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January 30, 2018, 02:55:29 PM
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SVK Noko may be trying link machines so they'll work together cooperatively like a pool does - to solve the block.

I guess, but really the math of it is that 4 machines working independently have an equal chance to solve a block at 4 machines working in unison.  Having a common wallet alleviates the need to check more than one machine to see if any of them succeeded.  That's why I'm curious if he has some other reason.

Question ... does a pool assign different segments of the mathematical puzzle to each miner, so that no two miners will propose the same possible answer to the puzzle?
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January 30, 2018, 03:15:56 PM
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SVK Noko may be trying link machines so they'll work together cooperatively like a pool does - to solve the block.

I guess, but really the math of it is that 4 machines working independently have an equal chance to solve a block at 4 machines working in unison.  Having a common wallet alleviates the need to check more than one machine to see if any of them succeeded.  That's why I'm curious if he has some other reason.

Question ... does a pool assign different segments of the mathematical puzzle to each miner, so that no two miners will propose the same possible answer to the puzzle?
Yes, as long as the miner has more than .10 bbp in the wallet. 
What makes the block template unique is:  Block timestamp, Block transactions, CoinbaseTxToSelf

Up til 1.0.8.4, we relied on the Timestamp and the transactions.  However as we grew, and we have transactions that hardly change (IE not much in memory pool), we added the last feature (coinbase tx to self).

The other side of the equation is Pool only accepts distinct nonce solutions so that two miners cant solve the same fractional share.


Otoh, let me give you an example where a problem exists (situation b: )
100 miners running 1.0.8.7 with 0 in the wallet, all synchronized to NTP (network time).  They will have a propensity to create the same block template (because unix time would match on a lot) and with our Low transaction count (IE not many people buying coffee with BBP right this second), those miners would all be mining the same block- so some would get rejected in the pool - and would not be helping us solve the block.   So situation A above is much nicer....

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January 30, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
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im was w/notification and 1 refresh helped with watchdog expired Cheesy Cheesy

Rob: your tutorial for pool is horrible: nor can we be surprised who compiled pool and tutorial for pool=1 big chaoz= bordel ...every who tried it was totally messed up, i hope that you dont work like pilot, operator in nuclear power plant or doctor etc ... Roll Eyes  can you explain where is problem with superadmin account or others users-account which exists in DB but doesnt working connecting to pool? source telling that mail to you

i hope that your opensource is for free and no FEES/ MONEY


Judging from two comments here that you were not able to create your own Sanctuary, I would not expect you to understand the instructions to create a pool.

(You bashed the sanctuary guides Togo and I created as well).


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January 30, 2018, 03:19:54 PM
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Where does hps from getmininginfo

  "networkhashps": 177 414 389 357.1199

come from?

Total pool HPS from about page is

Pool Total HPS:   1 508 979.39

So how does pool find 10% of blocks when we are only 0.001% of total network HPS?
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January 30, 2018, 03:25:50 PM
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im was w/notification and 1 refresh helped with watchdog expired Cheesy Cheesy

Rob: your tutorial for pool is horrible: nor can we be surprised who compiled pool and tutorial for pool=1 big chaoz= bordel ...every who tried it was totally messed up, i hope that you dont work like pilot, operator in nuclear power plant or doctor etc ... Roll Eyes  can you explain where is problem with superadmin account or others users-account which exists in DB but doesnt working connecting to pool? source telling that mail to you

i hope that your opensource is for free and no FEES/ MONEY


Judging from two comments here that you were not able to create your own Sanctuary, I would not expect you to understand the instructions to create a pool.

(You bashed the sanctuary guides Togo and I created as well).


... cos exists other pools, right?  how much paid to nsummy for closed his pool?


SEO_Account nobody knows how it works:  Rob doesnt know too .. more chaozz on this coin ...  more chaozz with build other pool ....


ROB tell us... where is problem with your opensource when we adding new accounts and these users cant join to pool and superadmin account doesnt work too .... HAAA?  and where is your next pool? its your job list BBP to other exchanges ....

pay 50BTC and list us to BITREX , i believe that you got

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January 30, 2018, 04:14:55 PM
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If you guys checking the leaderboard now will see the shares showing strange ... 1 too high and all the rest too low. That mean the top has HPS too much and all the rest no chance to mining ?
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January 30, 2018, 04:30:01 PM
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If you guys checking the leaderboard now will see the shares showing strange ... 1 too high and all the rest too low. That mean the top has HPS too much and all the rest no chance to mining ?
Yep, pool seems to be down or at least have a major hickup right now. All my miners are "gone" from my leaderboard, but some of my hash power miraculously shows up in the overalls.
But then again the same thing happened yesterday and after that the pool had a nice run in finding lots of blocks, so we'll see... Smiley
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January 30, 2018, 04:36:59 PM
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If you guys checking the leaderboard now will see the shares showing strange ... 1 too high and all the rest too low. That mean the top has HPS too much and all the rest no chance to mining ?
Yep, pool seems to be down or at least have a major hickup right now. All my miners are "gone" from my leaderboard, but some of my hash power miraculously shows up in the overalls.
But then again the same thing happened yesterday and after that the pool had a nice run in finding lots of blocks, so we'll see... Smiley

Well it cant be down because its processing 125 queries per second right now, and it received a block solved 2 mins ago.

The question is it being ddossed or not.

There is nothing strange in the log.


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January 30, 2018, 04:39:28 PM
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If you guys checking the leaderboard now will see the shares showing strange ... 1 too high and all the rest too low. That mean the top has HPS too much and all the rest no chance to mining ?
Yep, pool seems to be down or at least have a major hickup right now. All my miners are "gone" from my leaderboard, but some of my hash power miraculously shows up in the overalls.
But then again the same thing happened yesterday and after that the pool had a nice run in finding lots of blocks, so we'll see... Smiley
yop, same here, pool seems to have severe cramps, hopefully it will work again soon
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January 30, 2018, 05:18:14 PM
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The error when miner goes missing is

poolinfo3: error failed connection to pool.biblepay.org:443
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January 30, 2018, 05:35:03 PM
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If you guys checking the leaderboard now will see the shares showing strange ... 1 too high and all the rest too low. That mean the top has HPS too much and all the rest no chance to mining ?
Yep, pool seems to be down or at least have a major hickup right now. All my miners are "gone" from my leaderboard, but some of my hash power miraculously shows up in the overalls.
But then again the same thing happened yesterday and after that the pool had a nice run in finding lots of blocks, so we'll see... Smiley

Well it cant be down because its processing 125 queries per second right now, and it received a block solved 2 mins ago.

The question is it being ddossed or not.

There is nothing strange in the log.



It went quiet around 1pm GMT here in UK but it now seems to be okay. I'm certainly seeing what, for me at least, is normal performance.
Thanks for the time and effort that you invest into this 'vision'.
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January 30, 2018, 05:43:52 PM
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pool is dead again, same like 2 days ago...
it is not coincidence...

I wonder if it's coincidence that a large proportion of the MN's have just just gone to WatchDog Expired states ??
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ENABLED 36
NEW_START_REQUIRED 3
WATCHDOG_EXPIRED 83
PRE_ENABLED 0
UPDATE_REQUIRED 0
EXPIRED 0
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Those might be running 1.0.8.2.  If the node actually Stopped, their payments will stop.

Anyone who owns one of those 20 nodes, please come online and tell us what happened.

Either way you have to upgrade to 1.0.8.6 to stay up without a crash.

The problem was fixed in 1.0.8.6



It's strange, couse my node is on 1.0.8.6 , and today it's switched to WATHDOG_EXPIRED at 12:32 and back to ENABLED at 14:06 (CEST).
I nothing do with my setup. I only see this becouse I have notification set on https://biblepay.eu/



The same here, down for 2 hours at exactly the same time, but my node is on 1087.
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im was w/notification and 1 refresh helped with watchdog expired Cheesy Cheesy

Rob: your tutorial for pool is horrible: nor can we be surprised who compiled pool and tutorial for pool=1 big chaoz= bordel ...every who tried it was totally messed up, i hope that you dont work like pilot, operator in nuclear power plant or doctor etc ... Roll Eyes  can you explain where is problem with superadmin account or others users-account which exists in DB but doesnt working connecting to pool? source telling that mail to you

i hope that your opensource is for free and no FEES/ MONEY


Judging from two comments here that you were not able to create your own Sanctuary, I would not expect you to understand the instructions to create a pool.

(You bashed the sanctuary guides Togo and I created as well).


... cos exists other pools, right?  how much paid to nsummy for closed his pool?


SEO_Account nobody knows how it works:  Rob doesnt know too .. more chaozz on this coin ...  more chaozz with build other pool ....


ROB tell us... where is problem with your opensource when we adding new accounts and these users cant join to pool and superadmin account doesnt work too .... HAAA?  and where is your next pool? its your job list BBP to other exchanges ....

pay 50BTC and list us to BITREX , i believe that you got

Slovakia, we all understand your frustration, but you are implying bribery by asking "how much paid to nsummy for closed his pool?"

Please relax a bit, Rob is constantly working on every aspect of this project and has to prioritize what to focus on next. More importantly, you are violating basic Christian principles when you accuse someone of immoral action when you don't have any evidence.

As I've pointed out to you before, in the Bible that type behavior is called "evil surmising" or "evil suspicion" and is condemned.

"... they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions ..." - Apostle Paul, 1 Timothy 6:4

Thank you.


 

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January 30, 2018, 06:00:30 PM
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SVK Noko may be trying link machines so they'll work together cooperatively like a pool does - to solve the block.

I guess, but really the math of it is that 4 machines working independently have an equal chance to solve a block at 4 machines working in unison.  Having a common wallet alleviates the need to check more than one machine to see if any of them succeeded.  That's why I'm curious if he has some other reason.

Question ... does a pool assign different segments of the mathematical puzzle to each miner, so that no two miners will propose the same possible answer to the puzzle?
Yes, as long as the miner has more than .10 bbp in the wallet. 
What makes the block template unique is:  Block timestamp, Block transactions, CoinbaseTxToSelf

Up til 1.0.8.4, we relied on the Timestamp and the transactions.  However as we grew, and we have transactions that hardly change (IE not much in memory pool), we added the last feature (coinbase tx to self).

The other side of the equation is Pool only accepts distinct nonce solutions so that two miners cant solve the same fractional share.


Otoh, let me give you an example where a problem exists (situation b: )
100 miners running 1.0.8.7 with 0 in the wallet, all synchronized to NTP (network time).  They will have a propensity to create the same block template (because unix time would match on a lot) and with our Low transaction count (IE not many people buying coffee with BBP right this second), those miners would all be mining the same block- so some would get rejected in the pool - and would not be helping us solve the block.   So situation A above is much nicer....


Okay thank you, that explains a lot.

Question ... for a pool account with more than 1 miner, it would be better to either a) have more than .10 bbp in each miner wallet, or b) all miners share a wallet with at least (how much?) bbp in it?
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January 30, 2018, 06:53:18 PM
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SVK Noko may be trying link machines so they'll work together cooperatively like a pool does - to solve the block.

I guess, but really the math of it is that 4 machines working independently have an equal chance to solve a block at 4 machines working in unison.  Having a common wallet alleviates the need to check more than one machine to see if any of them succeeded.  That's why I'm curious if he has some other reason.

Question ... does a pool assign different segments of the mathematical puzzle to each miner, so that no two miners will propose the same possible answer to the puzzle?
Yes, as long as the miner has more than .10 bbp in the wallet. 
What makes the block template unique is:  Block timestamp, Block transactions, CoinbaseTxToSelf

Up til 1.0.8.4, we relied on the Timestamp and the transactions.  However as we grew, and we have transactions that hardly change (IE not much in memory pool), we added the last feature (coinbase tx to self).

The other side of the equation is Pool only accepts distinct nonce solutions so that two miners cant solve the same fractional share.


Otoh, let me give you an example where a problem exists (situation b: )
100 miners running 1.0.8.7 with 0 in the wallet, all synchronized to NTP (network time).  They will have a propensity to create the same block template (because unix time would match on a lot) and with our Low transaction count (IE not many people buying coffee with BBP right this second), those miners would all be mining the same block- so some would get rejected in the pool - and would not be helping us solve the block.   So situation A above is much nicer....


Okay thank you, that explains a lot.

Question ... for a pool account with more than 1 miner, it would be better to either a) have more than .10 bbp in each miner wallet, or b) all miners share a wallet with at least (how much?) bbp in it?


Well since we are still without POL the amount does not matter, the coinstake generator is just saying give me some coins with age > 24 hours that equal more than .10% of the wallet balance.  That particular utxo chosen creates a TXID that changes the merkleroot for that particular wallet.  So then that baseblockhash is unique systemwide.  The miner will then just change the timestamp and the nonce of that block.  You can see the baseblockhash in getmininginfo now.    However, in this system it would be slightly more helpful to have distinct wallet.dat files on each miner - but - this is sort of overkill - as I feel that if you have more than .10 bbp, you are already pretty much unique system wide.  It would come into play if you had 100 machines or more, I would put a different wallet.dat on each 25 or so machines, so to ensure that each miner segment has a distinct UTXO to pull in the coinstake.


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January 30, 2018, 06:54:58 PM
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Please monitor the pool now.  For more performance I enabled SQL batching. 


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January 30, 2018, 07:05:56 PM
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Wow, difficulty is rocketing higher now.  Take a look at the Diff history.  I see spikes hitting 6000 now.

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January 30, 2018, 07:12:01 PM
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Tom, I cant find the SouthXChange new coin Add page anywhere.  Have they gotten back to us?

Anyone know where we can find it?  Ill fill it out if we want to "jump on the camel" with .15 btc and be listed 24 hours later.


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January 30, 2018, 07:33:31 PM
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Tom, I cant find the SouthXChange new coin Add page anywhere.  Have they gotten back to us?

Anyone know where we can find it?  Ill fill it out if we want to "jump on the camel" with .15 btc and be listed 24 hours later.



I can't find the listing link either and have asked them twice. They replied once with the listing amt which is only 0.1 BTC instead of 0.15.

I got another reply this morning, they are apparently in the process of switching their support ticket system which is causing some confusion. The reply didn't mention the listing link, so I submitted another ticket via their new ticket platform.

I also just prayed for guidance and an open door if it's God's will. Getting another exchange is important to BiblePay, so everyone please make the same request to the Father.

Will let you know immediately when the camel arrives.
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January 30, 2018, 07:56:13 PM
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Lets all hope best future for the coin.
I am moving all my servers to home.
ROB technical question. If I were to connect 10 servers 8vm each at home on home connections would my home connection suffice?
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