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August 06, 2014, 06:15:23 PM
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the advantage of ETH is: it washes the last stupid money out of coinsmarkets and puts it in the hands of experienced money-sharks.
While the sheep donate their btc to GS the rest of us can buy up the good alts at extreme discountprices just before BTC and alts go to the moon once more. I think i can speak for the ethereum team and everybody else in altcoin-space when i say: "thank you for donating"

People who are like "i invested just to be part of it and i don't expect any returns" make me laugh really hard. The denial is epic.
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August 06, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
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Yeah like some people think if they put in a small amount they help the project with it.

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August 06, 2014, 08:03:28 PM
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But if the amount of ether sold continues to get bigger, i mean there is almost a month left, if at the end of this sale there are 200 millions of ether sold, what would you do? do you think a new brand alt coin will support a 100,000 btc price? this ipo can get trapped on his own success. at least for investors, not for the owners.

Yes, that was my theory as well. Also the reason I wagered that >25000 BTC will be invested (even suggested that up to 50000 will be invested!)

My rationale behind this is the following, the amount of BTC that needs to be pumped into this coin after the launch will be enourmous, if now all people buy in the IPO, this number gets bigger and bigger in addition to that everyone already bought that was interested! So who will be the buyers that buy at over IPO prices? 

I don't know that, and most others don't either!

Congrats on winning our bet!

Ethereum is going to be the biggest IPO debacle in crypto history.  There are going to be no buyers for this "coin." Thats the short term problem. So is the "where the hell are they ever going to justify spending $25 million dollars on CODING!"  Holy shit batman! This is a joke.

So here are all the likely things that are going to happen. "Investors" are going to be watching expenditures like a hawk. Anything that doesn't make sense to the public is going to cause a shitstorm.

On top of that Ethereum VC owners will control probably between 40-50k bitcoins. That is a huge cloud over the price of bitcoin and every bitcoin cashed in is going to be scrutinized.

Then there is the fact that the price will plummet. It has no choice but to plummet. No one is going to buy this coin.  Yes, there will be some buyers the first week or two. Then there will be no more buyers. ANY lack of ability to deliver is going to cause panic sells and once that happens 1 time the price will be permanently underwater.

Then the question is what would it take for the Ethereum investment to be profitable? Well, thats hard to quantify. As many wise people have noted, Ether is a coin to pay for contracts, etc built on top of the platform. If successful Ether will have its own market competition forces that will drive down the costs of transactions, making Ether LESS valuable long term.

And, OH BY THE WAY, Ether is INFLATIONARY. Wow. Just wow.

The odds of this ending well are so freaking minute. Its going to be a shitshow.


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August 07, 2014, 01:45:32 PM
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Can someone actually explain the purpose of ethereum? I mean, what is it used for exactly?
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August 07, 2014, 01:48:54 PM
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Can someone actually explain the purpose of ethereum? I mean, what is it used for exactly?

Smart contracts. Basically I think the idea is that you can use it to put executable code on the block chain rather than just static information. This is used to create decentralized apps, storage, even 'decentralized automonous organisations' (businesses which run themselves without a human CEO).
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August 07, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
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I got a very bad feeling about the IPO of ethereum now...


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August 07, 2014, 04:53:56 PM
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I got a very bad feeling about the IPO of ethereum now...



When did you invest? How much?

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August 07, 2014, 07:38:20 PM
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I got a very bad feeling about the IPO of ethereum now...



Why is that?
Nothing has been changed.
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August 07, 2014, 07:49:26 PM
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I haven't invested.

One reason being that this isn't going to be ready for 6 months and I think in that timeframe there is a decent chance BTC will go on another bubble.

I'd rather have my money in BTC and alt coins with strong prospects than have it sitting doing nothing for half a year.

I also think for a project this innovative, it's likely the software development timeline will slip.

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August 07, 2014, 07:57:49 PM
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I haven't invested.

One reason being that this isn't going to be ready for 6 months and I think in that timeframe there is a decent chance BTC will go on another bubble.

I'd rather have my money in BTC and alt coins with strong prospects than have it sitting doing nothing for half a year.

I also think for a project this innovative, it's likely the software development timeline will slip.

I agree that probably is the biggest risk in terms of buying ether as an investment using BTC (unless you rebuy your BTC afterwards). I think the price will probably go up after launch, but if Bitcoin goes back up to $1000 or above territory, then its unlikely that any increase in the value of ether will keep up with that.
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August 08, 2014, 12:30:55 AM
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I haven't invested.

One reason being that this isn't going to be ready for 6 months and I think in that timeframe there is a decent chance BTC will go on another bubble.

I'd rather have my money in BTC and alt coins with strong prospects than have it sitting doing nothing for half a year.

I also think for a project this innovative, it's likely the software development timeline will slip.

I agree that probably is the biggest risk in terms of buying ether as an investment using BTC (unless you rebuy your BTC afterwards). I think the price will probably go up after launch, but if Bitcoin goes back up to $1000 or above territory, then its unlikely that any increase in the value of ether will keep up with that.

This is indeed a very big risk, but no the biggest. There are such high hopes for ethereum now, I think people will be very dissapointed and pissed once it actually launches, so in addition to very few people buying, many will desperately want to sell, just because they are pissed.

This spot for rent.
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August 08, 2014, 05:30:36 AM
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Why so many guys buy Ether, I don't think we can make money with this coin!

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August 08, 2014, 01:38:20 PM
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true ethereum investors don't read bitcointalk threads.

Disclaimer: I am not one of them  Wink
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August 08, 2014, 07:07:37 PM
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August 08, 2014, 10:42:18 PM
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Our commitment to transparency: Vitalik explains the planned withdrawal from our exodus address, within 48H -

https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/08/08/announcement-on-planned-exodus-withdrawal/

That's good stuff to know thanks for sharing

The intent is to withdraw 4150 BTC from our exodus address within the next 48 hours.

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Of this amount, 2650 BTC will be distributed to pay for loans for prior expenses. Individuals who have contributed loans to the project will receive repayment in BTC directly; “we” will not be selling any portion of this 2650 BTC on exchanges ourselves, although individuals may choose to independently convert the BTC that they receive into fiat after the fact.

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August 09, 2014, 10:49:55 AM
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Hi Pals,

I have an ethereum-wallet-***********54a02fd9d****.json file on my desktop, but i cannot find my email record of the ethereum i purchased.  Can anything be done with this file or file name to check on my investment? if so please advise how?
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August 09, 2014, 11:26:17 AM
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Hi Pals,

I have an ethereum-wallet-***********54a02fd9d****.json file on my desktop, but i cannot find my email record of the ethereum i purchased.  Can anything be done with this file or file name to check on my investment? if so please advise how?
thx

The Ether will not exist until the developers mine the Genesis block, which they anticipate happening in the winter of 2014-2015. After mining the Genesis block, they will send the IPO’d Ether to everyone who participated in the presale.
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August 10, 2014, 07:17:56 AM
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Hi Pals,

I have an ethereum-wallet-***********54a02fd9d****.json file on my desktop, but i cannot find my email record of the ethereum i purchased.  Can anything be done with this file or file name to check on my investment? if so please advise how?
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August 10, 2014, 07:37:17 AM
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Hope all is going well with your innovations. Keep up the good work. Cool
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August 10, 2014, 09:41:54 AM
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Hello Ethereum Community!

We've just released PocketCrypto, a new Cryptocurrency Management App that will allow you to easily manage your Ethereum investment (Price will currently default to the IPO price 0.0005 btc)  Hope you guys will check out the app and Good Luck to All!



Pro Version (super awesome!) (no ads) (earlier updates)(no coin limit) (just because you love us Cheesy)
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Please check out our main post for additional info, Thanks!
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Good work! But for IOS  Shocked Huh

Thank you! Smiley  We do have plans for IOS development, currently trying to raise some donations towards this project, if you would like to contribute there is a donation address in my signature, please send me a message so I can keep you updated on the development progress.  Thanks!


Sorry, do not take it personally but looking your IPO I hardly think that you still need additional funds...  Cheesy
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