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IB isnt even trying, he copy paste from this....

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February 25, 2018, 06:47:12 AM
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To the annoying XMR shill who is obviously funded as no one would troll on daily basis for a few years - you are desperate

Is IB really a closet dash investor, where is the evidence?

We are working on ascertaining that at the moment.  But IB most certainly has funds invested in Masternodes....most of the shtick is part of a bigger strategy of market manipulation.  Taking a page right out of the 2016 Russian manipulation of the US elections disruption strategy book... IB and associates are using the same tactics... To devide and disrupt the community.
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To the annoying XMR shill who is obviously funded as no one would troll on daily basis for a few years - you are desperate

Is IB really a closet dash investor, where is the evidence?

We are working on ascertaining that at the moment.  But IB most certainly has funds invested in Masternodes....most of the shtick is part of a bigger strategy of market manipulation.  Taking a page right out of the 2016 Russian manipulation of the US elections disruption strategy book... IB and associates are using the same tactics... To devide and disrupt the community.

Ok, I'll be following this with interest, exposing IB as being nothing more than a hypocritical self interested Dash lover might be the single most shocking revelation this forum has seen since anonymint posted snaps of his testicles. Watching!
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February 25, 2018, 10:28:31 PM

The thing is that [Evan Duffield] promises a lot and doesn't deliver.

How will Evolution turn out? Stealth development, no public testing, no peer review, nothing.

Will he "change his mind" about certain aspects as well?

The cool wallet features will probably stay. It's nice and shiny. But will he deliver on default instant mixing? And if so, when?
Will it work? Will is keep working when stress tested by millions of users? Is it safe to sue? No attack vectors on the anonymity side?

FYI: there are coins out there that already have default instant mixing that do have some "thumbs up" from reputable bitcoin/crypto people

Aha? Tell me only ONE example please.

Only thing a can rembember that isn't ready today is Two-factor authentication, but that has no priority.

You were given 4 examples on the previous page. How did you miss that?  Roll Eyes

Two-factor authentication is the only one you can remember? What happened to Masternode blinding? github link below goes 404. Blinding was never implemented despite being "working", and despite Evan's promises that it was only being delayed due to mobile wallets  Roll Eyes

Masternode blinding is working   Grin

It's super fast, secure and should reduce mixing time by 80%+

https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/commits/masternode-blinding

There is NO issue with Darksend, in fact the new masternode blinding system is quite impressive.

We're going to delay the implementation of masternode blinding because there's two separate mobile wallets that are in the process of implementing Darksend and the reference implementation needs to be super stable during this period of time. Once we have the mobile wallets done (which should have Darksend and InstantX support) we can move back to improving Darksend.

The new masternode blinding system is SO impressive he couldn't figure out how to implement it  Roll Eyes

Instead, Evan decided to just lie to everyone that Masternode blinding is delayed due to excuses, then never speak about it again.

This pattern of Announce Shiny New Feature ---> Pump ----> Abandon New Feature ---> Repeat is reprehensible and all the noobs suffering from FOMO should know this.

Dash even pays shills to pump its latest Announced-But-Not-Implemented features, despite those features never being finished.

But don't take my word for it.  This guy explains it just as well.

Whatever happened to 2fa being implemented on the protocol level?

And how did this 'decentralized' voting mechanism get a higher priority than masternode blinding?

That's concerning for a couple reasons. The first being the horrendous and suspicious launch circumstances of the coin and the resulting awful coin distribution, limiting the privacy capabilities of the coin, but also that these large holders basically can change the path of the coin if just two or three of them decide to make a change using the voting system under the pretense of 'community consensus'. Also concerning is that the first couple initiatives passed are to put even more coins in the hands of the few, and then to create the OTC system allowing them to unload them without (hopefully) wrecking their sell price.



^That was 2.5 years ago.  Dash failed to release v13 and masternode blinding, so PrivateSend continues to be slow/buggy/expensive.

Bitcoin Core is on v15, which means Dash is now 3 major releases behind.  That difference represents 1000s of years of developer time in the form of new features, optimizations, bug fixes, etc.

Ironically, if Dash already had masternode blinding then it wouldn't have suffered from the critical zero-day bug that required InstantSend to be disabled for 3 months (not the quick fix we were originally told) and put v13 development so far behind it had to be merged with Evolution.

No wonder Amanda Johnson doesn't believe a word of the Dash Evolution roadmap.  She's smart enough to tell when a carrot like Evolution is being dangled in front of greedy, gullible Dash bagholders:



Given the cynicism of that post from a month ago, I'm not surprised Amanda is now Officially breaking up with Dash and wants to start having relationships with other coins.

What I didn't anticipate is how heartbroken poor NiburuHybrid is now.  I won't quote his entire lengthy, forlorn 'please-give-us-another-chance' love letter to Amanda, but the most cringe-inducing parts should be discussed here on the Dash [ANN] thread.


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Quote from: Amanda_B_Johnson
I assumed the most fertile ground for spreading DASH awareness was among the crypto un-initiated. I thought that DASH would do well to try to get its name out there to newbs in the midst of growing cryptocurrency awareness.

I was wrong.

I was mistaken in believing that the un-initiated would at least be interested to talk about DASH pre-Evolution.

Because of this, I have cancelled my contract with PMBC (the PR firm whom I'd hired with treasury funds these last three months) and am currently developing a new YouTube series which covers the whole of the cryptosphere, set to launch on March 6. (Yeah!)

The series will live on the Amanda B. Johnson YouTube channel (that’s where The Daily Decrypt archive lives, by the way). I will naturally not ask for any treasury funds for this project, as it will not be DASH-specific.

I feel so deflated reading this.

I'm a bit frustrated by this as you had media opportunities I presented to you as a Dash spokesperson.

With your consent I went out my way to setup guest interviews for you as a Dash spokesperson. I presented some Dashtastic opportunities for you.

Your essentially departing from Dash, to pursue self interest as an independent youtuber. That is your personal right and choice. But I don't mind publicly expressing that I don't like this Amanda as I think you're a great speaker and ambassador for Dash and I don't want the community to lose you.

If you don't want to represent Dash anymore then you should just come out and say it directly. If that isn't the case (I hope) then you should be focussing your efforts to fight for it, not walk away from it.

I want you to be at the finish line with me. My door is always open to you. I'm sincerely asking you to reconsider out of respect of all the great work you have done for Dash. You know how to reach me if you want to talk. I'm sure we can work something out. Please think about it and let's carry the Dash flag together.

No pressure. All I'm going to say is.......I'm not going to let you walk away without fighting for you to stay.

Amanda B. Johnson + Mark 'Mr Hustle' Mason = Dream Team

It sucks to lose your Dash Treasure, but don't get your dashed hopes up about Amanda coming back to her PaidShill role.

Sorry Mark, but it sounds like she's just not that into you.

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To the annoying XMR shill who is obviously funded as no one would troll on daily basis for a few years - you are desperate

Is IB really a closet dash investor, where is the evidence?

We are working on ascertaining that at the moment.  But IB most certainly has funds invested in Masternodes....most of the shtick is part of a bigger strategy of market manipulation.  Taking a page right out of the 2016 Russian manipulation of the US elections disruption strategy book... IB and associates are using the same tactics... To devide and disrupt the community.

Ok, I'll be following this with interest, exposing IB as being nothing more than a hypocritical self interested Dash lover might be the single most shocking revelation this forum has seen since anonymint posted snaps of his testicles. Watching!

he does not realise that he is not fudding. He is comparing between DASH and BTC which gives an idea that dash can replace BTC.
 
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February 26, 2018, 12:53:47 AM

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February 26, 2018, 01:00:00 AM

Lol you guys.  Still, consistently seeing Dash on the front page.  APR sort of reminds me of DASH, have you guys checked them out.  Whenever someone enters the discord they say hello!   https://discord.gg/qedu8YT

Gotta love it.
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February 26, 2018, 01:30:10 PM



Dash Added To deVere Group’s Crypto Trading App


http://blocktribune.com/ripple-dash-added-devere-groups-crypto-trading-app/

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February 26, 2018, 09:45:55 PM

Dash aims to be the cryptocurrency that works like real money

https://www.euromoney.com/article/b1735kh9l92byw/dash-aims-to-be-the-cryptocurrency-that-works-like-real-money

This article also reveals additional info on Dash Evolution usage (at least it is additional info to me) :

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A buyer will land on the checkout page and see the ‘pay with Dash’ button. He or she enters their username and their phone buzzes with a request asking for a Dash payment authorization.
You authorize it with your thumb on the phone. This vastly reduces fraud for buyers

This shows a strong connection between Dash Evolution and mobile phones, specially with regards to authentication.
I think it can be viewed as some form of Google Authenticator tool, build in future Dash apps on Android and iOS operating systems.
 
Security-wise a good direction.

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February 27, 2018, 12:12:15 AM

https://cryptoizzy.blogspot.ca/2018/02/monero-dashing-ahead.html

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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February 27, 2018, 12:17:07 AM

Buddy ol pal...here is the problem,.  

I, unlike you, have no reason to hide my identity Mr IB.  I have nothing to fear because I try to be respectful in my conduct even if I disagree with people.  I travel the world promoting my region, our wines and the belief that this ecosystem of crypto currencies in general have the power to better our society.  I'm constantly aware that my actions matter...that those of my peers are in fact listening and certainly I do not go out of my way to incite hate and to body shame people and spread toxicity and more far more importantly engage in psychological abuse of an entire community.

And in there lies your dilemma, you have cultivated a legion of countless enemies in your abusive campaign of hate  in the false belief that this ecosystem provided you with anonymity.  You and no one else have created the predicament you face.  Certainly you weren't of the belief that you had some god given right to molest, harass and abuse a whole community for years with out some thought that eventually there would be a breaking point, did you?!?  

Did you not consider that in a ecosystem of cyber punks and those on our society's fringe, now empowered with new found millions of dollars wouldn't have the means to sniff you out?!?  For a man of your claimed intelligence...that's seems extremely careless.

 I'm sure the "high" powered lawyers you claim to know would certainly have advised you against engaging in abusive and personal attacks on individuals and whole communities and would have advised you that such behavior could result in unwanted consequences.

See IB,  I'm not the one you should be concerned about ...and I too have great legal counsel and understand that my words matter, maybe you should be more cognizant of that in your conduct.  

...you reap what you sow!

You are still failing to account for the vast difference between a public figure and a private individual.  Are you even capable of understanding what those words mean, much less comprehending how they may be parsed in the context of your quest to uncover and publicize for purposes of harassment my personally identifiable information?

It doesn't matter how "great" your legal counsel is when you have publicly issued multiple written confessions to such illegal and reprehensible acts. 

There is a right to anonymous speech precisely because whistleblowers need to be able to call (for the benefit of the greater public good) out scams like Dash's Instamine, self-enriching Emission Reduction, and Masternode High Yield Investment Product without being discouraged by possibility of retaliatory actions from those who don't like their scam being exposed and discussed.

Many people don't want the things they say online to be connected with their offline identities. They may be concerned about political or economic retribution, harassment, or even threats to their lives. Whistleblowers report news that companies and governments would prefer to suppress; human rights workers struggle against repressive governments; parents try to create a safe way for children to explore; victims of domestic violence attempt to rebuild their lives where abusers cannot follow.

Instead of using their true names to communicate, these people choose to speak using pseudonyms (assumed names) or anonymously (no name at all). For these individuals and the organizations that support them, secure anonymity is critical. It may literally save lives.

Anonymous communications have an important place in our political and social discourse. The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that the right to anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment. A frequently cited 1995 Supreme Court ruling in McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission reads:

"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. . . . It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation . . . at the hand of an intolerant society."


The tradition of anonymous speech is older than the United States. Founders Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay wrote the Federalist Papers under the pseudonym "Publius " and "the Federal Farmer" spoke up in rebuttal. The US Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized rights to speak anonymously derived from the First Amendment.

The right to anonymous speech is also protected well beyond the printed page. Thus in 2002 the Supreme Court struck down a law requiring proselytizers to register their true names with the Mayor's office before going door-to-door.

These long-standing rights to anonymity and the protections it affords are critically important for the Internet. As the Supreme Court has recognized the Internet offers a new and powerful democratic forum in which anyone can become a "pamphleteer" or "a town crier with a voice that resonates farther than it could from any soapbox."

The Electronic Frontier Foundation has been involved in the fight to protect the rights of anonymous speakers online. As one court observed in a case handled by EFF along with the ACLU of Washington, "[T]he free exchange of ideas on the Internet is driven in large part by the ability of Internet users to communicate anonymously."

You can choose to shoot the messenger as much as you like, but you are then focusing on the wrong things instead of the problems with Dash at hand.

People don't really like the truth when it is critical of them or the things they cherish. They would rather come up with reasons why someone else is wrong for being critical or conclude that "these things" don't matter instead of opening their minds, looking at the bigger picture and objectively acknowledging that things are not so great.

To sum things up: There is a problem with the Dash community that needs addressing - it is sexist, misogynistic, thuggish, threatening, hostile, defensive, thin-skinned, vocally inept, seriously lacking in passion and enthusiasm and seems to rely on the Core Team and the treasury to fix all its problems

Before you go off on the offensive about how Dash is like all other communities, we only need to see some stats to show how uninviting Dash is to outsiders:

See the total subscribers tab: http://redditmetrics.com/r/litecoin#compare=dashpay+cardano+monero+IOTA

Basically, Dash struggles to pull subscribers to its subreddit while other crypto communities subscription numbers have sky rocketed, increasing to significant highs.

Now, I know what some of you are going to say: "But we're not trying to attract people who are already in to crypto, the nerds and the geeks and the libertarians. We're aiming for mainstream adoption, Joe and Jospephine public!"

Well, let me point something out you knuckleheads - r/cryptocurrency subscribers went up from 25k at the start of 2017 to over half a million as of today - these ARE the people from outside the cryptocommunities that we were and should still be aiming to attract to Dash - there are at least some of your Joe's and Josephine's stuck in that no-mans land, just waiting to be rescued by a project they can get on board with - too many are sidestepping Dash for other projects.

If the Dash community were sports fans on a match day, they would be some of the worst hooligans in the league.

Part of the problem is how the Dash community is 'structured'. When people work for the Dash Core Club they tend to stop contributing their thoughts and opinions, that raw energy, to the community. I'm not saying that they are not passionate about Dash and don't focus that passion into their work, but the passion and social interactions that the rest of the community can thrive upon is no longer there. They can't relax around the rest of the community and say how they really feel. It's like there is a wall between those who work in the Centralized Core Club and rest of the community. That doesn't feel like a real community to me - it feels like one that is divided!

This is a shame for obvious reasons - but mainly because the Dash Core Club members and the wider community don't get to converse freely or fluidly with each other and this takes away a big element of the decentralization and the shared ideas/discussions that are found in abundance with other crypto communities.

With the exception of around lavishly compensated 10-15 core contributors (well done to you), who are generally found on the Dash Discord, here, or writing Dash articles, the Dash community on the whole is seriously lacking enthusiasm.

The recent giant spike in /r/dashpay users is obviously artificial and not legitimate organic growth.  There is no way it really has ~2,000 people online but only a sparse smattering of occasional comments.  Paying for fake traffic is an admission that Dash lacks real community involvement and needs to astroturf with fake users.


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you're clearly a Monero paidshill and such a hyprocrite, you just constantly spew lies and bs. you obviously have no life and no loved ones otherwise you'd be making better use of your time. (patiently) waiting for the day you drop dead  Grin now GTFO and do something useful with your life!
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Hi Devs, I was interested in the project, I would like to know if you have the baunt program. Thank you
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“Dash’s” Sprint Forward: Why I’m Intrigued

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You can choose to shoot the messenger as much as you like, but you are then focusing on the wrong things instead of the problems with Dash at hand.

People don't really like the truth when it is critical of them or the things they cherish. They would rather come up with reasons why someone else is wrong for being critical or conclude that "these things" don't matter instead of opening their minds, looking at the bigger picture and objectively acknowledging that things are not so great.

To sum things up: There is a problem with the Dash community that needs addressing - it is sexist, misogynistic, thuggish, threatening, hostile, defensive, thin-skinned, vocally inept, seriously lacking in passion and enthusiasm and seems to rely on the Core Team and the treasury to fix all its problems

Before you go off on the offensive about how Dash is like all other communities, we only need to see some stats to show how uninviting Dash is to outsiders:

See the total subscribers tab: http://redditmetrics.com/r/litecoin#compare=dashpay+cardano+monero+IOTA

Basically, Dash struggles to pull subscribers to its subreddit while other crypto communities subscription numbers have sky rocketed, increasing to significant highs.

you're clearly a Monero paidshill and such a hyprocrite, you just constantly spew lies and bs. you obviously have no life and no loved ones otherwise you'd be making better use of your time. (patiently) waiting for the day you drop dead  Grin now GTFO and do something useful with your life!


Thank you for the perfect demonstration of my point about the Dash community shooting the messenger instead of focusing on the problems with Dash.

This is why Amanda left what Peter Todd famously referred to as the Dash Cargo Cult:

"bamboo" Evolusham vaporware

DASH  Embarrassed

When your cargo cult's Big Man high priest Evan Duffield failed to deliver the promised cargo of Evolution, the cult started breaking up.

Anthropology 101.

Cargo cults were typically created by individual leaders, or big men in the Melanesian culture, and it is not at all clear if these leaders were sincere, or were simply running scams on gullible populations.

Novelist Chinua Achebe in his 1984 book The Trouble with Nigeria criticized what he called the "cargo cult mentality" of the rulers of many developing countries who issued lofty proclamations about the future of their countries but fail to exert the necessary effort to bring about those improvements.

After more than two years of zero Evolution progress, Amanda gave up on Dash Core Club's roadmap being anything more than wishful thinking cult doctrine.

It's now abundantly clear Evolution is nothing more than a failed prophecy of the Dash cargo cult's priest caste.  All the bamboo runways in the world can't make up for the lack of Evolution DIPs, whitepapers, code, peer review, etc.


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February 27, 2018, 01:23:06 AM

Reflections on the 5th Dash Caracas Conference.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/80anzn/reflections_on_the_5th_dash_caracas_conference/


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February 27, 2018, 02:34:57 AM

Icebreaker.... Holy smokes man. Your seriously losing your mind. Lay off the crack pipe... Good grief.
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February 27, 2018, 10:38:21 AM

How Much of One’s Time Should Be Spent Counter-Trolling?

https://www.dashforcenews.com/much-ones-time-spent-counter-trolling/

Maybe its time to stop feeding the troll
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February 27, 2018, 03:08:11 PM

How Much of One’s Time Should Be Spent Counter-Trolling?

https://www.dashforcenews.com/much-ones-time-spent-counter-trolling/

Maybe its time to stop feeding the troll

I've engaged this individual for my own personal amusement...I do apologize to the community as there are many that don't find it amusing.  Thanks afbitcoins.  


On to some positive news...99% of the DASH treasury was used this month....and our Masternode count has nearly matched our ATH.  
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