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December 09, 2014, 02:36:15 AM
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Lets just assume for a second that the board runs at 800gh and because we are pretending, lets say the difficulty is not going to get any higher. So after 100 days you would only generate 1.064 BTC. IF we assume that the water cooler is 60$ and the psu is 40$ That leaves at the current price 260$ that the board price can be.

I was figuring they'd need a solid 1000W PSU at 800, w/gh climbs with speed. Can find some useable 600W ones around $40 but then there's quite a jump.
You would definitely need a 1000W PSU at 800GH/s, though even getting boards that high would be extremely hit or miss. That's a minimum of 1050MHz on all 4 dies, which is no small feat.

Going the other way is actually better though. I have Habs running at 575MHz giving 432GH/s poolside and pulling 341W at the wall from a Silver rated 850W HEC branded PSU I got for $40. Yes the per speed board is lower, but it's a lot more competitive with current offerings.
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December 09, 2014, 02:42:22 AM
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Yeah, that's what I was figuring, get down to 0.75 gh/W ish, maybe cheap out the cooler to a Hyper 212 with push pull fans on.

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December 09, 2014, 02:50:37 AM
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Yeah, that's what I was figuring, get down to 0.75 gh/W ish, maybe cheap out the cooler to a Hyper 212 with push pull fans on.

i tried that at one point, it can work but definitely use something like arctic silver 5, and ditch the screw that come factory with the retention bracket they dont allow enough pressure on the dies( IMHO)

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December 09, 2014, 02:57:08 AM
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Going the other way is actually better though. I have Habs running at 575MHz giving 432GH/s poolside and pulling 341W at the wall from a Silver rated 850W HEC branded PSU I got for $40. Yes the per speed board is lower, but it's a lot more competitive with current offerings.

Let's compare that to a quality offering.

SP20: 1.7 TH/s for $695 (cooler included).

So the HF is worth 695 * 1700 / 432 = $176. Let's say you can find a cooler for $26. The HF board is worth less than $150.

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December 09, 2014, 03:10:59 AM
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Going the other way is actually better though. I have Habs running at 575MHz giving 432GH/s poolside and pulling 341W at the wall from a Silver rated 850W HEC branded PSU I got for $40. Yes the per speed board is lower, but it's a lot more competitive with current offerings.

Let's compare that to a quality offering.

SP20: 1.7 TH/s for $695 (cooler included).

So the HF is worth 695 * 1700 / 432 = $176. Let's say you can find a cooler for $26. The HF board is worth less than $150.
I'm not saying that they're worth a ridiculous amount of money, just that trying to run them at 800GH/s isn't the way to go if it's even possible for most boards. The numbers become much more competitive to other offerings if you turn them down considerably.
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December 09, 2014, 03:45:09 AM
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Going the other way is actually better though. I have Habs running at 575MHz giving 432GH/s poolside and pulling 341W at the wall from a Silver rated 850W HEC branded PSU I got for $40. Yes the per speed board is lower, but it's a lot more competitive with current offerings.

Let's compare that to a quality offering.

SP20: 1.7 TH/s for $695 (cooler included).

So the HF is worth 695 * 1700 / 432 = $176. Let's say you can find a cooler for $26. The HF board is worth less than $150.
I'm not saying that they're worth a ridiculous amount of money, just that trying to run them at 800GH/s isn't the way to go if it's even possible for most boards. The numbers become much more competitive to other offerings if you turn them down considerably.

And unlike most of the competition, if the price of BTC increases you can crank them up into turbo pursuit mode.


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December 09, 2014, 06:57:15 AM
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Has the IRS audited HashFast & co. yet?
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December 09, 2014, 07:49:26 AM
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Going the other way is actually better though. I have Habs running at 575MHz giving 432GH/s poolside and pulling 341W at the wall from a Silver rated 850W HEC branded PSU I got for $40. Yes the per speed board is lower, but it's a lot more competitive with current offerings.

Let's compare that to a quality offering.

SP20: 1.7 TH/s for $695 (cooler included).

So the HF is worth 695 * 1700 / 432 = $176. Let's say you can find a cooler for $26. The HF board is worth less than $150.
I'm not saying that they're worth a ridiculous amount of money, just that trying to run them at 800GH/s isn't the way to go if it's even possible for most boards. The numbers become much more competitive to other offerings if you turn them down considerably.

And unlike most of the competition, if the price of BTC increases you can crank them up into turbo pursuit mode.

you really are delusional. i suppose you would be keen to purchase all the BFL singles that Josh Zerlan has in his basement unsold.
because that's what it equates to... the hashfail shite is only slightly more efficient than those.

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December 09, 2014, 09:26:02 AM
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This is good news.  HashFast will be selling boards again soon:

So does that mean customers are first in line to receive the upgrade kits they paid for exactly 1 year ago?

And those who still need to receive hundreds of MPP boards can expect a tracking number soon?

Of course not... so stop spreading bullshit that gets peoples hope up

Who is getting paid with any income so far? Simon and a bunch of lawyers. I do not see any sign of a compensation (in USD, BTC or hardware) any time soon
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December 10, 2014, 08:06:02 AM
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This is good news.  HashFast will be selling boards again soon:


uhuh

friedcat just released BE300 chip specs https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888260.msg9794133#msg9794133

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December 10, 2014, 01:14:27 PM
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Has the IRS audited HashFast & co. yet?

Well this is just a wild stab in the dark here, but I don't think they'll be paying taxes.... that requires profit.

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December 10, 2014, 01:21:02 PM
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Not been following this very closely, but is icebreaker an investor in HF, in love with Barber, or what on earth is ahm.. floating his boat in this?
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December 10, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
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Well I've always assumed that he's about 15 and one of the principals is his "hero" Uncle or something.

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December 10, 2014, 11:56:24 PM
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Not been following this very closely, but is icebreaker an investor in HF, in love with Barber, or what on earth is ahm.. floating his boat in this?

Welcome to my fan club!   Cool

I'm a HF customer who doesn't have a problem accepting responsibility for making extremely risky ASIC purchases.

I understand that most new businesses fail and don't seek to personalize/criminalize such perfectly normal outcomes.

Such a mature attitude is unfortunately a rarity on this thread, so I educate the newbs about concepts like legal tender, windfalls, buyer's remorse, and opportunity cost.


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December 11, 2014, 12:24:53 AM
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Not been following this very closely, but is icebreaker an investor in HF, in love with Barber, or what on earth is ahm.. floating his boat in this?

Welcome to my fan club!   Cool

I'm a HF customer who doesn't have a problem accepting responsibility for making extremely risky ASIC purchases.

I understand that most new businesses fail and don't seek to personalize/criminalize such perfectly normal outcomes.

Such a mature attitude is unfortunately a rarity on this thread, so I educate the newbs about concepts like legal tender, windfalls, buyer's remorse, and opportunity cost.

You forgot the fact that you like to eat a lot of shit and the fact that in your shitty view a promised refund of 51 bitcoins for an order of 51 bitcoins is subject to windfall.

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December 11, 2014, 01:16:31 AM
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Such a mature attitude is unfortunately a rarity on this thread, so I educate the newbs about concepts like legal tender, windfalls, buyer's remorse, and opportunity cost.

You forgot the fact that you like to eat a lot of shit and the fact that in your shitty view a promised refund of 51 bitcoins for an order of 51 bitcoins is subject to windfall.

See, ^^^there's one of those immature attitudes I was talking about.   Roll Eyes

RS has to pointedly ignore the difference in USD value between mid 2013 BTC and post price-spike BTC, because otherwise his position is transparently untenable.

RS would never ask an actual lawyer to confirm his silly opinion, because his delicate ego would be grievously wounded when the lawyer inevitably informed him that he's FOS.   Grin


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December 11, 2014, 01:23:46 AM
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RS has to pointedly ignore the difference in USD value between mid 2013 BTC and post price-spike BTC, because otherwise his position is transparently untenable.

Of course he ignored it. He was told it didn't matter. Only after the sale was made did HF retroactively change the terms of the sale. We call that fraud.

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December 11, 2014, 01:43:59 AM
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RS has to pointedly ignore the difference in USD value between mid 2013 BTC and post price-spike BTC, because otherwise his position is transparently untenable.

Of course he ignored it. He was told it didn't matter. Only after the sale was made did HF retroactively change the terms of the sale. We call that fraud.

HF never told anyone they could do something impossible like ignore BTC price fluctuations 'no matter what.'

Even if they did, only an unreasonable greedy idiot would expect a small start-up to perform financial miracles.

A customer's failure to understand the TOS and perform adequate due diligence does not constitute "fraud" on HF's part.

The HF trial is over, and no evidence of fraud was produced.  The judge even specifically asked the US ATTY for it, but she could not provide anything substantial.

You haters had your day (months, actually) in court and came up with nothing. 

How bitter you all must be, having seen your cherished beliefs in criminal conspiracies laid to rest despite all your bluster and defamation!   

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December 11, 2014, 01:51:24 AM
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I can't believe they're actually going to get away with this scam, what a load of crap.
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December 11, 2014, 02:37:55 AM
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I can't believe they're actually going to get away with this scam, what a load of crap.

Your premise, that HF was a scam, is supported by only mere assertions but not any actual evidence.

Most new businesses fail and bankruptcy (plus angry customers) was not the desired outcome.

The petulant defamation is uncalled for, but keep hyperventilating if it helps you vent your immature spleen.

HF tried very hard to make a go of it and came very close to succeeding.  Too bad the legal eagles kept Mr. Ochoa from acting before this late date.

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