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December 01, 2014, 01:02:34 AM
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There is one bot on seals who is competent and according to other palyers a winning mtt player.

Pretty sure there's actually someone playing the hands that aab plays, but there's pretty obviously some kind of automation going on at least for starting hands.

The fact that there is obvious automation going on should be enough to boot him off as breaking tos as I don't believe seals allows bot play. It goes beyond the spirit of the game to come back in on the last second of ones blind every action and late in games. Older players are aware of his actions but I see him trapping lots of players basically freerolling them when they attempt to steal his blinds thinking he is sitting out. Maybe its Doug Lee.

Playing autobet in a poker game is very insulting to the game.

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December 01, 2014, 01:08:38 AM
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Accounts may be frozen or terminated at any time by Seals with Clubs, with or without notice or explanation. Similarly, there is no guarantee express or implied that funds deposited at Seals with Clubs or winnings accumulated shall be paid out to users.

The system will be purged periodically, and accounts with over 3 months of inactivity will be removed, and all funds in those accounts will be forfeit.

https://sealswithclubs.org/terms.html

Huh

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The Terms and Conditions makes it sound like a huge scam, please let us know why it's not.

It is our full intention to pay back any legitimate deposits or winnings. It is not our intention to pay the amount listed in your account if something is recorded in error either accidentally or by malice. We will attempt to notify when appropriate, but there is no guarantee on that either.

The nature of cash business on the internet is such that we often may not want to report to a scammer or cheater how we know that they stole. This could make their next attempts harder to detect.

Will adding the ability to record an address to pay the funds from idle accounts fix that issue? We are not going to keep unused accounts in our system forever.

I am not just an employee with this site. It has my full backing. I will always try to do what is right and best for the players and site.

Feel free to ask more questions.
This actually does make sense.
Long time ago an american poetry,  James Whitcomb Riley, was maybe the first who wrotes down this brief statement:

"when I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck."

If you can't beat a HU bot you should probably find another game.

There is one bot on seals who is competent and according to other palyers a winning mtt player. Having played aab for 2 years I fail to see how anyone can say his is not a bot. NO human being I have ever seen consistently sits out hands the whole tournament and auto comes back when has a hand. When it is bubble time he comes back. Plus the constant shoves early in the tournaments. He has been doing this nonsense for 2 years and the sitout routine on his blinds has gotten a lot of unsuspecting players.  It is so painfully obvious. THe fact that seals has not kicked him off for being a bot is as annoying as having to play him. He sits out all his blinds and comes back in on big blind every game. 
Either a bot a fucking patient guy.

If you're a guy, Mr. So-Called-Bot, I tip my hat off to you for your patience.

I like this one.  Indeed, if mr. bot (aab) turns out to be some sort of a very meditative bitcoin poker player, that would truly be hillarious.

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December 01, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
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Accounts may be frozen or terminated at any time by Seals with Clubs, with or without notice or explanation. Similarly, there is no guarantee express or implied that funds deposited at Seals with Clubs or winnings accumulated shall be paid out to users.

The system will be purged periodically, and accounts with over 3 months of inactivity will be removed, and all funds in those accounts will be forfeit.

https://sealswithclubs.org/terms.html

Huh

To OP:

The Terms and Conditions makes it sound like a huge scam, please let us know why it's not.

It is our full intention to pay back any legitimate deposits or winnings. It is not our intention to pay the amount listed in your account if something is recorded in error either accidentally or by malice. We will attempt to notify when appropriate, but there is no guarantee on that either.

The nature of cash business on the internet is such that we often may not want to report to a scammer or cheater how we know that they stole. This could make their next attempts harder to detect.

Will adding the ability to record an address to pay the funds from idle accounts fix that issue? We are not going to keep unused accounts in our system forever.

I am not just an employee with this site. It has my full backing. I will always try to do what is right and best for the players and site.

Feel free to ask more questions.
This actually does make sense.
Long time ago an american poetry,  James Whitcomb Riley, was maybe the first who wrotes down this brief statement:

"when I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck."

If you can't beat a HU bot you should probably find another game.

There is one bot on seals who is competent and according to other palyers a winning mtt player. Having played aab for 2 years I fail to see how anyone can say his is not a bot. NO human being I have ever seen consistently sits out hands the whole tournament and auto comes back when has a hand. When it is bubble time he comes back. Plus the constant shoves early in the tournaments. He has been doing this nonsense for 2 years and the sitout routine on his blinds has gotten a lot of unsuspecting players.  It is so painfully obvious. THe fact that seals has not kicked him off for being a bot is as annoying as having to play him. He sits out all his blinds and comes back in on big blind every game. 
Either a bot a fucking patient guy.

If you're a guy, Mr. So-Called-Bot, I tip my hat off to you for your patience.

I like this one.  Indeed, if mr. bot (aab) turns out to be some sort of a very meditative bitcoin poker player, that would truly be hillarious.

lmfao indeed. no way he is real  imho

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December 01, 2014, 01:10:22 PM
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I care more about the bots that play heads up. I just play for fun right now unless it's a tournament and I do 5-20 chip buy ins HU and it sucks playing against a bot even if you're winning. I guess if it was for larger amounts it would be more interesting but it's like any competition, most people want to compete against others not just a machine that does the same thing.
I have defintiely seen HU bots on seals. They are everywhere .I hope seals tightens up against these people.

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December 01, 2014, 02:59:56 PM
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I care more about the bots that play heads up. I just play for fun right now unless it's a tournament and I do 5-20 chip buy ins HU and it sucks playing against a bot even if you're winning. I guess if it was for larger amounts it would be more interesting but it's like any competition, most people want to compete against others not just a machine that does the same thing.
I have defintiely seen HU bots on seals. They are everywhere .I hope seals tightens up against these people.

4ever, what do you think about the comments above that any human player should be able to defeat a HU bot?

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December 01, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
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I care more about the bots that play heads up. I just play for fun right now unless it's a tournament and I do 5-20 chip buy ins HU and it sucks playing against a bot even if you're winning. I guess if it was for larger amounts it would be more interesting but it's like any competition, most people want to compete against others not just a machine that does the same thing.
I have defintiely seen HU bots on seals. They are everywhere .I hope seals tightens up against these people.

4ever, what do you think about the comments above that any human player should be able to defeat a HU bot?
Well thats not always true. If everyone was able to defeat the HU bots, then they wouldn't be created in the first place.

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December 01, 2014, 10:32:03 PM
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Maybe its Doug Lee.

I have defintiely seen HU bots on seals. They are everywhere .I hope seals tightens up against these people.

1)  apologies for not addressing this sooner.
2)  apologies in general for not playing must SwC recently: ST6 has needed my guidance for new software creation, and there are many parts to inspect.  We are closer than you think.
3) please list me all the usernames you feel are bots.  I remember playing a username that was bot-like during the 25 chip sunday HU-ament a few weeks ago.  I sent my analysis to ST6.



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December 01, 2014, 10:33:37 PM
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Maybe its Doug Lee.

I have defintiely seen HU bots on seals. They are everywhere .I hope seals tightens up against these people.

1)  apologies for not addressing this sooner.
2)  apologies in general for not playing must SwC recently: ST6 has needed my guidance for new software creation, and there are many parts to inspect.  We are closer than you think.
3) please list me all the usernames you feel are bots.  I remember playing a username that was bot-like during the 25 chip sunday HU-ament a few weeks ago.  I sent my analysis to ST6.




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December 01, 2014, 11:07:46 PM
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Maybe its Doug Lee.

I have defintiely seen HU bots on seals. They are everywhere .I hope seals tightens up against these people.

1)  apologies for not addressing this sooner.
2)  apologies in general for not playing must SwC recently: ST6 has needed my guidance for new software creation, and there are many parts to inspect.  We are closer than you think.
3) please list me all the usernames you feel are bots.  I remember playing a username that was bot-like during the 25 chip sunday HU-ament a few weeks ago.  I sent my analysis to ST6.




Thanks a lot for addressing it. Even, I think Eprouve is a bot
Please check into pan_cake as well.

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December 01, 2014, 11:47:02 PM
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Maybe its Doug Lee.

I have defintiely seen HU bots on seals. They are everywhere .I hope seals tightens up against these people.

1)  apologies for not addressing this sooner.
2)  apologies in general for not playing must SwC recently: ST6 has needed my guidance for new software creation, and there are many parts to inspect.  We are closer than you think.
3) please list me all the usernames you feel are bots.  I remember playing a username that was bot-like during the 25 chip sunday HU-ament a few weeks ago.  I sent my analysis to ST6.




Thanks a lot for addressing it. Even, I think Eprouve is a bot
Please check into pan_cake as well.


Yeah, pan_cake is most likely a bot.
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December 02, 2014, 12:04:15 AM
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Maybe its Doug Lee.

I have defintiely seen HU bots on seals. They are everywhere .I hope seals tightens up against these people.

1)  apologies for not addressing this sooner.
2)  apologies in general for not playing must SwC recently: ST6 has needed my guidance for new software creation, and there are many parts to inspect.  We are closer than you think.
3) please list me all the usernames you feel are bots.  I remember playing a username that was bot-like during the 25 chip sunday HU-ament a few weeks ago.  I sent my analysis to ST6.




def aab for the reasons I stated, though I think he has been vetted by seals admin I am really incredulous as to how. Even if he uses automation 70 percent of the time should be enough to boot him No one I have ever played online sitsout all his blinds and other hands and comes back in and sits out until he gets a good hand whereupon he comes back in.
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December 02, 2014, 08:29:52 AM
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when bot all in all they always wins how's this possible ? i think seals should ban agrov for sure

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December 02, 2014, 09:42:01 AM
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when bot all in all they always wins how's this possible ? i think seals should ban agrov for sure
Yeah even I think agrov is a bot. There is another HU bot who sits on cash  tables.

On the sitngo side Eprouve,pancake.
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December 02, 2014, 09:57:47 AM
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when bot all in all they always wins how's this possible ? i think seals should ban agrov for sure

They don't always win, it just seems that way due to a small set of data. But they do play "smart" because they aren't subjected to emotions like we are, so it doesn't impact their play. With that said, I'm a bit iffy on how I feel about bots. Once you get down that someone is using one, they are pretty easy to manipulate.

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December 02, 2014, 10:11:17 AM
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when bot all in all they always wins how's this possible ? i think seals should ban agrov for sure

They don't always win, it just seems that way due to a small set of data. But they do play "smart" because they aren't subjected to emotions like we are, so it doesn't impact their play. With that said, I'm a bit iffy on how I feel about bots. Once you get down that someone is using one, they are pretty easy to manipulate.

If you consider the tournament side, then a bot is more successful than at the cash game table.

Like don4u pointed it out, bots sit out on all bad hands, and sit in when they are on BB.

This does give them some sort of advantage and gets them to the later stages of the tourney.

If small number of people are playing, then they can easily reach ITM.
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December 02, 2014, 05:54:51 PM
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I would like to play some tournaments but I cant figure out what is the localtime of the site.

Can someone provide a GMT ?
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December 02, 2014, 06:00:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure the site's local time is Pacific (ie, Vegas time).  What time you see in your client depends on the client.  When I use the android client I see local times.

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December 02, 2014, 06:01:41 PM
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I see... it seems that localtime refers to the client localtime.
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December 03, 2014, 02:01:01 AM
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Really appreciate Seals Support. Asked for expedited cashout got my money faster the the 10 to 12 hours. Did lose it all on phil dallas game, dallas bumtards didn't even show up for the game at home with a lot at stake. Still appreciate the seals support though.
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December 05, 2014, 09:10:00 AM
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Hi !
About the rake : is it contributed (like on pokerstars) or all the player in the table get the same number of krill in a raked hand ?
and the krill level is monthly or cumulative ? I mean if I reach "wave 3" in the current month, do i lose this vip level if i don't rake 2500 krill the next month ?
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