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February 07, 2014, 09:26:32 AM
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Is this normal when updating to 0.6.1 (after removing transactions.nxt and blocks.nxt)

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[2014-02-07 10:06:38.388] Loading transactions...
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.388] transactions.nxt not found, starting from scratch
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.430] Loading blocks...
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.430] blocks.nxt not found, starting from scratch
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.438] Scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.450] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.452] NRS 0.6.1 started successfully.
[2014-02-07 10:09:24.970] Checksum passed at block 30000
[2014-02-07 10:12:10.099] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:12:10.099] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:12:20.697] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:12:30.792] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:12:51.160] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:12:51.160] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:13:01.310] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:13:11.592] ...Done

It's in a never-ending loop....

Not to such extent, either you are on a fork and rejecting blocks from the main chain, or most of your peers are on a fork and feeding you the wrong blocks all the time.

I should add logging of the blockId that was popped off, to be able to see which one it is and compare to the block explorer or another node.

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February 07, 2014, 09:28:01 AM
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what happens with https://nextcoin.org/?

I was trying several hours ago and does not work  Sad
Same problem here…I keep reloading, but nothing happens.  Tongue

a chance to move to nxtcrypto forums, perhaps? Wink

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February 07, 2014, 09:28:18 AM
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Maxcoin killed all the coins  Tongue

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.0

Maxcoin might well kill Max Keiser if the amount of butthurt on the above thread is anything to go by.
Go read it, then come back here and appreciate how bloody good NXT is.

Heres my little pep-talk for today:

  Bitcoin is in free-fall and under pressure from government and law, not to mention MtGOX....

  The entire crypto market is collapsing, following Bitcoins lead.

  Maxcoin was going to rule the world, that seems to be postponed for a while.

  2nd generation cryptos.......does anyone see a functioning 2nd gen crypto apart from NXT ?

NXT is in a very good position right now. It isn't tied to BTC in any real way, the basic features work well, and the advanced stuff is coming along, though maybe more slowly than some of us expected. NRS clients are stable, no nasty hacks for a while...

Right now, we should be thinking  "marketing opportunity" , not "OMG, the sky is falling".
I'm going to be throwing some more fiat/BTC into NXT today and I suggest that everyone else follows my lead.

If we can hold, keep calm & carry on, keep NXT on the level while the market is collapsing around it, the potential is huge.
This could be a game-changing moment for crypto, there are a lot of people right now out there in crypto land looking for a safe place to put their investment. It would be very good for NXT if we could make NXT that safe place.

So, can I humbly suggest that we:

Hold. Do not sell, where are u gonna go, into BTC?

Buy. Get rid of that BTC, or just keep the fiat value up by moving into NXT.

Promote. Get the huddled masses running to NXT as shelter from the BTC storm.

Help any newbies u meet.....

Last thought here: If we can get NXT in the green on coinmarketcap, while the rest of the crypto world is deep red, everyone is going to want some, no matter how complicated the client is or whether we can forge on RspPi or not..... so pump, don't dump.

I'm off to throw some BTC at DGEX, come and join in...
 

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We have a voting site up, btw, check my poll results:
http://nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=10667094504543355029

I am all in with NXT, because I don't see any future from Bitcoin forks.

I don't care if NXT fails or wins. When it fails, I still have a hell of a ride with all of you guys.

NXT - NEM - NAS - NFD
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February 07, 2014, 09:30:26 AM
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For success, 2 things are needed the most.

(1) Very good native client (a few of them coming soon)
(2) The native client should be able to sign the transactions and broadcast it to a public node.  That way people don't have to install java and and run complex Nxt server

These two things should be top priority.



Nice reminder.
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February 07, 2014, 09:30:51 AM
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We need audit of Crypto and Curve25519 classes.

Edit: Wait for critical bug disclosure to get it better. The bug is related to Crypto implementation. An audit would let to avoid the bug.
If we get an academic to agree to do the review, we might better give them the latest cleaned-up 0.7.x source. Nothing has changed in the Crypto classes, but overall it will be much easier to navigate the code.

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February 07, 2014, 09:31:32 AM
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For success, 2 things are needed the most.

(1) Very good native client (a few of them coming soon)
(2) The native client should be able to sign the transactions and broadcast it to a public node.  That way people don't have to install java and and run complex Nxt server

These two things should be top priority.



Nice reminder.

We should prepare list of public nodes for that.
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February 07, 2014, 09:31:38 AM
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You know, that would not be such a bad idea right now!

If everyone would just bij 0.1 or 0.2 BTC worth of NXT right now, that would really boost the market.
It would stick out like a flashlight in the darkness.

Problem is: everyone wants to buy low...  Sad

Looking at coinmarketcap.com, NXT is currently 15% down over the last 24 hours, most of that being due to the BTC drop, not from NXT itself.
All we need is a friendly whale (or a lot of minnows) to buy in, and we are in the green. Like mikesbmw said, that will make NXT stand out so hard in a sea of red......

@Hacer88...winning with us would be the best option.

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February 07, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
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Is this normal when updating to 0.6.1 (after removing transactions.nxt and blocks.nxt)

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[2014-02-07 10:06:38.388] Loading transactions...
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.388] transactions.nxt not found, starting from scratch
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.430] Loading blocks...
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.430] blocks.nxt not found, starting from scratch
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.438] Scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.450] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:06:38.452] NRS 0.6.1 started successfully.
[2014-02-07 10:09:24.970] Checksum passed at block 30000
[2014-02-07 10:12:10.099] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:12:10.099] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:12:20.697] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:12:30.792] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:12:51.160] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:12:51.160] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:13:01.310] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:13:11.592] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:13:30.650] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:13:30.650] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:13:40.730] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:13:51.407] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:14:09.210] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:14:09.210] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:14:19.287] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:14:29.780] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:14:51.455] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:14:51.455] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:15:01.591] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:15:12.375] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:15:33.932] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:15:33.932] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:15:43.884] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:15:54.598] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:16:16.248] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:16:16.248] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:16:26.304] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:16:36.913] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:16:58.546] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:16:58.546] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:17:08.680] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:17:20.000] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:17:40.241] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:17:40.241] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:17:50.432] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:18:01.070] ...Done
[2014-02-07 10:18:21.604] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-07 10:18:21.605] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-07 10:18:31.810] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-07 10:18:42.677] ...Done

It's in a never-ending loop....

I had until now no problems with the 0.6.1 client, runs 13 hrs Smiley

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February 07, 2014, 09:32:11 AM
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We need audit of Crypto and Curve25519 classes.

Edit: Wait for critical bug disclosure to get it better. The bug is related to Crypto implementation. An audit would let to avoid the bug.
If we get an academic to agree to do the review, we might better give them the latest cleaned-up 0.7.x source. Nothing has changed in the Crypto classes, but overall it will be much easier to navigate the code.


Good idea.
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February 07, 2014, 09:33:40 AM
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Maxcoin killed all the coins  Tongue

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.0

Maxcoin might well kill Max Keiser if the amount of butthurt on the above thread is anything to go by.
Go read it, then come back here and appreciate how bloody good NXT is.

Can you believe people are actually paying $14 already for MAX?!?!?     Huh

Not saying it can't go higher... but the dump which will soon come will be EPIC!!!    Wink

https://mcxnow.com/exchange/MAX

0.0389 BTC wtf

edit: 0.043

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February 07, 2014, 09:36:49 AM
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with 0.7.0e
Code:
[2014-02-07 12:57:56.176] DEBUG: Database cache size set to 126720 kB
[2014-02-07 12:57:58.927] Database is at level 6
[2014-02-07 12:57:58.928] Updated database is at level 6
[2014-02-07 12:57:59.077] Scanning blockchain...
stick the above for a moment ,then the cmd window disappear.
any suggestion?
TKS.
I need to know what gets printed out before the crash. Start it from the command line, or somehow prevent that cmd window from disappearing too soon. I don't know how, I never use windows.

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February 07, 2014, 09:38:47 AM
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with 0.7.0e
Code:
[2014-02-07 12:57:56.176] DEBUG: Database cache size set to 126720 kB
[2014-02-07 12:57:58.927] Database is at level 6
[2014-02-07 12:57:58.928] Updated database is at level 6
[2014-02-07 12:57:59.077] Scanning blockchain...
stick the above for a moment ,then the cmd window disappear.
any suggestion?
TKS.
I need to know what gets printed out before the crash. Start it from the command line, or somehow prevent that cmd window from disappearing too soon. I don't know how, I never use windows.


put "pause" after command

EDIT java -jar start.jar pause
Something like this
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February 07, 2014, 09:39:12 AM
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Release 0.7.0e - experimental

Please report bugs, including the stack traces.

Where should we report bugs?
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt-public/issues

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[2014-02-06 19:06:29.970] NRS 0.7.0e started successfully.
[2014-02-06 19:10:18.431] Checksum passed at block 30000
[2014-02-06 22:28:06.562] DEBUG: Error sending JSON request
java.io.IOException: Error writing to server
        at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.writeRequests(HttpURLConnection.java:625)
        at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.writeRequests(HttpURLConnection.java:637)
        at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:1320)
        at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(HttpURLConnection.java:468)
        at nxt.peer.Peer.send(Peer.java:584)
This is just a networking error, safe to ignore.

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February 07, 2014, 09:43:52 AM
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What version we yhave now can't follow
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February 07, 2014, 09:44:47 AM
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What version we yhave now can't follow
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4975048#msg4975048
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February 07, 2014, 09:45:23 AM
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Jean-Luc, it takes 17 minutes to scan the blockchain on my odroid-xu:
Code:
[2014-02-06 20:21:40.352] DEBUG: Database cache size set to 253440 kB
[2014-02-06 20:21:44.208] Database is at level 6
[2014-02-06 20:21:44.215] Updated database is at level 6
[2014-02-06 20:21:44.252] Scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-06 20:38:09.239] ...Done
[2014-02-06 20:38:09.246] NRS 0.7.0e started successfully.

On the old version with .nxt file it took only 9 secounds...
Must have a really slow hard drive... Not much I can do about that now, reading 100 MB database from disk can be expected to be slow, compared to when everything is in memory.

Eventually I will get rid of the need for a full scan. Now it is needed so that accounts, aliases, orders, etc, can be loaded and updated based on the information in each block and every transaction, and then kept in memory. When we switch to storing those in database tables too, a scan will be needed only when for some reason the content of those tables gets out of sync with whatever is in the blocks and transactions tables.

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February 07, 2014, 09:45:37 AM
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thank you

so it is not 0.7.0e
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February 07, 2014, 09:45:54 AM
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What version we yhave now can't follow

0.6.1 and an experimental 0.7.0e.
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February 07, 2014, 09:48:25 AM
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NxtMac 0.22 out: http://nxtra.org/mac

Includes 0.6.1 by default and updating to 0.7e works correctly.
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February 07, 2014, 09:49:07 AM
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the client really must to have a built-in function to ignore nodes versions lower than it's own version. my version 0.6.1 still connects to some 4.9 nodes, wtf. I have to manually go removing them and blacklisting them

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