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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9707852 times)
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December 15, 2017, 05:27:36 PM

Though I believe my financial success should not be relative to a discussion on the honesty/dishonesty that has been at the core of this project since the beginning... The capital gains tax alone on having liquidated 7% of my total XMR this year is greater than what the current value of my 5 masternodes would be worth at todays value, including 3 years of masternode payouts. As someone who was at a time quite passionate about this project, my only ongoing interest in interacting with the community around it is to give people tools to realize the same things it took me so long to learn of / accept.

Where there is money there are lies.
Some people are blissful gullible and get rich. Some are professionals and get rich.
The one with the bad cards are the one with half wisdom.

If you so care about Dash's history you should start checking XMR's history. It will shock you how honest that one started.

From all the many Coins that came out 4 years ago there are very few that started the honest way. And those coins mostly went under and vanished.

Ask yourself: What was the motivation back then for anyone to create an Altcoin!?
What is the motivation for anyone to create ICO's this days?

Most ppl in crypto or at least the successfull ones comprehended that system very well or learned it very fast and know to navigate it.

The Coins that grew value did not get the value because of a fair or unfair start back then but because of the development that was put into them the last years. That's what matters. Or that is what should matter to you and the world the most and not if someone you should care less got rich along the way because you will never meet or cross his or her way anyway. The world is in need of a realisation of Satoshi's vision. You know what is happening with Bitcoin Core. We will need whatever good alternative we have left. Dash is the one that follows the vision best imo.

Bitcoin became useless for transaction the last weeks and months.

Dash is a bliss to me this days.

If Evan was honest/dishonest got rich did not get rich ... doesn't change anything. Dash is working and I thank everyone that contributed to get it working that well as it does today.

"There should not be any signed int. If you've found a signed int somewhere, please tell me (within the next 25 years please) and I'll change it to unsigned int." -- Satoshi
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December 15, 2017, 06:10:30 PM

Since everything this coin has to offer relies on masternodes, which require a hefty amount of coin ownership to operate, nothing could more critical when considering the security of this network than coin ownership distribution. Especially if certain entities own 1M+. Literally violates the satoshi dream in every way possible.
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December 15, 2017, 06:24:44 PM

Just seems like at this point DASH doesn't really bring anything special to the table. There are better solutions out there at this point, Dash just has brand name and a lot of big money in it.
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December 15, 2017, 06:33:53 PM

What is this coin into and for what reason would it be a good idea for us to be keen on putting resources into this coin are a portion of the inquiries to be replied before making a venture?
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December 15, 2017, 06:48:00 PM

WHY DID DUFFY DICK DELETE THIS?Huh

I'm about to pull out of Dash at this rate - Its performing so poorly against the competition.

lol. I feel bad for those short today.

Cause I should really stay out of trading. It's not where I'm best suited to be helping the project. It will lead to people changing their behavior on my behalf. Seems negative? I'm just trying to figure out where I best fit in and stay out of the rest.

On the other side though, I feel like it's my duty to inform the world that it is insane to short a hyper deflationary currency/medium. This is not a stock, it's not a commodity. It's a system of commerce. Going long you risk only the capital you put up, if short, you have infinite risk. Infinite risk on a hyper DEFLATIONARY asset. Think about it, it's going to get people hurt eventually.

It's not funny either, I want to express the idea a bit better, I think it's important for people to grasp.


EMC2 is switching to DASH X-11 ALGO ===> will this effect the ASICS? :-D thanks<<<


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_emc2


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December 15, 2017, 07:13:06 PM

WHY DID DUFFY DICK DELETE THIS?Huh

I'm about to pull out of Dash at this rate - Its performing so poorly against the competition.

lol. I feel bad for those short today.

Cause I should really stay out of trading. It's not where I'm best suited to be helping the project. It will lead to people changing their behavior on my behalf. Seems negative? I'm just trying to figure out where I best fit in and stay out of the rest.

On the other side though, I feel like it's my duty to inform the world that it is insane to short a hyper deflationary currency/medium. This is not a stock, it's not a commodity. It's a system of commerce. Going long you risk only the capital you put up, if short, you have infinite risk. Infinite risk on a hyper DEFLATIONARY asset. Think about it, it's going to get people hurt eventually.

It's not funny either, I want to express the idea a bit better, I think it's important for people to grasp.


EMC2 is switching to DASH X-11 ALGO ===> will this effect the ASICS? :-D thanks<<<


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_emc2



where did u read that?
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Just seems like at this point DASH doesn't really bring anything special to the table. There are better solutions out there at this point, Dash just has brand name and a lot of big money in it.

Yeah you are right, just a brand name and some big money ....

+ fast transactions
+ ultra low fees
+ optional privacy on its transactions
+ optional instant transactions which can not be double spend
+ masternodes that receive 45% of the block reward
+ miners (incl ASIC) that receive 45% of the block reward
+ decentralized budget system that received 10% of the block reward (which means Dash has a budget of some 4 million dollars per month, to fund projects that directly benefits Dash)
+ decentralized governance system that votes over the decentralized budget system
+ on-chain scaling solution in its roadmap
+ 2MB blocksize
+ 3 internal decentralized autonomous organisations (DAO's) that gets funded directly from the blockchain (Core-Team, Dash Force News and Dash Labs)
+ Dash ATM providers
+ Dash Evolution that within 8 months will provide userfriendly wallets (so friendly that your mother can use it) and connects endusers to the Dash network through a decentralized API (DAPI)
+ Dash itself is setup to function as a decentralized autonomous organisation (DAO)
+ guarding and implementing Satoshi vision of having a peer-to-peer digital cash system for everyone to use with very low fees
  
  

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December 15, 2017, 08:18:32 PM

Just seems like at this point DASH doesn't really bring anything special to the table. There are better solutions out there at this point, Dash just has brand name and a lot of big money in it.

Yeah you are right, just a brand name and some big money ....

+ fast transactions
+ ultra low fees
+ optional privacy on its transactions
+ optional instant transactions which can not be double spend
+ masternodes that receive 45% of the block reward
+ miners (incl ASIC) that receive 45% of the block reward
+ decentralized budget system that received 10% of the block reward (which means Dash has a budget of some 4 million dollars per month, to fund projects that directly benefits Dash)
+ decentralized governance system that votes over the decentralized budget system
+ on-chain scaling solution in its roadmap
+ 2MB blocksize
+ 3 internal decentralized autonomous organisations (DAO's) that gets funded directly from the blockchain (Core-Team, Dash Force News and Dash Labs)
+ Dash ATM providers
+ Dash Evolution that within 8 months will provide userfriendly wallets (so friendly that your mother can use it) and connects endusers to the Dash network through a decentralized API (DAPI)
+ Dash itself is setup to function as a decentralized autonomous organisation (DAO)
+ guarding and implementing Satoshi vision of having a peer-to-peer digital cash system for everyone to use with very low fees
  
  

amen to that !
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December 15, 2017, 11:45:41 PM

Just seems like at this point DASH doesn't really bring anything special to the table. There are better solutions out there at this point, Dash just has brand name and a lot of big money in it.

Yeah you are right, just a brand name and some big money ....

+ fast transactions
+ ultra low fees
+ optional privacy on its transactions
+ optional instant transactions which can not be double spend
+ masternodes that receive 45% of the block reward
+ miners (incl ASIC) that receive 45% of the block reward
+ decentralized budget system that received 10% of the block reward (which means Dash has a budget of some 4 million dollars per month, to fund projects that directly benefits Dash)
+ decentralized governance system that votes over the decentralized budget system
+ on-chain scaling solution in its roadmap
+ 2MB blocksize
+ 3 internal decentralized autonomous organisations (DAO's) that gets funded directly from the blockchain (Core-Team, Dash Force News and Dash Labs)
+ Dash ATM providers
+ Dash Evolution that within 8 months will provide userfriendly wallets (so friendly that your mother can use it) and connects endusers to the Dash network through a decentralized API (DAPI)
+ Dash itself is setup to function as a decentralized autonomous organisation (DAO)
+ guarding and implementing Satoshi vision of having a peer-to-peer digital cash system for everyone to use with very low fees
  
  
Thats right. Bitcoin will never have low fees and its not practical to buy cheap things with it. While Dash will always have low fees, because transactions are not verified by miners and unlike POS coins, Dash is not created out of thin air. All in all, Dash has both advantages of POW and POS coins, which is why it is way better option than bitcoin.
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December 15, 2017, 11:48:34 PM

Greetings, friends at Dash! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug, and as a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible. We are reaching out directly to the developers and communities of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own wallet).

watchonly-GUI bug: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal. You can import <any address> and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet: https://i.imgur.com/sVd0QTL.png

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

We want to spread awareness and facilitate discussion of this bug to minimize the impact.

Of course - we can always talk about how you can use BarterDEX today to trade Dash via atomic swap directly with your peers, through our beta GUI and without downloading the entire blockchain ; ) That is how we found the bug, afterall.

Stay safe,
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December 16, 2017, 12:26:58 AM


******* Amber Alert *********

Bitnovo - who have agreements with retailers all over Spain including one of the largest Supermarkets and another huge consumer electronics chain to distribute bitcoin prepaid gift cards - are integrating Dash.

According to today's published Dashforce News interview with Bitnovo's CEO the integration is comprehensive and fully parallel with their bitcoin support, including online purchases, payment cards and the retailer gift cards that are sold in several thousand outlets across Spain.

Bitnovo's twitter feed has retweeted the Dashforcenews article, so seems legit.



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December 16, 2017, 12:33:49 AM


******* Amber Alert *********

Bitnovo - who have agreements with retailers all over Spain including one of the largest Supermarkets and another huge consumer electronics chain to distribute bitcoin prepaid gift cards - are integrating Dash.

According to today's published Dashforce News interview with Bitnovo's CEO the integration is comprehensive and fully parallel with their bitcoin support, including online purchases, payment cards and the retailer gift cards that are sold in several thousand outlets across Spain.

Bitnovo's twitter feed has retweeted the Dashforcenews article, so seems legit.




This is massive news - congrats to Dash, Dash all over Spain!!!
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December 16, 2017, 12:45:05 AM


******* Amber Alert *********

Bitnovo - who have agreements with retailers all over Spain including one of the largest Supermarkets and another huge consumer electronics chain to distribute bitcoin prepaid gift cards - are integrating Dash.

According to today's published Dashforce News interview with Bitnovo's CEO the integration is comprehensive and fully parallel with their bitcoin support, including online purchases, payment cards and the retailer gift cards that are sold in several thousand outlets across Spain.

Bitnovo's twitter feed has retweeted the Dashforcenews article, so seems legit.




This is massive news - congrats to Dash, Dash all over Spain!!!

This is great news... To bad not in France right now... Just landing in Paris.  ... Would be great to spend some dash here too.
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December 16, 2017, 01:29:52 AM


===== Bitnovo Announcement on their own Site ======

https://medium.com/bitnovo/bitnovo-loves-dash-fbe463567f8b
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Meanwhile, Alt36, one of Dash's larger blockchain-funded contractors has just submitted a project update.

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******* Amber Alert *********

Bitnovo - who have agreements with retailers all over Spain including one of the largest Supermarkets and another huge consumer electronics chain to distribute bitcoin prepaid gift cards - are integrating Dash.

According to today's published Dashforce News interview with Bitnovo's CEO the integration is comprehensive and fully parallel with their bitcoin support, including online purchases, payment cards and the retailer gift cards that are sold in several thousand outlets across Spain.

Bitnovo's twitter feed has retweeted the Dashforcenews article, so seems legit.






This is great news today , while every altcoin have a good news and dash have a best news .

With bitnovo support i believe the dash price keep rising up .
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December 16, 2017, 05:47:50 AM

DASH - The Name Is What We Made It - Dash Nation

http://www.dashnation.com/opinion/dash-name-made/

#DashNation #CashAlternative

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December 16, 2017, 10:01:04 AM

What is this coin into and for what reason would it be a good idea for us to be keen on putting resources into this coin are a portion of the inquiries to be replied before making a venture?


https://github.com/dashpay/dash-roadmap

Evan Duffield Starting 'Skunk Works' to ‘Future-Proof’ Dash
https://youtu.be/w0bJjUgPAq8

Interview with Evan Duffield on Evolution's Roadmap
https://youtu.be/E65QixSRosw






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December 16, 2017, 10:10:32 AM

Since everything this coin has to offer relies on masternodes, which require a hefty amount of coin ownership to operate, nothing could more critical when considering the security of this network than coin ownership distribution. Especially if certain entities own 1M+. Literally violates the satoshi dream in every way possible.


The biggest Dash whale was otoh who owned 420 Masternodes (420k Dash) but sold all but around 100 of them this year. His friends he sold them to are very happy right about now i'm sure.
The only person I know that has a 1M+ coins is satoshi and his bitcoins.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...
Why the monero/bitmonero/MRO/BMR/XMR Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435385.0

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December 16, 2017, 05:36:38 PM


Meanwhile, Alt36, one of Dash's larger blockchain-funded contractors has just submitted a project update.



The speed of this project's implementation (clicking on the picture will lead to opening a pfd file, which contains the project's update) is rather impressive.

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Since the last update on the Alt Thirty Six proposal, the final implementation document number 10 was produced with all required deliverables + additional features.
We have pushed to production servers and are now able to process live DASH transactions on Product36.

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