NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[NxtChg]

Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

Hey! We always knew you'd be back, right guys/girls?

I still think we all are just test subjects in BCNext's doctorate research in behavioral psychology.

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[Chang Hum]

With the shocking news thats floating around cyberspace that BCNext died at xmas while chocking on a turkey bone, and the more recent news cfb is attending a clinic for reasons we can only speculate on does the community feel like the curse of Nxt might be a serious worry?

[SZZT]

I still think we all are just test subjects in BCNext's doctorate research in behavioral psychology.

I also believe that!
Seems to me like NXT& clones are a work on the understanding of the crypto community 

[Secondleo]

With the shocking news thats floating around cyberspace that BCNext died at xmas while chocking on a turkey bone, and the more recent news cfb is attending a clinic for reasons we can only speculate on does the community feel like the curse of Nxt might be a serious worry?

I love the internet

[Passion_ltc]

Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

Good to know. Welcome back.

[Bitventurer]

anyone here that wana buy nxt @ current dgex price?? 157K for sale... can accept a sepa from a trusted user.

need asap !!

[S3MKi]

Hello. Today I was contacted by a TV channel Belarus 1. They are preparing a report about bitcoin and other crypro. They want to receive a comment. CFB u live in my town. I can send them to u. This would be a great promotion for Nxt.
What do u think?
http://clip2net.com/s/6GU7BV

[Coinonaer]

Hi guys/gals. I was in a clinic and now back. Almost 100 pages to read, gonna catch u tomorrow.

Welcome back Sir, I hope you recover quick. 

[NxtChg]

Hello. Today I was contacted by a TV channel Belarus 1. They are preparing a report about bitcoin and other crypro. They want to receive a comment. CFB u live in my town. I can send them to u. This would be a great promotion for Nxt.
What do u think?
http://clip2net.com/s/6GU7BV

What, is this for real, not a joke? Is it like your main state TV channel? That's great news. Unless it's KGB.

Also, we better hide CfB.

[Alias]

Update: Collecting Voting Models and Options

More and more it becomes clear there is not THE ONE way for VS.
But there are different poll-categories, e.g "assets polls" is different category as "best button-color polls".

The poll initiator should be able to choose boundary conditions depending on poll-topic.
The poll boundary conditions need to be transparent during run time.
To be more constructive lets try to collect some "Voting Models":

general options:

- min. permitted Account Deposit

- min. permitted Account age (Blocks)

- poll duration (Blocks)

- Voting Fee


Voting Models:

+ 1 NXT        ==   1 Vote  { vote = Func(accountBalance) }

+ 1 NXT        ==   X Vote  { x = Func(accountBalance) =  polynom * accountBalance}

+ 1 Account  ==  1 Vote   { vote = Func(accountBalance) =  0.5 * accountBalance}

Jcsarokrin:
+ 1 Account  ==  1 Vote   { Biometric Authenification: http://juliansarokin.com/100-years-the-future-of-government/ }

ChuckOne:  
+  1 Account  ==   X Vote = X( Voting Fee ) = log(fee)+1
+  1 NXT       ==    X Vote = X( Voting Fee, Account Deposit)   =  log(fee/balance)+1

Anon136:
+ 1 Account + 1 solved captcha  ==   1Vote


no claim to completeness!


We need to discuss selection options too:
[true]    [false]    [abstention]
I think [abstention] provides an important information too.
E.g. a high count of [abstention] tells the poll creator "interesting question buddy, but not this way!!!" ...

It makes sense to collect all ideas to keep the overview.
Please extent the "general options" and "voting models" and "selection options" ideas!!!

I posted the following a week ago. And I may continue to post it every now and then to help alleviate the stress of thinking about the voting system the wrong way.

There are ways to consider the voting other than the two that have been outlined thus far, namely "1 Account = 1 Vote" and "1 NXT = 1 Vote".

The goal is "1 Human = 1 Vote" right, so here are some options to achieve or approximate that.

- Asset defined voting cards haven't been mentioned. (These can have a minimum fee to greatly reduce spam)
- Decentralised identification verification hasn't been mentioned. (Not necessarily for the entire network. Just particular groups/communities).
- Random sampling of voters hasn't been mentioned.
- Pre-voting hasn;'t been mentioned.
- Captchas havn't been mentioned.
- Random temporal voting hasn't been mentioned (you get 10 minutes to vote but at a random time for example. Logistically this would make managing multiple sock-puppet accounts difficult).
- Proof of Voter Education hasn't been mentioned (you must prove that you are educated on the topic which you are voting on for example).

All of these can use "1 Account = 1 Vote" at the protocol level. So leave it at that forever. Just like 1 NXT as a transaction fee at the protocol level is perfect. Other user-facing transaction fees can be handled by communities and DACs and off-chain payment processors etc. etc.

Please think beyond the protocol level. It will only make you dizzy to restrict your thinking that low. This is the year of emergent complexity within the wider cryptocurrency community - wake up to it and prepare yourself for it!

[Bitventurer]

Hello. Today I was contacted by a TV channel Belarus 1. They are preparing a report about bitcoin and other crypro. They want to receive a comment. CFB u live in my town. I can send them to u. This would be a great promotion for Nxt.
What do u think?
http://clip2net.com/s/6GU7BV

What, is this for real, not a joke? Is it like your main state TV channel? That's great news. Unless it's KGB.

Also, we better hide CfB.

i wouldn't recommend anyone to promote any crypyto on tv in Belarussia ,
the probability that kgb will come to you is 99,99% IMHO!!!

[Passion_ltc]

Why are we suddenly number 4 on CoinMarketCap.com?

Wasn't there another big altcoin between NXT and Bitcoin?

Edit: It was ripple. They removed them, yeha!

[pinarello]

Why are we suddenly number 4 on CoinMarketCap.com?

Wasn't there another big altcoin between NXT and Bitcoin?

Edit: It was ripple. They removed them, yeha!

Why they removed them?

[McDoxy]

Why are we suddenly number 4 on CoinMarketCap.com?

Wasn't there another big altcoin between NXT and Bitcoin?

Edit: It was ripple. They removed them, yeha!

Seems like Ripples got moved down to 77.
Either they took them off or it is only temporary.

[ZeroTheGreat]

just about a mechanism, which allows some experts having more votes than common people.

And what kind of problems do u expect to solve with voting? We've only tech. ones: how the most effective divide funds, how high/low setup fees, which features'll improve Nxt and so on. So we need exactly skilled-based system for good decisions.

Forum discussion is good enough for me.

1 NXT = 1 VOTE is fair.

As like as "value", "fair" generally relative thing. I don't care about it. I suppose we'd look for most effective scheme to solve specific problems, but not for a way how setup fairness in anything. It's impossible.

+1, 1 Nxt = 1 Vote, it's the only way to do it in a POS currency.

To do what? To get opinions based on wealth distribution. Give me some examples, how it'll help to solve, say, current problems, better than just forum poll (or even personal thinking).

[Chang Hum]

Hello. Today I was contacted by a TV channel Belarus 1. They are preparing a report about bitcoin and other crypro. They want to receive a comment. CFB u live in my town. I can send them to u. This would be a great promotion for Nxt.
What do u think?
http://clip2net.com/s/6GU7BV

Sounds like a trick to kidnap and rape you CFB, be very careful!

[rickyjames]

a sneak peak to my idea about a green Nxt video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic_WLMPX888&feature=youtu.be

Excellent!!! Excellent !!! Excellent!!!

Here's some comments as I watch it scene by scene:

Leave the "Emmanuel Abiodun" tag line up longer (at least 10 seconds)  before you cover it with the "$17 million" tag line so the viewer can ID the guy.  Currently you just flash this for three seconds and the viewer wonders what they missed and didn't have time to read.

Don't make the viewer's eye shuffle back and forth over three short lines. Center in the screen a top line that says "Bitcoin network:" and below that a SINGLE LINE centered on the screen that says "7 Transactions Per Second (TPS)" - all words with initial caps, bring the two parens as close together as possible.  Pop the Bitcoin network line in first, the fade the TPS lin in a few moments later.  The blue outline script is perfect - brrr!

I would reedit the overlays and the video in your next sequence a little.   The musical opening is perfect.  Slowly fade in the top line, "He's Mining NXT right now" using the the contraction.   Just as the phone becomes visible (because you've reedited the  timing of the scene a little), fade in a new second line in the middle of the screen, "On his smartphone".  This works because the viewer is mentally asking "How?" from your first question, and you answer that explicitly with video shot so the phone is perfectly positioned below the center line talking about the phone.  After a beat you fade in a third line at the bottom (in the same orange outline text - drop that yellow solid text), a much shorter version of what you say in yellow:  "NXT.  $300 per day for 7 TPS".  Hold that for a beat, then fade in two new top green lines:  "Mine NXT on your" and "smartphone or Raspberry Pi".  (Note the "y" and not "I" on "Raspberry".
 
Then cut these two top lines and fade in your " Iceland/ Bitcoin" lines.  Again, I would shorten the Bitcoin line to a single line of  "Don't waste energy on Bitcoin" and just leave out the word mining at this point.  Shift the emphasis from the mining to the total coin itself.

In general, try to make the lines as short as possible and avoid having to make the viewer cycle their eyes back and forth.

I suggest the following short lines (and only short lines)  for your overlays:

*******************************

Bitcoin network:
7 Transactions Per Second (TPS)

He's mining NXT right now
On his smartphone
NXT: $300 per day for 7 TPS

Mine NXT with your
smartphone or Raspberry Pi
NXT: $300 per day for 7 TPS

Don't freeze in Iceland
Don't waste energy on Bitcoin

NXT:
100,000 TPS
coming soon

mynxt.org

**************************

Short lines stick with the viewer.  Long lines distract them from the video while they figure out the long lines.

This is REALLY GOOD WORK, Salsacz.  Congrats!

If I get to speak in Texas, I will leave this video looping over and over with no sound behind me on the screen during the 20 minute audience question and answer session....

[marek3ball]

NXT - 3D graphics: Update #03

Green logo for green talks!

I'm still not sure about the date on the coin. Is it 2013 official release?

All 3d renderings will be here:
forums.nxtcrypto.org
nextcoin.org

[Come-from-Beyond]

Hello. Today I was contacted by a TV channel Belarus 1. They are preparing a report about bitcoin and other crypro. They want to receive a comment. CFB u live in my town. I can send them to u. This would be a great promotion for Nxt.
What do u think?
http://clip2net.com/s/6GU7BV

I don't give interviews. Never did, never will.

PS: That was not a bus, just appendicitis.

[smartwart]

.....

I posted the following a week ago. And I may continue to post it every now and then to help alleviate the stress of thinking about the voting system the wrong way.


There are ways to consider the voting other than the two that have been outlined thus far, namely "1 Account = 1 Vote" and "1 NXT = 1 Vote".

The goal is "1 Human = 1 Vote" right, so here are some options to achieve or approximate that.

- Asset defined voting cards haven't been mentioned. (These can have a minimum fee to greatly reduce spam)
- Decentralised identification verification hasn't been mentioned. (Not necessarily for the entire network. Just particular groups/communities).
- Random sampling of voters hasn't been mentioned.
- Pre-voting hasn;'t been mentioned.
- Captchas havn't been mentioned.
- Random temporal voting hasn't been mentioned (you get 10 minutes to vote but at a random time for example. Logistically this would make managing multiple sock-puppet accounts difficult).
- Proof of Voter Education hasn't been mentioned (you must prove that you are educated on the topic which you are voting on for example).

All of these can use "1 Account = 1 Vote" at the protocol level. So leave it at that forever. Just like 1 NXT as a transaction fee at the protocol level is perfect. Other user-facing transaction fees can be handled by communities and DACs and off-chain payment processors etc. etc.

Please think beyond the protocol level. It will only make you dizzy to restrict your thinking that low. This is the year of emergent complexity within the wider cryptocurrency community - wake up to it and prepare yourself for it!

- Asset defined voting cards haven't been mentioned. (These can have a minimum fee to greatly reduce spam)
Please can you explain this?

- Decentralised identification verification hasn't been mentioned.
Already mentioned from Jcsarokrin and already listed.

- Random sampling of voters hasn't been mentioned.
Please, explain?

- Captchas havn't been mentioned.
Already mentioned from Anon136 and already listed.

- Random temporal voting hasn't been mentioned ....
Min. time is needed to make the voting tranparent.
Puppet accounts don't need to become created at Poll-Start, they are possibly already existing....

- Proof of Voter Education hasn't been mentioned
Reputation system is already mentioned.
Who decide if someone is educated enough?