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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9588882 times)
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May 05, 2018, 10:03:20 AM

Not a very active community, eerily quiet 🤫

The community abandoned bitcointalk long time ago due trolling.

You can find the community here:  

DashNation on Discord:
https://discord.gg/9z8zX5j

Dash forum:
https://www.dash.org/forum

Dash Pages - 'Communication/News' Social Media, Chat Groups,Blogs .... (Nov 2017)
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-pages-communication-news-social-media-chat-groups-blogs-nov-2017.6460

enjoy,
I don't think hiding in the darkness is a smart decision. It's time this community come out from beneath it's rock and face the world. Every coin has trolls to deal with, it's the nature of the business. A privacy coin doesn't require private community.

You are not making much sense here. Dash Nation, Dash Forum and the Dash social media channels are all public forums where anyone can participate. There is no hiding in the darkness or a need to come out from any particular rock,
the only difference between those websites and this Bitcointalk forum website is that this forum is not moderated, except by the moderator from the bitcointalk forum.

This Bitcointalk forum is not exactly abandoned like Tungfa mentioned, its more like Dash has outgrown this forum and successfully started up many other Dash communitcation channels / websites which is only natural for such
an internationally focussed cryptocurrency movement.

This does mean Dash Nation, Dash Forum and the Dash social media channels offer Dash more control on those people who spam Dash forums trying to promote other cryptocurrencies or on those people engaged in trolling activities.
Its a bit weird to see someone relatively new to Dash, show such limited understanding about Dash.
These dash run social media channels are great for those who are already invested in dash but they will do nothing to capture new investors coming in to the crypto market. Talking down to new investors isn't going to help either. This community needs an overhaul if it really wants to compete with all the new projects entering the space. Unless of coarse you're complacent watching dashes market cap slide down the chart.

There are much better ways to attract new investors, then keeping a high profile on the Bitcointalk forum (which Dash has basicly outgrown by now). The answer lays in Dash budget proposal system that funds meetings, establish Dash communities in other countries (like Venezuela) and
create and strenghten Dash own eco-system consisting of merchants, users and service providers.

Links :

https://www.dashcentral.org/budget
https://dashvotetracker.com/

There really is no need to feel worried about Dash marketcap position, its both out of our control (Dash community and Dash dev team) and it is subject to market cycles. Only shortterm investors unnecessarily worry about marketcap position.
    
Don't forget what got dash in to the top ten. It sounds like to me you're team has become complacent." (which Dash has basicly outgrown by now)" I think it's time to get off your high horse and get back in the trenches where projects are competing. Don't underestimate forum's like bitcointalk, this is where all the new investors are looking.

If you really believe all new investors are only looking in this sub-forum of the Bitcointalk, you have a lot to learn about how investors operate and on which level they move. Professional investors check multiple sources, with this Bitcointalk forum source the absolute lowest on their watch list.
This Dash Bitcointalk sub-forum currently has 6617 pages and is absolutely a nightmare to find relevant information about Dash roadmap and its project updates in back. There is no sorting of any kind, just one ANN thread where everything gets dumped in, page after page. At least 50% of these pages
consists of trolling posts or people promoting other cryptocurrencies.
  
Just for the sake of argument, i suggest you compare this Bitcointalk ANN thread with the official Dash Forums (https://www.dash.org/forum/) & https://docs.dash.org/en/latest/introduction/about.html, its much easier for investors to retrieve reliable information through these official Dash websites.  


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when DASH price falls these fuckers are gonna be running back here LOL

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Professional investors check multiple sources

to know where folks circle jerk and suckers get indoctrinated?  Cheesy

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you have a lot to learn about how investors operate and on which level they move.

the lower tier? those suckers whose gonna get dumped on?  Cheesy

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with this Bitcointalk forum source the absolute lowest on their watch list.

in what forum where you can catch some of those instamine bug and buy em DASH cheaper? ..lowest indeed  Cheesy
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May 05, 2018, 10:09:06 AM

I am investing into DASH, amazing project.

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May 05, 2018, 10:14:33 AM

dash is looking very bearish? Can japan really have this much of an impact?

Japan can definitely do it, let alone pushed up the bitcoin price that goes up every day, 1W on bitcoin has started toward the green point, maybe DASH will follow it too, altcoin other.
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dash is looking very bearish? Can japan really have this much of an impact?

Japan can definitely do it, let alone pushed up the bitcoin price that goes up every day, 1W on bitcoin has started toward the green point, maybe DASH will follow it too, altcoin other.

They showed crystal clear direction about the future of privacy based coin but it take few more time to catch the momentum for current ongoing rally. All markets are recovering hopefully Dash has good chance to keep continue into positive way.
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May 05, 2018, 11:23:05 AM

How is DASH on Wirex project moving on?

https://wirexapp.com/dash-wallet-integration/

Little time ago Wirex added LTC not DASH Huh Huh Huh
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May 05, 2018, 01:08:29 PM

In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.
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Do Dash MN's qualify as an illegal security, according to the S.E.C.'s new rules?
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Do Dash MN's qualify as an illegal security, according to the S.E.C.'s new rules?

Short answer : No
Longer answer : Dash fails more than one aspect of the Howey Test and cannot be considered a security

Link :

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/is-dash-a-security-as-defined-by-sec.34284/
https://docs.dash.org/en/latest/legal.html

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In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

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This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/

Ethereum is also working on implementing privacy into their model, problem is that for them the progress has slowed down considerable but they are working on it and already implemented improvements to clear the way for confidentiality :

Link : https://www.coindesk.com/progress-hot-ethereum-privacy-projects-cooling-off/


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May 05, 2018, 03:03:56 PM

In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

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This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?
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May 05, 2018, 03:04:58 PM

In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

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This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?
In light of this...https://www.coindesk.com/investor-sues-ripple-and-alleges-xrp-is-a-security/
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In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

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This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?

No, not really as Dash was not pre-mined as you very well know .. which makes you question obsolete.
Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Sorry volyova, no cookie for you because you clearly did not do your homework today.


 

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May 05, 2018, 03:09:24 PM

In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

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This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?

No, not really as Dash was not pre-mined as you very well know .. which makes you question obsolete.
Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Sorry volyova, no cookie for you because you clearly did not do your homework today.


 
Well, I hope the S.E.C. agrees with you. It doesn't really matter what it says on Dashpay, "splitting hairs" won't work with those guys...
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May 05, 2018, 03:12:36 PM

In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

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This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?

No, not really as Dash was not pre-mined as you very well know .. which makes you question obsolete.
Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Sorry volyova, no cookie for you because you clearly did not do your homework today.


 
Well, I hope the S.E.C. agrees with you. It doesn't really matter what it says on Dashpay.

One look at the blockchain will confirm that Dash was not pre-mined, you cant change facts dear volyova.
Trump tries that constantly but look where it got him, i hate to see you get trumped like that.

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In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

Quote
This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?

No, not really as Dash was not pre-mined as you very well know .. which makes you question obsolete.
Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Sorry volyova, no cookie for you because you clearly did not do your homework today.


 
Well, I hope the S.E.C. agrees with you. It doesn't really matter what it says on Dashpay.

One look at the blockchain will confirm that Dash was not pre-mined .... you cant change facts dear volyova.
Trump tries that constantly but look where it got him...
Um...didn't it get him in the White House? And...isn't he still there?
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In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

Quote
This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?

No, not really as Dash was not pre-mined as you very well know .. which makes you question obsolete.
Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Sorry volyova, no cookie for you because you clearly did not do your homework today.


 
Well, I hope the S.E.C. agrees with you. It doesn't really matter what it says on Dashpay.

One look at the blockchain will confirm that Dash was not pre-mined .... you cant change facts dear volyova.
Trump tries that constantly but look where it got him...
Um...didn't it get him in the White House? And...isn't he still there?

Lets just say that trying to change facts gets you in troubled waters. So lets just stick to the facts shall we.

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May 05, 2018, 03:17:32 PM

In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

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This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?

No, not really as Dash was not pre-mined as you very well know .. which makes you question obsolete.
Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Sorry volyova, no cookie for you because you clearly did not do your homework today.


 
Well, I hope the S.E.C. agrees with you. It doesn't really matter what it says on Dashpay.

One look at the blockchain will confirm that Dash was not pre-mined .... you cant change facts dear volyova.
Trump tries that constantly but look where it got him...
Um...didn't it get him in the White House? And...isn't he still there?

Lets just say that trying to change facts gets you in troubled waters. So lets just stick to the facts shall we.
Ok, facts then. Do you really think that the S.E.C. will believe your story that it was a "bug", that enabled so many Dash to be mined in the first few hours of it's existence? How many was it again? I forget...but I know it was millions.
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May 05, 2018, 03:24:53 PM

In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

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This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?

No, not really as Dash was not pre-mined as you very well know .. which makes you question obsolete.
Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Sorry volyova, no cookie for you because you clearly did not do your homework today.


 
Well, I hope the S.E.C. agrees with you. It doesn't really matter what it says on Dashpay.

One look at the blockchain will confirm that Dash was not pre-mined .... you cant change facts dear volyova.
Trump tries that constantly but look where it got him...
Um...didn't it get him in the White House? And...isn't he still there?

Lets just say that trying to change facts gets you in troubled waters. So lets just stick to the facts shall we.
Ok, facts then. Do you really think that the S.E.C. will believe your story that it was a "bug", that enabled so many Dash to be mined in the first few hours of it's existence? How many was it again? I forget...but I know it was millions.

I think the S.E.C. will have their hands full with investigating actual Initial Coin Offerings (ICO's) schemes and will not particular feel a need to investigate proof of work cryptocurrencies that are
well-establised and more then three years old. Hell, they may as well then examine cryptocurrencies that deliberately crippled their mining software in their first few months after launch.
I'm trying to remember the name of that cryptocurrency where this actually happened, i think it starts with a M and ends with an O ? Can you help me out here volyova ?

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May 05, 2018, 03:29:46 PM

In order to prevent money laundering and other criminal activity, Japan’s Financial Services Agency, is quietly pressuring cryptocurrency exchanges to give up handling Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and Dash (DASH) and other cryptocurrencies favored by criminals and hackers. Sources close to the FSA confirmed that they were taking all available steps to discourage the use of certain alternative virtual currencies that have become attractive to the underworld because they are difficult to track. In September of last year, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, Europol, released a report that warned “other cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Ethereum and Zcash are gaining popularity within the digital underground.” Criminals, who were some of the earliest adopters of Bitcoin, have increasingly dropped that cryptocurrency for transactions in favor of Monero and other less traceable "altcoins."
According to the Japanese authorities, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the recipients of currencies like Monero via a blockchain or any other public ledger. The anonymity makes the coins ideal for money laundering. The blockchain (public ledger) for bitcoin, makes it possible for seasoned investigators to follow the money. Increasingly, cyber criminals choose these new "privacy coins" when they demand ransom payments or engage in sales of illegal goods.
The FSA is particularly adverse to Monero, especially after it was reported in January that North Korea may be mining the currency to raise funds.

Guess what, right after Japan put more strict regulation in place the following happened :

http://bitcoinist.com/kraken-exchange-decides-to-close-down-japan-operations/

Quote
This announcement came about due to cited increased operational costs, and Japan’s increasing regulation of the cryptocurrency market may have also been a factor.

Same with USA Bitlicense : if regulation goes too far in a specific city (New York in this case) or country (Japan / China) , crypto businesses will pull out and leave that state / country behind.

I find the whole situation a bit strange, what if Bitcoin implement through a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) more privacy on their chain, will Japan then also delist Bitcoin ?

Link : https://blog.iqoption.com/en/bitcoin-the-path-to-anonymity-and-privacy/
Exactly, LN will be super-private. Also, aren't you worried about S.E.C. implications regarding Dash's 12% pre-mine?

No, not really as Dash was not pre-mined as you very well know .. which makes you question obsolete.
Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Sorry volyova, no cookie for you because you clearly did not do your homework today.


 
Well, I hope the S.E.C. agrees with you. It doesn't really matter what it says on Dashpay.

One look at the blockchain will confirm that Dash was not pre-mined .... you cant change facts dear volyova.
Trump tries that constantly but look where it got him...
Um...didn't it get him in the White House? And...isn't he still there?

Lets just say that trying to change facts gets you in troubled waters. So lets just stick to the facts shall we.
Also, do you really think that the S.E.C. will believe your story that it was a "bug", that enabled so many Dash to be mined in the first few hours of it's existence?

I think the S.E.C. will have their hands full with investigating actual Initial Coin Offerings (ICO's) schemes and will not particular feel a need to investigate proof of work cryptocurrencies that are
well-establised and more then three years old. Hell, they may as well then examine cryptocurrencies that deliberately crippled their mining software in their first few months after launch.
I'm trying to remember the name of that cryptocurrency where this actually happened, i think it started with a M and ended with an O ? Can you help me out here volyova ?

You're wrong about me, I don't care for XMR, or it's "community" (which is just a bunch of horrible trolls imo) It wouldn't bother me at all if they landed in hot water as well. I'd welcome it. Unfair mining is unfair mining.
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May 05, 2018, 03:44:41 PM

You're wrong about me, I don't care for XMR, or it's "community" (which is just a bunch of horrible trolls imo) It wouldn't bother me at all if they landed in hot water as well. I'd welcome it. Unfair mining is unfair mining.

Well, for someone who does not care for XMR or its "community", you sure are spending a lot of time in their speculation thread  Roll Eyes

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