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https://cryptoizzy.blogspot.ca/2018/02/monero-dashing-ahead.html

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If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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February 27, 2018, 12:17:07 AM

Buddy ol pal...here is the problem,.  

I, unlike you, have no reason to hide my identity Mr IB.  I have nothing to fear because I try to be respectful in my conduct even if I disagree with people.  I travel the world promoting my region, our wines and the belief that this ecosystem of crypto currencies in general have the power to better our society.  I'm constantly aware that my actions matter...that those of my peers are in fact listening and certainly I do not go out of my way to incite hate and to body shame people and spread toxicity and more far more importantly engage in psychological abuse of an entire community.

And in there lies your dilemma, you have cultivated a legion of countless enemies in your abusive campaign of hate  in the false belief that this ecosystem provided you with anonymity.  You and no one else have created the predicament you face.  Certainly you weren't of the belief that you had some god given right to molest, harass and abuse a whole community for years with out some thought that eventually there would be a breaking point, did you?!?  

Did you not consider that in a ecosystem of cyber punks and those on our society's fringe, now empowered with new found millions of dollars wouldn't have the means to sniff you out?!?  For a man of your claimed intelligence...that's seems extremely careless.

 I'm sure the "high" powered lawyers you claim to know would certainly have advised you against engaging in abusive and personal attacks on individuals and whole communities and would have advised you that such behavior could result in unwanted consequences.

See IB,  I'm not the one you should be concerned about ...and I too have great legal counsel and understand that my words matter, maybe you should be more cognizant of that in your conduct.  

...you reap what you sow!

You are still failing to account for the vast difference between a public figure and a private individual.  Are you even capable of understanding what those words mean, much less comprehending how they may be parsed in the context of your quest to uncover and publicize for purposes of harassment my personally identifiable information?

It doesn't matter how "great" your legal counsel is when you have publicly issued multiple written confessions to such illegal and reprehensible acts. 

There is a right to anonymous speech precisely because whistleblowers need to be able to call (for the benefit of the greater public good) out scams like Dash's Instamine, self-enriching Emission Reduction, and Masternode High Yield Investment Product without being discouraged by possibility of retaliatory actions from those who don't like their scam being exposed and discussed.

Many people don't want the things they say online to be connected with their offline identities. They may be concerned about political or economic retribution, harassment, or even threats to their lives. Whistleblowers report news that companies and governments would prefer to suppress; human rights workers struggle against repressive governments; parents try to create a safe way for children to explore; victims of domestic violence attempt to rebuild their lives where abusers cannot follow.

Instead of using their true names to communicate, these people choose to speak using pseudonyms (assumed names) or anonymously (no name at all). For these individuals and the organizations that support them, secure anonymity is critical. It may literally save lives.

Anonymous communications have an important place in our political and social discourse. The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that the right to anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment. A frequently cited 1995 Supreme Court ruling in McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission reads:

"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. . . . It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation . . . at the hand of an intolerant society."


The tradition of anonymous speech is older than the United States. Founders Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay wrote the Federalist Papers under the pseudonym "Publius " and "the Federal Farmer" spoke up in rebuttal. The US Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized rights to speak anonymously derived from the First Amendment.

The right to anonymous speech is also protected well beyond the printed page. Thus in 2002 the Supreme Court struck down a law requiring proselytizers to register their true names with the Mayor's office before going door-to-door.

These long-standing rights to anonymity and the protections it affords are critically important for the Internet. As the Supreme Court has recognized the Internet offers a new and powerful democratic forum in which anyone can become a "pamphleteer" or "a town crier with a voice that resonates farther than it could from any soapbox."

The Electronic Frontier Foundation has been involved in the fight to protect the rights of anonymous speakers online. As one court observed in a case handled by EFF along with the ACLU of Washington, "[T]he free exchange of ideas on the Internet is driven in large part by the ability of Internet users to communicate anonymously."

You can choose to shoot the messenger as much as you like, but you are then focusing on the wrong things instead of the problems with Dash at hand.

People don't really like the truth when it is critical of them or the things they cherish. They would rather come up with reasons why someone else is wrong for being critical or conclude that "these things" don't matter instead of opening their minds, looking at the bigger picture and objectively acknowledging that things are not so great.

To sum things up: There is a problem with the Dash community that needs addressing - it is sexist, misogynistic, thuggish, threatening, hostile, defensive, thin-skinned, vocally inept, seriously lacking in passion and enthusiasm and seems to rely on the Core Team and the treasury to fix all its problems

Before you go off on the offensive about how Dash is like all other communities, we only need to see some stats to show how uninviting Dash is to outsiders:

See the total subscribers tab: http://redditmetrics.com/r/litecoin#compare=dashpay+cardano+monero+IOTA

Basically, Dash struggles to pull subscribers to its subreddit while other crypto communities subscription numbers have sky rocketed, increasing to significant highs.

Now, I know what some of you are going to say: "But we're not trying to attract people who are already in to crypto, the nerds and the geeks and the libertarians. We're aiming for mainstream adoption, Joe and Jospephine public!"

Well, let me point something out you knuckleheads - r/cryptocurrency subscribers went up from 25k at the start of 2017 to over half a million as of today - these ARE the people from outside the cryptocommunities that we were and should still be aiming to attract to Dash - there are at least some of your Joe's and Josephine's stuck in that no-mans land, just waiting to be rescued by a project they can get on board with - too many are sidestepping Dash for other projects.

If the Dash community were sports fans on a match day, they would be some of the worst hooligans in the league.

Part of the problem is how the Dash community is 'structured'. When people work for the Dash Core Club they tend to stop contributing their thoughts and opinions, that raw energy, to the community. I'm not saying that they are not passionate about Dash and don't focus that passion into their work, but the passion and social interactions that the rest of the community can thrive upon is no longer there. They can't relax around the rest of the community and say how they really feel. It's like there is a wall between those who work in the Centralized Core Club and rest of the community. That doesn't feel like a real community to me - it feels like one that is divided!

This is a shame for obvious reasons - but mainly because the Dash Core Club members and the wider community don't get to converse freely or fluidly with each other and this takes away a big element of the decentralization and the shared ideas/discussions that are found in abundance with other crypto communities.

With the exception of around lavishly compensated 10-15 core contributors (well done to you), who are generally found on the Dash Discord, here, or writing Dash articles, the Dash community on the whole is seriously lacking enthusiasm.

The recent giant spike in /r/dashpay users is obviously artificial and not legitimate organic growth.  There is no way it really has ~2,000 people online but only a sparse smattering of occasional comments.  Paying for fake traffic is an admission that Dash lacks real community involvement and needs to astroturf with fake users.


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you're clearly a Monero paidshill and such a hyprocrite, you just constantly spew lies and bs. you obviously have no life and no loved ones otherwise you'd be making better use of your time. (patiently) waiting for the day you drop dead  Grin now GTFO and do something useful with your life!
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February 27, 2018, 12:44:35 AM

Hi Devs, I was interested in the project, I would like to know if you have the baunt program. Thank you
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February 27, 2018, 12:56:30 AM

“Dash’s” Sprint Forward: Why I’m Intrigued

https://medium.com/@theurbanejournalist/dashs-sprint-forward-why-i-m-intrigued-bf483d526575

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You can choose to shoot the messenger as much as you like, but you are then focusing on the wrong things instead of the problems with Dash at hand.

People don't really like the truth when it is critical of them or the things they cherish. They would rather come up with reasons why someone else is wrong for being critical or conclude that "these things" don't matter instead of opening their minds, looking at the bigger picture and objectively acknowledging that things are not so great.

To sum things up: There is a problem with the Dash community that needs addressing - it is sexist, misogynistic, thuggish, threatening, hostile, defensive, thin-skinned, vocally inept, seriously lacking in passion and enthusiasm and seems to rely on the Core Team and the treasury to fix all its problems

Before you go off on the offensive about how Dash is like all other communities, we only need to see some stats to show how uninviting Dash is to outsiders:

See the total subscribers tab: http://redditmetrics.com/r/litecoin#compare=dashpay+cardano+monero+IOTA

Basically, Dash struggles to pull subscribers to its subreddit while other crypto communities subscription numbers have sky rocketed, increasing to significant highs.

you're clearly a Monero paidshill and such a hyprocrite, you just constantly spew lies and bs. you obviously have no life and no loved ones otherwise you'd be making better use of your time. (patiently) waiting for the day you drop dead  Grin now GTFO and do something useful with your life!


Thank you for the perfect demonstration of my point about the Dash community shooting the messenger instead of focusing on the problems with Dash.

This is why Amanda left what Peter Todd famously referred to as the Dash Cargo Cult:

"bamboo" Evolusham vaporware

DASH  Embarrassed

When your cargo cult's Big Man high priest Evan Duffield failed to deliver the promised cargo of Evolution, the cult started breaking up.

Anthropology 101.

Cargo cults were typically created by individual leaders, or big men in the Melanesian culture, and it is not at all clear if these leaders were sincere, or were simply running scams on gullible populations.

Novelist Chinua Achebe in his 1984 book The Trouble with Nigeria criticized what he called the "cargo cult mentality" of the rulers of many developing countries who issued lofty proclamations about the future of their countries but fail to exert the necessary effort to bring about those improvements.

After more than two years of zero Evolution progress, Amanda gave up on Dash Core Club's roadmap being anything more than wishful thinking cult doctrine.

It's now abundantly clear Evolution is nothing more than a failed prophecy of the Dash cargo cult's priest caste.  All the bamboo runways in the world can't make up for the lack of Evolution DIPs, whitepapers, code, peer review, etc.


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Reflections on the 5th Dash Caracas Conference.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/80anzn/reflections_on_the_5th_dash_caracas_conference/


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February 27, 2018, 02:34:57 AM

Icebreaker.... Holy smokes man. Your seriously losing your mind. Lay off the crack pipe... Good grief.
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How Much of One’s Time Should Be Spent Counter-Trolling?

https://www.dashforcenews.com/much-ones-time-spent-counter-trolling/

Maybe its time to stop feeding the troll
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How Much of One’s Time Should Be Spent Counter-Trolling?

https://www.dashforcenews.com/much-ones-time-spent-counter-trolling/

Maybe its time to stop feeding the troll

I've engaged this individual for my own personal amusement...I do apologize to the community as there are many that don't find it amusing.  Thanks afbitcoins.  


On to some positive news...99% of the DASH treasury was used this month....and our Masternode count has nearly matched our ATH.  
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February 28, 2018, 10:25:12 AM

HashChain Technology Votes to Expand Dash Cryptocurrency Growth Opportunities Globally

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February 28, 2018, 10:32:09 AM

Dash coin has more one use case after getting listed as one of the payment methods for mobile charging by bitrefill. Every positive development which expands its usage is welcomed and has its importance. Its current price with lot of on going development looks again in very good range to buy back before the return of bull in altcoins markets. Steady progress is always result oriented in long term's perspective.

 
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Could this really compete with ripple and some other nice projects which have nearly the same idea?

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Could this really compete with ripple and some other nice projects which have nearly the same idea?

Dash has no competition with Ripple because it has unique tech and on other side Ripple is truly centralized coin which has no future soon it will disappear. I believe Dash will take over very soon at the moment it is undervalued but growing rapidly.

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Dash Core is now legally owned by the Dash decentralized autonomous organization (DAO), a cryptocurrency first.

Unlike many other top cryptocurrency projects, Dash is a DAO, an organized and self-funding entity that nonetheless has no central authority and is open to participation from anyone. To solidify this theory in practice, Dash Core Group, the legal entity for Dash’s development team, set up a legal structure representing the network, which now owns Dash Core Group.

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Dash Core Group Becomes First Legally DAO-Owned Entity


Dash Core is now legally owned by the Dash decentralized autonomous organization (DAO), a cryptocurrency first.

Unlike many other top cryptocurrency projects, Dash is a DAO, an organized and self-funding entity that nonetheless has no central authority and is open to participation from anyone. To solidify this theory in practice, Dash Core Group, the legal entity for Dash’s development team, set up a legal structure representing the network, which now owns Dash Core Group. According to Dash Core CEO Ryan Taylor, this is a first, and solves many issues involving trust of a centralized party:


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February 28, 2018, 07:41:09 PM

Dash only grows. I invested some of my investment in Dash, the second part of the Safinus project. I also want to buy bitcoin
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Dash only grows. I invested some of my investment in Dash, the second part of the Safinus project. I also want to buy bitcoin

Does that mean you invested in Dash through the Safinus project ? And if so are you in full control over your Dash tokens ? Or are the Dash tokens (private keys) in control by a third party ?
(a portfolio manager for example ?).

Personally i would be carefull with projects, which do not let investors have full control over their cryptocurrencies......

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March 01, 2018, 06:49:49 AM

How Much of One’s Time Should Be Spent Belligerently Doxing Whistleblowers?



https://www.dashspamforcenews.com/much-ones-time-spent-doxing-whistleblowers

Maybe its time to stop doxing and threatening retribution as a way to discourage discussion of Dash's Instamine, centralization, bad/outdated technology, cargo cult community, and snake-oil marketing?

I've engaged this individual for my own personal amusement...I do apologize to the community as there are many that don't find it amusing.  Thanks afbitcoins.  


On to some positive news...99% of the DASH treasury was used to fund rain panchos, Max Keiser RVs, and scams like GeneralBytes' ATM this month....and our Masternode Ponzi scheme victim count has nearly matched our ATH.  


I appreciate your efforts bigrcanada, it was just as much a note to myself as to others. But some good points from Amanda to try and remember.

I doubt BigR bothered to click through to the article you linked.  He's not really into reading comprehension, much less changing behavior based on learning from mistakes.  Misconduct is literally a point of pride for him.

Thanks for bringing up that article; Amanda's best analysis is this bit:

Bigrcanada1 even goes so far as to try to draw attention to iCEBREAKER himself. Bigrcanada1 tries to call him out and “make him fear doxing and subsequent retribution” in the hopes that this will dis-incentivize iCEBREAKER from reporting facts about Dash's fraudulent Instamine and governance theater in the future.

On the whole, retaliating against whistleblowers doesn’t fix Dash's problem of being exiled from the Top 10 coins. It doesn’t help Evolution be less than 2.5 years behind schedule. It doesn’t write DIPs, or get any new whitepapers or code the benefit of peer review.

It’s ugly thuggery, and that’s all it is.

If there were such a person as Ryan Taylor, CEO of Dash and if I were that person (which I’m not), my instruction to my employees would be this:

“Spend your time belligerently doxing and stalking for Dash as frequently as you think it wise to spend your time drinking strong whiskey.”

Because everyone likes a guy who can cut loose and have some fun at the right times. But no one likes a threatening, potentially violent drunk.


DashHoles like BigR are furiously angry and unbearably bitter because their project is *STILL* based on Bitcoin v12, which is ancient history, while Bitcoin just released v16.

That puts Dash at an incredible 4 major releases behind Bitcoin Core, and it is highly unlikely Dash Core will ever be able to catch up to (much less overtake) the moving goalpost that is Bitcoin Core's latest release.


No wonder the temptation to indulge in doxing+retribution is too strong to resist.

While Dash fumbles around funding scams like the GeneralByes ATM fiasco, other coins knock out actual concrete deliverables.

Decred is doing everything Dash should have done years ago. There's no excuse for Dash losing its lead to projects that actually deliver on their roadmaps.

I'll bet 1BTC that Decred delivers these new features before the first real transaction on Evolution.  Grin

Decred has continued with its approach of generating deliverables before hyping them, despite many other projects in the space continuing to relentlessly hype their work far in advance of generating deliverables or focusing on exchange listings in lieu of doing any substantive work.

Politeia Voting
The core of our proposal system, Politeia, was recently completed, and we are adding support for voting. Politeia can be described succinctly as a git repository that is timestamped by the Decred chain and uses cryptographic attribution to create accountability for all participants - users and admins alike. Having superior accountability means that proposals, comments, votes and admin actions in Politeia will not suffer from the opaque censorship that has become increasingly common amongst many major tech companies and their websites. Once voting support is complete, Politeia will be tested on testnet and then deployed on mainnet. After Politeia is up on mainnet, we will use it to discuss and fund new proposals, set budgets and to make ongoing payments with stakeholder approval. It is worth noting that voting on Politeia will be restricted to stakeholders whose tickets are live in the ticket pool at the time a vote is called for a given proposal.

Decentralized Control of Funds
The final step to complete the decentralization of our dev org will be decentralizing control of its funds. Prior to formal control being decentralized, disbursements of funds will be subject to “soft” decision making via Politeia. Rather than taking the approach used in Ethereum, which involves 100s or 1000s of lines of Solidity code, we will create a succinct smart contract that allows Decred stakeholders to vote on the disbursements on-chain and release the funds.

Decentralized Autonomous Entities
The method for decentralizing control of the dev org funds will be generalized to support user-created entities that we refer to as decentralized autonomous entities (“DAEs”). Since the main distinguishing point of a corporate entity relative to an individual is ownership and control of funds and assets, we will use decentralized control of funds as the basis for DAEs within Decred. We will focus less on the speculative component of tokenization and more on the fundamental mechanics of making it work since tokenization creates several serious scalability issues, which have led to substantial congestion on the Ethereum chain. In short, a DAE will be comprised of a simple on-chain smart contract that delegates control over funds in the contract to a group of individuals.


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