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February 03, 2014, 06:51:25 AM
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WTF? Where did all the info about the fundraiser go? Does it still exist?

This was literally posted a few posts up. There's also the "Investment FAQ" you can look at.


So how can I make an investment into this?

You can't make a contribution. The fundraiser has been postponed and no new date has been announced yet. Sign up for their mailing list and look on here for when we'll all go crazy when it's announced!

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February 03, 2014, 06:52:42 AM
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No LARPing on bitcointalk please.

I'm happy that I had to search for that to find out what it means. I have not slipped that far... I'm still okay.

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February 03, 2014, 06:55:17 AM
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However, how am I supposed to start the client?
I am executing from the build directory
Code:
cd eth && ./eth
and the console got stuck at:

Might be easier to run the GUI client if you're just getting into it. It's called "alephzero".


Code:
cd alephzero && ./alephzero

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February 03, 2014, 07:12:47 AM
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We have seen PTS BTS ,the NXT IPO , DAC, now the Ethereum Looking forward to this year

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February 03, 2014, 07:33:16 AM
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However, how am I supposed to start the client?
I am executing from the build directory
Code:
cd eth && ./eth
and the console got stuck at:

Might be easier to run the GUI client if you're just getting into it. It's called "alephzero".


Code:
cd alephzero && ./alephzero

Yes, however, I can not compile it.

When running:

Code:
qmake ../../cpp-ethereum-poc-1/alephzero

I am getting:

Code:
Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: widgets

And if I try to ignore it and go ahead with "make" I am getting:

Code:
In file included from ../../cpp-ethereum-poc-1/alephzero/main.cpp:1:0:
../../cpp-ethereum-poc-1/alephzero/MainWin.h:8:32: fatal error: libethereum/Client.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
make: *** [main.o] Error 1

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February 03, 2014, 07:41:06 AM
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When I tried to apply this solution:

http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/139/qt-widgets

I am getting:

Code:
***Unknown option -qt=qt5

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February 03, 2014, 08:01:29 AM
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When I tried to apply this solution:

http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/139/qt-widgets

I am getting:

Code:
***Unknown option -qt=qt5

Do you have qtbase5-dev and qt5-default installed?


Code:
sudo apt-get install qtbase5-dev qt5-default

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February 03, 2014, 08:24:23 AM
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Hi, thanks.

I installed them and passed the qmake step. However, when I go to the make step I am getting:

Code:
../../cpp-ethereum-poc-1/alephzero/MainWin.h:8:32: fatal error: libethereum/Client.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
make: *** [main.o] Error 1

Strangly, but in my cpp-ethereum-poc-1/libethereum folder I can see this file, however, the cpp-ethereum-build/libethereum does not have it.

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February 03, 2014, 09:01:53 AM
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OK, so opened the code of MainWin.h, saw that it was trying to include libethereum/Client.h, and that this folder is one step parently as opposed to the current, copied the folder inside the alephzero, ran again make, then go successfully trough this error and got:

Code:
./ui_Main.h:14:25: fatal error: QtGui/QAction: No such file or directory

I am trying to believe that sth really general must be messed up here.
May the developers of the client help me, please?

P.S. Do not get me wrong, I am a big fan of Ethereum, however, you really need to make the client more user-friendly. I will not exaggerate if I say that I am trying to install it from 7:00 AM local time, now is 11:00.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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February 03, 2014, 10:26:01 AM
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OK, so opened the code of MainWin.h, saw that it was trying to include libethereum/Client.h, and that this folder is one step parently as opposed to the current, copied the folder inside the alephzero, ran again make, then go successfully trough this error and got:

Code:
./ui_Main.h:14:25: fatal error: QtGui/QAction: No such file or directory

I am trying to believe that sth really general must be messed up here.
May the developers of the client help me, please?

P.S. Do not get me wrong, I am a big fan of Ethereum, however, you really need to make the client more user-friendly. I will not exaggerate if I say that I am trying to install it from 7:00 AM local time, now is 11:00.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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February 03, 2014, 01:16:11 PM
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When start mining?

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February 03, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
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When start mining?

Not until sometime after the funding round begins - sign up for alerts at http://www.ethereum.org/.

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February 03, 2014, 04:47:26 PM
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So, uh, is this worth messing with at this point? I don't want to mine it if the  block chain will just be reset and my earnings will become worthless.

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February 03, 2014, 05:48:28 PM
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OK, I finally complied everything (went trough everything from the begining, but this time went for the git package). And when I ran ./alephzero I got:

Code:

Qt at-spi: error getting the accessibility dbus address:  "The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files"
Accessibility DBus not found. Falling back to session bus.
Opened blockchain db. Latest: b2579caa489a929ce383cf3ddbfa9515d860382df667195ab0ff64dac88de74c
Segmenting error(segfault) (core dumped)


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February 03, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
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So, uh, is this worth messing with at this point? I don't want to mine it if the  block chain will just be reset and my earnings will become worthless.

Not unless you're just really curious. It's all just a testnet...the ether will be destroyed when the final client is released.

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February 03, 2014, 09:06:01 PM
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As someone who's been involved with tech startups... I can say that this is very different from a traditional tech startup VC financing. ...WAY more money than is typically offered .... no apparent legal recourse for fraud, poor performance, or neglect. ... VC - they require very detailed funding agreements.  ... investors, have absolutely no power over the direction of the crypto.  None.  Typically, a venture firm will have numerous methods of influence over a startup.  total lack of power and a tremendous amount of money given DAY ONE, then it definitely raises eyebrows.   I can tell you that no VC firm I know would invest as it is now.

These pre-sales are ground floor opportunities to participate in seed rounds in small tranche sizes affordable to anyone. This has been denied to retail investors for a very long time. This is a threat to some gatekeepers and their cronies who are used to making a lot of money from the current system, which may be a motivation for the recent flurry of attacks against IPO type pre-sales. These attacks seem to be coming from experienced disinformation operatives skilled in their craft - not your typical trolls

Both of these comments are actually very interesting.  Bitcoin is bringing a whole new way of thinking to a lot of traditional financial systems.  In some ways, flipping it right upside down.  And in most ways, leveling the playing field.  Eliminating corruption.  Special interests.  Pre-IPO buying that only the rich can participate in, etc.  It seems that this IPO could be viewed in just the same way.  Just because traditional VC scenarios play out a certain way, doesn't mean doing it this way is invalid, or less legitimate.  It's just different.  Given the corruption saturating the traditional financial system, this way may very well be superior.  Bitcoin has been a challenge to a lot of people, to start thinking about money, and structure in a completely different manner.

I think it makes sense to build in security, legal recourse, and fraud protection however.  I don't think doing so would take away from the new mentality that crypto is bringing

But look at it this way:  those things are coming.  Right now we're still in the "wild west".  A time when the risk is huge, and the reward will be exponentially larger than anything available once traditional rules are put in place.  *shoots guns in the air*

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February 03, 2014, 09:16:01 PM
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Question for Charles:

On the white paper it says price will be "1000-2000 per BTC" with better prices going to earlier investors.  I realize you guys are still ironing out the details, but the author of that sentence seemed to have something in mind, and its not clear by what he wrote.  1000 to 2000 is a huge range in price.  "Early" is not clarified.  

I was under the impression that the whole IPO was considered early.  Will there be a subdivision within the IPO timeframe?  Maybe a 3 month IPO, with 2000 price going to those in the first half of 3 months?  Just hoping for some clarification on this.  Is it possible there will be a sliding scale, and that 2,000 price may only go to those in the first hour?

I have found myself telling people to invest, but unable to tell them what price they'll get.  When I say "Either 1000 or 2000" they look at me strange, for obvious reasons.

Thanks.

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February 03, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
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Question for Charles:

On the white paper it says price will be "1000-2000 per BTC" with better prices going to earlier investors.  I realize you guys are still ironing out the details, but the author of that sentence seemed to have something in mind, and its not clear by what he wrote.  1000 to 2000 is a huge range in price.  "Early" is not clarified.  

I was under the impression that the whole IPO was considered early.  Will there be a subdivision within the IPO timeframe?  Maybe a 3 month IPO, with 2000 price going to those in the first half of 3 months?  Just hoping for some clarification on this.  Is it possible there will be a sliding scale, and that 2,000 price may only go to those in the first hour?

I have found myself telling people to invest, but unable to tell them what price they'll get.  When I say "Either 1000 or 2000" they look at me strange, for obvious reasons.

Thanks.

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I asked the same with no answer.

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February 03, 2014, 10:08:14 PM
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Question for Charles:

On the white paper it says price will be "1000-2000 per BTC" with better prices going to earlier investors.  I realize you guys are still ironing out the details, but the author of that sentence seemed to have something in mind, and its not clear by what he wrote.  1000 to 2000 is a huge range in price.  "Early" is not clarified.  

I was under the impression that the whole IPO was considered early.  Will there be a subdivision within the IPO timeframe?  Maybe a 3 month IPO, with 2000 price going to those in the first half of 3 months?  Just hoping for some clarification on this.  Is it possible there will be a sliding scale, and that 2,000 price may only go to those in the first hour?

I have found myself telling people to invest, but unable to tell them what price they'll get.  When I say "Either 1000 or 2000" they look at me strange, for obvious reasons.

Thanks.

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I asked the same with no answer.
There was much more information last week but they removed it and postponed the giveaway. That information is still TBD
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February 03, 2014, 10:08:42 PM
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When start mining?

Not until sometime after the funding round begins - sign up for alerts at http://www.ethereum.org/.
not 1 alert yet. signed up a week ago.
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