Baikal Giant X10

[GunsN]

anyone knows if there will come 2 new algos?
or only a marketig gag from baikal?
almost 3 month over when myr-gr and skein was announced...

we have to wait.
there is nothing on baikals twiter page

[Overlast]

Asked Baikal when/if the new algo's will come or if it is a marketing trick.

Even got 2 emails back:

"Hi
The new algorithm is still in debugging stage."

and

"Hi,

Our engineers are adjusting the new algorithm. Please be patient

best regards
baikal "


So, the waiting continues......

[Shorty2520]

Any price updates for the Giant X10 or model B?

7000$ is ridiculous, I hope nobody buys at this price.. but probably some will 🤦‍♂️.

[Baikalek]

Any price updates for the Giant X10 or model B?

7000$ is ridiculous, I hope nobody buys at this price.. but probably some will 🤦‍♂️.

Yes, they were both cheaper. Today I received an answer:
Hi,

Thank you for your contacting.

Two types of sale.

1). Price at 6500usd/pc  -- Giant-B

     Delivery at End of Feb.

2). Price at 6500usd/pc --- Giant X10   

    Delivery at End of Feb。

Sale terms:

Payment : USD dollar only

Minimum order quantity: 6 units  (MOQ for each type)

Shipping will be DHL/UPS. Waybill could be provided once we sent the miner from email.

Would you help yourself check above info first:)

BesT Regards.

Baikal miner.

[DVD_GR]

baikal has not CE certification , the marking on the board is for China Export and not CE regulation

[Shorty2520]

Any price updates for the Giant X10 or model B?

7000$ is ridiculous, I hope nobody buys at this price.. but probably some will 🤦‍♂️.

Yes, they were both cheaper. Today I received an answer:
Hi,

Thank you for your contacting.

Two types of sale.

1). Price at 6500usd/pc  -- Giant-B

     Delivery at End of Feb.

2). Price at 6500usd/pc --- Giant X10  

    Delivery at End of Feb。

Sale terms:

Payment : USD dollar only

Minimum order quantity: 6 units  (MOQ for each type)

Shipping will be DHL/UPS. Waybill could be provided once we sent the miner from email.

Would you help yourself check above info first:)

BesT Regards.

Baikal miner.

If they would take 50% off that price, it would be maybe interesting.


I would say double from presale would be good.

[tomwrx]

Any price updates for the Giant X10 or model B?

7000$ is ridiculous, I hope nobody buys at this price.. but probably some will 🤦‍♂️.

Yes, they were both cheaper. Today I received an answer:
Hi,

Thank you for your contacting.

Two types of sale.

1). Price at 6500usd/pc  -- Giant-B

     Delivery at End of Feb.

2). Price at 6500usd/pc --- Giant X10  

    Delivery at End of Feb。

Sale terms:

Payment : USD dollar only

Minimum order quantity: 6 units  (MOQ for each type)

Shipping will be DHL/UPS. Waybill could be provided once we sent the miner from email.

Would you help yourself check above info first:)

BesT Regards.

Baikal miner.

If they would take 50% off that price, it would be maybe interesting.


I would say double from presale would be good.

agree, miner should no cost more than 2.5 k usd. Because you also have to add to this price - shipping, psu, taxes.

[DVD_GR]

when nist5 algo goes live , the device will cost 20k in ebay wait and see

[cryptonitro]

when nist5 algo goes live , the device will cost 20k in ebay wait and see

no because the profit will fall

[tomwrx]

when nist5 algo goes live , the device will cost 20k in ebay wait and see

no because the profit will fall

yup, everyone will jump on nist5 and profit will be like for other algo's today. Don't have any ilusion about that.

[ismurdegus]

Hi guys

Not sure where to post this maybe useful information.....

I did some test with my X10 and I find that the Giant-B and X10 are the same machine.

The only difference is of course the OS inside the SD card and the firmware inside the controller board (blue card with ST microcontroller)

So, what I did is install the Giant-B image on my X10 .... :-0

The miner start like normal. The interface show all correct and also the hash cards show the right frequency and right hash power.

At this point I try to connect my unit at a lby pool..... The pool accept the connection but the miner reject the data to decrypt.

Ask me some question if you want...


Ciao

[burnsauce]

when nist5 algo goes live , the device will cost 20k in ebay wait and see

no because the profit will fall

It will spike the cost on ebay because ebay buyers are stupid.  They will look at what the calculator is telling them today, and dream about the possibilities with stars in their eyes. They'll see that paypal credit ad (6 months no payments!) looking them right in the face and figure it's a sure thing. 

Of course it's going up to $20k on ebay.  No, not because it's worth it.  If people were paying what they were 'worth' now, no one would be shelling out $6500 for one.

[cryptonitro]

Hi guys

Not sure where to post this maybe useful information.....

I did some test with my X10 and I find that the Giant-B and X10 are the same machine.

The only difference is of course the OS inside the SD card and the firmware inside the controller board (blue card with ST microcontroller)

So, what I did is install the Giant-B image on my X10 .... :-0

The miner start like normal. The interface show all correct and also the hash cards show the right frequency and right hash power.

At this point I try to connect my unit at a lby pool..... The pool accept the connection but the miner reject the data to decrypt.

Ask me some question if you want...


Ciao

someone still try that , there is difference between miners i think , may be in memory data / pic or else , it cant be exctly the same , or your miner wont reject data

[burnsauce]

Hi guys

Not sure where to post this maybe useful information.....

I did some test with my X10 and I find that the Giant-B and X10 are the same machine.

The only difference is of course the OS inside the SD card and the firmware inside the controller board (blue card with ST microcontroller)

So, what I did is install the Giant-B image on my X10 .... :-0

The miner start like normal. The interface show all correct and also the hash cards show the right frequency and right hash power.

At this point I try to connect my unit at a lby pool..... The pool accept the connection but the miner reject the data to decrypt.

Ask me some question if you want...


Ciao

I don't think you've uncovered anything that anyone doesn't know.  While the controller board is the same (Orange Pi I believe?), from your report it also appears that the hash-boards themselves are different because the hash boards in your x10 do not have the capability to do lby... hence your rejections.

[ismurdegus]

Hi guys

Not sure where to post this maybe useful information.....

I did some test with my X10 and I find that the Giant-B and X10 are the same machine.

The only difference is of course the OS inside the SD card and the firmware inside the controller board (blue card with ST microcontroller)

So, what I did is install the Giant-B image on my X10 .... :-0

The miner start like normal. The interface show all correct and also the hash cards show the right frequency and right hash power.

At this point I try to connect my unit at a lby pool..... The pool accept the connection but the miner reject the data to decrypt.

Ask me some question if you want...


Ciao

I don't think you've uncovered anything that anyone doesn't know.  While the controller board is the same (Orange Pi I believe?), from your report it also appears that the hash-boards themselves are different because the hash boards in your x10 do not have the capability to do lby... hence your rejections.

There are 3 parts inside the Bikal miner

1) OrangePi
2) Control Board
3) Hashing boards

When I try to mine lbry, the miner was up and running. Temperature of chips went UP and was generating 40GH/s
The rejection was from the pool not from the miner.

I think I did a screenshot, let me find it

[ismurdegus]

Screen shot

https://i.imgur.com/5C9aZ16.png

[DVD_GR]

If the device's asics are fpga's and programmed differently at B it will just never work...

[ismurdegus]

If the device's asics are fpga's and programmed differently at B it will just never work...

On the control board there is a micro usb connector. I am sure is used to flash the controller onboard.

If we had the possibility to extract the firmware from a Giant B and flash it on an X10 board, I am sure will work

[mano237]

Is there a video available where I can see how to unbox the Pi for flashing firmware?

[burnsauce]

Hi guys

Not sure where to post this maybe useful information.....

I did some test with my X10 and I find that the Giant-B and X10 are the same machine.

The only difference is of course the OS inside the SD card and the firmware inside the controller board (blue card with ST microcontroller)

So, what I did is install the Giant-B image on my X10 .... :-0

The miner start like normal. The interface show all correct and also the hash cards show the right frequency and right hash power.

At this point I try to connect my unit at a lby pool..... The pool accept the connection but the miner reject the data to decrypt.

Ask me some question if you want...


Ciao

I don't think you've uncovered anything that anyone doesn't know.  While the controller board is the same (Orange Pi I believe?), from your report it also appears that the hash-boards themselves are different because the hash boards in your x10 do not have the capability to do lby... hence your rejections.

There are 3 parts inside the Bikal miner

1) OrangePi
2) Control Board
3) Hashing boards

When I try to mine lbry, the miner was up and running. Temperature of chips went UP and was generating 40GH/s
The rejection was from the pool not from the miner.

I think I did a screenshot, let me find it

I have no doubt that it's "mining". I have doubt that what is coming out is lbry hashes (my doubts are confirmed by your rejections).  The issue is likely that the software is saying 'give me algorithm 1' to the hash boards (thinking algorithm 1 is lbry), but your hashboards aren't b+ boards, so 'algorithm 1' on them is something different.  I'm not saying this is "proof", but I could certainly see how this situation would lead to what you are experiencing.