rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;)

[Wexlike]

But there are some physical equations, that work perfectly everywhere - for planets, galaxies, humans and even cats.

Gravitation is one of them.

You can calculate even your own gravitation using this formula:

g=gravitationconstant*mass/radius²

If there would be anything like an antigravitation beam humanity would have notice it longtime ago and research it in microgravitational environment.

But i still would like to see your video regarding the experiment

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[rpietila]

The Internet, even Wikipedia, is full of information on levitation and antigravity. If someone is not educated, he would do better to educate himself first, and contribute later. For example Maglev train is a practical example of levitation. The train has mass, but it does not have weight, and if a scale is put beneath, it does not register gravity from the train or its passengers.

There is no witchcraft going on (at least no attempted witchcraft ) It just seems that the modern man is as hesitant to make scientific experiments as the man of the middle ages, and also as willing to ridicule the ones who do make them.

[TrueCryptonaire]

The Internet, even Wikipedia, is full of information on levitation and antigravity. If someone is not educated, he would do better to educate himself first, and contribute later. For example Maglev train is a practical example of levitation. The train has mass, but it does not have weight, and if a scale is put beneath, it does not register gravity from the train or its passengers.

There is no witchcraft going on (at least no attempted witchcraft ) It just seems that the modern man is as hesitant to make scientific experiments as the man of the middle ages, and also as willing to ridicule the ones who do make them.

The Zionists have invented a car that levitates. The link is a little bit old but still relevant.

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2014/09/07/israel-tests-its-new-flying-car-and-all-i-can-say-is-wow/

[vokain]

The Internet, even Wikipedia, is full of information on levitation and antigravity. If someone is not educated, he would do better to educate himself first, and contribute later. For example Maglev train is a practical example of levitation. The train has mass, but it does not have weight, and if a scale is put beneath, it does not register gravity from the train or its passengers.

A scale beneath the magnets?

[jbah01]

The Internet, even Wikipedia, is full of information on levitation and antigravity. If someone is not educated, he would do better to educate himself first, and contribute later. For example Maglev train is a practical example of levitation. The train has mass, but it does not have weight, and if a scale is put beneath, it does not register gravity from the train or its passengers.

There is no witchcraft going on (at least no attempted witchcraft ) It just seems that the modern man is as hesitant to make scientific experiments as the man of the middle ages, and also as willing to ridicule the ones who do make them.

Gravity is still there with levitation, thus so is the weight of the train (as weight is mass * gravity), you simply cannot measure the weight with the mechanical scale you refer to.
Ever tried measuring the temperature of the sun with a thermometer? There are other ways.

[NeuroticFish]

I tend to accept such theories, no matter how strange they are, as theories.
However, if somebody tells that he found out something new and better, I tend to be careful with what is done and what is proven.

The proven levitation is simple these days, all you need is (natural) magnets and electro-magnets. Maglev has all that. (Powerful air stream is another way, but that's not on this subject.)
What these guy do is, however, not very clear to me.

No special preparations were made except the positioning. There were metal items on the levitators and around the room.

Maybe I've missed something, but those metal items may be the key. You know, with metal and electricity, if the positioning is right, you have just the same tech as maglev, nothing new, nothing spectacular.
Also it's not stated if that kettlering is made of metal or not, maybe it's something special. Maybe it's a magnet or magnetized material.
Human body and nature can also build electricity, but not enough for this.
So it's not clear - at least not to me - what they did and how.

so the object had apparently lost 33% of its weight.

(...)

Also the goal to achieve zero or negative gravity when the circumstances are correct seems achievable.

It may not work like that. You know, I count what remains. And if we repeat the process infinite times, it still remains more than 0.
It's a sequence: 1, 0.66, 0.66*0.66, 0.66*0.66*0.66, .... (sorry, En is not my main language and I am not great on explaining)

Further tests:
To efficiently measure the antigravity, the next experiment will include a scale.

I'd like in the future tests, for example, to also see them done somewhere they can't possibly have electricity / electromagnets.
I'd like them to prove that the kettleball doesn't contain any kind of magnets.


However, it's an interesting subject. I'd like to have something proven for real. It could help on lifting and transportation, maybe even make something cheaper than Maglev.


Now.. antigravity is a more hazardous subject and I don't think that they did that. And that's also harder to prove, I think.

[macsga]

The closest thing to antigravity up until now has been presented sometime in 1996 by mr Eugene Podkletnov based on the Bose-Einstein effect applied over a spinning superconductor. The aforementioned experiment was very popular at the time and even managed it to the space.com as an article which was later removed.

In the 1980s, Ning-Li – a world renowned scientist predicted that if a time-varying magnetic field were applied to superconductor ions trapped in a lattice structure, the ions would absorb enormous amounts of energy. Confined in the lattice, the ions would begin to rapidly spin, causing each to create a minuscule gravitational field.

It wouldn’t actually be an anti-gravity machine’ it would, however, be exerting an attractive or repulsive force on all matter and would therefore be pretty close to an impossible machine.

Dr Ning Li, working in UAH’s Centre for Space Plasma and Aeronomic Research has recently been working at UAH on an ‘artificial’ gravitational field made inside a container made of superconducting material.

More: http://www.scansite.org/scan.php?pid=157

After mr Podkletnov has published his article, there was a huge interest from the Scientific community that pretty much lasted up to 2000s (I was after some results at the time as a researcher). Unfortunately, everything was stopped after the experiment ''allegedly'' never managed to repeat itself apart from the initial experiment. Funnily enough though:

Podkletnov and his team promptly submitted their work to one of the leading physics journals in the world, the Holland Journal of Physics, called Physica C. The paper not only survived the scrutiny of peer review, but was published back in 1992. In 1995, the Max Planck Institute of Physics did a follow up study, and was able to confirm the results. Surprisingly, or perhaps not so surprisingly, both the initial research and the Planck Institute confirmation were virtually ignored by the media in the United States.

More: http://www.enterprisemission.com/anti-grav.htm

Some other time, I may be in the mood to talk to you about some other experiments that had promising effects (ie: Hall effect thruster or ionocrafts) but I'm sure you can do a research for yourselves; and certainly don't reach the glamour of mr Podkletnov's achievement. 

[TPTB_need_war]

http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/33539

Silver is headed below $12 and gold below $1050.

Most likely bottoming below $9 and $850. The lowest possible for gold in the $600s.

We have a bounce here in BTC and PMs, then headed for lower lows, which means < $150 for BTC and probably double-digits 

It will be a blood bath. 

You've been warned. And I have not been wrong since I started following Armstrong some years ago.

[Wekkel]

http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/33539

Silver is headed below $12 and gold below $1050.

Most likely bottoming below $9 and $850. The lowest possible for gold in the $600s.

We have a bounce here in BTC and PMs, then headed for lower lows, which means < $150 for BTC and probably double-digits 

It will be a blood bath. 

You've been warned. And I have not been wrong since I started following Armstrong some years ago.

Great. More to buy.

[rjclarke2000]

http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/33539

Silver is headed below $12 and gold below $1050.

Most likely bottoming below $9 and $850. The lowest possible for gold in the $600s.

We have a bounce here in BTC and PMs, then headed for lower lows, which means < $150 for BTC and probably double-digits 

It will be a blood bath. 

You've been warned. And I have not been wrong since I started following Armstrong some years ago.

Talk about bringing doom and gloom to the party. There was a nice discussion about anti gravity and Mr need war comes in to piss on the fire.

Dear oh dear

[AlexGR]

Silver at 9$? Party time

[TPTB_need_war]

I divested mostly in the $30s. Perhaps I will be buying again in the $9s as I did in 2008.

But this next time around, I fairly certain I will be buying cryptocurrency instead, because I am fairly certain cash and gold will not be accepted any where, not by dealers nor by regular people except in very rare barter situations that make them nearly useless.

TPTB will cancel the cash and issue electronic money.

[jehst]

It should be interesting to see how bitcoin performs during a financial crash. People are optimistic that people will run from the S&P and the USD into bitcoin. I think bitcoin will end up getting smashed along with tech stocks.

[TPTB_need_war]

It should be interesting to see how bitcoin performs during a financial crash. People are optimistic that people will run from the S&P and the USD into bitcoin. I think bitcoin will end up getting smashed along with tech stocks.

Everything except short end of the sovereign bonds will get smashed going into the October global contagion. After that, bonds will collapse and all private assets will rocket up, including gold, BTC, and US stocks.

The lows for gold and BTC in this coming final hooray for sovereign bonds are going to be severe.

[jehst]

It should be interesting to see how bitcoin performs during a financial crash. People are optimistic that people will run from the S&P and the USD into bitcoin. I think bitcoin will end up getting smashed along with tech stocks.

Everything except short end of the sovereign bonds will get smashed going into the October global contagion. After that, bonds will collapse and all private assets will rocket up, including gold, BTC, and US stocks.

The lows for gold and BTC in this coming final hooray for sovereign bonds are going to be severe.

The stock market bubbles will pop but it sounds silly to say that it will definitely be in October and not before and not after.

[explorer]

It should be interesting to see how bitcoin performs during a financial crash. People are optimistic that people will run from the S&P and the USD into bitcoin. I think bitcoin will end up getting smashed along with tech stocks.

Everything except short end of the sovereign bonds will get smashed going into the October global contagion. After that, bonds will collapse and all private assets will rocket up, including gold, BTC, and US stocks.

The lows for gold and BTC in this coming final hooray for sovereign bonds are going to be severe.

The stock market bubbles will pop but it sounds silly to say that it will definitely be in October and not before and not after.

stock market is not going to pop in October.  Dips can come any time, but we are no where near the peak yet.

[conspirosphere.tk]

Silver at 9$? Party time

at 9$ there will be queues to buy monster boxes -with me in.

[ssmc2]

Silver at 9$? Party time

at 9$ there will be queues to buy monster boxes -with me in.

This is what I don't get about the theory BTC will drop down to below triple digits. Look at the volume on the bounce back up in January off 166. There will be so many people ready to buy around that price again that it is practically an impossibility, except in the event of some catastrophic flaw found in the protocol. 

[pleaseexplainagain]

Silver at 9$? Party time

at 9$ there will be queues to buy monster boxes -with me in.

This is what I don't get about the theory BTC will drop down to below triple digits. Look at the volume on the bounce back up in January off 166. There will be so many people ready to buy around that price again that it is practically an impossibility, except in the event of some catastrophic flaw found in the protocol. 

I see variations of this same argument in lots of places on this forum but am not sure I agree.
if you believe in a rising bitcoin price longer term which i do (but am bearish short term) then the recent price level of around $230 is very good yet the buyers were not piling in. ie if you are to hold them for a while then a price like $230 should work out fine - ie the return will be alot more than most other opportunites.

if the price went down to say $60 sure you can get 4 times as many bitcoins for $230 as now but other market forces come into play ie the uncertainty that caused it to go to $60 may be the strongest effect on buying patterns.

I do no think the quick recovery from a one off drop to $166 is a reliable guide to anything in the future.

back when the price was $31 and dropped to $2 there was not a sudden influx of money to pull it way up again beyond about the $5 level. While that is not a better (or worse) guide than the quick pull back from $166 it highlights that we really do not know what will happen to the price when it is at certain points.

[gentlemand]

back when the price was $31 and dropped to $2 there was not a sudden influx of money to pull it way up again beyond about the $5 level.

True indeed but the market was an extremely different place back then. It was almost 100% speculation with a side order of Silk Road and only a few thousand people were involved. You could've been fully justified in believing it could have dwindled to nothing.

This market is still dominated by speculation of course but you can look around in the doldrums and know there's a whole lot more to look to in the future.