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February 17, 2014, 07:18:08 PM
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The longer I have my money in BTC instead of ETH, the more I piss away by gambling online.  Can this thing start already?  Cry

Never gamble your money, gambling sites are like a black hole, even if you doubled your money in those websites, you never take out, untill your bitcoin is converted to 0. And then you regret yourself, remind yourself that even if you gamble and win, you will keep gambling to the point where you will lose all. been there, done that, recovered from gambling. never gambled again.  Smiley

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February 17, 2014, 11:49:40 PM
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this clear on etherium.org
dont buy ETH at peercover! be aware
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February 18, 2014, 12:10:53 PM
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should read the blog from Ethereumhttp://blog.ethereum.org/2014/02/13/important-statement-regarding-the-ether-pre-sale/

 
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February 18, 2014, 12:15:36 PM
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The longer I have my money in BTC instead of ETH, the more I piss away by gambling online.  Can this thing start already?  Cry

Never gamble your money, gambling sites are like a black hole, even if you doubled your money in those websites, you never take out, untill your bitcoin is converted to 0. And then you regret yourself, remind yourself that even if you gamble and win, you will keep gambling to the point where you will lose all. been there, done that, recovered from gambling. never gambled again.  Smiley

so true, listen to this man!
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February 18, 2014, 04:42:21 PM
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yey for ipo delay! still have time to save up  Tongue

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February 18, 2014, 05:23:07 PM
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Has the funding ethereum started? I mean funding not buying Eth if there is a difference there.

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February 18, 2014, 06:21:51 PM
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Has the funding ethereum started? I mean funding not buying Eth if there is a difference there.



Not yet

I think Monero (XMR) is very interesting.
https://moneroeconomy.com/faq/why-monero-matters
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February 19, 2014, 05:34:07 PM
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well guys, can't wait when i can buy eth Smiley looking forward
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February 19, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
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I can't wait to see all of you dumping coins and taking a huge painful loss.

You will learn the lesson the hard way.
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February 19, 2014, 05:47:53 PM
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I can't wait to see all of you dumping coins and taking a huge painful loss.

You will learn the lesson the hard way.


Irony?
New coins give not bad profit, by the way. Smiley only need to know when to buy and when to sell) that's all
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February 19, 2014, 06:31:00 PM
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I can't wait to see all of you dumping coins and taking a huge painful loss.

You will learn the lesson the hard way.


Irony?
New coins give not bad profit, by the way. Smiley only need to know when to buy and when to sell) that's all

Yep, you just need to be the very first in and the very first out - like in all ponzi schemes.

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February 19, 2014, 08:05:47 PM
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About this I'm talking Smiley
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February 20, 2014, 05:02:39 AM
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I think this problem with this IPO is more will be raised during the fund raiser than the supply of fresh money coming in after, the real irony is although this is probably the most innovative thing in crypto since bitcoin it's also the most likely to make a loss on post IPO.
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February 20, 2014, 05:05:17 AM
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They haven't changed their IPO? They acted like we care about something being undeveloped.

What we really care is about is a fair IPO. Ethereum is still failing, and they aren't even trying to address the real issue.



Whores will be whores till the day they die.




I'll buy your Ethereum at a 66% discount when it hits Poloniex
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February 20, 2014, 12:52:40 PM
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theyre doing fine

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February 21, 2014, 06:06:03 AM
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Charles & Vitalik,

I agree with the premise of decentralized database of contracts that eliminates centralized trust, but getting there requires we also pay attention to some realities.

As I explained to Charles on the phone last year, there is a fundamental flaw in your design which as far as I can see makes it untenable.

A Turing complete scripting layer run by the full clients (mining nodes) is subject to the Halting problem. You are begging for Murphy's Law due to centralizing chaos. When we run JavaScript in our Chrome browser, we are not requiring Google's servers to run the scripts. I see your mitigation is to charge the contract per line of code executed (beyond 16) for each transaction on the contract. However the cost of execution is "not one size fits all", thus you prevent innovation and bind together that which should be decentralized freedom.

Perhaps the tenable solution will be something along the lines of CoinWitness, where the script is run externally and only the proof is run by the mining nodes. On your blog you mention this technology but not for the purpose of fixing the problem I am claiming.

As I explained to Charles on the phone, I don't think your proof-of-work will remain consumer PC cpu-only.

Also you admit on your blog that you don't address the centralizing of mining.

Interested to see the progress you all make.

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February 21, 2014, 09:01:43 AM
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The obvious danger with a hugely publicised IPO as this is, that most people willing to invest in Ethereum at least short to medium term will do this via the IPO. Than after the launch who will want to buy people's ether? Will this not inevitably lead to a rapid price drop?

Admittedly I haven't looked into the project deep enough, maybe ether will not be traded?

You are right - so what? Those who are looking to get rich quick will be utterly disappointed by Ethereum.... Except the founders.

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February 21, 2014, 04:34:24 PM
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Charles & Vitalik,

I agree with the premise of decentralized database of contracts that eliminates centralized trust, but getting there requires we also pay attention to some realities.

As I explained to Charles on the phone last year, there is a fundamental flaw in your design which as far as I can see makes it untenable.

A Turing complete scripting layer run by the full clients (mining nodes) is subject to the Halting problem. You are begging for Murphy's Law due to centralizing chaos. When we run JavaScript in our Chrome browser, we are not requiring Google's servers to run the scripts.

Perhaps the tenable solution will be something along the lines of CoinWitness, where the script is run externally and only the proof is run by the mining nodes. On your blog you mention this technology but not for the purpose of fixing the problem I am claiming.

As I explained to Charles on the phone, I don't think your proof-of-work will remain consumer PC cpu-only.

Also you admit on your blog that you don't address the centralizing of mining.

Interested to see the progress you all make.

Great to see you here.

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February 21, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
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When the Windows-QT wallet will be ready ?
investment has already begun? where ?
Thx!

no investments yet. two weeks or so. read the last two pages
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February 21, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
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I think this problem with this IPO is more will be raised during the fund raiser than the supply of fresh money coming in after, the real irony is although this is probably the most innovative thing in crypto since bitcoin it's also the most likely to make a loss on post IPO.
+1
and the permanent inflation of 0.4X is going to hurt as well.
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