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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129359 times)
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April 23, 2021, 03:52:28 PM
 #6821

Chelsea really seem like they started fully focusing on the Champions League draw against Real Madrid. Otherwise, it means that Chelsea started having really big difficulties in winning games. I can't wait to see their performance against Real Madrid in the first leg. After seeing Real Madrid destroyed Liverpool home, I wonder whether they will succeed in doing it against Chelsea too.

I think for Chelsea to create problems for Real Madrid, they have to build a much better tactical structure, because at the level of quality I think Real is better.

Now Thomas Tuchel has done a good job at the tactical level, which has worked, even when his team doesn't even play good games.
Thomas Tuchel is a coach experienced enough. If Real Madrid thinks Chelsea is an easy opponent, they will make a big mistake. Although Zidane is skilled enough. He knows which strategy can be used to win against any team. But I think the match will be very exciting and competitive.

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April 23, 2021, 04:08:24 PM
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After this whole ESL 'drama', there are 4 days left for the semi-final games to start. Real Madrid are going to host Chelsea in the first leg on Tuesday. Both of them have a league game 3 days before this match. The result of them could have an affect on their performance in this game. For the first game, I think Real Madrid are a little more dominant. And I expect them to win this by 1 goal.

It’s going to be a close tie over the 2 legs, I think Real will reach the final though. The other semi final is for me, a toss of a coin. Man City & PSG is too close to call.

If Real Madrid get an advantageous result in the first leg, I will also start thinking that Real Madrid would eliminate Chelsea and reach the final. But if Chelsea manage to draw with them, things could really become interesting in the second leg.

When it comes to the City - PSG draw, it will be a very close one undoubtedly. But it seems to me like City are in a better condition and form now.

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April 23, 2021, 04:51:25 PM
 #6823

Anyone in the know about the latest news? What are the chances that PSG will receive the cup automatically? (I mean the disqualification of other teams, or the return of Bayern, Borussia and Porto). Honestly, I would not want any changes before the final, if only because I have several active express bets that also cover the semifinal matches.

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April 23, 2021, 05:07:26 PM
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Anyone in the know about the latest news? What are the chances that PSG will receive the cup automatically? (I mean the disqualification of other teams, or the return of Bayern, Borussia and Porto). Honestly, I would not want any changes before the final, if only because I have several active express bets that also cover the semifinal matches.

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April 23, 2021, 05:39:12 PM
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After this whole ESL 'drama', there are 4 days left for the semi-final games to start. Real Madrid are going to host Chelsea in the first leg on Tuesday. Both of them have a league game 3 days before this match. The result of them could have an affect on their performance in this game. For the first game, I think Real Madrid are a little more dominant. And I expect them to win this by 1 goal.

It’s going to be a close tie over the 2 legs, I think Real will reach the final though. The other semi final is for me, a toss of a coin. Man City & PSG is too close to call.

If Real Madrid get an advantageous result in the first leg, I will also start thinking that Real Madrid would eliminate Chelsea and reach the final. But if Chelsea manage to draw with them, things could really become interesting in the second leg.

When it comes to the City - PSG draw, it will be a very close one undoubtedly. But it seems to me like City are in a better condition and form now.
Real madrid or chelsea need to produce a win in the first leg to create safety in the second leg, and whoever wins the first leg even with a thin score will have a good chance of qualifying for the final.
However, there is bad news that is still unclear regarding the fate of the team that was declared the founder of the European Super League, especially Real Madrid, which I know will be crossed out in the Champions League semifinals later.
And for Man City v PSG it will be an interesting game and City are really in good shape and I think City will win in the first leg.
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April 23, 2021, 08:34:52 PM
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I think Psg will win if Manchester City plays in attack like they usually do and can be hit from counter attacks...
PSG also play attacking football, so it's going to be the both teams going for the win and neither of them sitting back, except of course either, or both of the managers change their attacking style we have come to know them for, but if not, I don't think the game will be won on 'sit back and counter attack' strategy, but two teams going at it hammer and tongs and the better side victorious at the end of the day.
When it comes to the City - PSG draw, it will be a very close one undoubtedly. But it seems to me like City are in a better condition and form now.
I second that too, and PSG play at home first, so if City can get something from the first leg (away goals), they can head into the second leg with an advantage, City have also finally gotten over their QF jinx of being eliminated in that stage of the competition, as they advanced to the semis for the second time in their history, they could well use that momentum and go all the way to the trophy.



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April 23, 2021, 09:41:26 PM
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If Real Madrid get an advantageous result in the first leg, I will also start thinking that Real Madrid would eliminate Chelsea and reach the final.
I think Real Madrid will force themselves to score more than 1 goal in the first Leg. Maybe 2 or 3 goals, and expect Chelsea cannot score a single goal. With a big experience of Zidane and most Madrid players, I am sure they can do it. Moreover, if most of their key players can play in the first Leg. I can say that they will be in the final, just need to get a draw result in the second Leg.

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April 23, 2021, 10:37:13 PM
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If Real Madrid get an advantageous result in the first leg, I will also start thinking that Real Madrid would eliminate Chelsea and reach the final.
I think Real Madrid will force themselves to score more than 1 goal in the first Leg. Maybe 2 or 3 goals, and expect Chelsea cannot score a single goal. With a big experience of Zidane and most Madrid players, I am sure they can do it. Moreover, if most of their key players can play in the first Leg. I can say that they will be in the final, just need to get a draw result in the second Leg.


Real Madrid can really do that, I agree. They did it to Liverpool. They got a 3-1 win against them in the first leg. Chelsea have not much different form than Liverpool now. So I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Chelsea with a 2-goal difference or so. But I still expect Chelsea to fight back against them really well.

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April 24, 2021, 01:33:31 AM
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Real madrid or chelsea need to produce a win in the first leg to create safety in the second leg, and whoever wins the first leg even with a thin score will have a good chance of qualifying for the final.
However, there is bad news that is still unclear regarding the fate of the team that was declared the founder of the European Super League, especially Real Madrid, which I know will be crossed out in the Champions League semifinals later.
And for Man City v PSG it will be an interesting game and City are really in good shape and I think City will win in the first leg.
I'm betting on the home team winning this first leg, it would be safer if they could win by enough goals, and not conceding at all, PSG will be able to overcome City at least in the first leg.
As for the sanctions, I think it will only apply to the next season if there really would be.

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April 24, 2021, 06:02:33 AM
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Real Madrid can really do that, I agree. They did it to Liverpool. They got a 3-1 win against them in the first leg. Chelsea have not much different form than Liverpool now. So I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Chelsea with a 2-goal difference or so. But I still expect Chelsea to fight back against them really well.
It can be a plan from Real Madrid as if they can win big in the first leg, they have easier task in the second leg. In the meantime, they will be able to focus on La Liga. However, it is only a plan and a big win is not a must task for Real Madrid. They need to win first and it will be a better 3 points if they get a big win. If it is not a big win, but 3 points in hand, they will still have a successful match.

I don't think Zidane will force his players to begin the match with a task of 3 points and big win. It will be a tough requirement and can bring side effects. Not yet mention that Chelsea has good players and Tuchel has big desire to have his second Champions League finale.

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April 24, 2021, 09:49:46 AM
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If Real Madrid get an advantageous result in the first leg, I will also start thinking that Real Madrid would eliminate Chelsea and reach the final.
I think Real Madrid will force themselves to score more than 1 goal in the first Leg. Maybe 2 or 3 goals, and expect Chelsea cannot score a single goal. With a big experience of Zidane and most Madrid players, I am sure they can do it. Moreover, if most of their key players can play in the first Leg. I can say that they will be in the final, just need to get a draw result in the second Leg.


They should do their best for the 1st leg, winning by 2-3 goals difference will be a big advantage for the 2nd leg especially if they can keep cleansheet on the 1st leg. I dont mean to say that Chelsea is not great enough, but I do believe Real Madrid is still a team with higher level than Chelsea. Chelsea might give a big surprise even though the chance is low.
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April 24, 2021, 02:31:05 PM
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If Real Madrid get an advantageous result in the first leg, I will also start thinking that Real Madrid would eliminate Chelsea and reach the final.
I think Real Madrid will force themselves to score more than 1 goal in the first Leg. Maybe 2 or 3 goals, and expect Chelsea cannot score a single goal. With a big experience of Zidane and most Madrid players, I am sure they can do it. Moreover, if most of their key players can play in the first Leg. I can say that they will be in the final, just need to get a draw result in the second Leg.


They should do their best for the 1st leg, winning by 2-3 goals difference will be a big advantage for the 2nd leg especially if they can keep cleansheet on the 1st leg. I dont mean to say that Chelsea is not great enough, but I do believe Real Madrid is still a team with higher level than Chelsea. Chelsea might give a big surprise even though the chance is low.
I don't think Real Madrid will be able to score 2-3 goals against Chelsea. Chelsea will play indoor football on counterattacks. Such teams are always a big problem for Real Madrid.
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April 24, 2021, 03:20:34 PM
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If Real Madrid get an advantageous result in the first leg, I will also start thinking that Real Madrid would eliminate Chelsea and reach the final.
I think Real Madrid will force themselves to score more than 1 goal in the first Leg. Maybe 2 or 3 goals, and expect Chelsea cannot score a single goal. With a big experience of Zidane and most Madrid players, I am sure they can do it. Moreover, if most of their key players can play in the first Leg. I can say that they will be in the final, just need to get a draw result in the second Leg.


They should do their best for the 1st leg, winning by 2-3 goals difference will be a big advantage for the 2nd leg especially if they can keep cleansheet on the 1st leg. I dont mean to say that Chelsea is not great enough, but I do believe Real Madrid is still a team with higher level than Chelsea. Chelsea might give a big surprise even though the chance is low.
I don't think Real Madrid will be able to score 2-3 goals against Chelsea. Chelsea will play indoor football on counterattacks. Such teams are always a big problem for Real Madrid.

From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.

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April 24, 2021, 04:58:33 PM
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From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.

Chelsea ended up winning against FC Porto, due to their effectiveness of the counterattacks. Clearly it will be the most used strategy against Real Madrid.
Try to defend well, and whenever possible to counterattack.

Because in my opinion, in a busy game they are inferior to Real Madrid. But the difference may be in this counterattack strategy, which they are good at.

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3 out of 4 remaining teams were involved with European Super League, I am not sure about PSG but from what I read they were involved at least a bit, even if not founders they were accepting the possibility which means ALL teams remaining in the champions league right now were part of it. You can go further back and Bayern, Porto, Dortmund and Liverpool all involved once again, so all 8 teams were involved, I can go back and find out about the rest but if you have 8 of the best teams in a league format, you do that, there is no going back.

Only thing that kept us from seeing this league was the greed of Uefa and that's it, nothing more. I am not saying that it is going to happen or should happen, under the threat of Uefa they couldn't do it and that makes sense, but if it were to happen without any problems coming from Uefa this would have been a great deal.

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We are getting closer to the game between Real Madrid and Chelsea which is going to be played three days later. Real Madrid got a draw in their last league game against Betis. However, Chelsea defeated West Ham in a very close game. This results might affect the performance of each team a little. But I'm sure that both of them will be prepared well for this game. Real Madrid will try to do the same thing again, getting a good result in the first leg. Chelsea seem to be stronger in defense compared to Liverpool. Hence, an interesting game is waiting for us.

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April 24, 2021, 11:15:23 PM
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We are getting closer to the game between Real Madrid and Chelsea which is going to be played three days later. Real Madrid got a draw in their last league game against Betis. However, Chelsea defeated West Ham in a very close game. This results might affect the performance of each team a little. But I'm sure that both of them will be prepared well for this game. Real Madrid will try to do the same thing again, getting a good result in the first leg. Chelsea seem to be stronger in defense compared to Liverpool. Hence, an interesting game is waiting for us.
I also think that it is not necessary to link the result in La Liga with the upcoming game, because these are slightly different things, although the upcoming game was also kept in mind. For example, if it wasn't for the Chelsea game, I think Zidane could have released Eden Hazard earlier. Real Madrid continues to fight for the championship, so they can not afford to do such a luxury to let their leaders miss the championship matches. Chelsea, too, continue to fight for a place in the coveted top four, so the teams are in roughly the same conditions with the only difference that Real Madrid need to think more about winning a home match. I think Real Madrid will win with a minimum score.
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April 25, 2021, 06:43:29 AM
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From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.

Chelsea ended up winning against FC Porto, due to their effectiveness of the counterattacks. Clearly it will be the most used strategy against Real Madrid.
Try to defend well, and whenever possible to counterattack.

Because in my opinion, in a busy game they are inferior to Real Madrid. But the difference may be in this counterattack strategy, which they are good at.

If Chelsea play slow football or passing tactics against a team like Real Madrid, they will undoubtedly lose. Because Real Madrid is quite experienced in passing football tactics. Chelsea must adopt a counterattack strategy to win against Real Madrid. I do not see an alternative

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April 25, 2021, 07:39:49 AM
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From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.

Chelsea ended up winning against FC Porto, due to their effectiveness of the counterattacks. Clearly it will be the most used strategy against Real Madrid.
Try to defend well, and whenever possible to counterattack.

Because in my opinion, in a busy game they are inferior to Real Madrid. But the difference may be in this counterattack strategy, which they are good at.

If Chelsea play slow football or passing tactics against a team like Real Madrid, they will undoubtedly lose. Because Real Madrid is quite experienced in passing football tactics. Chelsea must adopt a counterattack strategy to win against Real Madrid. I do not see an alternative

Chelsea could really do a great job if they choose to give importance to counter-attacks. Because I assume Real Madrid will have the control of the game most of the time. Even getting a draw would be advantageous for Chelsea.
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April 25, 2021, 07:51:09 AM
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From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.
Chelsea ended up winning against FC Porto, due to their effectiveness of the counterattacks. Clearly it will be the most used strategy against Real Madrid.
Try to defend well, and whenever possible to counterattack.

Because in my opinion, in a busy game they are inferior to Real Madrid. But the difference may be in this counterattack strategy, which they are good at.
If Chelsea play slow football or passing tactics against a team like Real Madrid, they will undoubtedly lose. Because Real Madrid is quite experienced in passing football tactics. Chelsea must adopt a counterattack strategy to win against Real Madrid. I do not see an alternative

I agree that Chelsea really have to use a counter-attack strategy if they want to beat Real Madrid. Moreover, playing home for Real Madrid will
definitely take the initiative to attack. So Chelsea can take advantage of Madrid's defensive line that will move forward, and most importantly
Chelsea must apply direct passing. So when doing a counter-attack it can be very fast, let alone take advantage of Werner's speed, Chelsea
should be able to score goals.

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