[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[iCEBREAKER]

Dash: The Magical and Lucrative Investment Opportunity

https://beinglibertarian.com/dash-magical-combination-anonymity-lucrative-investment-opportunity-/

#dash_force_spam

The President of Dash, Ryan Taylor, said that for legal reasons the Dash community must refrain from selling Dash as an "investment opportunity."

(Because if the SEC/FTC see Dash being marketed as an investment it will trigger the Howey Test and EVAN DUFFIELD D.B.A. THE DASH FOUNDATION INC. may face being regulated/fined/prosecuted like another other snake oil HYIP conman.)

What is concerning about marketing Dash as an investment?

In an environment in which ICOs are actively marketed, it may seem “normal” to market Dash as an investment. However, we believe that over the course of time these practices will be considered unethical and in many cases illegal, and primarily serve to tarnish Dash’s brand.

[tungfa]

What Is the Dash Masternode Tool?


https://themerkle.com/what-is-the-dash-masternode-tool/

#dash_force

Great Tool !!

DMT Version 0.9.11 Downloads:
https://github.com/Bertrand256/dash-masternode-tool/releases/tag/v0.9.11

[iCEBREAKER]

Okay so Dash is:
super fast - transactions in seconds
private - untracable options if you want
low fees
can adopt btc updates cause similar tech

Why isn't this the nr1 coin? Does it have any problems?

Dash has many problems, like the Instamine and having a reputation as a HYIP scam with bad technology and cheesy marketing.

Right now, the Dash community is infighting over the slow (nonexistent?) pace of Evolution vaporware development, wasted money on ATM/debit scams, lack of Dash Core Club communication, completely broken Budget Proposal fees/review/approval process, etc.  Apparently throwing money at random internet people and hoping for the best isn't a great governance model, but without multisig that's all Dash can do!

Dash isn't "super fast" because InstantSend is currently disabled due to being a proven security flaw allowing possible double spending.

Dash isn't "private" or "untraceable" because PrivateSend is a nearly unusable mess right now.  Slow and unreliable, plus the bounty to break PrivateSend was never funded.

Dash only has low fees because nobody is using it, reflecting its low (modifed) Metcalfe value.

Overall, it's not clear what problems Dash is proposing to solve, much less how Dash is going to solve them without modern features like RBF, Bech32, segwit, Lightning, MAST, Schnorr tree signature aggregation, etc.

Dash hasn't even fixed transaction malleability or implemented Compact Blocks.  Bitcoin Core did these things ages ago.

There is also the giant issue of critical bugs in the ancient version of Bitcon that Dash is based on.

When it's time, we're going to troll this cargo cult coin at the protocol level and show the world why you don't waste resources on marketing before the crypto is secure....

Dash's biggest problem is that it can't even defend itself from the scam accusations because the evidence just too overwhelming.  That why Tone Vays dumped it.

Sadly, the Dash community won't even discuss these issues on open forums.  They just attack the poster, post GIANT STOCK IMAGES, and recruit for their closed echo-chamber Slack.

I know late reply but I really appreciate your comment!

Thank you!  Hearing such nice comments makes all my effort-posting worthwhile.  I hope you represent many others who my warnings have saved from the Dash Instamine scam.

I admit I underestimated Icey's trolling. This looks serious to a newbie, even though he is mixing lies with bits of truth...

I'm going to redouble and professionalize my actions to expose the Dash scam.  You haven't seen anything yet.

[bigrcanada1]

Yawn!  

DASH is all consuming for you.  It is slowly eating away at your soul.  It consumes you, it burns you inside...it is all powerful in your life.  DASH is slowly infiltrating your very being...you mission is to constantly think, talk, feel, hate all things DASH.

DASH will slowly become your master.  You will give in to that hate.  






DASH!

[tungfa]

Dash Core Team Q3 2017 Summary Call
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-core-team-q3-2017-summary-call.17616/#post-144230

[Majormax]

I admit I underestimated Icey's trolling. This looks serious to a newbie, even though he is mixing lies with bits of truth...

Yes, looks like it is having a steady effect on price.

Dash price is creeping down slowly.

[qwizzie]

I admit I underestimated Icey's trolling. This looks serious to a newbie, even though he is mixing lies with bits of truth...

Yes, looks like it is having a steady effect on price.

Dash price is creeping down slowly.

Interesting, so you think the posting of one person in one forum dictates the price movement of a whole market ?
Icetroll will be delighted to hear that  

The greatest power is often simple patience.

- E. Joseph Cossman

[Majormax]

Interesting, so you think the posting of one person in one forum dictates the price movement of a whole market ?
Icetroll will be delighted to hear that  

The greatest power is often simple patience.

- E. Joseph Cossman

Butterfly effect.

I don't know what the future holds, but icey is quite an influence on this thread.

[Macrochip]

Oh yes, iCEHOLE congratulating himself in a masturbatory manner with sock puppet accounts he created early this month totally sway the entire market. LOL

This pathetic clown has been hating on Dash for years and has achieved exactly zero. He's an inside joke in our community and we're all laughing our asses off over his ludicrous attempts to hurt us. Dash price has exploded beyond anyone's imagination, least of all his. So he went completely bonkers making up the most ridiculous nonsense about our team, the development and the general state of Dash. Check out our Discord channel. We compete with each other over who can make the most retarded iCEHOLE impressions. Laughing stock par excellence.

No need to remind anyone that we've annihilated every word he ever said thousands of times by now. Whoever believes him is a complete fool and will deservedly miss out massively when Dash surpasses 10 billion mcap. Just like those who are furious at him now when we surpassed 1 billion, 2 billion, 3 billion.

Best scam in the entirety of mankind. Please scam me some more, I'll buy a third car with my scam victimhood.

[qwizzie]

Interesting, so you think the posting of one person in one forum dictates the price movement of a whole market ?
Icetroll will be delighted to hear that  

The greatest power is often simple patience.

- E. Joseph Cossman

Butterfly effect.

I don't know what the future holds, but icey is quite an influence on this thread.

Icetroll only has influence on those that are insecure about their own tradings and are not aware of his trolling techniques.
Which on this ANN thread is rather difficult as most of us are longterm investors, not easily swayed by Icetroll fud posts.

This makes his influence on this Dash ANN thread rather insignificant and of course has zero effect on the Dash price, which
by the way seems to be forming a new trend : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/DASHBTC/d4ijJQiq-DASHBTC-Rising-from-the-bottom/

[NibiruHybrid]

The Hardest Demographic for Crypto to Crack

In my years living entirely off of cryptocurrency I’ve noticed a certain few trends in how the world tends to react to concept. I’ve paid my ridesharing driver in cryptocurrency many times, and a whole street in ritzy downtown Portsmouth, NH accepts Dash as payment for goods and services. Plenty of businesses still don’t, however, and in a continuing attempt to understand what makes people decide whether or not to use digital currency, I’ve discovered the harder group to reach: the middle class.

Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/hardest-demographic-crypto-crack/

[iCEBREAKER]

I admit I underestimated Icey's entertaining witticisms, astonishingly comprehensive factual research and astute logical analysis.

This looks serious to a newbie, even though he is mixing important discussion about a fragile $2 billion scam teetering on the brink of collapse with bits of humor and sarcasm...

Yes, looks like it is having a steady effect on price.

Dash price is creeping down slowly.

Interesting, so you think the posting of one person in one forum dictates the price movement of a whole market ?
Icetroll will be delighted to hear that  

The greatest power is often simple patience.

- E. Joseph Cossman

Butterfly effect.

I don't know what the future holds, but icey is quite an influence on this thread.

In the future, I will endeavor to be "quite an influence" in more places than on this relatively obscure BBS.

I've done almost all I can here and need to seek out and warn clueless potential/actual Dash HYIP victims wherever they are.

After all, Jesus walked among the sinners and tax collectors, not the saints.  It's time to go deeper into the Dash cult, and rout out that den of vipers and thieves.

Oh yes, iCEHOLE congratulating himself in a masturbatory manner with sock puppet accounts he created early this month totally sway the entire market.  

This pathetic clown has been hating on Dash for years and has achieved exactly zero. He's an inside joke in our community and we're all laughing our asses off over his ludicrous attempts to hurt us. Dash price has exploded beyond anyone's imagination, least of all his. So he went completely bonkers making up the most ridiculous nonsense about our team, the development and the general state of Dash. Check out our Discord channel. We compete with each other over who can make the most retarded iCEHOLE impressions. Laughing stock par excellence.

No need to remind anyone that we've annihilated every word he ever said thousands of times by now. Whoever believes him is a complete fool and will deservedly miss out massively when Dash surpasses 10 billion mcap. Just like those who are furious at him now when we surpassed 1 billion, 2 billion, 3 billion.

Best scam in the entirety of mankind. Please scam me some more, I'll buy a third car with my scam victimhood.

Yikes!  So pouty and defensive.  You sound really mad and very salty.  Not the happy tone we expect to hear from someone who is buying cars with his Instamine profits.

It's ironic you go to such lengths to tell everyone in excruciating detail exactly how much you don't care about my activity in Dash world (too bad the 'Everybody Ignore Icey So Tao Can Control The Narrative' campaign was a complete failure).

But I'll take you at your word, and try harder to make the wide world outside of Bitcointalk more aware of Dash's Instamine, Spork backdoor, Core centralization, broken InstandSend, shitty PrivateSend, gridlocked/broken DGBB, lack of multisig leading to throwing money at scams, etc.

[rebal15]

Interesting, so you think the posting of one person in one forum dictates the price movement of a whole market ?
Icetroll will be delighted to hear that  

The greatest power is often simple patience.

- E. Joseph Cossman

Butterfly effect.

I don't know what the future holds, but icey is quite an influence on this thread.

Icetroll only has influence on those that are insecure about their own tradings and are not aware of his trolling techniques.
Which on this ANN thread is rather difficult as most of us are longterm investors, not easily swayed by Icetroll fud posts.

This makes his influence on this Dash ANN thread rather insignificant and of course has zero effect on the Dash price, which
by the way seems to be forming a new trend : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/DASHBTC/d4ijJQiq-DASHBTC-Rising-from-the-bottom/

I have an order at 0.035BTC, will it be filled till november hard fork?

[iCEBREAKER]

I have an order at 0.035BTC, will it be filled till november hard fork?

Please keep this kind of thing in one of the Dash Price Speculation threads.

This is not the right place to post TA graphics and zero-information account-farming/rank-mining posts.

I've moved the discussion to a more appropriate venue: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1736249.msg23738075#new

You're welcome!

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

MASTERNODE OWNERS, PLEASE WATCH!!

CATV Uncut: Bit to Byte CEO August Domanchuk

https://youtu.be/IEZVrHqG6Wc

#DashNation #CashAlternative

[afbitcoins]

Whats up Dashers?

Did you know Icey isn't as loyal as we thought? Shockingly he also trolls the bitcoin cash thread. He's been two timing us!

Oh look, the Dash Troll Patrol guy is here to earn his Instamined Shill Shekels.

'member when Dash Force announced that I would no longer be allowed to control the narrative w/r/t Dash's Instamine, centralization, HYIP, etc?

That was over a year ago, but I'm now more firmly in control of the narrative than ever before.  Just check /r/cryptocurrency and search for Dash...

Why is afbitcoins always buzzing around shitcoins like a fly waiting for the opportunity land on a pile of poop?  Bcash and Dcash aren't even especially well executed scams.

afbitcoins' idiotic denial that there exists a problem with Bcash addresses being confused with real Bitcoin resembles his likewise idiotic refusals to admit Dash's InstandSend is broken, Dash's "Spork" master key creates centralization, and Dash's attempt to create a bounty for PrivateSend bugs failed.

In afbitcoins' make-believe world of wishful thinking and pure imagination, Bcash is the real Bitcoin and Dash isn't an instamined centralized bug-prone shitcoin scam.

Oh yes and he controls the narrative  

[Majormax]

Whats up Dashers?

Did you know Icey isn't as loyal as we thought? Shockingly he also trolls the bitcoin cash thread. He's been two timing us!

Shouldn't be a surprise. A real professional: Icey is expressing his opinion, trying to warn others about what he feels are poorly constructed projects.

The blockchain environment is evolved by just that sort of opinion, and the path ahead is by no means certain.

IMO criticisms of Dash are not all justified, but I do think that the governance system and the use of funds makes Dash flabby and unfit to fight against it's competition .

[afbitcoins]

Whats up Dashers?

Did you know Icey isn't as loyal as we thought? Shockingly he also trolls the bitcoin cash thread. He's been two timing us!

Shouldn't be a surprise. A real professional: Icey is expressing his opinion, trying to warn others about what he feels are poorly constructed projects.

The blockchain environment is evolved by just that sort of opinion, and the path ahead is by no means certain.

IMO criticisms of Dash are not all justified, but I do think that the governance system and the use of funds makes Dash flabby and unfit to fight against it's competition .

A real professional. I find that a bit of a stretch.. Unless you mean he gets paid for the trolling, maybe? He's  a professional troll? Whos to know. He comes across to me as a pure bitcoin core shill.

Btw Icey if you read this, no I don't get paid instamined shekels or in fact dash for commenting on here. So as usual wrong again.

[Majormax]

Professional : engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation

So yes, paid. Not implying any particular level of competence.

[iCEBREAKER]

Whats up Dashers?

Did you know Icey isn't as loyal as we thought? Shockingly he also trolls the bitcoin cash thread. He's been two timing us!

Oh look, the Dash Troll Patrol guy is here to earn his Instamined Shill Shekels.

'member when Dash Force announced that I would no longer be allowed to control the narrative w/r/t Dash's Instamine, centralization, HYIP, etc?

That was over a year ago, but I'm now more firmly in control of the narrative than ever before.  Just check /r/cryptocurrency and search for Dash...

Why is afbitcoins always buzzing around shitcoins like a fly waiting for the opportunity land on a pile of poop?  Bcash and Dcash aren't even especially well executed scams.

afbitcoins' idiotic denial that there exists a problem with Bcash addresses being confused with real Bitcoin resembles his likewise idiotic refusals to admit Dash's InstandSend is broken, Dash's "Spork" master key creates centralization, and Dash's attempt to create a bounty for PrivateSend bugs failed.

In afbitcoins' make-believe world of wishful thinking and pure imagination, Bcash is the real Bitcoin and Dash isn't an instamined centralized bug-prone shitcoin scam.

Oh yes and he controls the narrative  

You must be new here.  Otherwise you would have seen me mercilessly trolling the XT/Classic/Unlimited/Bcash/B2X forkers over the last several years.  Sorry snowflake, you're not that special.

Here's a topical history lesson in the phase you brought up. 

Here is a technical blog post by DJB which talks about different approaches to cryptographic security.

It appears that Dash uses the "attacker economist" approach.

I believe this is a very relevant technical discussion that applies to crypto currency and in particular for this thread: DASH

Here is the link to the post: http://blog.cr.yp.to/20151120-batchattacks.html

No way in hell you're getting me to waste my time reading that. I'll never get those 10 minutes back...

Don't read it.

But that's okay as I'm already a "troll" right?

Others may read it some may not...doesn't bother me. I'm just posting facts and my own take on those facts.

Good sir... No we will not put you on ignore.  You and your abusive thugs/trolls will not control the narrative on our DASH communities.   Your thinly masked contempt for our superior currency and community will in the end be your undoing.   DASH talk is the forum to get real information.   Everyone knows it.   In fact I'm seriously thinking of paying for a bunch of banner ads on all of bitcointalk to point that out. 

It seems BigR's chest-pounding declarations, assertions, and promises were just so much lulzy, frothy braggadocio.  He couldn't even keep his BCT account safe! 

Control the Narrative: What I Learned Working Dash Force’s “Troll Patrol”


I do this thing colloquially called the “troll patrol.”

Not everyone understands the value of the troll patrol. That’s understandable, since from the outside it all looks like a bunch of petty fighting and arguing with people who won’t change their minds. Having been in the trenches for some time, however, I can assure you that there’s a lot more going on beneath the surface than meets the eye. To that effect I’m going to write a series of articles on what I’ve learned from countering trolls for a living, starting with narrative control....

https://www.dashforcnews.com/control-narrative-learned-working-dash-forces-troll-patrol/

4: Control the narrative

Trolling establishes narrative control by repeatedly shouting one message over and over, in absence of a competing viewpoint. If people only hear one story they will be forced to accept it, while introducing a second opinion makes them undecided pending further research. If the truth is on your side, this is always a win, as onlookers will either remain indifferent or look closely into the claims of each side, which is a death blow to the trolls.

Setting aside the fact that most of the Dash trolls are the ones attacking others (hi /u/Basilpop) to deflect attention away from the Instamine, Joel makes a good point or two here.

Having the facts on my anti-InstamineScam side does make it much easier to win over onlookers.  The best example of that is when we "trolled" Tone Vays by explaining the Instamine was intentional, causing him to dump his Dash and warn the world about it being a scam.

'member?  https://twitter.com/ToneVays/status/717822927908024320

Upon discovering Dash's Instamine was provably intentional, he experienced what is called 'narrative collapse' when his false beliefs (learned from Dash propaganda) could not explain actual reality.