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January 28, 2016, 05:36:52 AM |
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Reading posts about this proposal with language like 'wanting to see coins burned' prompted me to write a script to see the state of budget disbursement. Even if passed, there's no money left in the next cycle to pay. It's a first-draft, so probably has horrible miscalculations, but I'll update the github from time to time as I discover them. https://github.com/moocowmoo/dash-budget_statehere's the current output for the next cycle: rows are ordered in payment priority estimated minimum budget: 7714.57142857
remaining approval name payment
7709.57142857 99.8% 2mb-blocksize 5.00
6533.57142857 99.4% core-team 1176.00
4433.57142857 98.5% dash-org 2100.00
3823.31142857 97.2% lamassu-integration 610.26
3233.31142857 96.0% 590-soda-machine 590.00
1077.31142857 92.0% public-awareness 2156.00
927.31142857 89.4% Sponsor-DailyDecrypt 150.00
787.31142857 88.8% ds-liquidity 140.00
-312.68857143 68.3% transform-pr 1100.00 notice how the last row is negative, that's how short the funding will be for that proposal. (the leftmost column is what's remaining AFTER the row is paid (the amount on the right)) Good catch, i guess we will exercise our un-vote budget soon ? The key is remembering that payment priority is equal to popular vote (approval percentage.) The higher the value of yes' minus no's, the higher the proposal in the payment queue. At any time between cycles (listed here: https://goo.gl/5mNl6U ) votes can be recast to alter a proposals payment priority. If, at any time, the yes-no vote count goes under about 345 (10% of the total nodes) the proposal is permanently deleted from the network. |
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January 28, 2016, 05:47:22 AM |
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bug found, fixed. Next budget cycle has about 427 dash unallocated. estimated minimum budget: 7714.57142857
remaining approval name payment
7709.57142857 99.8% 2mb-blocksize 5.00
6533.57142857 99.4% core-team 1176.00
4433.57142857 98.5% dash-org 2100.00
3823.31142857 97.2% lamassu-integration 610.26
1667.31142857 92.0% public-awareness 2156.00
1527.31142857 88.8% ds-liquidity 140.00
427.31142857 68.3% transform-pr 1100.00 |
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flailing Junk
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January 28, 2016, 05:50:28 AM |
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Its interesting that the transform pr thing has a lot of no votes. What do people not like about it?
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January 28, 2016, 05:51:48 AM
Last edit: January 28, 2016, 06:05:05 AM by gusterdd |
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i think the project is too ambitious, take too long time and too expensive, break down the project goal and reduce time and cost. simple detail of fund uses would be nice...
"i think the project is too ambitious, take too long time and too expensive, break down the project goal and reduce time and cost. simple detail of fund uses would be nice...." if reduce time,cost I will vote yes. |
Interest : Mining Rig, Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, Monero, Dash, Bitshare
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January 28, 2016, 06:20:07 AM |
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built for humans now, hehe https://github.com/moocowmoo/dash-budget_statecurrent time : Thu, 28 Jan 2016 06:17:53 +0000
current block : 410608
next budget cycle : 20.53 days (11824 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7714.57142857
2mb-blocksize 99.8% 5.00 7709.57142857
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 6533.57142857
dash-org 98.5% 2100.00 4433.57142857
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 3823.31142857
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 1667.31142857
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 1527.31142857
transform-pr 68.3% 1100.00 427.31142857
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January 28, 2016, 06:28:22 AM |
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built for humans now, hehe https://github.com/moocowmoo/dash-budget_statecurrent time : Thu, 28 Jan 2016 06:17:53 +0000
current block : 410608
next budget cycle : 20.53 days (11824 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7714.57142857
2mb-blocksize 99.8% 5.00 7709.57142857
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 6533.57142857
dash-org 98.5% 2100.00 4433.57142857
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 3823.31142857
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 1667.31142857
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 1527.31142857
transform-pr 68.3% 1100.00 427.31142857
Moocowmoo make useful program easily. Thanks. |
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noobtrader
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January 28, 2016, 06:39:39 AM |
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if reduce time,cost I will vote yes.
agreed, maybe just 1 project that can be used to show off before http://satoshiroundtable.org/ would be great. |
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January 28, 2016, 06:41:27 AM |
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Where does one find a detailed list of budget proposals, with indepth explanations, time lines, costs etc etc.
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January 28, 2016, 06:55:33 AM |
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Wow that pump n dump crew are amazing. Watching the Last 2 weeks has been fascinating...
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January 28, 2016, 07:11:52 AM |
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The Daily Decrypt:
Everything 'Evolution' & 3rd Tier Possibilities w/ Dash's Evan Duffieldhttps://youtu.be/PlPEniN-LEA
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January 28, 2016, 07:50:03 AM |
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January 28, 2016, 07:51:39 AM |
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Evan is a treasure that never ceased to amaze me with his realness, kindness, humility of his articulous statements and the ability to explain complex issues in a simple way. Not to mention he's a Benjamin Franklin type visionary of the crypto and a tech mastermind. To piggyback on his genius is such a joy. |
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January 28, 2016, 08:03:33 AM |
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as I tend to do with these late night hacks... now with the next three budget estimates! (for those wondering, the 7% reduction happens after the next budget cycle, hence the under funding of the last-paid proposal) https://github.com/moocowmoo/dash-budget_statecurrent time : Thu, 28 Jan 2016 07:57:54 +0000
current block : 410649
next budget : 8.25 days - block 415400 ( 4751 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7714.57142857
2mb-blocksize 99.8% 5.00 7709.57142857
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 6533.57142857
dash-org 98.5% 2100.00 4433.57142857
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 3823.31142857
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 1667.31142857
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 1527.31142857
transform-pr 68.3% 1100.00 427.31142857
next budget : 37.10 days - block 448632 (21367 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7163.53061224
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 5987.53061224
dash-org 98.5% 2100.00 3887.53061224
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 3277.27061224
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 1121.27061224
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 981.27061224
transform-pr 68.3% 1100.00 -118.72938776
next budget : 65.94 days - block 481864 (37983 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7163.53061224
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 5987.53061224
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 5377.27061224
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 3221.27061224
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 3081.27061224
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January 28, 2016, 08:14:05 AM |
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as I tend to do with these late night hacks... now with the next three budget estimates! (for those wondering, the 7% reduction happens after the next budget cycle, hence the under funding of the last-paid proposal) https://github.com/moocowmoo/dash-budget_statecurrent time : Thu, 28 Jan 2016 07:57:54 +0000
current block : 410649
next budget : 8.25 days - block 415400 ( 4751 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7714.57142857
2mb-blocksize 99.8% 5.00 7709.57142857
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 6533.57142857
dash-org 98.5% 2100.00 4433.57142857
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 3823.31142857
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 1667.31142857
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 1527.31142857
transform-pr 68.3% 1100.00 427.31142857
next budget : 37.10 days - block 448632 (21367 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7163.53061224
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 5987.53061224
dash-org 98.5% 2100.00 3887.53061224
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 3277.27061224
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 1121.27061224
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 981.27061224
transform-pr 68.3% 1100.00 -118.72938776
next budget : 65.94 days - block 481864 (37983 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7163.53061224
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 5987.53061224
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 5377.27061224
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 3221.27061224
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 3081.27061224
When a proposal is partially cut off like that, will it get partially paid? Or fully rejected? |
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January 28, 2016, 08:18:20 AM |
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Thank Evan for the updates. DashDrive, what is that? Sound so interesting. Someone points me to that ? Like Storj doing now ? |
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January 28, 2016, 08:30:05 AM |
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Evan is a treasure that never ceased to amaze me with his realness, kindness, humility of his articulous statements and the ability to explain complex issues in a simple way. Not to mention he's a Benjamin Franklin type visionary of the crypto and a tech mastermind. To piggyback on his genius is such a joy. i totally agree meeting him in miami in person was amazing and you have your points totally right about him ! i made some comments regarding Miami and Team here: https://dashtalk.org/threads/tnabc-personal-view-ii.7795/ |
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January 28, 2016, 08:33:51 AM |
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Thank Evan for the updates. DashDrive, what is that? Sound so interesting. Someone points me to that ? Like Storj doing now ? 1. There's a decentralized file-system implementation called DashDrive, which stores "files" on the network. As a developer you can interact with the filesystem like it was local, but it's not, you just open these abstract files that are stored on the network itself. That's how we're going to sync the masternode system, budget systems, etc. https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-evolution-discussion-thread.7231/page-2#post-75963 |
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January 28, 2016, 08:54:10 AM |
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next budget : 37.10 days - block 448632 (21367 blocks)
name approval payment remaining
estimated budget 7163.53061224
core-team 99.4% 1176.00 5987.53061224
dash-org 98.5% 2100.00 3887.53061224
lamassu-integration 97.2% 610.26 3277.27061224
public-awareness 92.0% 2156.00 1121.27061224
ds-liquidity 88.8% 140.00 981.27061224
transform-pr 68.3% 1100.00 -118.72938776 When a proposal is partially cut off like that, will it get partially paid? Or fully rejected? Best I can tell (my c++ isn't great), a budget will not be paid if it cannot be fully paid. https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/src/masternode-budget.cpp#L671The budget processing will continue through the next budgets and try to fit them in instead. |
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January 28, 2016, 10:08:42 AM
Last edit: January 28, 2016, 10:27:52 AM by rentahash |
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Evan raised some serious questions which haven't been answered and were in fact almost dismissed.
Evan. you need to take control, before your community destroys what you are building.
Companies need leaders not chaos, it's a romantic thought decentralised. It's not ready for that, yet.
Please don't ruin an incredible project by forgetting the goal and falling victim to peer pressure.
As an example, facebook became a household name because friendships were lost, Mr Zuckerberg did what he did because he had to for the good of his project.
This proposal is a mistake. Please consider the following.
There is zero information about how the funds are going to be allocated.
No directive for what will be achieved.
No Achievable's with mile stones.
No Accountability.
It is laughable that a proposal like this would get consideration.
DASH is its own entity. If you want to create a business off the back of DASH do it with your own funding and your own steam.
Don't lose sight of what DASH is trying to achieve. It is not ready for the type of adoption you are asking funding for. Further more it's not the kind of growth you want.
It should not be the focus of DASH to figure out how to make it mainstream. it should be the focus of DASH to design a product that others want to make mainstream..
Focus on the fundamental design of the product. Core funds should go to development, proposals need to go towards marketing and PR and development.
The vending machine was a gimmick. nothing more nothing less. Lammasu ATMS are a gimmick, nothing more nothing less.
Facebook didn't create computers so that people could use facebook.
People bought computers to use facebook.
The community is strong but please don't be ignorant enough to believe you know better than hundreds of years of business design and practice.
Evan. Please take control.
Even I know soda machine sounds like a good way for promoting DASH and it is good for demonstrations and conferences but not yet for large scale usage, so I agree with you emitkirby. I dont want anybody to find him/herself offended by this. Soda machine was great and attractive way of getting attention and I am happy you made it on time guys! I can say this as my team are in process of developing few projects where it will show also power of DASH and privaTX and instanTX and we are not asking for any budget. Actually we are creating business model in a way where our projects should share profit streams with dev team! We are trying to create new solutions for faster development of DASH ecosystem, and I think budget should only be focused to the development of DASHe (evolution). I want to point few major issues why we are still not in production: 1. there is not a way to sendmanyIX 2. there is not a way to mix coins trough dash-cli 3. there should be a better way to get notification if transaction came trough IX or normal. I know devs are busy but I think these issues could be fast resolved. Long Live DASH! |
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