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Author Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information  (Read 2761529 times)
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January 28, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
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This will be the next big milestone in NXT history. This may happen soon I guess.
NXT has got the biggest future ahead with all new fresh technology. People getting adopted to nxt.

Litecoin was like $0.1 last year and skyrocketed in no time once people started believing and accepting altcoins. So no wonder nxt gonna stand tall among all other altcoins and be a real good competiton atleast to Litecoin.


Just out of curiosity guys, but are there any plans to have exchanges trade FIAT directly for NXT?


This is feel is really necessary to get NXT to stand on it's own two feet and make the market more accessible to the average joe. A big part of me really feels that as long as this never happens, it's going to be much harder for NXT to provide any real competition to BTC and/or any other altcoin in existence right now. If NXT was one of the first to adopt this sort of thing, I think it would be potentially huge for this rising currency.

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January 28, 2014, 11:12:54 AM
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a sneak peak to my idea about a green Nxt video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic_WLMPX888&feature=youtu.be

I get a "Not available in your county"......salsacz do you have something against Australians?  Smiley

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January 28, 2014, 11:19:23 AM
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1 vote 1 human is impossible because of all possibilities of cheating...

So:
Rule 1: There should be a census - minimal amount of Nxts owned on account to be able to vote.

Rule 2: Only enough experienced NXTers should be able to vote (because of possiblity of exploting Rule 1 and level of user maturity is important)

Precise numbers are up to you. I would say minimum of 100 NXTs and a month of owning it.

/edit
Rule 3: Quality of vote makes differece (like shares in stock company) - more NXTs more power of vote - not proportionally of course... maybe 1 vote for first 10 NXTs and 1 more for each next 1000 NXTs ?

3 rules should be enough. You can't make it perfect after all... nothing is perfect...

/endedit

This is logical that only owning certain amount of NXTs for a long enough time makes person a real member of community with bigger probability that he actually knows anything about it...

That's basicly how greek direct democracy worked too...

I would even say that there could be something like a 2 grade votings. Less important stuff decided in majority voting and these really important decissions made in smaller, elite, arystocracy-like type of voting with higher requirements.


Direct democracy works only when there is up to 100000 equal people deciding.
In all democracies there is elite which show nation a direction to mass less interested in politics.

All today democracies aren't direct and people doesn't really decide and they passivly agree that minority rules them... and in many cases there is no real aristocracy to show direction but only bunch of thieves trying to steal as much as possible before next election...

I would also put into voting a possibility of choosing 1 good person for a NXT King Wink
Kingdom can be good or bad depends who is a King but demoracy is always stupid and ends badly Wink
I will repeat it in future when NXt will face inevitable problem of populistic votings (if voting wil be without 2 requirements above) Wink


1 NXT = 1 vote Huh Power to the few screwing majority... good luck with that. Nxt is already enough olygarchic... you want voting monopol too?
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January 28, 2014, 11:21:01 AM
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Speaking about voting. Can we just make it possible to choose method when one starts a voting? And maybe even edit parameters?
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January 28, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
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Guess who is BACK!  Cheesy

our true love?!?
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January 28, 2014, 11:27:20 AM
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Speaking about voting. Can we just make it possible to choose method when one starts a voting? And maybe even edit parameters?

Yes, we can.

For all the people discussing voting (and I appreciate it!), let's not focus on whether it's 1 NXT = 1 vote or 1 account = 1 vote - it's neither.

If we want to solve it we need to find a clever, unexpected, original solution.

So start throwing here your crazy ideas, like "voting with your car" or "voting with your cat", instead of going in circles.

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January 28, 2014, 11:28:35 AM
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Guess who is BACK!  Cheesy

p.s. obv not talking about me Cheesy

Perfect timing...

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January 28, 2014, 11:28:42 AM
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January 28, 2014, 11:30:51 AM
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P.S. By the way I didn't know there was a rule on using caps in this forum.

There is no rule. We are a self-organized community, so just let's try and be better at things we do.

Bold is for something really important, like an announcement, that you don't want people to miss.

Italic is commonly accepted for emphasis, it doesn't "jump" at you from the page like bold.

I never use italics i'm sorry its just not my thing but you can choose to ignore when I write in caps.   Smiley





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January 28, 2014, 11:34:13 AM
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Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.
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January 28, 2014, 11:38:21 AM
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a sneak peak to my idea about a green Nxt video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic_WLMPX888&feature=youtu.be

Video made me smile: idea + you linked to mynxt.org Smiley

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January 28, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
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Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

Seems like a lot of people is stalking you! The second you log on, there is someone that already knows.



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January 28, 2014, 11:39:13 AM
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Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

hit by bus?

welcome back how are you?

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January 28, 2014, 11:40:16 AM
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Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

Omg, you were hit by a bus. The community knew it.

Everything ok?
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January 28, 2014, 11:40:41 AM
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Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

Hopefully nothing serious! Welcome back!
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January 28, 2014, 11:41:09 AM
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Speaking about voting. Can we just make it possible to choose method when one starts a voting? And maybe even edit parameters?

Yes, we can.

For all the people discussing voting (and I appreciate it!), let's not focus on whether it's 1 NXT = 1 vote or 1 account = 1 vote - it's neither.

If we want to solve it we need to find a clever, unexpected, original solution.

So start throwing here your crazy ideas, like "voting with your car" or "voting with your cat", instead of going in circles.
It would be great to develop a decentralized social network based on nxt. This will bring personalities to decision making process and they will care about their reputation. Also there will be groups and message boards to work together on world problems. On the other hand, such network itself will make nxt famous and everybody in the world will know what it is.
Let's give free people everything they need: money, power, electronic democracy!
Was it crazy enough?
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January 28, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
Last edit: February 04, 2014, 04:16:47 PM by smartwart
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Update: Collecting Voting Models and Options

More and more it becomes clear there is not THE ONE way for VS.
But there are different poll-categories, e.g "assets polls" is different category as "best button-color polls".

The poll initiator should be able to choose boundary conditions depending on poll-topic.
The poll boundary conditions need to be transparent during run time.
To be more constructive lets try to collect some "Voting Models":

general options:

- min. permitted Account Deposit

- min. permitted Account age (Blocks)

- poll duration (Blocks)

- Voting Fee


Voting Models:

Examples:
+ 1 NXT        ==   1 Vote  { vote = Func(accountBalance) }
+ 1 NXT        ==   X Vote  { x = Func(accountBalance) =  polynom * accountBalance}
+ 1 Account  ==  1 Vote   { vote = Func(accountBalance) =  0.5 * accountBalance}


Jcsarokrin:
+ 1 Account  ==  1 Vote   { Biometric Authenification: http://juliansarokin.com/100-years-the-future-of-government/ }

ChuckOne:  
+  1 Account  ==   X Vote = X(Voting Fee)                           =  log(voteFee)+1
+  1 NXT       ==    X Vote = X(Voting Fee, Account Deposit)   =  log(voteFee/balance)+1

Anon136:
+ 1 Account + 1 solved captcha  ==   1Vote


no claim to completeness!


We need to discuss selection options too:
[true]    [false]    [abstention]
I think [abstention] provides an important information too.
E.g. a high count of [abstention] tells the poll creator "interesting question buddy, but not this way!!!" ...

It makes sense to collect all ideas to keep the overview.
Please extent the "general options" and "voting models" and "selection options" ideas!!!

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January 28, 2014, 11:51:30 AM
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Is it possible for everyone to delete their posts from the last 100 pages which are not crucially important to save the time of Come-from-beyond and other who read them?
don think it is necessary, you can subscribe to this:
http://www.nxtcoins.nl/bitcointalk-summaries-2601-2701-2014/
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January 28, 2014, 12:02:18 PM
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Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

Hey! We always knew you'd be back, right guys/girls?

Right?

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January 28, 2014, 12:02:32 PM
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Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

NXT Rehab Clinic   Grin

I told him to take the blue pil....

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