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October 20, 2014, 11:33:45 AM
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Newb here.. about to register.. any Bonus + referral available ?  Cool

not unless you find someone to give to chips for registering under their affiliate.

like this guy  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214613.0  was doing not sure if he still is.
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October 20, 2014, 05:11:05 PM
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Also, a ton of new features in a few months Smiley


Micon, I love ya dude, love your style, love the site, but come on...

The time has come for you to promise less and deliver more.  Don't say that Huh or Seal Team 6 or whoever is working on it.  Just roll something out, then maybe we will believe you.

Also, what are your plans to bring new money to the site? 
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October 23, 2014, 12:11:28 AM
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Can anyone give me info on the RNG used at Seals With Clubs? Has it been verified/audited by a 3rd party? If not, why so? Any information is appreciated. Micon I know you read through this thread... care to step in? Smiley

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October 23, 2014, 12:15:13 AM
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Can anyone give me info on the RNG used at Seals With Clubs? Has it been verified/audited by a 3rd party? If not, why so? Any information is appreciated. Micon I know you read through this thread... care to step in? Smiley

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Being able to verify that everything is probably fair would be the only way I'd consistently play at an online poker site for Bitcoin. Idk if it's somethkng with the software they use but it should be fairly easy considering every other successful Btc gambling site can prove their games are provably fair.
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October 23, 2014, 12:15:34 AM
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Hey there, it's almost time for the donk-down and I actually have time to play and I actually remembered about it before the start.  Watch out sealsdudes tspacepilot is gonna donk you out.

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October 23, 2014, 01:10:56 AM
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Can anyone give me info on the RNG used at Seals With Clubs? Has it been verified/audited by a 3rd party? If not, why so? Any information is appreciated. Micon I know you read through this thread... care to step in? Smiley

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Being able to verify that everything is probably fair would be the only way I'd consistently play at an online poker site for Bitcoin. Idk if it's somethkng with the software they use but it should be fairly easy considering every other successful Btc gambling site can prove their games are provably fair.

This has been brought up several times and although I can't give you details, the bottom line is that you can't use the same provably fair techniques for poker that are used for games against the house. 

As for the RNG, it comes with the Mavens software which is the basis for Seals and has been tested.  It's easy to find the info.

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October 23, 2014, 01:16:47 AM
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Can anyone give me info on the RNG used at Seals With Clubs? Has it been verified/audited by a 3rd party? If not, why so? Any information is appreciated. Micon I know you read through this thread... care to step in? Smiley

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Being able to verify that everything is probably fair would be the only way I'd consistently play at an online poker site for Bitcoin. Idk if it's somethkng with the software they use but it should be fairly easy considering every other successful Btc gambling site can prove their games are provably fair.

This has been brought up several times and although I can't give you details, the bottom line is that you can't use the same provably fair techniques for poker that are used for games against the house. 

As for the RNG, it comes with the Mavens software which is the basis for Seals and has been tested.  It's easy to find the info.

The details would make it actually interesting, though.  At the intuitive level, it's not really clear to me why the technique wouldn't work. You pregenerate key pairs and show a public one before each hand (and show the private one after the hand, then the user could verify that the pub/priv keys do combine to generate the hash which is the basis of the hand).  That's not much detail either, but it's enough for someone to pick up on this and show how I'm wrong.

Oh, btw, sadness.  There is no donkdown that I can find.  Sadnesss.

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October 23, 2014, 02:16:20 AM
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I found a semi-provably fair method for poker. But it's not easy to implement, and would require a huge renovation of the code.

You see, poker players like to fold or muck their cards. Also you are not meant to see the rest of the deck. But you have to some how prove that the cards you don't see, are actually the cards in the fairly shuffled deck.

You can, of course, easily verify the hole cards that you are holding, and the cards on the table (the flop, river and turn, if shown.)

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October 23, 2014, 02:33:25 AM
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I found a semi-provably fair method for poker. But it's not easy to implement, and would require a huge renovation of the code.

You see, poker players like to fold or muck their cards. Also you are not meant to see the rest of the deck. But you have to some how prove that the cards you don't see, are actually the cards in the fairly shuffled deck.

You can, of course, easily verify the hole cards that you are holding, and the cards on the table (the flop, river and turn, if shown.)

Dabs, really good point about folding/mucking.  I wouldn't want a method for proving fairness to reveal my cards after everyone had folded to me.  Or to reveal the cards I had folded.  How does your method avoid this issue?

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October 23, 2014, 02:48:38 AM
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I found a semi-provably fair method for poker. But it's not easy to implement, and would require a huge renovation of the code.

You see, poker players like to fold or muck their cards. Also you are not meant to see the rest of the deck. But you have to some how prove that the cards you don't see, are actually the cards in the fairly shuffled deck.

You can, of course, easily verify the hole cards that you are holding, and the cards on the table (the flop, river and turn, if shown.)

Dabs, really good point about folding/mucking.  I wouldn't want a method for proving fairness to reveal my cards after everyone had folded to me.  Or to reveal the cards I had folded.  How does your method avoid this issue?

It doesn't tell other players their cards, only yours. Each card has a corresponding hash, and the deck has a hash of it's shuffle. If any poker site does this, they would have to completely rework and revamp their clients and the servers. Or you start from scratch.

I wanted to do this, but it is an ambitious project, and I would need capital investors, or the like. I posted about it a year ago, no one in this forum is interested and has the money. So it will have to wait.

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October 23, 2014, 05:53:22 AM
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Love this discussion.

During some late nights, ST6 & I have dreamed about 2.0 bitcoin poker platforms.  IMO blockchain-like HH database, private keys for your hole cards (show just 1 if you want) and the cloud-consensus bitcoin-like method to deal a fair deck to 2 mutually distrusting players.

it's the far future, but we'll eventually build it if given enough time.

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October 23, 2014, 06:02:31 AM
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What is the minimum deposit and cashout here?
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October 23, 2014, 07:31:50 AM
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it's the far future, but we'll eventually build it if given enough time.

Yeah, that's quite a dream !

Maybe you should look into SuperNet platfrom and NeoDice in developpement. They have similar ideas but on a dice level game. Though, I guess poker is just coding over random numbers !
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October 23, 2014, 07:36:27 AM
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Love this discussion.

During some late nights, ST6 & I have dreamed about 2.0 bitcoin poker platforms.  IMO blockchain-like HH database, private keys for your hole cards (show just 1 if you want) and the cloud-consensus bitcoin-like method to deal a fair deck to 2 mutually distrusting players.

it's the far future, but we'll eventually build it if given enough time.

@Micon, that's my dream. Don't forget to include me in your ST6 or whatever. I did go through the equivalent of BUDS where I am. (The Philippine Naval Special Operations Group is considered the counter part of the United States Navy Seals; they have exchanged trident pins more than once.)

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October 23, 2014, 07:41:33 AM
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What is the minimum deposit and cashout here?
You can contact them or visit their website and see what is it.
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October 23, 2014, 08:51:08 AM
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What is the minimum deposit and cashout here?

 min .01 in and  .02 out
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October 23, 2014, 12:54:30 PM
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What is the minimum deposit and cashout here?

 min .01 in and  .02 out

I thought the min deposit was 0.001? (1 chip)
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October 23, 2014, 03:45:06 PM
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What is the minimum deposit and cashout here?

 min .01 in and  .02 out

I thought the min deposit was 0.001? (1 chip)


you can actually deposit any amount, but you don't get chips until the balance exceeds 0.001. 

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October 23, 2014, 05:16:52 PM
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Is there any deposit fee? I'm convinced that once I sent over 6 chips but only received 5, or something similar. Mining fees doesn't account for it.
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October 23, 2014, 05:49:20 PM
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Is there any deposit fee? I'm convinced that once I sent over 6 chips but only received 5, or something similar. Mining fees doesn't account for it.

you should be able to see the tx on the blockchain to figure out what happened.

https://blockchain.info/address/<your deposit address>

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