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October 19, 2018, 09:51:25 AM |
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@teteczv - If you wish to escalate the situation further you are welcome to contact our ADR, who would be able to investigate the issue independently using the information provided by both parties to come to an impartial decision.
I can't comment on the investigation myself as I have no information about player's betting history, and wouldn't know what to look for even if I did. If it's all a mistake then i'll be issuing a rather large apology and expecting an explanation from our teams on how you were falsely flagged, with assurances that this won't happen to others in future.
Ronnie @ Cloudbet
Escalate the situation? I didn't create any situation, you did that when you locked my account without any reason and try to steal my money. What did you expect, that I will seat calm and watch you are stealing the money? Situation you say, there was no situation, I was betting singles in the 50-150 euros region size bets. If there is anyone normal and sane in Cloudbet, can he answer the simpliest question of all, If I knew of any fixed game, shouldn't I bet big on such a game? It is obvious that this "investigation" of yours has nothing to do with betting inetgrity, which is one of the most stupid expression and explanation I have ever heard of. You are simply buying time, delaying on purpose.
I don't want to escalate any situation, I want you to unlock my account so I can withdraw my money and forget about your ugly service. If you don't want winning players just put that on your site. You can put a sign, something like we only serve loosing customers.
I don't know what is ADR, and I cannot contact anyone at Cloudbet because, guess what, THEY DON'T RESPOND TO EMAILS. Not even to confirm that they get my documents. How is that for customer service?
So be kind enough and tell me what is ADR and how can I contact him, them, or whatever? I just want this nightmare to be over. And I learnt my lesson, I will never deposit to shity, unlicensed sportsbook ever again.
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October 19, 2018, 04:09:17 PM |
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@teteczv Our ADR is EGM, you can find their contact page here. You aren't being investigated for winning, but because our system flagged some activity as suspicious. As I've stated previously I don't know why you were flagged specifically as I'm not involved with the investigation process, but we would never refuse to pay out winners - any crypto casino and sportsbook deliberately refusing legitimate payouts wouldn't last long in a niche industry. Thanks very much, Ronnie @ Cloudbet
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October 19, 2018, 05:27:22 PM |
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@teteczv Our ADR is EGM, you can find their contact page here. You aren't being investigated for winning, but because our system flagged some activity as suspicious. As I've stated previously I don't know why you were flagged specifically as I'm not involved with the investigation process, but we would never refuse to pay out winners - any crypto casino and sportsbook deliberately refusing legitimate payouts wouldn't last long in a niche industry. Thanks very much, Ronnie @ Cloudbet @Ronnie You seem a nice person, you are always courteous and forthcoming. You are helpful and try your best but I think you should not be representing Cloudbet in any capacity. The "suspicious" flag/activity card is usually used by gaming/gambling sites when they selectively scam users. There are obviously problems with Cloudbet and their operations, there is no need for you to taint your good name with these people. Let Cloudbet use someone else to be their public face, you deserve better than this. |
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October 19, 2018, 06:50:25 PM
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@teteczv Our ADR is EGM, you can find their contact page here. You aren't being investigated for winning, but because our system flagged some activity as suspicious. As I've stated previously I don't know why you were flagged specifically as I'm not involved with the investigation process, but we would never refuse to pay out winners - any crypto casino and sportsbook deliberately refusing legitimate payouts wouldn't last long in a niche industry. Thanks very much, Ronnie @ Cloudbet First of all, you keep repeating flagged activity, betting integrity, suspicious activity, all empty woprds. So far you didn't offer here ONE SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE. Not one. I call you to post my entire betting history, you gave me excuses. I dear you now to post ONE SINGLE SUSPICIOUS BET. Only one. Let see what are you accusing me off. I know that you are not involved in the investigations, but since you work for Cloudbet, how difficult is for you to obtain ONE SINGLE SUSPICIOUS BET from my betting history and present it here? Only one thiny bet? Is that impossible? You will not do that again, because there are no such bets. Cloudbet is making up fancy stories in atempt to steal players money. Second, you have just offered me to submit complain to E-gambling Montenegro. Let see for example what Ask Gamblers, very reputable casino review site has to say about E-gambling Montenegro: https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/cloud-bet-casino-review/Copy paste from the page: NOTE: WARNING: Cloudbet Casino operates under E-Gambling Montenegro license, a licensing authority whose legal rights to organize games of chance via internet and other telecommunication channels have been a matter of court trial recently and not yet decided. Do you understand meaning of this? CLOUDBET IS WORKING WITHOUT LEGAL LICENSE. Is that simple. And you are expecting me to ask justice from a shady company being currently on several trials on Montenegro courts, and the only reason they are still operating is that the company owner is Montenegro prime minister cousin? This is where I shouls sick justice? You got to be kiding me. I tell you what. Here is ESSA. http://www.eu-ssa.org/They are impartial organization investigating suspicious and alegedly fixed games. Why don't you send them suspicious games from my betting history and see what will they told you. I bet they will have good laugh. Well, I'm preparing one big post with my case and the investigations that I have done on Cloudbet and E-gambling Montenegro. When I'm done I will publish it on SBR forum, and basicaly on every betting and bitcoin forum I have heard off. And I will bump on those threads each and every day. I will also wright to the owners of SBR and the other forums and warn them that they are promoting scam. I will make sure that I'm the last person Cloudbet has scamed. I garantee you that no matter how much you pay SBR to keep your rating, no one will ever deposit to Cloudbet again. |
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October 19, 2018, 06:54:29 PM |
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@teteczv
I actually think Ronnie is a good guy here just trying to help out by linking the forum users to the Cloudbet site owners, probably without any pay just trying help out.
There is no need to get frustrated with Ronnie. Though it seems you have a valid case to be upset I would request you complain to the gambling licence issuer now because the owners of Cloudbet are ignoring you and Ronnie has no effective power to do anything about it.
It is good enough that information sent to Ronnie is at least getting traction with the Cloudbet site owners with some form of response in most cases. I know it is not not enough but still you should contact the licence issuer and complain now because they Cloudbet owners are messing you about.
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October 19, 2018, 07:11:41 PM |
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@teteczv
I actually think Ronnie is a good guy here just trying to help out by linking the forum users to the Cloudbet site owners, probably without any pay just trying help out.
There is no need to get frustrated with Ronnie. Though it seems you have a valid case to be upset I would request you complain to the gambling licence issuer now because the owners of Cloudbet are ignoring you and Ronnie has no effective power to do anything about it.
It is good enough that information sent to Ronnie is at least getting traction with the Cloudbet site owners with some form of response in most cases. I know it is not not enough but still you should contact the licence issuer and complain now because they Cloudbet owners are messing you about.
I have absolutely nothing against Ronnie, but still he is trying to downplay and silenced people who have valid cases. Complaint to E-gambling Montenegro will be as efective as complaint to the mailman. They are taking 10 000 euros per month from Cloudbet, and the possibilty to take players side in any kind of dispute is close to zero. I'm from Croatia and Montenegro is neighbouring country, and I very well know how things go there. Montenegro is one of the most corrupted countrys in Europe. In any other european country E-gambling Montenegro would have been closed long time ago. This is all my faulth, I should have checked all this long before I deposited to this scam side. I will make sure no one else make that mistake. |
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October 19, 2018, 08:06:07 PM |
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@teteczv
I actually think Ronnie is a good guy here just trying to help out by linking the forum users to the Cloudbet site owners, probably without any pay just trying help out.
There is no need to get frustrated with Ronnie. Though it seems you have a valid case to be upset I would request you complain to the gambling licence issuer now because the owners of Cloudbet are ignoring you and Ronnie has no effective power to do anything about it.
It is good enough that information sent to Ronnie is at least getting traction with the Cloudbet site owners with some form of response in most cases. I know it is not not enough but still you should contact the licence issuer and complain now because they Cloudbet owners are messing you about.
I have absolutely nothing against Ronnie, but still he is trying to downplay and silenced people who have valid cases. Complaint to E-gambling Montenegro will be as efective as complaint to the mailman. They are taking 10 000 euros per month from Cloudbet, and the possibilty to take players side in any kind of dispute is close to zero. I'm from Croatia and Montenegro is neighbouring country, and I very well know how things go there. Montenegro is one of the most corrupted countrys in Europe. In any other european country E-gambling Montenegro would have been closed long time ago. This is all my faulth, I should have checked all this long before I deposited to this scam side. I will make sure no one else make that mistake. If you have round 2000EUR that they are not giving access to you to then that is unacceptable but if anything it sounds like a typical case of selective scamming. Sorry to read about your issue. I think it is time take the complaint to a higher level because you are not getting any joy. Even with the corruption before you make a complaint to the licence issuer maybe you should do the ADR way first as Ronnie suggested. |
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October 19, 2018, 11:04:53 PM
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Hey, Cloudbet, what's going on with your site? Why I can't bet on so many events in recent weeks, especially when it comes to smaller and less popular leagues. Here is example:  Or another example:  Just 2 games you're offering to bet, despite that 4 matches will be played on Saturday in ACB league. |
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October 20, 2018, 10:45:04 AM |
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Hey, Cloudbet, what's going on with your site? Why I can't bet on so many events in recent weeks, especially when it comes to smaller and less popular leagues. Here is example: https://i.imgur.com/Slp1UX7.pngOr another example: https://i.imgur.com/lamuISY.pngJust 2 games you're offering to bet, despite that 4 matches will be played on Saturday in ACB league. I am waiting for the answer 2 weeks already, don't expect it to come soon  The only offer I see is tennis couple of games, and just a few soccer games. |
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October 22, 2018, 11:37:30 AM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
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October 22, 2018, 11:44:37 AM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them |
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October 22, 2018, 11:54:23 AM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them Why do you think so? You think that after my experience there will be another fool to deposit with Cloudbet? |
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October 22, 2018, 12:06:09 PM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them Why do you think so? You think that after my experience there will be another fool to deposit with Cloudbet? What is your next step to try to get your 2000 EUR? |
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October 22, 2018, 12:09:00 PM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them This piece of shit is payed shiller for Cloudbet. Ignore his/hers retarded posts and give him/her red trust as I did. |
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October 22, 2018, 12:20:18 PM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them This piece of shit is payed shiller for Cloudbet. Ignore his/hers retarded posts and give him/her red trust as I did. I already have that scammer on IGNORE but thanks for the post to alert others |
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October 22, 2018, 12:21:38 PM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them Why do you think so? You think that after my experience there will be another fool to deposit with Cloudbet? What is your next step to try to get your 2000 EUR? I'm not sure. I will try to inform as much people as possible about Cloudbet. Shering information on this scam site is the only thing I have now, and I'm waiting SBR to do something about my complaint. |
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October 22, 2018, 12:43:23 PM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them Why do you think so? You think that after my experience there will be another fool to deposit with Cloudbet? there always is someone also dont mind that 4x4x retard, he must have something loose in his head also JolyGood calling me a scammer for no reason lmao, shows the picture of how retarded people are here = a lot of people will still deposit into the sitr even with some people having problems |
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October 22, 2018, 12:49:09 PM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them Why do you think so? You think that after my experience there will be another fool to deposit with Cloudbet? there always is someone also dont mind that 4x4x retard, he must have something loose in his head also JolyGood calling me a scammer for no reason lmao, shows the picture of how retarded people are here = a lot of people will still deposit into the sitr even with some people having problems OK than, I will bump here every day informing people what kind of scam Cloudbet is running and keep this thread alive, and if people still want to deposit on Cloudbet, that is just fine. |
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October 22, 2018, 12:52:41 PM |
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Bump.
As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.
I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.
the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them Why do you think so? You think that after my experience there will be another fool to deposit with Cloudbet? there always is someone also dont mind that 4x4x retard, he must have something loose in his head also JolyGood calling me a scammer for no reason lmao, shows the picture of how retarded people are here = a lot of people will still deposit into the sitr even with some people having problems OK than, I will bump here every day informing people what kind of scam Cloudbet is running and keep this thread alive, and if people still want to deposit on Cloudbet, that is just fine. good luck, i hope it will get resolved in your favour somehow and that you will get your money |
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October 22, 2018, 01:45:48 PM |
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What is your next step to try to get your 2000 EUR?
I'm not sure. I will try to inform as much people as possible about Cloudbet. Shering information on this scam site is the only thing I have now, and I'm waiting SBR to do something about my complaint. Informing people about your plight is the right way forward but you have to be proactive in other ways too. These "SBR" people you wrote to about your complaint might not see things your way so you need another plan just in case as a back up. I hope you get your money back, this sounds like selective scamming to me. Cloudbet should allow you access to your funds. |
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