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[Damnsammit]

they're not "rejects," that's h2o's secret program reaching in and snatching your coins . . . MUUUAAAAAHHHHAAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA.


Oh and . . . SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!

hahahahahahah

+1

what a strange movie that was...

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[webbson]

Today isn't going so well,
Current balance:  0.01050614
Unexchanged balance:  0.00651058
Immature balance:  0.00295424
with a 2.3 MH/s rig and very low rejects (<1%, the last client in the table below).

I don't know where people are getting a lot of unexchanged from because I ain't getting none!

Take this from the page, 6 clients with the same Accepted MH/s, two of which doesn't have any rejects at all (the last one in the table is mine).  
These two without rejects have about the same immature as the other but are lacking seriously (-0.025 btc ish) in unexchanged but on the other hand they have a balance of ~0.005 btc more..  
So in theory they're -0.02 btc behind others with the same rate as themselves, which is a lot with a rig that does about 0.03 btc per day normally.
I you look at the middlecoin page you can see the pattern repeat, why are some less favored than others? Why such a difference between servers?

Address	Accepted MH/s	Rejected MH/s	Immature	Unexchanged	Balance
1QHxYW2ngFPvsqZXxG8c72gRAtpF3bTzje	2.5911	0	0.00436710	0.00902949	0.01055366
1AtG5gvumRdHCEwAa24B13zQAECQPvSWCs	2.5911	0.1864	0.00390864	0.02906161	0.00489334
1QKFfMkMoMiUifk2NMBgTuL3EjMtFjFPwu	2.5911	0.2796	0.00289257	0.03044390	0.00526744
1CBdJeLB17mNcVpWA2SKJxECjdvqFt5uMA	2.5911	0.1118	0.00311096	0.02230496	0.00442423
1HQC8TmkC2VkZAc1SMqXkdRJWKZHh1ztzU	2.5911	0.1305	0.00393986	0.03039496	0.00660055
1JTgncSrWiQtEAdtYhtytCEqND8wVb3b5R	2.5911	0	0.00332127	0.00616017	0.01086730

Edit: I run on amsterdam with failover to eu, useast, uswest, asia.      

[sambiohazard]

@websson

thanks for the stats site. It is the only one that shows me balance in my currency.

[coins101]

Can't win them all...ugly payout today, hardly any unexchanged.

Yup, whereas renting you could make between 0.016 and 0.017 BTC/MH/day for the same time period (However, the day before, mining on this pool would have been more profitable)

Profitability of most coins has dropped off in the past 2-3 days, so it's more the market that's the issue, not how this pool is handling trading/mining.

I don't blame h2o for waiting to exchange a fair amount of what we mined :]

that's lies... blood is thicker than water... GETUS US TEH BETERER RETURNS ON MINNING h2O or we all go waffle...lotto is 40 bucks a day cheater!

You're clearly too emotive to play this game, you should quit.

well said.

in the end, you can vote your disapproval by pointing your workers somewhere else.

[justin2k5]

Today isn't going so well,
Current balance:  0.01050614
Unexchanged balance:  0.00651058
Immature balance:  0.00295424
with a 2.3 MH/s rig and very low rejects (<1%, the last client in the table below).

I don't know where people are getting a lot of unexchanged from because I ain't getting none!

Take this from the page, 6 clients with the same Accepted MH/s, two of which doesn't have any rejects at all (the last one in the table is mine).  
These two without rejects have about the same immature as the other but are lacking seriously (-0.025 btc ish) in unexchanged but on the other hand they have a balance of ~0.005 btc more..  
So in theory they're -0.02 btc behind others with the same rate as themselves, which is a lot with a rig that does about 0.03 btc per day normally.
I you look at the middlecoin page you can see the pattern repeat, why are some less favored than others? Why such a difference between servers?

Address	Accepted MH/s	Rejected MH/s	Immature	Unexchanged	Balance
1QHxYW2ngFPvsqZXxG8c72gRAtpF3bTzje	2.5911	0	0.00436710	0.00902949	0.01055366
1AtG5gvumRdHCEwAa24B13zQAECQPvSWCs	2.5911	0.1864	0.00390864	0.02906161	0.00489334
1QKFfMkMoMiUifk2NMBgTuL3EjMtFjFPwu	2.5911	0.2796	0.00289257	0.03044390	0.00526744
1CBdJeLB17mNcVpWA2SKJxECjdvqFt5uMA	2.5911	0.1118	0.00311096	0.02230496	0.00442423
1HQC8TmkC2VkZAc1SMqXkdRJWKZHh1ztzU	2.5911	0.1305	0.00393986	0.03039496	0.00660055
1JTgncSrWiQtEAdtYhtytCEqND8wVb3b5R	2.5911	0	0.00332127	0.00616017	0.01086730

Edit: I run on amsterdam with failover to eu, useast, uswest, asia.      

Im on useast.
for today with 2.9 MH iam at
balance: 0.0065 (freakin low)
unexchanged: 0.0344 (high, just like 2 days ago, good payout after they got exchanged)

Yesterday i had also a bad payout 0,022 (wth something like 0.02 unechanged)

For me the unexchanged is rising:

http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/1Kj7m2uoUJ73pE5JDxPxKEgNc1G6x7Swkr.html

[kalus]

I you look at the middlecoin page you can see the pattern repeat, why are some less favored than others? Why such a difference between servers?

because the hash rate fluctuates.  you, and everyone else moves up and down the list throughout the day.  some people have more hash rate than others, and you're just looking at a snapshot of an instant when you happen to be next to each other.

[webbson]

Im on useast.
for today with 2.9 MH iam at
balance: 0.0065 (freakin low)
unexchanged: 0.0344 (high, just like 2 days ago, good payout after they got exchanged)

Yesterday i had also a bad payout 0,022 (wth something like 0.02 unechanged)

For me the unexchanged is rising:

http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/1Kj7m2uoUJ73pE5JDxPxKEgNc1G6x7Swkr.html

Hmm, I'm switching my miner over to useast for a couple of hours to look for improvements.

@websson

thanks for the stats site. It is the only one that shows me balance in my currency.

Thanks I'm working on some changes that will be released in a couple of hours probably (3 hour average and some display fixes).
Later I will implement ability to choose where to get exchange rates from, email alert for worker speed a payout graph with btc/mhs line in it.

because the hash rate fluctuates.  you, and everyone else moves up and down the list throughout the day.  some people have more hash rate than others, and you're just looking at a snapshot of an instant when you happen to be next to each other.

Funny you say that, if I take the addresses and enter into my stats page I can see that the hashrate for all of them a pretty stable over time (7 days) and should in no way have anything to do with different balances, this is ALL server differences that should be taken care of asap.

[kalus]

Funny you say that, if I take the addresses and enter into my stats page I can see that the hashrate for all of them a pretty stable over time (7 days) and should in no way have anything to do with different balances, this is ALL server differences that should be taken care of asap.

to me, 'pretty' stable is not stable.  you have a ragged sawtooth, not a line.  you're seeing the peak of one user's sawtooth, and the valley of another.  

e.g. in your last 24 hours, i see a peak of up to 3.0mh, and a valley close to 2.1mh.  that is a max/min difference of 0.9mh.  everyone has this same flux in their hashrate as returned by the middlecoin servers.  

e.g. take a look at your bottom 'pretty' stable graph of accepted shares in the past HOUR alone:  at times you have over 150shares/min, and at other times you have 0shares/min.  again, a 'pretty' stable graph is not stable. 

[Gasai Yuno]

Today isn't going so well,
Current balance:  0.01050614
Unexchanged balance:  0.00651058
Immature balance:  0.00295424
with a 2.3 MH/s rig and very low rejects (<1%, the last client in the table below).

I don't know where people are getting a lot of unexchanged from because I ain't getting none!

Take this from the page, 6 clients with the same Accepted MH/s, two of which doesn't have any rejects at all (the last one in the table is mine).  
These two without rejects have about the same immature as the other but are lacking seriously (-0.025 btc ish) in unexchanged but on the other hand they have a balance of ~0.005 btc more..  
So in theory they're -0.02 btc behind others with the same rate as themselves, which is a lot with a rig that does about 0.03 btc per day normally.
I you look at the middlecoin page you can see the pattern repeat, why are some less favored than others? Why such a difference between servers?

Address	Accepted MH/s	Rejected MH/s	Immature	Unexchanged	Balance
1QHxYW2ngFPvsqZXxG8c72gRAtpF3bTzje	2.5911	0	0.00436710	0.00902949	0.01055366
1AtG5gvumRdHCEwAa24B13zQAECQPvSWCs	2.5911	0.1864	0.00390864	0.02906161	0.00489334
1QKFfMkMoMiUifk2NMBgTuL3EjMtFjFPwu	2.5911	0.2796	0.00289257	0.03044390	0.00526744
1CBdJeLB17mNcVpWA2SKJxECjdvqFt5uMA	2.5911	0.1118	0.00311096	0.02230496	0.00442423
1HQC8TmkC2VkZAc1SMqXkdRJWKZHh1ztzU	2.5911	0.1305	0.00393986	0.03039496	0.00660055
1JTgncSrWiQtEAdtYhtytCEqND8wVb3b5R	2.5911	0	0.00332127	0.00616017	0.01086730

Edit: I run on amsterdam with failover to eu, useast, uswest, asia.      

agree with you! amsterdam's rejected value is really good but payout is really bad.

i cant get why this is happening.

[zSprawl]

Bit of a heads up people, dont install the 14.1 mantle drivers... They completely break the miner software.

I have a R9 290 and have tested both cgminer and sgminer, both no worky.

Im sure one of the software boffins will work out whats going on soon enough.

Thanks! I was tempted...

[zSprawl]

It's been 12 hours since last payout... my balance is .005 for 3.5 Mhs.  Emote on that a while. 

What is your un-exchanged balance?

not enough...

LOL; You are either an asshole or a really good satirist

I always thought he was being sarcastic.

[sambiohazard]

Any updates on http://stratehm.net/ . It has been down for 3-4 days.

[Caze]

There's definetily something wonky going on today. Just yesterday I had something around 0.012BTC/MH and today it has dropped down to 0.0064BTC/MH (current rate). I'm also one of those who have almost no unexchanged. I know alt-coin values have dropped quite a bit but that doesn't explain the whole drop. So today seems to be a great (or at least pretty good) payday for some and some of us it is the lowest yet.

And no, I'm not saying h2o is stealing, all I'm saying that this huge server/user discrepancy should be one of his top priorities if not the top as it seems it just has gotten bigger with time.

[brightfist]

not enough...

LOL; You are either an asshole or a really good satirist

I always thought he was being sarcastic.

Poe's law is a beautiful thing.  It allows me to think everyone's just really clever and not actually crazy.

[LPCobris]

Any updates on http://stratehm.net/ . It has been down for 3-4 days.

I have the same question... That site is very good!

LPC

[hyperionx]

This might be getting anoying but i would also like to put my vote on fixing so that the mined coins are split even between servers.

I have been on amsterdamn these past 3 days and I have 10ms ping and have been averaging 0,4%rejects during that time. So far, its been fantastic! (im in sweden btw)
But then I look at the stats and see people with the same avg hashrates that have much much higher rejects and they still get loads more btc than me, some even twice as much.

I will not come with any arguments like it not being fair because thats not the biggest issue just yet, with this problem people will start to look for patterns of what pools are the best and they will start jumping to that server and before we know it all servers are empty except one which will be crashing because of all the excess traffic.
That has to be quite a valid reason for h2o to take a look at this asap imo.

I can even say I dont mind the disconnects once in a while because with failover to the other middlecoinservers it wont matter much with a couple of minutes here or there.

[brightfist]

This might be getting anoying but i would also like to put my vote on fixing so that the mined coins are split even between servers.

I have been on amsterdamn these past 3 days and I have 10ms ping and have been averaging 0,4%rejects during that time. So far, its been fantastic! (im in sweden btw)
But then I look at the stats and see people with the same avg hashrates that have much much higher rejects and they still get loads more btc than me, some even twice as much.

Thanks for beta testing the beta server.

I will not come with any arguments like it not being fair because thats not the biggest issue just yet, with this problem people will start to look for patterns of what pools are the best and they will start jumping to that server and before we know it all servers are empty except one which will be crashing because of all the excess traffic.
That has to be quite a valid reason for h2o to take a look at this asap imo.

I can even say I dont mind the disconnects once in a while because with failover to the other middlecoinservers it wont matter much with a couple of minutes here or there.

I'd agree, he should work to get the beta servers up to production level.  Until he does that I'd personally consider using anything but the non-beta server a risk.  Would you not?  It could be that he didn't properly set expectations of what being a beta server actually means.

[zSprawl]

I'd agree, he should work to get the beta servers up to production level.  Until he does that I'd personally consider using anything but the non-beta server a risk.  Would you not?  It could be that he didn't properly set expectations of what being a beta server actually means.

Playing MMOs has taught me that beta is the finished product.

[jomama22]

This might be getting anoying but i would also like to put my vote on fixing so that the mined coins are split even between servers.

I have been on amsterdamn these past 3 days and I have 10ms ping and have been averaging 0,4%rejects during that time. So far, its been fantastic! (im in sweden btw)
But then I look at the stats and see people with the same avg hashrates that have much much higher rejects and they still get loads more btc than me, some even twice as much.

I will not come with any arguments like it not being fair because thats not the biggest issue just yet, with this problem people will start to look for patterns of what pools are the best and they will start jumping to that server and before we know it all servers are empty except one which will be crashing because of all the excess traffic.
That has to be quite a valid reason for h2o to take a look at this asap imo.

I can even say I dont mind the disconnects once in a while because with failover to the other middlecoinservers it wont matter much with a couple of minutes here or there.

you really have to look at a persons total history to get an idea of where you should be. Iv been running amsterdam and dont see any marginal difference between mine and others with near the same consistent hash rate. You will see some people with the same hash a butload more coins, but then you look at the past hash rate and realize they just took a rig down earlier in the day and happen to be at your level now.

apparently us east gives you better payouts, but i dont see that with my trials. You also have to realize that high reject rate DOES NOT equal lower shares at the same hash rate. WU is what is most important, not the number of rejects that come with going for higher hashes. Your just throwing what sticks in that case and sometimes, more stick compared to someone making sure every single one does.

[fyff]

Why are you still arguing about this? h20 has stated himself that it IS in FACT an issue and it does affect payout it doesn't matter if you're an exception