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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 875472 times)
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September 22, 2014, 03:54:13 PM
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I'm not suggesting anyone to preorder anything (apart from HF boards maybe), it's just that it's interesting to see what "the competition" is up to. (HF is supposed to have a 16nm ip, at least partially completed).

I am lost. Where can I find the information about HF's 16nm chip? How can HF keeps taking pre-orders while it still owes us money?

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September 22, 2014, 04:18:20 PM
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I am lost. Where can I find the information about HF's 16nm chip? How can HF keeps taking pre-orders while it still owes us money?
It's what is defined as the next gen design in the court records. HF is not taking any preorder for that as far as I'm aware.

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September 22, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
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late 2015 will probably be closing in on 0.1 J/GH.
How? Is CT's 16nm design, when downclocked, 3 times more efficient? I doubt that. So how is someone gonna archive 0.1J/GH on 16nm within one year?

I personally think that it will be easier to optimise farm locations, rather than hardware from say 0.25J/GH to 0.15J/GH.

I don't know how, but I think we will see 0.1J/GH in 2015 too!

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September 22, 2014, 05:19:58 PM
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I am lost. Where can I find the information about HF's 16nm chip? How can HF keeps taking pre-orders while it still owes us money?
It's what is defined as the next gen design in the court records. HF is not taking any preorder for that as far as I'm aware.

thank you for the reply! how will the next gen design, if properly produced, affect the creditors?

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September 22, 2014, 05:29:20 PM
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I don't know how, but I think we will see 0.1J/GH in 2015 too!
I've just read about BF's roadmap...

thank you for the reply! how will the next gen design, if properly produced, affect the creditors?
It would certainly be positive if you had the huge amount needed for a 16nm tapeout (4x the 28nm cost?).

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September 23, 2014, 04:24:02 PM
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Now, if BFL was really in the bed with HF, as speculated since the beginning of this nightmare... And they arrested three of BFL's managers... And they start to know, talk...

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September 23, 2014, 04:50:25 PM
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Any news on hashfast, or any timeframes to when they can start providing refunds? i thought they started selling alot of items?
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September 23, 2014, 05:07:35 PM
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Now, if BFL was really in the bed with HF, as speculated since the beginning of this nightmare... And they arrested three of BFL's managers... And they start to know, talk...

I think those are only rumors.  I have been looking through as much as is publicly available, and I would find it very surprising if they were indeed in bed together.  They probably tried at one point to join "forces" (I cringe writing that word), but I don't think anything came out of it.  We would have heard and read something.

HOWEVER, if indeed there are some accusations that justifiably stick, and even perhaps finally some criminal procedures, doesn't that create a precedent that would allow us (I wonder who this "us" is now) to inexpensively file a complaint that would finally go somewhere?  There won't be "more" cash for any of us creditors, but it would fit into Miner Minor's wishes since he said he cared more about revenge than actual cash back.

On that note, were Hashfast's books ever reconciled properly?  Why is it that I remember it not being so and there being still many bitcoins unaccounted for? 

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September 23, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
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On that note, were Hashfast's books ever reconciled properly?  Why is it that I remember it not being so and there being still many bitcoins unaccounted for? 





I know of at least one bitcoin addy that has about 3000 btc in it... it has been sitting there since early Sept 2013.  it was only 2 steps away from the address I paid into 210 btc

You can bet there is bitcoins stashed!!!!!!!

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September 23, 2014, 07:10:52 PM
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Now, if BFL was really in the bed with HF, as speculated since the beginning of this nightmare... And they arrested three of BFL's managers... And they start to know, talk...

HashTrade and LiquidBits may have been the connection.

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September 23, 2014, 08:19:22 PM
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I know of at least one bitcoin addy that has about 3000 btc in it... it has been sitting there since early Sept 2013.  it was only 2 steps away from the address I paid into 210 btc

You can bet there is bitcoins stashed!!!!!!!
Barber always said that it was used to pay a supplier. I never got to know the name of the supplier.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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September 23, 2014, 08:20:36 PM
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Now, if BFL was really in the bed with HF, as speculated since the beginning of this nightmare... And they arrested three of BFL's managers... And they start to know, talk...

HashTrade and LiquidBits may have been the connection.

They are miners/cloudminers.  They buy equipment from everyone.  BFL, HF (or TRIED to buy in this case), KnC, Cointerra, Antminer etc...  So I guess you could say there is a link right there.
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September 23, 2014, 08:26:40 PM
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I know of at least one bitcoin addy that has about 3000 btc in it... it has been sitting there since early Sept 2013.  it was only 2 steps away from the address I paid into 210 btc

You can bet there is bitcoins stashed!!!!!!!
Barber always said that it was used to pay a supplier. I never got to know the name of the supplier.

Ah!  If Barber said so, then it MUST be true!!!!!

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September 23, 2014, 08:39:26 PM
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Ah!  If Barber said so, then it MUST be true!!!!! ;-)
Absolutely. No one would ever lie in an email where a customer asks where his payment went. It would be dumb stupid. You just don't answer to that question if you need to cover it.

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September 23, 2014, 08:50:14 PM
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I know of at least one bitcoin addy that has about 3000 btc in it... it has been sitting there since early Sept 2013.  it was only 2 steps away from the address I paid into 210 btc

You can bet there is bitcoins stashed!!!!!!!
Barber always said that it was used to pay a supplier. I never got to know the name of the supplier.

I suppose it was the weed supplier, though I don't have a name too.

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September 23, 2014, 08:58:37 PM
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I just realize, that this (ancient and original) picture looks photoshopped.. plot twist?
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September 23, 2014, 09:00:04 PM
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I suppose it was the weed supplier, though I don't have a name too.
Thanks for the laugh. Again, what the hell is in that picture? I've yet to understand it. Because they told us it was a wafer. What's the size of a wafer of the tsmc 28nm process HF used? 450mm? I find online that tsmc is doing mostly 450mm wafers. If someone wanted to make the math, we know that each wafer makes 196 GN chips... So 196*4 dies... If you knew the size of the die, you could know the size of the wafer HF used...

Because if it was a 450mm one, it would be as big as this one here:



How the hell is a 450mm wafer supposed to fit in Edward's hands there?

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September 23, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
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Remember this one?



We can now speculate further on the contents of that conversation…
Lets go to the bathroom and take some lines. This plate looks perfect.


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September 23, 2014, 09:10:27 PM
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Now, that looks like a 300mm one. It's stil far from fitting in the smashed torner chardrige thing Edward is holding imho. (avalon, older process, smaller wafers).

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September 23, 2014, 09:11:14 PM
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I suppose it was the weed supplier, though I don't have a name too.
Thanks for the laugh. Again, what the hell is in that picture? I've yet to understand it. Because they told us it was a wafer. What's the size of a wafer of the tsmc 28nm process HF used? 450mm? I find online that tsmc is doing mostly 450mm wafers. If someone wanted to make the math, we know that each wafer makes 196 GN chips... So 196*4 dies... If you knew the size of the die, you could know the size of the wafer HF used...

Because if it was a 450mm one, it would be as big as this one here:

How the hell is a 450mm wafer supposed to fit in Edward's hands there?

Where did you find that? Most of TMSC's 28nm lines are 300mm, the rest are 200mm. Last summer they were talking about 450mm being ready 2016-2017
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/2013/06/03/tsmc-future-revealed-450mm-wafers2c-16107nm-finfet2c-cowos-more/
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