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[reflexmk]

What has been accomplished in such a small time frame for XC is simply staggering and what lies ahead is going to be a game changer. Why else do you see DRK tanking badly and XC rising up magnificently.

He may be a hyperbolic troll, but the point is valid.

No, not really. One time price momentum is not an indicator of anything.

I'm not talking about the price. You said it yourself, the tenets are roughly the same... And they're moving a lot faster with easier to enable features. It's just true. I'm as much a member of the Cult of Evan as anyone else, but it doesn't blind me to facts.

All the while I'm having nothing but weird-ass problems with the most recent client with zero debug.log entries to explain it... HAve a send pending for almost an hour now... Deducted, not on the network mempool...

WTF dude? You and maybe 5 other posters are the reason I read this thread since page 500 and now this? Forgot the FUNDAMENTALS? Who's the shitclone DEV?? What has he done other than copy and sugarcoat everything that is Evan's work? WHATS HIS NAME? WOW, you are the last person I expected to show a weakness, and YES, the maybes and the whatifs are wekness... wow, just wow. Please go ahead and dump your stash, be the SHEEP.

You're jumping to conclusions. I'm simply stating that not all the facts are rosy today. Did I say dump? No. Just that this current situation is not confidence-inspiring, so that's why people are dumping so hard.

Well, the weak ass fucktards can go ahead and dump, it's better for us and the coin, you and I both know it. Stay true to yourself, forget the whatifs and maybes, that's all I'm saying.

[oblox]

The amount of handholding required in this thread is absurd.

[brianbbad]

Headline: The death of Darkcoin?

^_^ No, nonexistent headline. It is not.

[Propulsion]

Evan really needs to communicate what's going on more effectively. Like every day. The near silence is not exactly reassuring.

he also needs to develop code and solve really hard problems that require concentration.

everyone here needs to man up and chilax.

It's not Evan's responsibility to reassure everyone every time the price dips.

So far XC has no proof of concept that it actually works. Instead, they have a rise of value of 94% on artificial promises. To everyone trying to day trade, buy low sell high.

Don't buy at 94% increase levels. Don't sell at 18% price decreases.

[stompix]

Evan really needs to communicate what's going on more effectively. Like every day. The near silence is not exactly reassuring.

And this is how you start a panic over nothing.I can hear the sheep preparing to dump because ... no obvious reasons but a period of silence.

[phzi]

DRK coiling hard on the 15-min/hourly. Should see a large directional break one way or the other in the next 30-60 minutes as the pattern continues to its apex.

Looks like a breakout downwards is more likely at this point.

Called it...  DRK heading down to a more reasonable valuation.  I'd say a good bottom target is somewhere around $5 over the next bit.

Masternodes are a faulty and horrible way to implement anonymous transactions.  This coin's ideas are fundamentally flawed.

And again... no source code?  SKETCHY.  Why anyone with half a brain is running this wallet is completely beyond me.

This coin is unique and doesn't have any competitors.

It's unique, in that it uses an absolutely horrible insecure means of anonymous transactions.  (And the dev can't even get masternodes working properly!)

Take a look at Monero - proper ring-signature-based anonymous spends that don't rely on centralized nodes.  And a hashing algorithm that actually makes some sense...  

X11 is a horrible idea from a security perspective - chained hashing with multiple algorithms is seriously insecure.  If a pre-image attack against any one of the 11 algorithms is found, then the entire X11 stack can be pre-imaged.  So basically, with every added algo in this chaining method, the PoW gets LESS secure.  Simply stupid.

You're right that DRK is unique and has no direct competitors - you have to have a pretty poor understanding of cryptography to implement something this bad.

[coinzcoinzcoinz]

I keep buying, loving it. Im starting to consider to offer drk to people willing to troll darkcoin so i can buy more cheap darkcoin.

[camosoul]

What has been accomplished in such a small time frame for XC is simply staggering and what lies ahead is going to be a game changer. Why else do you see DRK tanking badly and XC rising up magnificently.

He may be a hyperbolic troll, but the point is valid.

No, not really. One time price momentum is not an indicator of anything.

I'm not talking about the price. You said it yourself, the tenets are roughly the same... And they're moving a lot faster with easier to enable features. It's just true. I'm as much a member of the Cult of Evan as anyone else, but it doesn't blind me to facts.

All the while I'm having nothing but weird-ass problems with the most recent client with zero debug.log entries to explain it... HAve a send pending for almost an hour now... Deducted, not on the network mempool...

WTF dude? You and maybe 5 other posters are the reason I read this thread since page 500 and now this? Forgot the FUNDAMENTALS? Who's the shitclone DEV?? What has he done other than copy and sugarcoat everything that is Evan's work? WHATS HIS NAME? WOW, you are the last person I expected to show a weakness, and YES, the maybes and the whatifs are wekness... wow, just wow. Please go ahead and dump your stash, be the SHEEP.

You're jumping to conclusions. I'm simply stating that not all the facts are rosy today. Did I say dump? No. Just that this current situation is not confidence-inspiring, so that's why people are dumping so hard.

Well, the weak ass fucktards can go ahead and dump, it's better for us and the coin, you and I both know it. Stay true to yourself, forget the whatifs and maybes, that's all I'm saying.

If your life/greed depends on "to the moon" you really don't care about fundamentals; especially when, in your own words, they're nearly identical...

This is why I make such a big deal out of stupid people... They've got numbers far greater than our own. Even if I sold at $1.50, I'd still win huge... But, that's not the point.

If they shift paradigms so hard that they detach a retina, the stupid people love that shit. They want fire-and-forget masternodes even though network security is always a moving target... rollseyes. It goes all the way up to Heartbleed. It was known for half a decade, but nobody did anything... If someone sells them what they demand, it doesn't matter how stupid it is. The whole damn economy is built on selling dumb shit to dumb people who don't need it, but think they do because the seller told them so with an ad on TV... On sale! Save by buying something you don't need! I'll save a lot more by NOT BUYING IT.

Fundamentals? Stupid is the all-killing fundamental, and I'm seeing the tides turn in favor of the lemmings. It's not the price that concerns me. It's what the price means... The price is just a symptom of the illness...

[Kyune]

What has been accomplished in such a small time frame for XC is simply staggering and what lies ahead is going to be a game changer. Why else do you see DRK tanking badly and XC rising up magnificently.

He may be a hyperbolic troll, but the point is valid.

No, not really. One time price momentum is not an indicator of anything.

I'm not talking about the price. You said it yourself, the tenets are roughly the same... And they're moving a lot faster with easier to enable features. It's just true. I'm as much a member of the Cult of Evan as anyone else, but it doesn't blind me to facts.

All the while I'm having nothing but weird-ass problems with the most recent client with zero debug.log entries to explain it... HAve a send pending for almost an hour now... Deducted, not on the network mempool...

From their thread:
May not answer all your questions, but from what I have gathered, the current implementation is mixer based off a masternode. Revision 2 will utilize decentralized nodes in the sense that any wallet can act as an xnode and will utilize a separate protocal which can be run over TOR. Would be cool if android wallets supported xnode functionality, though just being able to stake will be nice.

http://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26px5q/community_qa_week_1/
^ This is pure gibberish and tells you nothing.
The OP is pure gibberish and tells you nothing.


None of this makes any fucking sense to me. The people in the thread can't even address the question of how it works, lol. They are talking about something, and then just throwing the word paradigm liberally in every sentence.

I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. From what I can tell, it looks like they aren't moving any faster than Evan. You can already enable Darkcoin to work with TOR, so what is the difference other than PoW vs PoS?

I'm having the same problem looking under the hood.  I've been digging through the posts of the XC dev but the technical implementation of XC's anonymity features remain opaque to me so far.

[TanteStefana2]

bummer no bitcoins to buy darkcoins I miss out agine I bought to soon this sucks donkeyballs

I'm in the same boat, don't have the cash to buy bitcoins anyway, and even if I did, I wouldn't see them until next Tuesday, which is a lifetime in cryptos, so oh well...

[piyany]

The amount of handholding required in this thread is absurd.

 

This same panicked people posted threads few days ago how they gonna spend their millions when DRK beats LTC in market cap  

[coinzcoinzcoinz]

Evan really needs to communicate what's going on more effectively. Like every day. The near silence is not exactly reassuring.

And this is how you start a panic over nothing.I can hear the sheep preparing to dump because ... no obvious reasons but a period of silence.

Dont you understand? The more silence the better.

1) Price drops more for us to buy cheap coins
2) silence = dev working his ass off. Isnt this what we want?

[minerjav]

Evan really needs to communicate what's going on more effectively. Like every day. The near silence is not exactly reassuring.

he also needs to develop code and solve really hard problems that require concentration.

everyone here needs to man up and chilax.

It's not Evan's responsibility to reassure everyone every time the price dips.

So far XC has no proof of concept that it actually works. Instead, they have a rise of value of 94% on artificial promises. To everyone trying to day trade, buy low sell high.

Don't buy at 94% increase levels. Don't sell at 18% price decreases.

today trading will hurt many newbie traders.
If you are selling or buying just to follow trollers, you will have a heavy pain in few days. (I saw many times in mi life, even countries fall in huge problems just because people follow the trollers)

Please consider what you are doing and check the huge response to support this coin with tons of BTC that are coming.

I'm asking for authorization to release some news related our work and this coin.

[dotnetmin]

The amount of handholding required in this thread is absurd.

Playing whales don't care about a post. Evan today did clearly say how it will go on and said he will follow
The concers of community about softfork and said he will hardfork MN payments.

As somebody post before, a lot of people are scared about all the p&d dying coins in the past, but this is DRK
and with this solutions are on the way it will suceed.

People have to learn that DRK is a coin for bagholders

[phzi]

The whole damn economy is built on selling dumb shit to dumb people who don't need it [...].

Bang on description of what caused DarkCoin to reach this ridiculous unsupported over-valuation.

This same panicked people posted threads few days ago how they gonna spend their millions when DRK beats LTC in market cap  

I doubt that's ever going to happen (DRK passing LTC's market cap).  The fundamentals just aren't there.

People have to learn that DRK is a coin for that will be riddled with bagholders

Corrected for you.

[minerjav]

Evan really needs to communicate what's going on more effectively. Like every day. The near silence is not exactly reassuring.

And this is how you start a panic over nothing.I can hear the sheep preparing to dump because ... no obvious reasons but a period of silence.

Dont you understand? The more silence the better.

1) Price drops more for us to buy cheap coins
2) silence = dev working his ass off. Isnt this what we want?

looks good from an investor perspective, but more people in darkcoin community is better from a miner and user perspective.

I represent both sides (miner-trader)

[TanteStefana2]

If your life/greed depends on "to the moon" you really don't care about fundamentals; especially when, in your own words, they're nearly identical...

This is why I make such a big deal out of stupid people... They've got numbers far greater than our own. Even if I sold at $1.50, I'd still win huge... But, that's not the point.

If they shift paradigms so hard that they detach a retina, the stupid people love that shit. They want fire-and-forget masternodes even though network security is always a moving target... rollseyes. It goes all the way up to Heartbleed. It was known for half a decade, but nobody did anything... If someone sells them what they demand, it doesn't matter how stupid it is. The whole damn economy is built on selling dumb shit to dumb people who don't need it, but think they do because the seller told them so with an ad on TV... On sale! Save by buying something you don't need! I'll save a lot more by NOT BUYING IT.

Fundamentals? Stupid is the all-killing fundamental, and I'm seeing the tides turn in favor of the lemmings. It's not the price that concerns me. It's what the price means... The price is just a symptom of the illness...

I used to think, geepers, so many newb people getting conned here all the time.  But I think I've come to realize it's a bunch of con artists trying to out-con eachother to see who's left holding the bag, LOL.

[camosoul]

2) silence = dev working his ass off. Isnt this what we want?

My sheeple customers don't understand this, either... I'm a one-man operation. I don't have time to stroke hair and calm tempers; I'm actually DOING things... Should I just quit and talk to fearful/stupid people all day?

[TanteStefana2]

2) silence = dev working his ass off. Isnt this what we want?

My sheeple customers don't understand this, either... I'm a one-man operation. I don't have time to stroke hair and calm tempers; I'm actually DOING things... Should I just quit and talk to fearful/stupid people all day?

Oh come off it camosoul, you're sitting at your computer, just like I am, yacking away, ROFL    Whatcha doin?

[xibeijan]

The amount of handholding required in this thread is absurd.

+1

The dev needs to develop, not hold hands.  he gives plenty of updates.

DRK is the next wave and will do to BTC what LTC should have.

I hold my small portion of DRK long term.