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December 20, 2014, 08:20:15 PM
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RoadStress and Skye obviously need to have this explained like they are five:

"When the HashFast Goose is put into a Bankruptcy Stew, eggs can no longer be given to Little Johnny Customer and only Mr. & Mrs. Lawyer get to eat."

That's your defense, they wasted all their money so they shouldn't have been sued? LOL! They sold numerous batches of machines, but ran out of money after shipping part of 1 batch. Monumentally incompetent people running that business.

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Let's not call them incompetent, please, they are not.

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December 20, 2014, 11:50:34 PM
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iCEBREAKER can live in his broken reality but the fact that some US legal representative(s) do not see how the economics of Bitcoin works doesn't mean that what their ruling is right and just.

Fact is there hasn't been a single decision from any court yet dealing with the issues of Hashfast's promise of refunds, or the legality of Hashfast's shady business practices.

http://www.canb.uscourts.gov/judges/montali

This Judge is an expert on bankruptcy.  He doesn't need to understand smoothie's (conspicuously unspecified) "economics of how Bitcoin works" to make a "right and just" ruling on Chapter 11 vs Chapter 7.

Did Bitcoin invent some new kind of economics?  I'm 99.9% certain Judge Montali studied economics when he got his BA from Notre Dame, his JD from Berkeley, and then SPENT 30 FUCKING YEARS BEING AN EXPERT ON BUSINESS LAW.

smoothie uses deflection to minimize the overwhelming authority of Judge Montali, who is far from just "some US legal representative."  Rather than explain where the Court is wrong and elaborate his argument, the dishonest troll merely insinuates, like a coward.

Judge Montali has clearly forgotten more about economics than smoothie will ever understand.  And we all know if the Judge had found evidence of HF doing something wrong, smoothie would be crowing about it.  What a giant hypocrite!  

As for Morici, his spectacularly ill advised legal shenanigans are now backfiring in yet another fiasco, as the HashFast creditors' lawyers bicker and fight among themselves over the last scraps of cash:

https://processgeneral.s3.amazonaws.com/media/case_5/document/Docket%20247.pdf?Signature=ZXYYl1avIwFFXHExmDcv9S9NHBU%3D&Expires=1419024613&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAINPHWHY7KWKMORRQ

The above produced this glorious avalanche of juicy, entertaining drama:

https://processgeneral.s3.amazonaws.com/media/case_5/document/Docket%20252.pdf?Signature=sE7HxjSbyWzZNEmB6fLxWGMxF%2Bc%3D&Expires=1419024738&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAINPHWHY7KWKMORRQ

Isn't it great HF's last dollars are being used to fund bickering lawyers, instead of building ASICs or paying refunds?   Cheesy

Timmy and Pete are doing a heck of a job screwing us creditors with their legalistic Samson Option.

Overwhemling authority?

Sorry but that judge/person has no authority over my life. Do I care what he has to say? No I don't. There are so many injustices in the federal/US court system that boggles the mind. Not surprising the outcome of this all is HashFail and its retards get off scott free.

Perhaps in their little court of law that the government allows this guy to be GOD, perhaps they have some pull, but it doesn't affect me one bit. Let's put things into the proper context before making assertions like "overwhelming authority".

I have no reason to explain further as the situation is very simple. Now follow me very carefully... Roll Eyes

1. Hashfast made promises that they could not deliver (knowing they couldn't deliver on those promises at certain points in time, but decided to keep that to themselves and take more preorder monies in...much like BFL).

2. Hash fast never delivers on those promises of refunds in BTC or delivery of ASICs and MPP.

Spin it however you want iCEBREAKER but I am no coward in any way shape or form. It seems you have stooped to a new level of name calling to get attention off of the glaring fact that you are in support of the shady business practices of HashFast.


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RoadStress and Skye obviously need to have this explained like they are five:

"When the HashFast Goose is put into a Bankruptcy Stew, eggs can no longer be given to Little Johnny Customer and only Mr. & Mrs. Lawyer get to eat."

That's your defense, they wasted all their money so they shouldn't have been sued? LOL! They sold numerous batches of machines, but ran out of money after shipping part of 1 batch. Monumentally incompetent people running that business.

The humor/entertainment comes from the fact that iCEBREAKER is sticking to his support of such a failed and incompetent business. At least there is some good coming out of this thread (even though many are suffering from their own personal losses in investing in HashFail).

My condolences to all who lost money with HashFail.  Cry

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RoadStress and Skye obviously need to have this explained like they are five:

"When the HashFast Goose is put into a Bankruptcy Stew, eggs can no longer be given to Little Johnny Customer and only Mr. & Mrs. Lawyer get to eat."

That's your defense, they wasted all their money so they shouldn't have been sued? LOL! They sold numerous batches of machines, but ran out of money after shipping part of 1 batch. Monumentally incompetent people running that business.

The humor/entertainment comes from the fact that iCEBREAKER is sticking to his support of such a failed and incompetent business. At least there is some good coming out of this thread (even though many are suffering from their own personal losses in investing in HashFail).

...meanwhile advising us who lost money  that we can buy the equipment that we already paid for, all over again.
If that is not vindictive intimidation, then i don't know what is.

My condolences to all who lost money with HashFail.  Cry

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Sorry but that judge/person has no authority over my life. Do I care what he has to say? No I don't. There are so many injustices in the federal/US court system that boggles the mind. Not surprising the outcome of this all is HashFail and its retards get off scott free.

Perhaps in their little court of law that the government allows this guy to be GOD, perhaps they have some pull, but it doesn't affect me one bit. Let's put things into the proper context before making assertions like "overwhelming authority".

I have no reason to explain further as the situation is very simple. Now follow me very carefully... Roll Eyes

1. Hashfast made promises that they could not deliver (knowing they couldn't deliver on those promises at certain points in time, but decided to keep that to themselves and take more preorder monies in...much like BFL).

2. Hash fast never delivers on those promises of refunds in BTC or delivery of ASICs and MPP.

Spin it however you want iCEBREAKER but I am no coward in any way shape or form. It seems you have stooped to a new level of name calling to get attention off of the glaring fact that you are in support of the shady business practices of HashFast.

This thread is about HashFast.  My post was about a singular Judge's rulings in the particular case involving HashFast.

Nobody except you cares about, much less mentioned, his "authority over [your] life."  Why would a Bankruptcy Judge in SF have authority over some loser in Hawaii's life?  Where do you get this random shit from smoothie?  Too much choom?

You are a hypocrite and a coward for your choice to denigrate the judge (smearing him with your general objections to the entire justice system) simply because he did not confirm your prejudices and endorse your vendetta against HashFast.

We all know you would be heaping praise upon the judge if he had done your bidding and found fault with HF.  The only reason you choose to retreat into vague generalities about "injustices in the federal/US court system" is that you cannot provide any substantial explanation for why Montali is wrong in this specific instance.  That's coward shit, bro.  Don't do that.

This matter is cut and dried Chapter 7 vs Chapter 11 stuff.  Your unhinged whining about how 'Judges are GODS' is just you being a sore loser.  The man's CV, not just the office he holds, is the source of his authority (which BTW is subject to appeal).

What law school did you graduate from?  For how many decades have you been a published expert on business law?

Oh that's right, you just presume to tell others who know far better how terrible and wrong they are, without the courtesy of elaboration.

Fuck off smoothie, go play with your shiny objects.  And Merry Xmas!   Wink


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Sorry but that judge/person has no authority over my life. Do I care what he has to say? No I don't. There are so many injustices in the federal/US court system that boggles the mind. Not surprising the outcome of this all is HashFail and its retards get off scott free.

Perhaps in their little court of law that the government allows this guy to be GOD, perhaps they have some pull, but it doesn't affect me one bit. Let's put things into the proper context before making assertions like "overwhelming authority".

I have no reason to explain further as the situation is very simple. Now follow me very carefully... Roll Eyes

1. Hashfast made promises that they could not deliver (knowing they couldn't deliver on those promises at certain points in time, but decided to keep that to themselves and take more preorder monies in...much like BFL).

2. Hash fast never delivers on those promises of refunds in BTC or delivery of ASICs and MPP.

Spin it however you want iCEBREAKER but I am no coward in any way shape or form. It seems you have stooped to a new level of name calling to get attention off of the glaring fact that you are in support of the shady business practices of HashFast.

This thread is about HashFast.  My post was about a singular Judge's rulings in the particular case involving HashFast.

Nobody except you cares about, much less mentioned, his "authority over [your] life."  Why would a Bankruptcy Judge in SF have authority over some loser in Hawaii's life?  Where do you get this random shit from smoothie?  Too much choom?

You are a hypocrite and a coward for your choice to denigrate the judge (smearing him with your general objections to the entire justice system) simply because he did not confirm your prejudices and endorse your vendetta against HashFast.

We all know you would be heaping praise upon the judge if he had done your bidding and found fault with HF.  The only reason you choose to retreat into vague generalities about "injustices in the federal/US court system" is that you cannot provide any substantial explanation for why Montali is wrong in this specific instance.  That's coward shit, bro.  Don't do that.

This matter is cut and dried Chapter 7 vs Chapter 11 stuff.  Your unhinged whining about how 'Judges are GODS' is just you being a sore loser.  The man's CV, not just the office he holds, is the source of his authority (which BTW is subject to appeal).

What law school did you graduate from?  For how many decades have you been a published expert on business law?

Oh that's right, you just presume to tell others who know far better how terrible and wrong they are, without the courtesy of elaboration.

Fuck off smoothie, go play with your shiny objects.  And Merry Xmas!   Wink

Actually no I wouldn't be heaping praise upon the judge. But I would be happy that justice was served. There is a difference.

who is "we"? Is there more than one of you?

Looks like you only have insults to slur once again...."loser", "coward", etc...

It doesn't take a law degree to know right from wrong.

Hashfast took customer money, failed to deliver all of their products on time, failed to offer full BTC promised refunds, got taken to court, and got off scott free. <--------If you can't see what is wrong with that bolded statement there without a law degree, no one can help you.  Roll Eyes

Obviously you are thinking too much on this and can't see the simplicity of the situation for what it is. You obviously have a bias in the situation as you were associated with HashFast directly. The funny thing is I have 0 skin in the game and am a completely neutral party from the outside looking in and giving my take.

If you don't like it please cry more with your name calling and unjustified insults. It sure shows your maturity level here.  Roll Eyes

It isn't unhinged whining to call a judge a "god" in his courtroom. It is fact. Obviously you are presuming my perspective. Keep trying to put me in a bad light of being a whiney, sore-loser, coward, that needs to fuck-off. LOL It isn't working too well.




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Does anyone else here reading this thread agree with iCEBREAKER's perspective on HashFast??

I'd like to know how many people agree with iCEBREAKER's superb, undeniable, god-like understanding of all things of law and economics concerning HashFail.

Thanks in advance.

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December 21, 2014, 08:54:22 PM
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I personally far from think it was fair for what happened relating to hashfast, but I do understand what happened and yes it sucks but I mean at this point there is nothing that can be done. The company has no money to refund customers and has assets that are sitting depreciating everyday.

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Does anyone else here reading this thread agree with iCEBREAKER's perspective on HashFast??

I'd like to know how many people agree with iCEBREAKER's superb, undeniable, god-like understanding of all things of law and economics concerning HashFail.

Thanks in advance.


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December 21, 2014, 10:42:26 PM
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Does anyone else here reading this thread agree with iCEBREAKER's perspective on HashFast??

I'd like to know how many people agree with iCEBREAKER's superb, undeniable, god-like understanding of all things of law and economics concerning HashFail.

Thanks in advance.


I suppose nobody, including iCEBREAKER himself.

He is however very convinced that he can convince people to believe otherwise.


In other words, a dirty leftover from HashFail's - well - failure.

Time to adjust your New Year's resolutions iCEBREAKER.

Happy New Year! Wink

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Does anyone else here reading this thread agree with iCEBREAKER's perspective on HashFast??

I'd like to know how many people agree with iCEBREAKER's superb, undeniable, god-like understanding of all things of law and economics concerning HashFail.

Thanks in advance.

You are just feeding the troll by arguing with him. He is talking to us like we are not HF customers and like we don't know what exactly happened. The HF main point of sale was "Full BTC refunds if not delivered." I would never, ever buy HF miners without this explicitly emphasized, other manufacturers had deals in that time-frame with far less risk without this refund clause. HF jumped over them with refund offer and won the game for many customers. Now the troll is claiming their main selling point was not ever remotely possible, and we are to blame for believing it. Imagine that.

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No Court of Fallen Earthbound Mankind may absolve the Evil HashFast Sinners of their unpardonable heinous transgressions before The Lord, so sayeth High Priest smoothie!

That the insufferable cretin iCEBREAKER speaketh in their defense is merely more evidence of their irrefutable guilt!


Once again, this was a cut-and-dried Bankruptcy case, not the Ultimate Trial of Good Vs Evil.

Business fail all the time.  Bankruptcy is a common occurrence, not a crime.  Grow up son, and stop being such a Manichean drama queen.

When you SCREAM IN HUGE LETTERS asking for popular support, your immature butthurt is on full display.   Cheesy

It doesn't take a popularity contest to distinguish true from false.  Even if your request for an anti-iCEBREAKER pile-on is granted, I am still right about the facts of the matter and you are still wrong:

HF didn't get off scot-free.  Their investors lost time+money and execs suffered damaged reputations. 

Judge Montali is not a God in his courtroom.  His every utterance and action are reviewable by a plethora of higher courts, professional associations, etc.  You sound very ignorant, not to mention desperate, when you indulge in the tired old generic "I hate Judges" tantrum in response to one specific bankruptcy case.

You just can't get over the fact that no criminal acts were perpetrated, because you prematurely committed to the losing position and now have to deal with the shock/humiliation of being proven incorrect.  Hence your newfound desire to 1) minimize the legitimacy of the Judge/Court/process and 2) claim the moral high ground for a last stand in defense of your vendetta and prejudice.

Such behavior is cowardly and hypocritical, because we all know you would be singing his praises were the Judge to have found HF guilty of the crimes (Ponzi, scam, self-mining, etc.) you imagined them guilty of in your hasty and demonstrably invalid prejudgements.

Where was your "ZOMG JUDGES ARE NOT LEGITIMATE BECAUSE REASONS" critique at the beginning of the bankruptcy trial many months ago? 

Why are you only now mentioning your devastating insights into the irreparable faults of our legal system?

You denounce judges and courts at this very late date only because Montali ruled that everyone holding opinions like yours are, in fact, wrong.

You lost on the objective evidence-based facts of the matter, and predictably retreat into the warm fuzzy miasma of non-refutable moralizing.


That is the act of a coward; people who do that are chickenshits - especially the stone-casting sin-seeking witch-hunting inquisitors like you.


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 #11354

No Court of Fallen Earthbound Mankind may absolve the Evil HashFast Sinners of their unpardonable heinous transgressions before The Lord, so sayeth High Priest smoothie!

That the insufferable cretin iCEBREAKER speaketh in their defense is merely more evidence of their irrefutable guilt!


Once again, this was a cut-and-dried Bankruptcy case, not the Ultimate Trial of Good Vs Evil.

Business fail all the time.  Bankruptcy is a common occurrence, not a crime.  Grow up son, and stop being such a Manichean drama queen.

When you SCREAM IN HUGE LETTERS asking for popular support, your immature butthurt is on full display.   Cheesy

It doesn't take a popularity contest to distinguish true from false.  Even if your request for an anti-iCEBREAKER pile-on is granted, I am still right about the facts of the matter and you are still wrong:

HF didn't get off scot-free.  Their investors lost time+money and execs suffered damaged reputations. 

Judge Montali is not a God in his courtroom.  His every utterance and action are reviewable by a plethora of higher courts, professional associations, etc.  You sound very ignorant, not to mention desperate, when you indulge in the tired old generic "I hate Judges" tantrum in response to one specific bankruptcy case.

You just can't get over the fact that no criminal acts were perpetrated, because you prematurely committed to the losing position and now have to deal with the shock/humiliation of being proven incorrect.  Hence your newfound desire to 1) minimize the legitimacy of the Judge/Court/process and 2) claim the moral high ground for a last stand in defense of your vendetta and prejudice.

Such behavior is cowardly and hypocritical, because we all know you would be singing his praises were the Judge to have found HF guilty of the crimes (Ponzi, scam, self-mining, etc.) you imagined them guilty of in your hasty and demonstrably invalid prejudgements.

Where was your "ZOMG JUDGES ARE NOT LEGITIMATE BECAUSE REASONS" critique at the beginning of the bankruptcy trial many months ago? 

Why are you only now mentioning your devastating insights into the irreparable faults of our legal system?

You denounce judges and courts at this very late date only because Montali ruled that everyone holding opinions like yours are, in fact, wrong.

You lost on the objective evidence-based facts of the matter, and predictably retreat into the warm fuzzy miasma of non-refutable moralizing.


That is the act of a coward; people who do that are chickenshits - especially the stone-casting sin-seeking witch-hunting inquisitors like you.

You sound pretty butthurt to have to resort to editing my post to attempt to insult me. Once again it does nothing to me lol

Thank you for proving my point that you are living in a broken reality while supporting a business that has scammed their customers.

Mele Kalikimaka!

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December 22, 2014, 06:47:10 PM
 #11355

Does anyone else here reading this thread agree with iCEBREAKER's perspective on HashFast??

I'd like to know how many people agree with iCEBREAKER's superb, undeniable, god-like understanding of all things of law and economics concerning HashFail.

Thanks in advance.


I guess no one.  Grin

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I'd imagine that there's a reason ice's perspective-setting  "skillset" was brought into hire by Hashfast.

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December 22, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
 #11357

Once again, this was a cut-and-dried Bankruptcy case, not the Ultimate Trial of Good Vs Evil.

Business fail all the time.  Bankruptcy is a common occurrence, not a crime.  Grow up son, and stop being such a Manichean drama queen.


Thank you for proving my point that you are living in a broken reality while supporting a business that has scammed their customers.

Mele Kalikimaka!

Do you believe Judge Montali is also "living in a broken reality while supporting a business that has scammed their customers?"


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I'd imagine that there's a reason ice's perspective-setting  "skillset" was brought into hire by Hashfast.

because he's a cunt, like the rest of them?

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December 22, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
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I'd imagine that there's a reason ice's perspective-setting  "skillset" was brought into hire by Hashfast.

because he's a cunt, like the rest of them?

Does "the rest of them" does include Judge Montali?

Is Judge Montali part of the scam, which includes a massive conspiracy to set perspectives?

Are all HF customers victims of this nefariously manufactured consent?

You should write a book about this seedy plot.  It will, of course, be fiction...  Tongue


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December 22, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
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You just can't get over the fact that no criminal acts were perpetrated

I'll ask this again. Can you name a single customer that received everything they ordered, including MPP?

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