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July 23, 2014, 07:17:27 AM
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You can get some information if you go to https://www.ethereum.org/ and click to "Buy Ether".

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I can't find it even after you posted it.

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July 23, 2014, 07:18:42 AM
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You can get some information if you go to https://www.ethereum.org/ and click to "Buy Ether".

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So they are selling 83.5% coins?

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July 23, 2014, 07:28:55 AM
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I've got NO idea if this is a sensible investment... When does the presale end? Is there a cap?

This must be the most ridiculous IPO I have ever seen here if you can look past the pretty marketing.
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July 23, 2014, 07:29:33 AM
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Devs cancelled the first IPO in order to work on details and come up with a decent IPO plan. Instead they've just started IPO with no info whatsoever. Maidsafe investors got about 20000 coins for 1 BTC, devs set a cap but still investors are pretty much fucked. Ethereum devs only offer 2000 for 1 BTC, didn't set a cap, didn't post any info about total amount of coins, mining plan, devs stake ect. Looks like another big disappointment: eMunie, Maidsafe, Ethereum.

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Ethereum has a good idea. I hope they succeed because it benefits our community. But they are taking a HUGE risk by allowing this much BTC to be invested into something that hasn't been proven 100%

They are still in proof of concept for crying out loud.

Ethereum, stop being greedy. You're setting yourself up for failure and a bunch of bad PR.

If you succeed, then congrats. But why take the risk?

Plus, the higher number of BTC they get, the more disappointed all the investors will be after mining dilutes their shares by 60%+.

Mark my words. This isn't gonna end well for the presale buyers. The miners are the ones who will benefit the most. The presale buyers are for impatient people who are prone to panic buys from hype.

Agree I'm sitting this out too!
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July 23, 2014, 07:32:36 AM
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What the use of ether coin?

I can not figure out the profitable model of holding the coin.

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July 23, 2014, 07:34:55 AM
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Let's say they are able to gather 10K BTC for 83.5% coins. It's 12,000 BTC market cap, 11th place on coinmarketcap.com.

Ok, it looks much better. Could bring 200-300% profit short term.

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July 23, 2014, 07:39:30 AM
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Holy crap, they got 1000 BTC more over the last hour.

6,272,778 ETH sold | 3136 BTC

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July 23, 2014, 07:41:05 AM
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Let's say they are able to gather 10K BTC for 83.5% coins. It's 12,000 BTC market cap, 11th place on coinmarketcap.com.

Ok, it looks much better. Could bring 200-300% profit short term.

Also, it depends on adoptability. If it's  adopted at wider level, miners are not necessarily going to dilute it, as the adoption rate could be higher than coins generated by miners. I am going to invest anyway, even though it could be risky.

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July 23, 2014, 07:46:38 AM
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I can't find any information on the mining

Will it be PoW?
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July 23, 2014, 07:46:46 AM
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Let's say they are able to gather 10K BTC for 83.5% coins. It's 12,000 BTC market cap, 11th place on coinmarketcap.com.

Ok, it looks much better. Could bring 200-300% profit short term.

If you want to make your calculations more accurate...  take into consideration that at the end of the first year there will be an additional 26% ETH created (total ETH distributed through the ether sale * 1.26);  this process will continue the following years as well.

Doesn't the ether distribution go down every year.

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July 23, 2014, 07:47:23 AM
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I can't find any information on the mining

Will it be PoW?

They are still working on the algorithm but it will be POW or POW/POS.

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July 23, 2014, 07:48:40 AM
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No cap on sales, I take it? Approx. 14 days at current price, regardless of how many sell between now and that 14 days, correct?

I don't think the pre-sale can be profitable for investors.

I don,t see

Sorry for my broken English XD
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July 23, 2014, 07:51:27 AM
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I have a hard time seeing how this could be a good investmente
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July 23, 2014, 07:52:30 AM
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I think some posters here need to do more research on their own, ethereum is not new, it's been in development for a long time now. There is plenty of information on the net about the developers, their past projects, etc. They are some of the most popular and well-known people in the cryptocurrency realm.

What most people, including me, who are used to throw-away type altcoins and have grown so skeptical and cynical, don't understand...is...ethers are not coins. They are tokens to be used to "rent space" or complete any action on the ethereum blockchain. Ethereum is a programming language which allows developers to build applications on a decentralized internet.

For example, you have a website...your website is hosted on somebody's server. But if you have a website hosted on Ethereum, your website exists on the blockchain. It's decentralized and updated through the mining process.

For those who think Ethereum is a coin, its not. It aims to be the beginning of the next generation of internet, where the entire internet exists on a blockchain, everybody pays a little ether for every action they make online, and the whole net is supported by mining ether the same way the "bitcoin ledger" is supported and updated by mining bitcoin.

There probably will be no immediate or short-term gains. But it might be something you can buy and give to your children and grandchildren.
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July 23, 2014, 07:55:39 AM
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I think some posters here need to do more research on their own, ethereum is not new, it's been in development for a long time now. There is plenty of information on the net about the developers, their past projects, etc. They are some of the most popular and well-known people in the cryptocurrency realm.

What most people, including me, who are used to throw-away type altcoins and have grown so skeptical and cynical, don't understand...is...ethers are not coins. They are tokens to be used to "rent space" or complete any action on the ethereum blockchain. Ethereum is a programming language which allows developers to build applications on a decentralized internet.

For example, you have a website...your website is hosted on somebody's server. But if you have a website hosted on Ethereum, your website exists on the blockchain. It's decentralized and updated through the mining process.

For those who think Ethereum is a coin, its not. It aims to be the beginning of the next generation of internet, where the entire internet exists on a blockchain, everybody pays a little ether for every action they make online, and the whole net is supported by mining ether the same way the "bitcoin ledger" is supported and updated by mining bitcoin.

There probably will be no immediate or short-term gains. But it might be something you can buy and give to your children and grandchildren.

I want to make millions of USD with short-term investments (I know I won´t) and give that to my children. Smiley
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July 23, 2014, 07:56:19 AM
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I think some posters here need to do more research on their own, ethereum is not new, it's been in development for a long time now. There is plenty of information on the net about the developers, their past projects, etc. They are some of the most popular and well-known people in the cryptocurrency realm.

What most people, including me, who are used to throw-away type altcoins and have grown so skeptical and cynical, don't understand...is...ethers are not coins. They are tokens to be used to "rent space" or complete any action on the ethereum blockchain. Ethereum is a programming language which allows developers to build applications on a decentralized internet.

For example, you have a website...your website is hosted on somebody's server. But if you have a website hosted on Ethereum, your website exists on the blockchain. It's decentralized and updated through the mining process.

For those who think Ethereum is a coin, its not. It aims to be the beginning of the next generation of internet, where the entire internet exists on a blockchain, everybody pays a little ether for every action they make online, and the whole net is supported by mining ether the same way the "bitcoin ledger" is supported and updated by mining bitcoin.

There probably will be no immediate or short-term gains. But it might be something you can buy and give to your children and grandchildren.

That's a very bold statement to make that there will probably be no immediate or short term gains. You can't justify that.

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July 23, 2014, 07:59:18 AM
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I also need to remind people that it is in everyone's interest to prevent you from investing if they invested in the pre-sale, it means they get a bigger slice of the pie. So be careful with believing in any ones posts.

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July 23, 2014, 07:59:36 AM
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I understand Ether is not a coin, it's a basically a token to use on the Ethereum blockchain in order to initiate any implementation.
Is that basically correct?

What methods will be available for determining Ether value (in BTC or fiat) after the Ether pre-sale is finished, and what avenues will be available to sell Ether for BTC or fiat after the pre-sale is finished. Will Ether be traded on exchanges?


I still hope to get a direct answer to my question: How, where, and when can ethers be sold back to bitcoin or fiat?

You can be sure there will be exchanges that will add ether so that they can profit from trading fees

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July 23, 2014, 08:00:41 AM
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No cap? Send as much as you can? With the rate this is going i forsee atleast 20000 BTC.

No immediate returns guys, wait 10 years to see something significant
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July 23, 2014, 08:04:03 AM
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No cap on sales, I take it? Approx. 14 days at current price, regardless of how many sell between now and that 14 days, correct?

If that's true (and I believe it is) why doesn't everyone wait until the deadline to purchase?

My guess is those people are afraid that Ethereum might stop the sale early, or change the terms to be less favorable.  But doing that will damage trust so seems unlikely to happen.
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