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September 25, 2021, 06:24:33 AM
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I will put that in a different way. For me these results are reality for Dinamo. Bjelica was the outlier in Dinamo story who made them all believe they can play against top teams in Europe and they did. Now we are back to usual scared performances. If you are a coach and you spend whole week of preparation talking how your opponent is good and how you need to watch this and that player, that destroys players morale and makes them believe draw is a good result. And I am sure most of our coaches are doing just that with couple of examples like Bjelica. To do something big in Europe your team has to have qoulity but also belief that they can play against all those other top clubs.

And of course, welcome to dark gambling side @slackovic

These results are reality for Dinamo's coaches, not for the players. I'm not saying that Dinamo has a team that can easily beat top European teams but they definitely can play better. As you said - the biggest problem is that they lost their winning mentality they had under Bjelica. That's why I hoped Krznar is just a temporary solution until they find someine better. I'm pretty sure the wouldn't have lost 3-0 to Sheriff if they had a better coach.

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September 25, 2021, 11:30:07 AM
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I noticed that, of course. But when VAR was introduced, some things began to become clear. The refs were reluctant to go to the monitor, I don't know what to say, everyone will conclude for themselves after seeing it.

The problem for one of these teams to make the playoffs is the match against a team from the champions league. That is, the team from the champions league group that finishes in 3rd place in the group stage will play the team that finished second in the european league group. That is, one of the two teams (Leicester or Napoli) may not qualify, in case of defeat

The use of VAR has greatly improved in recent seasons.
Especially when it comes to using it only for critical moves such as penalties or decisive goal moves.
What still needs to be much improved is the downtime of games due to the VAR. I understand that after an analysis is started, the decision needs to be right, but it is ridiculous to wait longer than 1 minute in some cases for a decision.

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September 25, 2021, 01:45:20 PM
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I will put that in a different way. For me these results are reality for Dinamo. Bjelica was the outlier in Dinamo story who made them all believe they can play against top teams in Europe and they did. Now we are back to usual scared performances. If you are a coach and you spend whole week of preparation talking how your opponent is good and how you need to watch this and that player, that destroys players morale and makes them believe draw is a good result. And I am sure most of our coaches are doing just that with couple of examples like Bjelica. To do something big in Europe your team has to have qoulity but also belief that they can play against all those other top clubs.

And of course, welcome to dark gambling side @slackovic

These results are reality for Dinamo's coaches, not for the players. I'm not saying that Dinamo has a team that can easily beat top European teams but they definitely can play better. As you said - the biggest problem is that they lost their winning mentality they had under Bjelica. That's why I hoped Krznar is just a temporary solution until they find someine better. I'm pretty sure the wouldn't have lost 3-0 to Sheriff if they had a better coach.

Personally, I agree that the Dinamo team is weaker this season, but the way they lost the matches against Sheriff and West Ham tells me that the players have lost faith in their abilities, that the coach does not know how to prepare the right strategy and game plan and therefore unfortunately I am not optimistic about the future of Dinamo in this European competition.
That is why I said in a previous post that for Dinamo will be a success in the Europa League this season if they avoid the last place in the group and continue competing in the conference league in the spring.
Given the current relationships at the club and in the city, I don’t think it’s realistic for anyone to replace the coach this season.
The group’s favorite for first place is obviously West Ham.


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September 25, 2021, 07:05:12 PM
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I noticed that, of course. But when VAR was introduced, some things began to become clear. The refs were reluctant to go to the monitor, I don't know what to say, everyone will conclude for themselves after seeing it.

The problem for one of these teams to make the playoffs is the match against a team from the champions league. That is, the team from the champions league group that finishes in 3rd place in the group stage will play the team that finished second in the european league group. That is, one of the two teams (Leicester or Napoli) may not qualify, in case of defeat

The use of VAR has greatly improved in recent seasons.
Especially when it comes to using it only for critical moves such as penalties or decisive goal moves.
What still needs to be much improved is the downtime of games due to the VAR. I understand that after an analysis is started, the decision needs to be right, but it is ridiculous to wait longer than 1 minute in some cases for a decision.
Well, there are controversial moments, that's why they are worth thinking about. It's purely human instinct to make the right decision. All the same, when VAR is used only in the decisive moments according to the judges, they miss a lot of important moments that can not be considered critical. And sometimes do not even give a card where it is necessary

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September 29, 2021, 06:46:45 AM
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Lol... Maybe in the first half Napoli was a bit stronger than Leicester, but believe me, if this "miracle team" called Napoli had not been helped by the referee, they would have fucking won the second half. Leicester's goals were actually on point, they played the second half on par with their rivals, but thank the referee

Napoli should have scored a couple of goals in the first half their statisics in this match were off the roof i still cant believe that they didnt win this match. But i think they will 100% pass the group even tho they got a draw in this match.
I don't know, Leicester has a real wall at the goal, so maybe that's why they didn't score those "couple of goals" in the first half. I'm still not happy with the refereeing in this match. Leicester were very  sued in a couple of moments.

Nevertheless, I also think that Napoli will win the group. But most likely it will be decided in the Napoli vs Leicester match in Italy because both teams will get 3 points each against Legia and Spartak.
the european league match will resume tomorrow and what is quite interesting for me is the match between napoli and spartak moscow, in the previous match napoli failed to get full points against leicester and so did spartak who lost to legia, I think this match will be an opportunity for both team to earn points, but I personally see that Napoli is now stronger than Spartak, because napoli are currently in excellent form under the coach of Luciano Spalletti, so far Napoli have won all Serie A matches this season and they are at the top of the Serie A standings, in my opinion, in addition to being supported by more qualified quality, Napoli are also superior because they play at home, and of course it will make the mentality of the Napoli players improve, even though so far Napoli and Spartak Moscow have never met in any competition, but I believe that Napoli will win the match with a score of 3-1.

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Napoli - Spartak Moscow, looks like this will be an easy win for Napoli. Napoli's performance itself is in its best form, even unbeaten in Serie A and also, the factor of playing at home will certainly be an additional strength and spirit that will not decrease this time. In contrast to Spartak Moscow and even, Spartak Moscow lost in the first match against Legia and even though at that time Spartak Moscow was playing at home, it still did not make him able to score goals.

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September 29, 2021, 09:54:30 AM
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Napoli - Spartak Moscow, looks like this will be an easy win for Napoli. Napoli's performance itself is in its best form, even unbeaten in Serie A and also, the factor of playing at home will certainly be an additional strength and spirit that will not decrease this time. In contrast to Spartak Moscow and even, Spartak Moscow lost in the first match against Legia and even though at that time Spartak Moscow was playing at home, it still did not make him able to score goals.

@hahay Napoli has been transformed this season, and they’re indeed the favourites to win this match and I personally expect them to score at least 2 goals and win it. Also if Spartak Moscow don’t improve their performances then they’ll dumped out of the Europa League hence they’ll be motivated for this match, so let’s see if they can offer some stiff competition to Napoli or no.
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September 29, 2021, 10:29:52 AM
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Marseille v Galatasaray would be one of the nice matches of this match week. Marseille got a surprising draw against Lokomotiv Moscow the last time even though their opponent got a red card. On the other hand, Galatasaray managed to defeat Lazio by 1-0. It wasn't an easy victory but a win is a win for them. In this match, I'm favoring Marseille as they are the more powerful and in-form side. I think they will win the match by 1 score difference in the worst case.

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September 29, 2021, 01:14:32 PM
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Napoli - Spartak Moscow, looks like this will be an easy win for Napoli. Napoli's performance itself is in its best form, even unbeaten in Serie A and also, the factor of playing at home will certainly be an additional strength and spirit that will not decrease this time. In contrast to Spartak Moscow and even, Spartak Moscow lost in the first match against Legia and even though at that time Spartak Moscow was playing at home, it still did not make him able to score goals.
@hahay Napoli has been transformed this season, and they’re indeed the favourites to win this match and I personally expect them to score at least 2 goals and win it. Also if Spartak Moscow don’t improve their performances then they’ll dumped out of the Europa League hence they’ll be motivated for this match, so let’s see if they can offer some stiff competition to Napoli or no.

This is a no-brainer match for Napoli. They have been playing very well in the league lately and with the likes of players like Insigne and Dries Mertens up front, they are also lethal in front of the goal post.  Whereas Sparktak has always been the team which plays the CL or Europa League every year but can hardly qualify past three quarters in most of the cases. So yes, should be an easy dub for Napoli.

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September 29, 2021, 01:31:01 PM
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Napoli - Spartak Moscow, looks like this will be an easy win for Napoli. Napoli's performance itself is in its best form, even unbeaten in Serie A and also, the factor of playing at home will certainly be an additional strength and spirit that will not decrease this time. In contrast to Spartak Moscow and even, Spartak Moscow lost in the first match against Legia and even though at that time Spartak Moscow was playing at home, it still did not make him able to score goals.

It is an easy peasy match for Napoli indeed. Spartak Moscow are no match for them. Napoli have a perfect win series in the Serie A now and there is nothing holding them back to get another win in this match also. They drew with Leicester 2-2 in a really tough match on the first week. It is time for Napoli to get their first win in their group. I suppose they will be the winning side with at least 2-goal diff.

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September 29, 2021, 01:40:20 PM
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@hahay Napoli has been transformed this season,

Seeing some of their recent appearances, Napoli are very convincing to become champion candidates of Serie-A. The challenge for Napoli is their consistency, whether it will stay like this or will it change. We know, sometimes when the team is on fire, the club is faced with injury problems, this condition often makes the team experience a decline in performance.

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September 29, 2021, 01:45:58 PM
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Real Sociedad - Monaco game is also one of the nice games today. Monaco have started gathering themselves up in the recent times. They won 3 of their last 4 games. This is the Monaco that I want to see. But Real Sociedad are no weaker than them also. They are at the second place in the La Liga. In this case, I assume that we will watch a very competitive game. But I think that Monaco will get at least one point.

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September 29, 2021, 02:03:49 PM
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Napoli - Spartak Moscow, looks like this will be an easy win for Napoli. Napoli's performance itself is in its best form, even unbeaten in Serie A and also, the factor of playing at home will certainly be an additional strength and spirit that will not decrease this time. In contrast to Spartak Moscow and even, Spartak Moscow lost in the first match against Legia and even though at that time Spartak Moscow was playing at home, it still did not make him able to score goals.
Napoli are at their best under new coach Luciano Spalletti. They have won all of their Serie A matches this season and are at the top of the standings. Napoli's current mission is that they will hunt for full points to earn their first win in the Europa League on Thursday. Spartak Moscow started this season's Europa League journey with a loss. They had to go down 1:0 to Legia Warsaw. Spartak Moscow, who finished second in the Russian League last season, started the 2021-22 season in a dismal manner. My prediction tonight is 2-1.
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September 29, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
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Marseille v Galatasaray would be one of the nice matches of this match week. Marseille got a surprising draw against Lokomotiv Moscow the last time even though their opponent got a red card. On the other hand, Galatasaray managed to defeat Lazio by 1-0. It wasn't an easy victory but a win is a win for them. In this match, I'm favoring Marseille as they are the more powerful and in-form side. I think they will win the match by 1 score difference in the worst case.

I don't think it will be a exciting match. Galatasary has lost form since the start of the season. And they are still fighting to get back to form. Their performance this season is very poor. Marseille, on the other hand, is performing very well this season. Marseille are currently third position in the Ligue 1. Their players are playing well in almost every match. Marseille could easily win this match.

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September 29, 2021, 02:25:18 PM
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@hahay Napoli has been transformed this season,

Seeing some of their recent appearances, Napoli are very convincing to become champion candidates of Serie-A. The challenge for Napoli is their consistency, whether it will stay like this or will it change. We know, sometimes when the team is on fire, the club is faced with injury problems, this condition often makes the team experience a decline in performance.
Both teams failed to win their opening Europa League match and will be looking for a way to get their first win in tomorrow match with hopes of qualifying for the knockout stages, if I compare Spartak  first match lost to Legia and Napoli  match against Leicester draw in the first match, to be honest  I just see napoli play much better than spartak, especially now that napoli are unbeaten in all competitions this season and have won all league games, while Spartak Moscow, have lost three of their last five matches. From some of these reasons, I really believe that Napoli will easily beat Spartak

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September 29, 2021, 02:31:31 PM
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Marseille v Galatasaray would be one of the nice matches of this match week. Marseille got a surprising draw against Lokomotiv Moscow the last time even though their opponent got a red card. On the other hand, Galatasaray managed to defeat Lazio by 1-0. It wasn't an easy victory but a win is a win for them. In this match, I'm favoring Marseille as they are the more powerful and in-form side. I think they will win the match by 1 score difference in the worst case.

I don't think it will be a exciting match. Galatasary has lost form since the start of the season. And they are still fighting to get back to form. Their performance this season is very poor. Marseille, on the other hand, is performing very well this season. Marseille are currently third position in the Ligue 1. Their players are playing well in almost every match. Marseille could easily win this match.

I agree with you. Marseille have a much better form than Galatasaray now. Galatasaray won against Lazio but this doesn't prove that they are doing good. By the way, Lazio played better in that game. Galatasaray just found a lucky goal and won it. Marseille lost their last game against Lens maybe but they are very good in general. And it is even a home game for them. They will win this.
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September 29, 2021, 02:47:16 PM
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Real Sociedad - Monaco game is also one of the nice games today. Monaco have started gathering themselves up in the recent times. They won 3 of their last 4 games. This is the Monaco that I want to see. But Real Sociedad are no weaker than them also. They are at the second place in the La Liga. In this case, I assume that we will watch a very competitive game. But I think that Monaco will get at least one point.
Such a high place in the standings is occupied by Real Sociedad, because he had rather weak opponents at the beginning of the season, I think that closer to the middle of the season Sociedad will slide lower into the Eurocup zone. I expect to see few goals in match today, perhaps there will be a draw. Monaco is also playing well now, I think there will be calm football and few goals.

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September 29, 2021, 02:52:31 PM
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Such a high place in the standings is occupied by Real Sociedad, because he had rather weak opponents at the beginning of the season, I think that closer to the middle of the season Sociedad will slide lower into the Eurocup zone. I expect to see few goals in match today, perhaps there will be a draw. Monaco is also playing well now, I think there will be calm football and few goals.

PSV - Real Sociedad game wasn't very calm as it ended by 2-2. But it wasn't in Real Sociedad's stadium too. This game is in their stadium so we could see a controlled game from both sides. Monaco are in a good form lately. If they manage to score first, then maybe we would see multiple goals. Otherwise, Real Sociedad can control the working of the game and secure one point in the worst case.

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September 29, 2021, 04:32:55 PM
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Marseille v Galatasaray would be one of the nice matches of this match week. Marseille got a surprising draw against Lokomotiv Moscow the last time even though their opponent got a red card. On the other hand, Galatasaray managed to defeat Lazio by 1-0. It wasn't an easy victory but a win is a win for them. In this match, I'm favoring Marseille as they are the more powerful and in-form side. I think they will win the match by 1 score difference in the worst case.

I don't think it will be a exciting match. Galatasary has lost form since the start of the season. And they are still fighting to get back to form. Their performance this season is very poor. Marseille, on the other hand, is performing very well this season. Marseille are currently third position in the Ligue 1. Their players are playing well in almost every match. Marseille could easily win this match.
Maybe they were saving their energy for the European league. Why not?) Okay actually I agree with you, Galatsaray really does not look good. In their championship three matches without a victory, but they beat Lazio with a minimum score, that is, they are not so weak now, because the Italian team plays well...

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September 29, 2021, 07:26:50 PM
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PSV - Real Sociedad game wasn't very calm as it ended by 2-2. But it wasn't in Real Sociedad's stadium too. This game is in their stadium so we could see a controlled game from both sides. Monaco are in a good form lately. If they manage to score first, then maybe we would see multiple goals. Otherwise, Real Sociedad can control the working of the game and secure one point in the worst case.
The result of winning in the league will certainly motivate Real Sociedad players to can win against Monaco, especially in the previous match they were only able to get a draw against PSV, and of course tomorrow match will be very crucial for Real Sociedad in order to shift Monaco position now at the top of the standings, in my opinion real sociedad should not lose against monaco tomorrow, if they want to maintain their ambition to top group B.

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