Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Just a quick post to give Minersource credit for issuing refund on X3.  Took a few weeks but check came in the mail and cleared.  Thanks for being legit.

Matt/Bobsag, As you continue to provide refunds, could I please have mine as requested multiple times? Thank you.

We are processing all the refunds sent to support@minersource.net.
If you submitted it- we havent forgotten, its just takes a while.

Also... we sell antminers as well... and unlike Ninja we have them in stock and not shipping form china (if hes going to jack the thread anyways)

Thank you, I have forwarded my refund request that was e-mailed to matt@minersource.net on February 1, 2014 to the support e-mail address above as instructed. I suppose that since I sent it to the wrong e-mail address, I go to the back of the queue? I sincerely hope not...

Cheers.

I did indeed get my refund from Minersource. Thank you!

Here is the transaction on the blockchain for anyone interested: https://blockchain.info/tx/d6778dbab9750905179e1398b783a2ec15cd966cf8579962b7a9d3b3433a380e

Not a problem. I have had so many people personally email me for refunds... if it doesnt go to support@minersource it cant be refunded.

How does a viable entity get so many refund requests? Let me re-ask that: How is it possible that a viable entity has so many refund requests?

[coolmusic]

When a company offers a product or service for money and fails to deliver, they can ask nicely to be forgiven, but that firm continuing to exist is not their right.

I agree, in my opinion the key here is where is the line between a reasonable delay making a new product and what is a failure

[xspeed9190]

In case anyone here didn't see the pictures posted earlier:
https://ecointalk.net/gallery/album/13-x1-power-supply/

Does the X-1 come plug and play ready to mine, or do we need to buy anything additional?

EDIT: 
Awesome. thanks man!

[y_boonstra]

In case anyone here didn't see the pictures posted earlier:
https://ecointalk.net/gallery/album/13-x1-power-supply/

Does the X-1 come plug and play ready to mine, or do we need to buy anything additional?

EDIT: 
Awesome. thanks man!

You have to setup a pool from wich you want to mine..

[xspeed9190]

In case anyone here didn't see the pictures posted earlier:
https://ecointalk.net/gallery/album/13-x1-power-supply/

Does the X-1 come plug and play ready to mine, or do we need to buy anything additional?

EDIT: 
Awesome. thanks man!

You have to setup a pool from wich you want to mine..

I figured that much.  i was just concerned with having to by additional things to even get started.  I am new to the asic world and as I was looking I noticed some didnt come with PSU and others you needed some extra random part like that one miner needed a PSU jumper.  If I am going to drop the money I want it to be ready to roll.

Do you mean you have to have a local stratum set up like the block erupter cube or just point it to the pool u want to mine?

[xspeed9190]

In case anyone here didn't see the pictures posted earlier:
https://ecointalk.net/gallery/album/13-x1-power-supply/

Does the X-1 come plug and play ready to mine, or do we need to buy anything additional?

EDIT: 
Awesome. thanks man!

You have to setup a pool from wich you want to mine..

I figured that much.  i was just concerned with having to by additional things to even get started.  I am new to the asic world and as I was looking I noticed some didnt come with PSU and others you needed some extra random part like that one miner needed a PSU jumper.  If I am going to drop the money I want it to be ready to roll.

Do you mean you have to have a local stratum set up like the block erupter cube or just point it to the pool u want to mine?

These will come with PSU's built in, but you will need to plug them into your network somehow.  Depending on how many you order you may need a switch (if there are too many or you already have stuff plugged into your router's extra ports).  You will also need 1 ethernet cable for each one.

Understood, thank you all for the info.  Once some of my alts pump I will likely order a few.  I am only a little hesitant about what KnC is going to announce along with ASICMiner.  But I am sure they will not be as cost effective for us little guys like Black Arrow.

[jimmothy]

In case anyone here didn't see the pictures posted earlier:
https://ecointalk.net/gallery/album/13-x1-power-supply/

Does the X-1 come plug and play ready to mine, or do we need to buy anything additional?

EDIT: 
Awesome. thanks man!

You have to setup a pool from wich you want to mine..

I figured that much.  i was just concerned with having to by additional things to even get started.  I am new to the asic world and as I was looking I noticed some didnt come with PSU and others you needed some extra random part like that one miner needed a PSU jumper.  If I am going to drop the money I want it to be ready to roll.

Do you mean you have to have a local stratum set up like the block erupter cube or just point it to the pool u want to mine?

These will come with PSU's built in, but you will need to plug them into your network somehow.  Depending on how many you order you may need a switch (if there are too many or you already have stuff plugged into your router's extra ports).  You will also need 1 ethernet cable for each one.

Understood, thank you all for the info.  Once some of my alts pump I will likely order a few.  I am only a little hesitant about what KnC is going to announce along with ASICMiner.  But I am sure they will not be as cost effective for us little guys like Black Arrow.

Don't bother preordering. Huge risk and no benefit. Just wait until BA is shipping to make your decision.  It is likely asicminer gen3 devices will be out by then.

[xspeed9190]

Thanks, that's what I was thinking but wasn't sure what the consensus was. 

[Unacceptable]

In case anyone here didn't see the pictures posted earlier:
https://ecointalk.net/gallery/album/13-x1-power-supply/

Does the X-1 come plug and play ready to mine, or do we need to buy anything additional?

EDIT: 
Awesome. thanks man!

You have to setup a pool from wich you want to mine..

I figured that much.  i was just concerned with having to by additional things to even get started.  I am new to the asic world and as I was looking I noticed some didnt come with PSU and others you needed some extra random part like that one miner needed a PSU jumper.  If I am going to drop the money I want it to be ready to roll.

Do you mean you have to have a local stratum set up like the block erupter cube or just point it to the pool u want to mine?

These will come with PSU's built in, but you will need to plug them into your network somehow.  Depending on how many you order you may need a switch (if there are too many or you already have stuff plugged into your router's extra ports).  You will also need 1 ethernet cable for each one.

Understood, thank you all for the info.  Once some of my alts pump I will likely order a few.  I am only a little hesitant about what KnC is going to announce along with ASICMiner.  But I am sure they will not be as cost effective for us little guys like Black Arrow.

Don't bother preordering. Huge risk and no benefit. Just wait until BA is shipping to make your decision.  It is likely asicminer gen3 devices will be out by then.

Exactly !!!!  Good advice jimmothy !!!!!! I think we'll get a surprise from Bitmain as well 

IF Blackarrow starts showing proof,IE: working chips & working prototypes,THEN think about "pre-ordering".Until then don't bother..............

[ChuckBuck]

Totally agree.  The pre-order model should be outdated already.  Delays and scammy companies leave customers with a bad taste.

I'm also awaiting announcements and upcoming release dates for AM and Bitmain, as well as, keeping my BA pre-orders(might as well as this point).

[mr.minhghi]

Too hard to get a refund, last month i email, today i call them,  next week i will fly to US to see them maybe.

Does anyone know how to sue a company from oversea?

[ChuckBuck]

Too hard to get a refund, last month i email, today i call them,  next week i will fly to US to see them maybe.

Does anyone know how to sue a company from oversea?

Isn't Black Arrow in China though?

Address:
801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048

[Unacceptable]

Too hard to get a refund, last month i email, today i call them,  next week i will fly to US to see them maybe.

Does anyone know how to sue a company from oversea?

Isn't Black Arrow in China though?

Address:
801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048

The question of where Black Arrow are located has been vociferously debated for at least the last three months on this thread.

It's easy really, if they were legit they'd publish where they are located but they don't, do they?

 

Ask bobsag3,he visited them back in late Nov/early Dec   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=352607.msg3884789#msg3884789

[bobsag3]

Too hard to get a refund, last month i email, today i call them,  next week i will fly to US to see them maybe.

Does anyone know how to sue a company from oversea?

Isn't Black Arrow in China though?

Address:
801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048

The question of where Black Arrow are located has been vociferously debated for at least the last three months on this thread.

It's easy really, if they were legit they'd publish where they are located but they don't, do they?

 

Ask bobsag3,he visited them back in late Nov/early Dec   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=352607.msg3884789#msg3884789

Thats them, Theres a pic in there of the sign for their office at that address. trust me- there were ~10th of bf running there for testing purposes back then. hard to ignore in all the photos.

[Dogeprevails]

Could I get some advice?
I ordered through Minersource but decided to try to get a refund. They agreed but I made a dumb mistake and actually entered the Minersource x-1 payment address (from the Coinbase receipt) as the address to refund the bitcoins, not my actual bitcoin address. Minersource in effect refunded the bitcoins to their own address. I realized my error and wrote back with my proper refund address.

But its been 3 days and no reply from minersource. What do?                              


TXID: 1598a6adb882621714ea6f3e257f67fbf189aa2a03bc1ef0df3877e6c692689a

[Biomech]

Could I get some advice?
I ordered through Minersource but decided to try to get a refund. They agreed but I made a dumb mistake and actually entered the Minersource x-1 payment address (from the Coinbase receipt) as the address to refund the bitcoins, not my actual bitcoin address. Minersource in effect refunded the bitcoins to their own address. I realized my error and wrote back with my proper refund address.

But its been 3 days and no reply from minersource. What do?                              


TXID: 1598a6adb882621714ea6f3e257f67fbf189aa2a03bc1ef0df3877e6c692689a

PM Bobsag3. He'll probably be able to fix it. Other than that, just keep on 'em.

[bobsag3]

Could I get some advice?
I ordered through Minersource but decided to try to get a refund. They agreed but I made a dumb mistake and actually entered the Minersource x-1 payment address (from the Coinbase receipt) as the address to refund the bitcoins, not my actual bitcoin address. Minersource in effect refunded the bitcoins to their own address. I realized my error and wrote back with my proper refund address.

But its been 3 days and no reply from minersource. What do?                              


TXID: 1598a6adb882621714ea6f3e257f67fbf189aa2a03bc1ef0df3877e6c692689a

We didnt get a response back to the ticket after the refund was sent.. whoops! Just send a reply to that same ticket, and we will pick it up.

[Dogeprevails]

Could I get some advice?
I ordered through Minersource but decided to try to get a refund. They agreed but I made a dumb mistake and actually entered the Minersource x-1 payment address (from the Coinbase receipt) as the address to refund the bitcoins, not my actual bitcoin address. Minersource in effect refunded the bitcoins to their own address. I realized my error and wrote back with my proper refund address.

But its been 3 days and no reply from minersource. What do?                              


TXID: 1598a6adb882621714ea6f3e257f67fbf189aa2a03bc1ef0df3877e6c692689a

We didnt get a response back to the ticket after the refund was sent.. whoops! Just send a reply to that same ticket, and we will pick it up.

great, was worried there for a bit. Reply sent.

[nexus99]

Could I get some advice?
I ordered through Minersource but decided to try to get a refund. They agreed but I made a dumb mistake and actually entered the Minersource x-1 payment address (from the Coinbase receipt) as the address to refund the bitcoins, not my actual bitcoin address. Minersource in effect refunded the bitcoins to their own address. I realized my error and wrote back with my proper refund address.

But its been 3 days and no reply from minersource. What do?                              


TXID: 1598a6adb882621714ea6f3e257f67fbf189aa2a03bc1ef0df3877e6c692689a

Be glad you didn't give them some 3rd party address. The coins would be gone!

[LennonNZ]

Very good LennonNZ So am i right to say that Alexandru Ion Sovu is the guy that is in control of my hard earned cash and he lives in that address in the uk !

My information is fact (not rumours) Taken from the Hong Kong companies office and you can take it as you will. All the information is in the PDFs

He is the Director of Black Arrow the company but the owner is a British Virgin Islands company which I have not gone any further with. It may be the same.