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[camosoul]

I can't remember where I read this but I think Evan said that it's possible to prune the blockchain by some methodology - has this been talked afterwards at all?

Possible, but still a very bad idea. I doubt very strongly that he will do such a terrible thing.

[coins101]

thelonecruton

Looking good here - can use DS+ inputs (the other options work too), getting up to 7 rounds of darksend rounds showing in coin control, and the darksend status thingy isn't hanging around anymore, it whizzes through the process almost faster than my crappy eyes can see it.

Cand manually denominate any more but I don't seem to need to, the automatic process is happening pretty swiftly.


Good stuff!

Fresh from the test forum

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc4-testing.1830/page-31

Just gonna round around screaming and shouting. brb

[illodin]

I can't remember where I read this but I think Evan said that it's possible to prune the blockchain by some methodology - has this been talked afterwards at all?

Possible, but still a very bad idea. I doubt very strongly that he will do such a terrible thing.

Bitcoin has to do it at some point if they want to go mainstream. Am I missing something or why is it a bad thing?

[Minotaur26]

Hello, Guys, I received some donations for the work we have been doing for the new wallet GUI, I just wanted to say thank you very much I really appreciate the support. Thus, I have decided to pay it forward and send the donations I received to the development donations wallet. Can someone please post the development donations address I couldn't find it in the OP and thought it would be easier to ask?

pls check last sentence on page 1 where it says :

Software development donations: XpAy7r5RVdGLnnjWNKuB9EUDiJ5Tje9GZ8

pls have this verified first by the Darkcoin Team before using it.

Thank you, I don’t know how I missed it.

[qwizzie]

I can't remember where I read this but I think Evan said that it's possible to prune the blockchain by some methodology - has this been talked afterwards at all?

i remember some talk (not by Evan but here in this forum) about making the blockchain compacter (and thus smaller) with help of some compressing technology (kinda like winzip/winrar/cat&dat files technology) but i dont remember anything specific following from that.

[coins101]

I can't remember where I read this but I think Evan said that it's possible to prune the blockchain by some methodology - has this been talked afterwards at all?

Possible, but still a very bad idea. I doubt very strongly that he will do such a terrible thing.

Bitcoin has to do it at some point if they want to go mainstream. Am I missing something or why is it a bad thing?

7. Reclaiming Disk Space

Once the latest transaction in a coin is buried under enough blocks, the spent transactions before
it can be discarded to save disk space. To facilitate this without breaking the block's hash,
transactions are hashed in a Merkle Tree [7][2][5], with only the root included in the block's hash.
Old blocks can then be compacted by stubbing off branches of the tree. The interior hashes do
not need to be stored.

A block header with no transactions would be about 80 bytes. If we suppose blocks are
generated every 10 minutes, 80 bytes * 6 * 24 * 365 = 4.2MB per year. With computer systems
typically selling with 2GB of RAM as of 2008, and Moore's Law predicting current growth of
1.2GB per year, storage should not be a problem even if the block headers must be kept in
memory.

Satoshi

[splawik21]

here is to silence in the end...

“Silence is a source of Great Strength.”
― Lao Tzu

LOL this is good one. Keep throwung this on. I am getting stronger inside and mentaly

[bigrcanada]

DRK's value will be dependent on developing features beyond anonymity, which, as I alluded to, will not be a distinguishing feature from BTC with the advent of anonymizing wallets. I'd be interested to hear about some of these features that are on the development horizon.

Each master node is hosted on a server.

So far, over 800 decentralised servers, with proof of their readiness to serve.

What exactly do you want to host on such a decentralised platform?

Decentralised anonymous corporation stock exchange?
Decentralised markets? What do you fancy selling, or buying?
Decentralised exchanges?
Decentralised Enigma 2.0 messaging?
Decentralised etc, etc

   

Darkcoin will succeed and do just fine.  Can you buy coffee, groceries, clothing and services with cash?  Yes you can...we accept cash at our winery which is untraceable and decentralised.  We also accept Darkcoin at our winery.  Don't let those with an agenda provide you with FUD.  As long as cash exists, which is also anonymous...Darkcoin can and will succeed.  

[camosoul]

I can't remember where I read this but I think Evan said that it's possible to prune the blockchain by some methodology - has this been talked afterwards at all?

Possible, but still a very bad idea. I doubt very strongly that he will do such a terrible thing.

Bitcoin has to do it at some point if they want to go mainstream. Am I missing something or why is it a bad thing?

You can't force old TXes to move forward with a lot of gyrating. Risks tossing someone's wallet if it doesn't gyrate properly... Loses the basis for trusting the chain; that it can't be fucked with. Best choice is to jsut not fuck with it and have an incentive for hosting it at a trustless decentralized places so that lite wallets don't have trustfail... You know, masternodes...

What the BitCoin experiment lacks is incentivization for that which Satoshi could not be expected to forsee. DRK does what BTC does not; masternodes with flexible use.

Still waiting on the IP obfuscation...

[CHAOSiTEC]

DRK's value will be dependent on developing features beyond anonymity, which, as I alluded to, will not be a distinguishing feature from BTC with the advent of anonymizing wallets. I'd be interested to hear about some of these features that are on the development horizon.

Each master node is hosted on a server.

So far, over 800 decentralised servers, with proof of their readiness to serve.

What exactly do you want to host on such a decentralised platform?

Decentralised anonymous corporation stock exchange?
Decentralised markets? What do you fancy selling, or buying?
Decentralised exchanges?
Decentralised Enigma 2.0 messaging?
Decentralised etc, etc

   

Darkcoin will succeed and do just fine.  Can you buy coffee, groceries, clothing and services with cash?  Yes you can...we accept cash at our winery which is untraceable and decentralised.  We also accept Darkcoin at our winery.  Don't let those with an agenda provide you with FUD.  As long as cash exists, which is also anonymous...Darkcoin can and will succeed.  

btw, i like wine, and collect wine, do you have a link to your winery?

[ignitiondefect]

So, besides anonymity, in the future, the 800+ Masternodes are also envisioned as providing the basis for some sort of decentralized alternative internet? This is very interesting; I'd like to learn more. I'm not a technologist so please dumb it down where possible.

[stealth923]

Total Masternodes: 844 = 831 actives + 13 inactives

If this isnt a sign of serious investment - I dont know what is.

Lets hope we can get around 1000 for RC4. Thats a huge milestone!

[coins101]

Total Masternodes: 844 = 831 actives + 13 inactives

If this isnt a sign of serious investment - I dont know what is.

Lets hope we can get around 1000 for RC4. Thats a huge milestone!

Getting to 10% of Bitcoin number of nodes in such a short space of time, with the requirement to have 1000 DRKs to get a node, that was the milestone.

This is all just cherries on top at this stage of the game.

If we had 10% of Bitcoin value as well at this stage of the game.......

[splawik21]

Total Masternodes: 844 = 831 actives + 13 inactives

If this isnt a sign of serious investment - I dont know what is.

Lets hope we can get around 1000 for RC4. Thats a huge milestone!

stealth with this speed of increasing in quantity I dont see any problems with 1000+ MNs

[coins101]

So, besides anonymity, in the future, the 800+ Masternodes are also envisioned as providing the basis for some sort of decentralized alternative internet? This is very interesting; I'd like to learn more. I'm not a technologist so please dumb it down where possible.

Apple squeezed the internet down through its App store and made people want to use their ecosystem.

Think DRK App store, only you don't have to ask Apple, you can go after the most profitable grown up stuff on the internet, and you have a eCash to use too.

Stock up. You'll have plenty of things to spend your eCash on.

[bigrcanada]

DRK's value will be dependent on developing features beyond anonymity, which, as I alluded to, will not be a distinguishing feature from BTC with the advent of anonymizing wallets. I'd be interested to hear about some of these features that are on the development horizon.

Each master node is hosted on a server.

So far, over 800 decentralised servers, with proof of their readiness to serve.

What exactly do you want to host on such a decentralised platform?

Decentralised anonymous corporation stock exchange?
Decentralised markets? What do you fancy selling, or buying?
Decentralised exchanges?
Decentralised Enigma 2.0 messaging?
Decentralised etc, etc

   

Darkcoin will succeed and do just fine.  Can you buy coffee, groceries, clothing and services with cash?  Yes you can...we accept cash at our winery which is untraceable and decentralised.  We also accept Darkcoin at our winery.  Don't let those with an agenda provide you with FUD.  As long as cash exists, which is also anonymous...Darkcoin can and will succeed.  

btw, i like wine, and collect wine, do you have a link to your winery?

Hi...I[ll PM you with our winery information.  We specialize in single vineyard small lot wines, focusing on Rhones, Loire and mostly old world wine styles.  Cheers

[coins101]

Amarone?

Mercury before it was hit?

edit

I gave up collecting wine. I just drink as much as possible.

[bigrcanada]

So, besides anonymity, in the future, the 800+ Masternodes are also envisioned as providing the basis for some sort of decentralized alternative internet? This is very interesting; I'd like to learn more. I'm not a technologist so please dumb it down where possible.

2nd good question.  Lets please get someone to address ignitiondefect question about Masternodes, how and why they work.  Thanks team.

[thelonecrouton]

I can't remember where I read this but I think Evan said that it's possible to prune the blockchain by some methodology - has this been talked afterwards at all?

Possible, but still a very bad idea. I doubt very strongly that he will do such a terrible thing.

Bitcoin has to do it at some point if they want to go mainstream. Am I missing something or why is it a bad thing?

You can't force old TXes to move forward with a lot of gyrating. Risks tossing someone's wallet if it doesn't gyrate properly... Loses the basis for trusting the chain; that it can't be fucked with. Best choice is to jsut not fuck with it and have an incentive for hosting it at a trustless decentralized places so that lite wallets don't have trustfail... You know, masternodes...

What the BitCoin experiment lacks is incentivization for that which Satoshi could not be expected to forsee. DRK does what BTC does not; masternodes with flexible use.

Still waiting on the IP obfuscation...

Superblocks!  Coming soon to a homogenous blockchain in your neighbourhood.

And integrating IP obfuscation shouldn't be too hard, if that's the direction Evan chooses to take. The sublimely bland beauty of RC4 first though.

[MasterMined710]

Yes its clear that theyre working hard when reading the RC4 testing thread on darkcointalk.org, but an official update would still be nice.

i think it would be a good thing if somebody of the devteam could say a word or two how everything is going... Is the RC4 process on time?... Are things turning out as planed?... Sometimes it is just necessary to tell the people that everyting will be allright?.... Btw where are all the people that make this tread interesting?

yes, an official progress report update from eltito would be great. A small weekly update seems like a good idea in general.

on another note, it looks like the cloak dev got my message and hopefully things will calm down now. the message was respectful yet stern.