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December 03, 2019, 11:05:37 AM
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I would not agree that Croatia is "reached its peak in Russia", it is still very good team with a lot of experienced players and with some very talented young players. The bookies once again underestimate Croatia, placing it in 9th place by chance of winning the championship, which is really weird for the 6 ranking football team in the world by FIFA and a World Cup finalist 2018.

It is a good team, but 9th is kind of realistic. And I'd definitely say that Croatia reached it's peak in Russia, no way this team is among the top 5 in Europe.
It is a knock-out tournament so anything can happen, but if I had to bet on either getting knocked out in group or reaching the semi's - I'd bet on the first one.
I think the result we will achieve is right in the middle - passing the group but getting knocked out soon after.

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December 03, 2019, 11:33:59 AM
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It is a good team, but 9th is kind of realistic. And I'd definitely say that Croatia reached it's peak in Russia, no way this team is among the top 5 in Europe.
It is a knock-out tournament so anything can happen, but if I had to bet on either getting knocked out in group or reaching the semi's - I'd bet on the first one.
I think the result we will achieve is right in the middle - passing the group but getting knocked out soon after.

I don't know why you underestimate your country, it's almost the same team, without 2 or 3 players from last World Cup, but with a couple of good young players who filled their spots. Most of them play in top European clubs (Modric, Rakitic, Perisic, Kovacic, Rebic, Kramaric...). By FIFA ranking Croatia is 4 team in Europe, only Belgium, France and England are ranked better.

There seem to be too many pessimists in Croatia who don't believe in their team, but that is your problem - I bet you think same thing in 2018.

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December 03, 2019, 11:40:52 AM
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I don't know why you underestimate your country, it's almost the same team, without 2 or 3 players from last World Cup, but with a couple of good young players who filled their spots. Most of them play in top European clubs (Modric, Rakitic, Perisic, Kovacic, Rebic, Kramaric...). By FIFA ranking Croatia is 4 team in Europe, only Belgium, France and England are ranked better.

There seem to be too many pessimists in Croatia who don't believe in their team, but that is your problem - I bet you think same thing in 2018.

Of course there are, it is not pessimism but realism. Can we beat Belgium? Sure we can, but if we play them 10 times we will lose 5, draw 3 and win 2. They are the better team, therefore, their odds on winning are smaller.
I think it before every competition, mostly because we aren't good enough to constantly challenge top teams. One 2nd place in 20 years is enough proof that I'm right.

That does not mean I will not support my country and want nothing less than a victory in every game once it starts, just realistically saying that another (let's say) top3 result is a stretch for this team. Not saying we will not be there, just that the odds of it happening are not too great.

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December 03, 2019, 02:01:52 PM
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It is a good team, but 9th is kind of realistic. And I'd definitely say that Croatia reached it's peak in Russia, no way this team is among the top 5 in Europe.
It is a knock-out tournament so anything can happen, but if I had to bet on either getting knocked out in group or reaching the semi's - I'd bet on the first one.
I think the result we will achieve is right in the middle - passing the group but getting knocked out soon after.

I don't know why you underestimate your country, it's almost the same team, without 2 or 3 players from last World Cup, but with a couple of good young players who filled their spots. Most of them play in top European clubs (Modric, Rakitic, Perisic, Kovacic, Rebic, Kramaric...). By FIFA ranking Croatia is 4 team in Europe, only Belgium, France and England are ranked better.

There seem to be too many pessimists in Croatia who don't believe in their team, but that is your problem - I bet you think same thing in 2018.

You forgot to mention Petkovic,  Vlasic,  Brekalo and other great new players in Croatian national team now.
I feel that Petkovic have potential to be better than Mandjukic and Vlašić already now can replace Rakitic.
Right now we have many young players but without experience.
They can play one match very good but other can loose.
I think that this EURO came to quickly for them but in the next World cup and next Euro they can make very good result.

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December 03, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
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There seem to be too many pessimists in Croatia who don't believe in their team, but that is your problem - I bet you think same thing in 2018.

Croatia is always a strong opponent from any team that it is going to face them.
However, they won't reach too far as they are stronger teams that participate. My bet would go for Belgium as De Bruyne is in an amazing form this season and he deserves to win a title with his national team.
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December 04, 2019, 04:23:27 PM
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There seem to be too many pessimists in Croatia who don't believe in their team, but that is your problem - I bet you think same thing in 2018.

Croatia is always a strong opponent from any team that it is going to face them.
However, they won't reach too far as they are stronger teams that participate. My bet would go for Belgium as De Bruyne is in an amazing form this season and he deserves to win a title with his national team.

Experience from many competitions tells me that the individual quality of a team isn't the most important for the final success.
If that were the only important thing, then Brazil would be the world champion many times in the last 20 years and Barcelona the champion of Europe for the last 5 years.
Much more important is psychological preparation, stability, and team unity.
I think these factors were very important for the success of Croatia in Russia and could also be important for the EURO next year.
Don't write off Croatia too soon because they really have nothing to lose, unlike England.




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December 05, 2019, 04:46:12 AM
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There seem to be too many pessimists in Croatia who don't believe in their team, but that is your problem - I bet you think same thing in 2018.

Croatia is always a strong opponent from any team that it is going to face them.
However, they won't reach too far as they are stronger teams that participate. My bet would go for Belgium as De Bruyne is in an amazing form this season and he deserves to win a title with his national team.

Experience from many competitions tells me that the individual quality of a team isn't the most important for the final success.
If that were the only important thing, then Brazil would be the world champion many times in the last 20 years and Barcelona the champion of Europe for the last 5 years.
Much more important is psychological preparation, stability, and team unity.
I think these factors were very important for the success of Croatia in Russia and could also be important for the EURO next year.
Don't write off Croatia too soon because they really have nothing to lose, unlike England.


I don’t know about you’ll but I vividly remember feeling very upset, and almost bursting into tears when I saw Croatia loose the finals because those players deserved to win but sadly they failed to fire when it mattered the most. If England underestimates them then they’ll definitely loose the match, but considering how well Southgate has managed the team I feel he’ll do his homework and we can expect a competitive match.
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December 05, 2019, 03:54:04 PM
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There seem to be too many pessimists in Croatia who don't believe in their team, but that is your problem - I bet you think same thing in 2018.

Croatia is always a strong opponent from any team that it is going to face them.
However, they won't reach too far as they are stronger teams that participate. My bet would go for Belgium as De Bruyne is in an amazing form this season and he deserves to win a title with his national team.

Experience from many competitions tells me that the individual quality of a team isn't the most important for the final success.
If that were the only important thing, then Brazil would be the world champion many times in the last 20 years and Barcelona the champion of Europe for the last 5 years.
Much more important is psychological preparation, stability, and team unity.
I think these factors were very important for the success of Croatia in Russia and could also be important for the EURO next year.
Don't write off Croatia too soon because they really have nothing to lose, unlike England.


I don’t know about you’ll but I vividly remember feeling very upset, and almost bursting into tears when I saw Croatia loose the finals because those players deserved to win but sadly they failed to fire when it mattered the most. If England underestimates them then they’ll definitely loose the match, but considering how well Southgate has managed the team I feel he’ll do his homework and we can expect a competitive match.

That match was one of the biggest disappointments of my life and I will never forget it.
Croatia started off great and played the best match in the World Cup.
But France was very lucky with the first 2 goals and the players from Croatia, who were already tired of previous matches, could not return again.
England will certainly not underestimate us this time and it will be a very difficult match for Croatia.
However, Croatian players are fighters and never give up, so count on us  Smiley  Smiley

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See here the Winner Betting Odds for EURO 2020: http://futbik.com/who-will-win-euro-2020-winner-betting-odds/

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For breaking the FFP rules, The Union European Football Association (UEFA) expelled Manchester City from the Champions League for two seasons and fined 5 million euros.
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Source: https://www.forbes.com


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March 15, 2020, 07:27:17 PM
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Next week they will have a meeting and they probably delay the EURO to winter or more likely to summer 2021.
Leagues as Serie A and probably more asked to EUFA a dealy to be able to play games in summer cause the current Virus Situation.

I think we have 0% chances at the moment to see the EURO 2020 in July.

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Next week they will have a meeting and they probably delay the EURO to winter or more likely to summer 2021.
Leagues as Serie A and probably more asked to EUFA a dealy to be able to play games in summer cause the current Virus Situation.

I think we have 0% chances at the moment to see the EURO 2020 in July.

I think delay of EURO is actually the only solution here. It makes much more sense than stopping the leagues. This way we just have a break and then the leagues can finish with normal pace and stretch into the summer.

This new concept of Euro would make it extra dangerous for current situation. Is there a better way to help spread corona in Europe than organize a massive competition in multiple countries spreading all over the continent? It just has to be put on hold until corona dies of completely or we find some sort of vaccine/cure.

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March 15, 2020, 07:36:49 PM
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I think we have 0% chances at the moment to see the EURO 2020 in July.
Not that I like these international matches. In fact I hate it when there are international breaks LOL

But this is really not looking good. Sports lovers are going to have boring time.

Bad Luck for Manchester City..  Angry Angry
For breaking the FFP rules, The Union European Football Association (UEFA) expelled Manchester City from the Champions League for two seasons and fined 5 million euros.
They fined 5 million euros that's okay but "Manchester City is banded for 2 seasons" I do not accept it in any way..   Angry Angry

Source: https://www.forbes.com
Where did this came from! There are no talk about it in fact, may be people are too busy to talk about corona LOL
It's not very good news for City. Two years is a long time after all.


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March 15, 2020, 07:59:06 PM
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Bad Luck for Manchester City..  Angry Angry
For breaking the FFP rules, The Union European Football Association (UEFA) expelled Manchester City from the Champions League for two seasons and fined 5 million euros.
They fined 5 million euros that's okay but "Manchester City is banded for 2 seasons" I do not accept it in any way..   Angry Angry

Source: https://www.forbes.com
Where did this came from! There are no talk about it in fact, may be people are too busy to talk about corona LOL
It's not very good news for City. Two years is a long time after all.

You missed it man, we talked about it in several topics, premier league one, our premier league pool, even that topic about transfers and news. I guess you were busy that week Smiley
It was reported in all media as well. I wanted to link few of them for you but couldn't find exact posts at the moment, and I know I wrote 3-5 post about that topic.

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Last edit: March 15, 2020, 08:32:50 PM by BitcoinGirl.Club
 #1095

You missed it man, we talked about it in several topics, premier league one, our premier league pool, even that topic about transfers and news. I guess you were busy that week Smiley
It was reported in all media as well. I wanted to link few of them for you but couldn't find exact posts at the moment, and I know I wrote 3-5 post about that topic.

Yes, I did miss it then. These days I am more into giving time to family. Not going outside much. Staying at home and having good time with my little girl. I usually do not watch Channels much coz watching these news give me stress. The media is talking about this virus too much and stressing people.

I have seen an interview from a doctor (Dr. Drew, no idea who he is though) in USA and he was saying there are nothing much to get hyped about it.

Here check it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39A7Tr-H29E

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Klopp is my man! Watch this: https://youtu.be/5CRxyHU9Oxo?t=216

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Pamoldar! You really missed the biggest news on the season actually haha. And yes, everyone seems to have forgot it,,, I thought city was going to be doing an appeal but from what I remember even with the appeal they would surely get the fine, and surely get at least 1 season ban. If City do not win CL this season,,, they will be out for 2 at minimum. Hard to recover!

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March 16, 2020, 04:40:05 PM
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Next week they will have a meeting and they probably delay the EURO to winter or more likely to summer 2021.
Leagues as Serie A and probably more asked to EUFA a dealy to be able to play games in summer cause the current Virus Situation.

I think we have 0% chances at the moment to see the EURO 2020 in July.

I still don't think that the postponement is going to be the right decision.
We don't know if things are going to be improved in the next year or during winter 2021. Scientists claim that coronavirus is here to stay and can be transmitted from person to person even during the hot days.
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Next week they will have a meeting and they probably delay the EURO to winter or more likely to summer 2021.
Leagues as Serie A and probably more asked to EUFA a dealy to be able to play games in summer cause the current Virus Situation.

I think we have 0% chances at the moment to see the EURO 2020 in July.

I still don't think that the postponement is going to be the right decision.
We don't know if things are going to be improved in the next year or during winter 2021. Scientists claim that coronavirus is here to stay and can be transmitted from person to person even during the hot days.

@Naida_BR so according to you we should force the players to play, and disregard the safety measures in place?, and secondly force the players to play behind closed doors which is horrible for a player and a fan. Therefore I would strongly disagree with your view that the tournament should not be postponed, as players and fans safety is the most important thing and hence in I believe that this tournament should be postponed.

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I still don't think that the postponement is going to be the right decision.
We don't know if things are going to be improved in the next year or during winter 2021. Scientists claim that coronavirus is here to stay and can be transmitted from person to person even during the hot days.
What's the point of having EURO without fans? Or even worse, allow fans to come and spread disease we don't know that much about, we don't know how it will behave in the long term and possible effects it may have, and most importantly, we don't have vaccine yet.

Even if EURO is not postponed, some players would boycott it, maybe even whole teams. And that would be even bigger disaster.


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March 17, 2020, 08:34:36 AM
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I still don't think that the postponement is going to be the right decision.
We don't know if things are going to be improved in the next year or during winter 2021. Scientists claim that coronavirus is here to stay and can be transmitted from person to person even during the hot days.
What's the point of having EURO without fans? Or even worse, allow fans to come and spread disease we don't know that much about, we don't know how it will behave in the long term and possible effects it may have, and most importantly, we don't have vaccine yet.

Even if EURO is not postponed, some players would boycott it, maybe even whole teams. And that would be even bigger disaster.


I think that the only chance of Euro not getting postponed is if scientists find a vaccine for the virus. Yesterday I read one article saying that German company is developing a vaccine and it could be ready some time in the fall. If they don't produce a vaccine, then I don't know how any competition could be held. Not only UEFA Euro.
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