10 drivers and know that with those I will only get about 75% of max capacity, so need to update my drivers and possibly other apps.

As far as drivers go, I know AMD published Blockchain drivers that apparently fixed the reduced hashrates but caused other issues with power management etc.  I think these are here:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx

but this says beta version not to be updated. so, is the best driver to use for 470s currently? or is there a better one out there?

Also, I believe that I am at least 1 version behind on Afterburner. I've read that the newer drivers also require newer AB, so if someone could also elaborate on that it would be appreciated.

Finally, is there anything else that I need to be aware of when updating to a more current driver?  For instance, will watt-tool still work? I use that for my master under-volting settings and manage over-clocking in AB.  Can this still be achieved with the newer drivers?


 The "hashrate reduction" is overstated, though real - more like 10-12% in the testing on real mining I've done in the last week for the RX470 (still almost NO change to my R9 290s though) not 25%.
 It would appear that the "future DAG testing" method has some serious flaw to it that badly overstated the issue.

 The 17.30 blockchain drivers for Windows ONLY work with 10, I've tried to get them to work with 7 on 3 separate occasions now and they just flat out don't work at all even though AMD claims they support 7.
 They are buggy as heck as well even under 10.
 I think I remember seeing somewhere that the latest "standard" drivers also incorporate the "blockchain" fixes, but some mining software looks specifically for the blockchain version (XMR-Stak and Cast for XMR definitely do).

 The LINUX 17.40 blockchain drivers STILL doesn't work with Vega, haven't messed with it for my 470 cards as those are not mining ETH.
 To be fair, it seems that NO Linux driver is working correctly to date with the RX Vega - as usual, AMD cares very  about getting their LINUX drivers working, and that got a TON worse when they decided to go to the "AMD-GPU PRO" garbage.

 Afterburner 4.4 is the most recent version, and DOES work with the blockchain drivers and recent non-blockchain driver versions.

 When you do a driver upgrade, always to a clean uninstall/clean install - and you WILL have to "fix" your settings if you use that wattman junk (iffy in Afterburner, if it's not running when you fix the drivers it MIGHT save your setttings, or it might not).



GabryRox... just use DDU, install latest AMD display drivers for Win 10 and then change in Global settings at GPU Workload from Graphics to Compute for each card to fix the dag issue.

Thanks to both for your suggestions and tips!  I spent about 2 hours today trying to get 1 rig with updated drivers but to no avail.

First attempt:
- Ran DDU as Admin to clean out currently installed (16.10.2) drivers
- Did clean install of current version Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.10.2
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-17.10.2-Release-Notes.aspx

- after install and reboot, driver did NOT take. Got the dreaded super big font that appears with no drivers installed. Confirmed in watt-tool that all gpu timings were 0's (also classic sign on no or bad driver install). Finally looked in Dev Mgr and had the ! warning on all 6 GPUs. even tried "update driver" option from there but it returned the "current driver already installed" message

rebooted again but same result.

2nd attempt:
- Ran DDU as Admin to clean out 17.10.2
- Did clean install of blockchain drivers 17.30.1029
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx

- after reboot, exact same issue as above, not working at all

Finally i DDU'd this as well and went back to 16.10.2 and it works fine... well, with the 25% hashrate hit on ETH of course.

Note sure why neither of these won't work since this rig is on W10 64-bit and most of the issues I've heard have been on W7 or Linux.

Does anyone have any ideas what could be missing here?

edit: looks like a newer 17.11.1 was released on 11/12 so maybe i can try that tomorrow. but Im still not optimistic given the other 2 didn't work above, including the blockchain version that so many had been using for so long.



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November 26, 2017, 03:30:57 AM
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Hey everyone... happy Black Friday!

Was wondering if someone could provide some insight that is currently (or recently) mining ETH with RX 400 series GPUs.  I had my 4 6x 470 rigs mostly on cryptonote for the last few months but am now looking to switch back to ETH+DCR.  However, I am still on the 16.10 drivers and know that with those I will only get about 75% of max capacity, so need to update my drivers and possibly other apps.

As far as drivers go, I know AMD published Blockchain drivers that apparently fixed the reduced hashrates but caused other issues with power management etc.  I think these are here:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx

but this says beta version not to be updated. so, is the best driver to use for 470s currently? or is there a better one out there?

Also, I believe that I am at least 1 version behind on Afterburner. I've read that the newer drivers also require newer AB, so if someone could also elaborate on that it would be appreciated.

Finally, is there anything else that I need to be aware of when updating to a more current driver?  For instance, will watt-tool still work? I use that for my master under-volting settings and manage over-clocking in AB.  Can this still be achieved with the newer drivers?


 The "hashrate reduction" is overstated, though real - more like 10-12% in the testing on real mining I've done in the last week for the RX470 (still almost NO change to my R9 290s though) not 25%.
 It would appear that the "future DAG testing" method has some serious flaw to it that badly overstated the issue.

 The 17.30 blockchain drivers for Windows ONLY work with 10, I've tried to get them to work with 7 on 3 separate occasions now and they just flat out don't work at all even though AMD claims they support 7.
 They are buggy as heck as well even under 10.
 I think I remember seeing somewhere that the latest "standard" drivers also incorporate the "blockchain" fixes, but some mining software looks specifically for the blockchain version (XMR-Stak and Cast for XMR definitely do).

 The LINUX 17.40 blockchain drivers STILL doesn't work with Vega, haven't messed with it for my 470 cards as those are not mining ETH.
 To be fair, it seems that NO Linux driver is working correctly to date with the RX Vega - as usual, AMD cares very  about getting their LINUX drivers working, and that got a TON worse when they decided to go to the "AMD-GPU PRO" garbage.

 Afterburner 4.4 is the most recent version, and DOES work with the blockchain drivers and recent non-blockchain driver versions.

 When you do a driver upgrade, always to a clean uninstall/clean install - and you WILL have to "fix" your settings if you use that wattman junk (iffy in Afterburner, if it's not running when you fix the drivers it MIGHT save your setttings, or it might not).



GabryRox... just use DDU, install latest AMD display drivers for Win 10 and then change in Global settings at GPU Workload from Graphics to Compute for each card to fix the dag issue.

Thanks to both for your suggestions and tips!  I spent about 2 hours today trying to get 1 rig with updated drivers but to no avail.

First attempt:
- Ran DDU as Admin to clean out currently installed (16.10.2) drivers
- Did clean install of current version Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.10.2
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-17.10.2-Release-Notes.aspx

- after install and reboot, driver did NOT take. Got the dreaded super big font that appears with no drivers installed. Confirmed in watt-tool that all gpu timings were 0's (also classic sign on no or bad driver install). Finally looked in Dev Mgr and had the ! warning on all 6 GPUs. even tried "update driver" option from there but it returned the "current driver already installed" message

rebooted again but same result.

2nd attempt:
- Ran DDU as Admin to clean out 17.10.2
- Did clean install of blockchain drivers 17.30.1029
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx

- after reboot, exact same issue as above, not working at all

Finally i DDU'd this as well and went back to 16.10.2 and it works fine... well, with the 25% hashrate hit on ETH of course.

Note sure why neither of these won't work since this rig is on W10 64-bit and most of the issues I've heard have been on W7 or Linux.

Does anyone have any ideas what could be missing here?

edit: looks like a newer 17.11.1 was released on 11/12 so maybe i can try that tomorrow. but Im still not optimistic given the other 2 didn't work above, including the blockchain version that so many had been using for so long.





Remind me tomorrow in the event I forget and I can give you the steps I take. I know that the drivers from August are the best ones out there.

Will post tomorrow what drivers I use and the steps I take to get them installed etc.
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November 26, 2017, 05:20:57 AM
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That is the case i have my new 1950x setup in... its really nice with the magnetic filters, but boy is it large and heavy...
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Stackable-Certified-Computer-CA-1D8-00F1WN-00/dp/B00TQI9BY8

Can you really fit 13 cards inside?
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November 26, 2017, 08:35:35 AM
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Thanks a lot for the info philipma1957 but I live in Europe.

Cheers

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November 26, 2017, 10:34:37 AM
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Hey everyone... happy Black Friday!

Was wondering if someone could provide some insight that is currently (or recently) mining ETH with RX 400 series GPUs.  I had my 4 6x 470 rigs mostly on cryptonote for the last few months but am now looking to switch back to ETH+DCR.  However, I am still on the 16.10 drivers and know that with those I will only get about 75% of max capacity, so need to update my drivers and possibly other apps.


 The "hashrate reduction" is overstated, though real - more like 10-12% in the testing on real mining I've done in the last week for the RX470 (still almost NO change to my R9 290s though) not 25%.
 It would appear that the "future DAG testing" method has some serious flaw to it that badly overstated the issue.


GabryRox... just use DDU, install latest AMD display drivers for Win 10 and then change in Global settings at GPU Workload from Graphics to Compute for each card to fix the dag issue.

Thanks to both for your suggestions and tips!  I spent about 2 hours today trying to get 1 rig with updated drivers but to no avail.
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edit: looks like a newer 17.11.1 was released on 11/12 so maybe i can try that tomorrow. but Im still not optimistic given the other 2 didn't work above, including the blockchain version that so many had been using for so long.





Run DDU in safe mode... then install AMD display drivers 17.11.2. It's working better than the blockchain drivers at least for me. Also you can fit 12 amd gpu's on Win 10.  
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November 26, 2017, 12:37:54 PM
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That is the case i have my new 1950x setup in... its really nice with the magnetic filters, but boy is it large and heavy...
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Stackable-Certified-Computer-CA-1D8-00F1WN-00/dp/B00TQI9BY8

Can you really fit 13 cards inside?

Be very curious how they cram 13 cards into it.  I have 5 1080Ti's in mine and it is pretty tight, then then I'm water cooled with dual pumps/res.

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November 26, 2017, 12:52:14 PM
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Thanks a lot for the info philipma1957 but I live in Europe.

Cheers


yeah  I thought you might.  was not sure.


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coinbase got up to 9197!

and BCH/BCC is around 1600!

truly amazing.

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November 26, 2017, 05:26:34 PM
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Can anyone verify if 12x Nvidia gpu is working with windows 10?

I saw this post for AMD: http://www.aurelp.com/2017/11/01/solved-how-to-add-more-than-8-gpus-in-windows-10-step-by-stepfix/

But can't find a nvidia version.

Because it'll help decide if I go for the 12gpu or 8 gpu 4U case with onda mobo.

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November 26, 2017, 06:16:23 PM
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@ GabryRox

As someone mentioned above ..

Make sure you have the most recent version of DDU
Uninstall drivers in SAFE mode
Back to windows and I am using  these drivers : https://i.imgur.com/hOtWBRl.png
After you install drivers and before you do the first restart after drivers are installed, I run the PIXELPATCHER program.

I've tried some newer drivers and haven't had as much luck as this version,



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November 26, 2017, 07:03:12 PM
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Can anyone verify if 12x Nvidia gpu is working with windows 10?

I saw this post for AMD: http://www.aurelp.com/2017/11/01/solved-how-to-add-more-than-8-gpus-in-windows-10-step-by-stepfix/

But can't find a nvidia version.

Because it'll help decide if I go for the 12gpu or 8 gpu 4U case with onda mobo.

I think that SMOS' nVidia system works with 12 gpu's.

I'm trying to get the 12 GPU case. Even if can't run 12 GPus , i think the 12 gpu casr i'm looking at, which has 7 fans, will be better at cooling for 8 gpus than the 8 gpu case which has only  4 fans.
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November 26, 2017, 07:18:17 PM
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That is the case i have my new 1950x setup in... its really nice with the magnetic filters, but boy is it large and heavy...
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Stackable-Certified-Computer-CA-1D8-00F1WN-00/dp/B00TQI9BY8

Can you really fit 13 cards inside?

I have no clue how you would fit 13, i have 4 installed on my 1950x x399 board with watercooling and its a little tight with all the wires and tubes... im using PEX as my tubing for testing purposes.....

There is room on the bottom level, but not really a lot imo and its not a great high flow air case... to much open space with the amount of fans on the case, server cases push more air compared to this case. My 4U, 4 x 1080ti rig on water runs cooler than the above thermaltake case due to the sheer amount of forced airflow in a tight space. The thermaltake seems to have hot spots in the case even with 3 radiators and fans supporting it.

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That is the case i have my new 1950x setup in... its really nice with the magnetic filters, but boy is it large and heavy...
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Stackable-Certified-Computer-CA-1D8-00F1WN-00/dp/B00TQI9BY8

Can you really fit 13 cards inside?

I have no clue how you would fit 13, i have 4 installed on my 1950x x399 board with watercooling and its a little tight with all the wires and tubes... im using PEX as my tubing for testing purposes.....

There is room on the bottom level, but not really a lot imo and its not a great high flow air case... to much open space with the amount of fans on the case, server cases push more air compared to this case. My 4U, 4 x 1080ti rig on water runs cooler than the above thermaltake case due to the sheer amount of forced airflow in a tight space. The thermaltake seems to have hot spots in the case even with 3 radiators and fans supporting it.

he said he has 2x 300mm fans inside of it  that means a lot of mods

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November 26, 2017, 08:45:45 PM
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Has anyone seen this?

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fonda.cn%2F

I'm interested in buying an Onda B250 BTC-D8P (ideally from philipma1957) but should I wait for this Ver: 2.0?

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on a completely different note  9,000 usd  has been passed damn!

coinbase got up to 9197!

and BCH/BCC is around 1600!

truly amazing.

Its got be all these hedge funds buying in, to make it go so high so fast.
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