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[tspacepilot]

Yes, DoD was super-fun.  I have to admit it's basically the only place I play poker online (I'm obviously not terribly serious about it, however, I love jumping into a ring-game on my long bus rides).  I hope seals doesn't fall too far behind.  I still usually find plenty of action.

[Dogedigital]

Is there anyway you can implement a monthly tournament, say like a $100 buy-in and have it be deep stack so like 15-30K chips? Since I play casino tournaments I'm not so inclined to play the Big BTC every weekend, but if there was a tournament like this I would definitely be interested. If the player pool was big enough I'm sure it would be successful.

Don't think many will register for it...even the Big BTC currently at about $75 does not get many entries...this site seems to be stuck in neutral for a year in about the same number of players even after the December promotions...don't know if it is the software, possible old Maven software security exploits concerns, or Micon's half naked videos but the site does not seem to be growing as fast as it should,..even with the great fast payouts, you would think that the site would grow faster then it has been doing.

 

I think it would work if they give enough time before hand to promote it and allow people to buy bitcoin and stuff.

The DoD XL tournaments were a success and drew more players than normal.

Even if it's just a one time thing, a large special tournament with a big guarantee and a month to promote it should bring in new players. 

Especially with WPN now taking bitcoin deposits... more poker players are just now learning about bitcoin and figuring out how to buy it.  Seals should capitalize on that run a big tournament that gets attention and draws them in.

Yep the promotion was great....the problem is that traffic is back to pre-promotion levels.  I think that WPN now taking bitcoin deposits and soon withdrawals is actually bad for SwC....I see some SwC regs posting in the WPN thread at 2 + 2 that they  will deposit as soon as the bitcoin withdrawal option is available. It may be soon that SwC is no longer the bitcoin leader.

I'm pretty sure that when you deposit at WPN, your bitcoin gets converted to a fiat amount and when you cashout the fiat gets converted back to a bitcoin amount.

You could theoretically deposit 5BTC, win $100, cashout and have less bitcoin than you did before.

At least with seals, if you win, you know you're gaining bitcoin.

[wwwin]

Is there anyway you can implement a monthly tournament, say like a $100 buy-in and have it be deep stack so like 15-30K chips? Since I play casino tournaments I'm not so inclined to play the Big BTC every weekend, but if there was a tournament like this I would definitely be interested. If the player pool was big enough I'm sure it would be successful.

Don't think many will register for it...even the Big BTC currently at about $75 does not get many entries...this site seems to be stuck in neutral for a year in about the same number of players even after the December promotions...don't know if it is the software, possible old Maven software security exploits concerns, or Micon's half naked videos but the site does not seem to be growing as fast as it should,..even with the great fast payouts, you would think that the site would grow faster then it has been doing.

 

I think it would work if they give enough time before hand to promote it and allow people to buy bitcoin and stuff.

The DoD XL tournaments were a success and drew more players than normal.

Even if it's just a one time thing, a large special tournament with a big guarantee and a month to promote it should bring in new players.  

Especially with WPN now taking bitcoin deposits... more poker players are just now learning about bitcoin and figuring out how to buy it.  Seals should capitalize on that run a big tournament that gets attention and draws them in.

Yep the promotion was great....the problem is that traffic is back to pre-promotion levels.  I think that WPN now taking bitcoin deposits and soon withdrawals is actually bad for SwC....I see some SwC regs posting in the WPN thread at 2 + 2 that they  will deposit as soon as the bitcoin withdrawal option is available. It may be soon that SwC is no longer the bitcoin leader.

I'm pretty sure that when you deposit at WPN, your bitcoin gets converted to a fiat amount and when you cashout the fiat gets converted back to a bitcoin amount.

You could theoretically deposit 5BTC, win $100, cashout and have less bitcoin than you did before.

At least with seals, if you win, you know you're gaining bitcoin.

There are 2 ways to look at it depending  on your preferences.  If you just want bitcoins and assume the risk or benefit of btc going up or down then SwC is better for you..  If you don't want to speculate on the price of btc, then WPN would be much better. You win $100 dollats and if you want to wihtdraw all they will send you the same  $$ amount you deposited in bitcoins plus
 the winnings of $100 worth of bitcoins that you can sell roughly at the same price that they  converted and sent it you. Those who believe that bicoin is too speculative wouls prefer that.  Your example above goes both ways. You could deposit in SwC  1 btc. Win 1000 chips and if the price of btc goes down one half you have lost in $$ value all your winnings.

[WearsMyLiberty]

I think it would work if they give enough time before hand to promote it and allow people to buy bitcoin and stuff.

The DoD XL tournaments were a success and drew more players than normal.

Even if it's just a one time thing, a large special tournament with a big guarantee and a month to promote it should bring in new players. 

Especially with WPN now taking bitcoin deposits... more poker players are just now learning about bitcoin and figuring out how to buy it.  Seals should capitalize on that run a big tournament that gets attention and draws them in.

Yep the promotion was great....the problem is that traffic is back to pre-promotion levels.  I think that WPN now taking bitcoin deposits and soon withdrawals is actually bad for SwC....I see some SwC regs posting in the WPN thread at 2 + 2 that they  will deposit as soon as the bitcoin withdrawal option is available. It may be soon that SwC is no longer the bitcoin leader.

I understand what you're sayin, but I think more poker players learning about bitcoin is a good thing for Seals.

Most poker players already play on multiple sites.  Current Seals players might start playing on WPN... but that doesn't mean they will quit playing on Seals.  You don't have to trade one for the other.

But, now there will be more WPN players who will just now learn about and set up bitcoin accounts.  Once they figure out how easy bitcoin is, they can be drawn in to adding Seals to sites they play on.

[wwwin]

I think it would work if they give enough time before hand to promote it and allow people to buy bitcoin and stuff.

The DoD XL tournaments were a success and drew more players than normal.

Even if it's just a one time thing, a large special tournament with a big guarantee and a month to promote it should bring in new players.  

Especially with WPN now taking bitcoin deposits... more poker players are just now learning about bitcoin and figuring out how to buy it.  Seals should capitalize on that run a big tournament that gets attention and draws them in.

Yep the promotion was great....the problem is that traffic is back to pre-promotion levels.  I think that WPN now taking bitcoin deposits and soon withdrawals is actually bad for SwC....I see some SwC regs posting in the WPN thread at 2 + 2 that they  will deposit as soon as the bitcoin withdrawal option is available. It may be soon that SwC is no longer the bitcoin leader.

I understand what you're sayin, but I think more poker players learning about bitcoin is a good thing for Seals.

Most poker players already play on multiple sites.  Current Seals players might start playing on WPN... but that doesn't mean they will quit playing on Seals.  You don't have to trade one for the other.

But, now there will be more WPN players who will just now learn about and set up bitcoin accounts.  Once they figure out how easy bitcoin is, they can be drawn in to adding Seals to sites they play on.

Yes it will work both ways....the question is what will be the net result of current SwC  playing some time at WPN vs players gained by some WPN players playing at SWC. We just have to wait and see. At any rate competition between sites will be good for the players as the sites that have the better playing conditions will be the wiinner in terms of adding players. So both SwC  and WPN will have to improve and get all their ducks in a row or risk loosing players.
Lately I have not had disconnects at SwC which is a plus but player pool is small and less large guaranteed tournys.  At BCP that I also use my gripe has been  intermittent lags while you play that occasionally make you loose hands and withdrawal is a pain in the ass or not cheap if you use their debit card. So if they can fix that by using bitcoin it may swing the pendulum in their favor due to larger player pool and bigger tournaments.

[donk4u]

bitcoin is going to crash to the bottom only 190 more to go gg guys

[wwwin]

bitcoin is going to crash to the bottom only 190 more to go gg guys

CEX.io   stopped mining...
http://www.coindesk.com/cex-io-halts-cloud-mining-service-due-low-bitcoin-price/

so either the difficulty goes down or the price goes up before it will be profitable for them to mine, according to them. Wonder who would follow suit, if any.

[NiceSoft12]

Great job with DoD, Seals did a great job with that promotion!

Agreed, always good to give something back.

[NiceSoft12]

bitcoin is going to crash to the bottom only 190 more to go gg guys

What u mean gg, it jsut makes the games better because more people can afford to play

[nioc]

bitcoin is going to crash to the bottom only 190 more to go gg guys

What u mean gg, it jsut makes the games better because more people can afford to play

Yeah now we have 2/5 cent > 4/5 cent games instead of those high stake 2/3 cent > 4/3 cent games a month ago.

BTC will be just fine.

[wwwin]

bitcoin is going to crash to the bottom only 190 more to go gg guys

What u mean gg, it jsut makes the games better because more people can afford to play

Yeah now we have 2/5 cent > 4/5 cent games instead of those high stake 2/3 cent > 4/3 cent games a month ago.

BTC will be just fine.

2/5 cent > 4/5...now they will become a  donkathon like the freerolls because the stakes are so low.

[tspacepilot]

It's impossible for btc to go to absolute zero (at the moment) because there are plenty of folks like me who only have a few btc and aren't really interested in selling.  That is, I got my btc several years ago for next to nothing so i have nothing in the game to lose by simply holding.  That being said, btc may get a whole lot cheaper, and if that happens, then those no-rake micro games might as well be renamed no-rake nano or pico games.

[WearsMyLiberty]

I understand what you're sayin, but I think more poker players learning about bitcoin is a good thing for Seals.

Most poker players already play on multiple sites.  Current Seals players might start playing on WPN... but that doesn't mean they will quit playing on Seals.  You don't have to trade one for the other.

But, now there will be more WPN players who will just now learn about and set up bitcoin accounts.  Once they figure out how easy bitcoin is, they can be drawn in to adding Seals to sites they play on.

Yes it will work both ways....the question is what will be the net result of current SwC  playing some time at WPN vs players gained by some WPN players playing at SWC. We just have to wait and see. At any rate competition between sites will be good for the players as the sites that have the better playing conditions will be the wiinner in terms of adding players. So both SwC  and WPN will have to improve and get all their ducks in a row or risk loosing players.
Lately I have not had disconnects at SwC which is a plus but player pool is small and less large guaranteed tournys.  At BCP that I also use my gripe has been  intermittent lags while you play that occasionally make you loose hands and withdrawal is a pain in the ass or not cheap if you use their debit card. So if they can fix that by using bitcoin it may swing the pendulum in their favor due to larger player pool and bigger tournaments.

You're right, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Agree that competition is good... but I think WPN and Seals are different enough that they can both compliment eachother.

If you want to play longer, slower tournaments with 3hr late reg/re-entry that take 7+ hours... then play WPN.

If you like smaller tournaments with lower rake that take less time... then play Seals.

Or, like a lot of people... do both.  Both sites have a limited selection of tournaments so you can easily play a schedule on both.

Not to mention that any Seals players that would leave for WPN tournaments already had the option of playing them for bitcoin.  So I don't see them suddenly leaving now.

WPN players that use bitcoin would have an incentive to start playing on Seals though because the rake is lower.

[wwwin]

I understand what you're sayin, but I think more poker players learning about bitcoin is a good thing for Seals.

Most poker players already play on multiple sites.  Current Seals players might start playing on WPN... but that doesn't mean they will quit playing on Seals.  You don't have to trade one for the other.

But, now there will be more WPN players who will just now learn about and set up bitcoin accounts.  Once they figure out how easy bitcoin is, they can be drawn in to adding Seals to sites they play on.

Yes it will work both ways....the question is what will be the net result of current SwC  playing some time at WPN vs players gained by some WPN players playing at SWC. We just have to wait and see. At any rate competition between sites will be good for the players as the sites that have the better playing conditions will be the wiinner in terms of adding players. So both SwC  and WPN will have to improve and get all their ducks in a row or risk loosing players.
Lately I have not had disconnects at SwC which is a plus but player pool is small and less large guaranteed tournys.  At BCP that I also use my gripe has been  intermittent lags while you play that occasionally make you loose hands and withdrawal is a pain in the ass or not cheap if you use their debit card. So if they can fix that by using bitcoin it may swing the pendulum in their favor due to larger player pool and bigger tournaments.

You're right, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Agree that competition is good... but I think WPN and Seals are different enough that they can both compliment eachother.

If you want to play longer, slower tournaments with 3hr late reg/re-entry that take 7+ hours... then play WPN.

If you like smaller tournaments with lower rake that take less time... then play Seals.

Or, like a lot of people... do both.  Both sites have a limited selection of tournaments so you can easily play a schedule on both.

Not to mention that any Seals players that would leave for WPN tournaments already had the option of playing them for bitcoin.  So I don't see them suddenly leaving now.

WPN players that use bitcoin would have an incentive to start playing on Seals though because the rake is lower.

Hopefully that would the case and seals player liquidity does not go down.  I know WPN has issues so we will see.

[wwwin]

What I will like to know is if this new seals software is something completey new or just adding Pinenapple and OFC to the software. Those  are small niches and might dilute the current player base.  If seals wants to really compete they need software that has player notes, hand replayer not this Briggs on HGH that they now have. So what is the mystery and why does Micon  not say more about it?

[tspacepilot]

Yah, shortest blogpost ever from their promotions feed.  "Seals is gonna level up".  Mysterious.

[Goldbach]

What I will like to know is if this new seals software is something completey new or just adding Pinenapple and OFC to the software. Those  are small niches and might dilute the current player base.  If seals wants to really compete they need software that has player notes, hand replayer not this Briggs on HGH that they now have. So what is the mystery and why does Micon  not say more about it?

I think OFC will attract players, but I agree player notes especially are much needed.

[arvindr]

Does anyone use the HUD that is available out there for free for Seals ?
Might be good to have a better one for the new version.

[boumalo]

SealsWithClubs is great but the cashouts are not really fast : 12H is not great when you need the money. If it could be instant cashouts for loyal players and amount <1B it would be great.

[wwwin]

SealsWithClubs is great but the cashouts are not really fast : 12H is not great when you need the money. If it could be instant cashouts for loyal players and amount <1B it would be great.

LOL