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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722507 times)
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December 23, 2016, 03:34:47 PM

Its a shame that monero is rising with bitcoin rising while dash a superior coin is being dumped like that ..we must have at least 20$ per dash price ! We are fighting above 11-12$ for months while monero is flying high without even a normal gui
"superior coin". Lol, that is debatable.
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December 23, 2016, 03:46:52 PM

Its a shame that monero is rising with bitcoin rising while dash a superior coin is being dumped like that ..we must have at least 20$ per dash price ! We are fighting above 11-12$ for months while monero is flying high without even a normal gui

Dash is not "superior", to any coin. This kind of language is Trollero childish nonsense.

We have different projects with different features, weakness and communities. And plenty to grow for everyone.
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December 23, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
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Its a shame that monero is rising with bitcoin rising while dash a superior coin is being dumped like that ..we must have at least 20$ per dash price ! We are fighting above 11-12$ for months while monero is flying high without even a normal gui
"superior coin". Lol, that is debatable.

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Monero was invited by hostess. Dash wasn't.

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December 23, 2016, 04:19:31 PM


We have a paper internally at RFC stage we should release next month that should explain it a lot better than me posting a few things here Smiley

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Thank you so much for taking the time to go into this level of detail here, Andy.  Your explanations are a model of how to communicate complicated software concepts for a general audience.

Perhaps they will help some of the passers-by in this thread to understand why Dash is on a completely different level from every single other "alt".

On a selfish level, I'm happy every time the price dips because I think it's the buying opportunity of a lifetime. Please, doubters, sell your Dash to me  Grin

Likewise.. to doubters sell your DASH to me too.!!! Smiley Happy to buy

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December 23, 2016, 04:38:03 PM

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December 23, 2016, 04:47:57 PM

Its a shame that monero is rising with bitcoin rising while dash a superior coin is being dumped like that ..we must have at least 20$ per dash price ! We are fighting above 11-12$ for months while monero is flying high without even a normal gui

The gui was out yesterday TBH. Anyway I'm sure both DASH and XMR will have adoption and higher prices.

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December 23, 2016, 06:13:54 PM

Its a shame that monero is rising with bitcoin rising while dash a superior coin is being dumped like that ..we must have at least 20$ per dash price ! We are fighting above 11-12$ for months while monero is flying high without even a normal gui
"superior coin". Lol, that is debatable.

According to CoinGecko's neutral ranking metrics, Dash fell behind XMR months ago and is still losing relative position due to new coins like ETC and ZEC.

Heh, just checked to see the latest scores (Dash=60, XMR=65) and found the Evan's Gate cargo cult token is now behind Dogecoin.

Behind Dogecoin. 

Dogecoin hasn't had any development since Oct 2015.

Just let that sink in for a moment.

Wow such superior


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December 23, 2016, 06:42:31 PM

I warned you guys when the price was around .0115. This coin is going to dump like crazy as BTC makes its next run up. Masternodes will be taken down, meaning that Dash will be dumped in increments of 1000. Please take my advice while you can still save most of your money.
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December 23, 2016, 07:16:44 PM

I warned you guys when the price was around .0115. This coin is going to dump like crazy as BTC makes its next run up. Masternodes will be taken down, meaning that Dash will be dumped in increments of 1000. Please take my advice while you can still save most of your money.

You did the right thing to warn the community about the double-edged sword nature of Masternodes w/r/t market supply and demand.

Of course the effect of Masternodes cuts boths ways; that's just basic physics (and economics is the physics of money).

Masternodes were explicitly designed to artificially lock up a huge percentage of the Dash supply in order to keep the price (which is determined at the margin) nicely pumped, so Evan The Instaminer can keep dumping his free coins at exorbitant profit.

A rational person will admit there is a downside to this scheme.  Obviously the farther you push a basketball underwater the more potential energy it accrues and the faster it will pop back up, just as the farther a pendulum swings in one direction the farther it must go in the other.

The Masternode Ponzi scheme only works so long as Masternode ROI is greater than ROI from just holding BTC or Monero.

In a bullish BTC+XMR market such as our current one, that logic halts, flips, and reverses.

The exaggerated demand for Dash produced by Masternodes undergoes a hideous transformation into excess supply, and the price unravels in a downward spiral as Masternode owners trample each other to death in a stampede for the very small and rapidly disappearing exit.

The more Dash are locked away in Masternodes, the more compounded and overwhelming this nasty inevitability becomes.


And we've all seen the endless 'ZOMG MASTERNODE ALL TIME HIGH' hype spam in this thread, which only advertises and emphasizes the huge tail risk looming over this cargo cult coin's addiction to growth.


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December 23, 2016, 07:28:25 PM

One thing that should be considered about the masternodes, they are far cheaper to run than a battery do ASICs. Paying 5 dollars a month on a cloud server vs spending 5-10c/KW in the states makes it very attractive. You also have to consider that when masternodes drop off that benefits other masternode operators as they receive more of the reward.

It also depends when you got into Dash. I got started in March 2014, so most of my coins were acquired in cheaper days. If I started now it would be buying mining equipment then masternodes.

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December 23, 2016, 07:44:02 PM

One thing that should be considered about the masternodes, they are far cheaper to run than a battery do ASICs. Paying 5 dollars a month on a cloud server vs spending 5-10c/KW in the states makes it very attractive. You also have to consider that when masternodes drop off that benefits other masternode operators as they receive more of the reward.

Masternodes are not comparable to ASICs.  You're conflating apples and orangutangs.

Why do we "have to consider" the trivially miniscule effect of masternode drop off, when the vast majority of them are run by Instamine beneficiaries who have a perverse incentive to keep the price pumped?

And let's remember we constantly are told (with HUGE GIANT GRAPHICS) to celebrate yet another Masternode number all time high.

I find your counterarguments purely theoretical and utterly lacking in practicality.  Rational people do not stop to pick up pennies when their movie theater is on fire; they race for the exits as their fight or flight survival instinct kicks in.


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December 23, 2016, 08:00:33 PM

Poor Icetroll .. after all this time still daily obsessively reading our ANN forum, still feeling emotionally compelled to make FUD posts that do not differ from his posts of two years ago
and still hoping Dash will crash and burn.

Be carefull Icetroll, get too much emotionally involved with us and you may risk a :



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December 23, 2016, 08:11:58 PM

so Evan The Instaminer can keep dumping his free coins at exorbitant profit

Sounds like an old, deep-rooted personal hatred.

Poor hateful Iceclown. Stomach ulcers ahead.
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December 23, 2016, 08:48:44 PM

Poor Icetroll .. after all this time still daily obsessively reading our ANN forum, still feeling emotionally compelled to make FUD posts that do not differ from his posts of two years ago and still hoping Dash will crash and burn.

so Evan The Instaminer can keep dumping his free coins at exorbitant profit

Sounds like an old, deep-rooted personal hatred.

Poor hateful Iceclown. Stomach ulcers ahead.

Ahh yes, there's the classic 'attack-the-attacker' knee-jerk reaction we expect from typical DashHoles.

Nice selective quoting.

But do you have any responsive reply to the main point of my post?

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The Masternode Ponzi scheme only works so long as Masternode ROI is greater than ROI from just holding BTC or Monero.

In a bullish BTC+XMR market such as our current one, that logic halts, flips, and reverses.

The exaggerated demand for Dash produced by Masternodes undergoes a hideous transformation into excess supply, and the price unravels in a downward spiral as Masternode owners trample each other to death in a stampede for the very small and rapidly disappearing exit.

The more Dash are locked away in Masternodes, the more compounded and overwhelming this nasty inevitability becomes.

Shall we take your silence on this topic as acceptance of my analysis?


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December 23, 2016, 09:17:28 PM

Come on, guys, don't argue. Both coins have their own great features and they are both a subject to heavy pump and dump. The charts are even back in sync now, lol. Maybe they are even manipulated by the same people.

The sad thing is that instead of changing the world their main use now is making whales richer at the expense of newbies.
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December 23, 2016, 09:27:00 PM

Come on, guys, don't argue. Both coins have their own great features and they are both a subject to heavy pump and dump. The charts are even back in sync now, lol. Maybe they are even manipulated by the same people.

The sad thing is that instead of changing the world their main use now is making whales richer at the expense of newbies.

Don't try to use accusations/implications of hostility to goad critics of Dash's Instamine, unstable Masternode Ponzi, etc. into self-censorship, unless you want this thread to be an echo chamber for cheerleaders and pumpers.

We are here to discuss, not "argue."  And I dispute your assertion that Dash has "great features."

Not sure what you mean by "charts are back in sync" unless you are referring to the fact Dash is once again falling below XMR parity.   Huh


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Information for newcomers:

We have been discussing the same topics over and over again the last 6206 pages and it looks like Icetroller, the captain of the trollero gang, needs more.

He really enjoys posting here in a daily basis writing exactly the same over and over (this is a legitimate lifestyle, why not?, we need to be kind with that Wink ). Every day, every month, every year and probably in the future. Always by our side.

Don't expect an answer from the regulars. We already talked about that. And we have a life.
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December 23, 2016, 10:55:14 PM

Rpietila pump was finally deliver into monero, that's why monero is above this one, because that guy was triying to pump monero since like a decade ago.
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December 23, 2016, 10:58:46 PM

Remember the most of ur money u make on altcoin shorts. Merry Xmas and let the poloniex orderbooks awash with blood.

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December 23, 2016, 11:01:03 PM

DASH, powered by trolls since 2014

Pointing out that Dash tied up in Masternodes represent a potential avalanche of surplus supply doesn't make anyone a "troll."  That's just a lame way to deflect criticism by attacking the critic rather than the critique.

Why are you abandoning DASH for ICONOMI?

Is it because Dash's price and CoinGecko ranking are falling below XMR's, or because Dash's development is falling behind Bitcoin in terms of RBF, CPFP, CLTV, SEGWIT, LN, CT, MAST, sidechains, etc.?


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