[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

[bitmoon]

Guys,  Question.

How do I get into Bitfunder.  I lost my phone that I use the 2 step google authy on during this whole bitfunder mess.  I cant log into bitfunder since the password was set up for my old phone.  How do i bypass google authy, or use my new phone to get into my bitfunder account to get the transfer info.

Thanks

Jason

did you write down the key?

if not, you have no way of getting it back, you have to work with ukyo

[Ozymandias]

So I ask again, what are we supposed to take away from this?

That some people really crave attention.

[iSnow]

Testing sample chips by mining I am assuming. Noticed they needed to modify software for said sample chips. Stopped mining with said sample chips so they can modify the software for said sample chips. No more massive transactions while sample chips are not mining.

OK, but the time-frame between the last regular div payout and the last big inbound transactions is about a month. So no more tests since then? And 4 weeks of test runs was enough to develop IntelliHash? No thermal tests since then?

This goes contrary to all I know about software development (and which I believe to be true for FPGA development too).

[JoTheKhan]

Testing sample chips by mining I am assuming. Noticed they needed to modify software for said sample chips. Stopped mining with said sample chips so they can modify the software for said sample chips. No more massive transactions while sample chips are not mining.

OK, but the time-frame between the last regular div payout and the last big inbound transactions is about a month. So no more tests since then? And 4 weeks of test runs was enough to develop IntelliHash? No thermal tests since then?

This goes contrary to all I know about software development (and which I believe to be true for FPGA development too).

I don't even think they are close to being done with Intellihash. My assumption is right now they are in the debugging phase, if that. Coding is a small portion of developing software.

[iSnow]

I don't even think they are close to being done with Intellihash. My assumption is right now they are in the debugging phase, if that. Coding is a small portion of developing software.

This can't be true because in the debugging phase of anything software, you have to run it a lot. Either it is done or it is not for real or Ken does not transfer the generated coins to the address anymore.

[JoTheKhan]

I don't even think they are close to being done with Intellihash. My assumption is right now they are in the debugging phase, if that. Coding is a small portion of developing software.

This can't be true because in the debugging phase of anything software, you have to run it a lot. Either it is done or it is not for real or Ken does not transfer the generated coins to the address anymore.

Yeah but it's not a beta test. Maybe they aren't making it hash, just turning it on and testing the software. I don't think it means they have to mine with it. Maybe they don't have the chips and have outsourced the development? These are just some educated guesses. We believed the extra hashrate were sample chips, we gained news that Ken was working on software AND due to this software, extra software modification has to be done to the sample chips. Maybe whoever gave us the chips is doing modification to the software the chips were previously using. There are two different pieces of software that need to work with each other I am assuming. The one used to run the chips and the Intelihash software which provides this 20% increase as difficulty goes up.

[SebastianJu]

VE:

It is fascinating how when people complain about a thread, their postings do not contribute much to the thread and are just more whining. Personally, and once again, we here agree with you, VE. It was a good time and when Ken DOES come through and the price of ActM hits .0127 and I can unload all my shares for that price and then sell it all for $1300 US for each bitcoin, I will buy a couple of harley's and sidecars (sidecars for the girls we meet) and give you one if you agree to wander around Mexico with me.  We will use my iphone's 3g to send messages back here to this thread to tell people what fun we are having thanks to Ken.


If no one said anything here except things that were facts and if only informational posts from Ken or based upon real data were permitted, we would have maybe one post a week if that many.


This is way more fun, boys.

14 pages in 24 hours... i never set a user to ignore but now i do it to a couple users. The amount of useless fights in here is hefty.

Actually it was quite the friendly party in here.  We were quoting Shakespeare, listening to Lorenzo (the great)'s wise words, and feeding  Ken our children.. it was good times

Right, my post was useless like most of the others. Probably the anger having spent the time to go through so much info with zero info. I dont really see it as fun since at the end of the day im angry and asking myself where all the time went and why i didnt get more things done. Maybe ignoring the people that post useless things all the time will help a bit to slighten this...

At some point you guys are going to have to accept that if you want useful information you should just check Ken's post history. Until this point, feel free to look at this thread for updates. Though it is a "Discussion" Thread and you will be sorely disappointed like always. There just really isn't any meaningful discussion today it seems.

The problem with only checking kens posts or the announcement thread is that ken only posts things he like. Any other things like problems or something would be posted here moste probably. And if you will find such risks you need to go through this all unfortunately.

[JoTheKhan]

Sebastian I agree but people call any doubt posted on the forums "FUD" and "Trolling" and when we ask Ken a question they respond "He already answered that (by dodging the question)". And these people only seem to be happy when Ken post something. They claim to "ignore" anyone who is bringing up concerns but then complain that that person is still posting in the thread: "Omg I have VE on ignore but you are quoting him so I'm going to complain and whine because I can't just scroll passed it.". Easiest way to satisfy them is to have them just check Ken's posts. Apparently that's all they care about. If they want to complain about looking through a forum (voluntarily) because they are invested in a company (voluntarily) then they need to get used to the fact that not all the discussion on this discussion thread is going to be between two mature people or just leave the thread and dump their shares at the earliest possible moment.

[Stuartuk]

mmmm

VE I'm not even sure you believe this latest conspiracy theory yourself.

Firstly the timing is very convenient isn't it? We are about to list on an exchange and you suddenly come out with a 'negative news story' - seriously are you after cheap shares or what? Can you show us any proof that:

1) You still have your claimed 50k
and
2) You are NOT desperate to buy many more shares after this weeks excellent Official news update??

Now firstly, I know that I and my friends have posted up pics on Facebook months after they have been taken - so your theory is majorly flawed. And second,  Ken does not assemble the sample chips to boards in this storage space. Ken has said several times that a highly experienced engineering firm does that work - obviously at their own location. So this unit in Springfield is and has only been for a small testplace and workspace for ken (an office) and a receiving address for cases and eventually for final stage assembly. We do not yet have finished chips for final-stage assembly. The sample chips went straight to ACtMs engineering contractors. So the possibility that the Springfield unit was mostly empty over a month ago (or much more as mentioned) is really not a revelation.

You want cheap shares - fact.
The timing of this purely FUD post just before shares start trading again is pathetic and quite desperate. You are trying to rip off ACtM shareholders - fact. Shame on you. Shame on you.

[smiley35]

Guys I think arguing about who wants cheap shares or not is besides the point. There is no one to buy.

[Bargraphics]

Guys I think arguing about who wants cheap shares or not is besides the point. There is no one to buy.

Dude you probably just want cheap shares too 

[zumzero]

mmmm

VE I'm not even sure you believe this latest conspiracy theory yourself.

Firstly the timing is very convenient isn't it? We are about to list on an exchange and you suddenly come out with a 'negative news story' - seriously are you after cheap shares or what? Can you show us any proof that:

1) You still have your claimed 50k
and
2) You are NOT desperate to buy many more shares after this weeks excellent Official news update??

Now firstly, I know that I send my friends have posted up pics on Facebook months after they have been taken - so you theory is majorly flawed. And second,  Ken does not assemble the sample chips to boards in this storage space. Ken has said several times that a highly experienced engineering firm does that work - obviously at their own location. So this unit in Springfield is and has only been for a small testplace and workspace for ken (an office) and a receiving address for cases and eventually for final stage assembly. We do not yet have finished chips for final-stage assembly. The sample chips went straight to ACtMs engineering contractors. So the possibility that the Springfield unit was mostly empty over a month ago (or much more as mentioned) is really not a revelation.

You want cheap shares - fact.
The timing of this purely FUD post just before shares start reading again is pathetic and quite desperate. You are trying to rip off ACtM shareholders - fact. Shame on you. Shame on you.

+1 agreed.

He's made as much of a mess of this failed attempt to spread fud as he did over his btct.co fiasco when he gifted Ken $5000. LOL.  He's still tending his butthurt over that one and is holding a grudge because Ken said no when he asked for his money back.  Loser.

VE is happy to lose money on his investment so long as he gets some sort of deluded revenge on Ken, and that's what makes him so dangerous.  Everything he says is some sort of play and that makes his word worth shit.

[smiley35]

Guys I think arguing about who wants cheap shares or not is besides the point. There is no one to buy.

Dude you probably just want cheap shares too 

I would like to sell a couple and get some money back finally, But I can't bring myself to let them go for anything under .015.  I'm just saying we need buyers to realize a fair price and it might be a couple weeks before people start to look to the btc stock markets again.

[Bargraphics]

Guys I think arguing about who wants cheap shares or not is besides the point. There is no one to buy.

Dude you probably just want cheap shares too 

I would like to sell a couple and get some money back finally, But I can't bring myself to let them go for anything under .015.  I'm just saying we need buyers to realize a fair price and it might be a couple weeks before people start to look to the btc stock markets again.

I was being sarcastic, sorry 

[VolanicEruptor]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358820.msg3869275#msg3869275 0.1 BTC for any proof of shipping hardware

[drawingthesun]

Hey guys I spoke with Ken and I am sure this is not a scam, however we need to be quiet towards our contractors (eASIC) as they are receiving too many emails from people in this thread.

I am now sure the best course of action is to let this place chill for a little while, ignore VE (And ignoring me would probably be a good idea as I am a little emotional at the moment), and let Ken get through December. Either he manages to get this to work or not, but our emails/PM's/etc.. are not helping and slowing him down.

I really think we should sit back and give Ken the whole of December to sort out this situation, we can pray something comes out good in January.

Also if we all start shouting scam it's likely the SEC will get involved and remember, we have already spent all the money on eASIC, so getting outside organizations involved will simply rob Ken of completing his work and we will never make any money, at least if we wait out December we then give Ken a fighting chance.

Thanks.

[wasubii]

I really think we should sit back and give Ken the whole of December to sort out this situation, we can pray something comes out good in January.

If Ken wants or needs the whole month of December then he can bloody well come on here and ask for it!

[kslaughter]

I think if Ken ever wants to stand a chance, he needs to stop hiring his own family members and hire skilled professionals who actually have asic experience

And who in the hell is going to build these machines, these ASIC professionals.

[JoTheKhan]

Ken, if you think we can stay on target by "Giving you December and January" then we won't be against it (I assume, though I don't exactly know what this means). That is not the problem. We gain a lot of our information about this company from other investors who go into reporter/spectator mode every other week and post new information they dug up or were able to work out from your very vague post. As it has been pointed out before, if you can inform us about information before we have people here emailing/calling your family, employees and associates then the people in this thread will stop doing it.

Just like you want December and January to line everything up and have the company rolling, investors want to see the timeline; want to see that you are on track; want to help out where we can, want to know if we are falling behind schedule and if so, why? All you have to do is keep us informed with the good news AND the bad news. That's it. We have stated before that you should hire a PR person if possible, also hire hands to help you build the machines if necessary. Just keep us informed. It's the silence about it all that cause the thread to go crazy.

[hobbymd]

I really think we should sit back and give Ken the whole of December to sort out this situation, we can pray something comes out good in January.

If Ken wants or needs the whole month of December then he can bloody well come on here and ask for it!

I want the whole month of December and January.  I wish all of you would STFU.

Does that mean we shouldn't expect any good news until February at the earliest?

it looks like it we gonna get satoshi dust for the next couple of months... ugh   even Icedrill looks like will get up to hashing before us.


anybody can tell me what is the point of  having this intelihash thingy when  by the time we have it set up in Feb 2014( earliest without delay) that 20% more hashing power does mean a jack ?!?! sounds like a gimmick,  or am I missing something?!