⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Silberman]

AC Milan will play against Liverpool. And Liverpool have already won all their matches and qualified for the next round. This match is not as important for Liverpool as it is for AC Milan. At the same time it is the home match of AC Milan. Although Liverpool is very strong. Still, I think maybe he can win this match. And Liverpool and AC Milan from Group B will qualify. On the other hand, the match between Porto and Atletico Madrid seems to be a draw.

Yep, Milan can incredibly earn the access to the final stage.

I think is never happened in the history of the Champions league if it will happen, 1 point after 4 games and qualification to the second phase.

I find it incredible that both Milan and Atletico Madrid can still qualify to the next round while having only 4 points after five games, and it is not like Porto is performing that much better with only 5 points, even in other groups where there is a team that is as dominant as Liverpool, like Ajax and Bayern Munich this is not happening in those groups, however even if Liverpool is not really playing to qualify anymore I think they would like to be undefeated on the group stage, so I think Milan has almost no chance to qualify to the next round.

[KTChampions]

Yep, Milan can incredibly earn the access to the final stage.

I think is never happened in the history of the Champions league if it will happen, 1 point after 4 games and qualification to the second phase.

In fact, in the history of the Champions League, there have been many teams that were able to advance to the next round with only 7 points. But Zenit is the absolute record holder - in 2013 they were able to reach the playoffs with 6 points. By the way, in the same year, another record was set - Napoli scored 12 points but were eliminated from the tournament. What an irony

[CLS63]

The Manchester City vs PSG game was important in terms of taking the lead or guaranteeing it. If Manchester City won, they were going to guarantee promoting being the leader of their group. And they succeeded. I watched the most of the game and Manchester City were really highly dominant against PSG. But it was totally normal to me as City are nearly always like this in their home games. Even if PSG scored the first goal, City still turned the game around and won by 2-1. Congrats to them as they achieved their goal for the group stage.

[TopT3ns]

The Manchester City vs PSG game was important in terms of taking the lead or guaranteeing it. If Manchester City won, they were going to guarantee promoting being the leader of their group. And they succeeded. I watched the most of the game and Manchester City were really highly dominant against PSG. But it was totally normal to me as City are nearly always like this in their home games. Even if PSG scored the first goal, City still turned the game around and won by 2-1. Congrats to them as they achieved their goal for the group stage.

Manchester City defeat PSG and get first position on group A, most important for every club to get standing first position on group because on next round they will faced with weakness team from runner up on other group, but bad think when standing position as runner up group like PSG will faced bigger team as first position standing on group like Bayern, Chelsea and Liverpool. Now PSG left one match but can't achieve points of Manchester City.

[nelson4lov]

The Manchester City vs PSG game was important in terms of taking the lead or guaranteeing it. If Manchester City won, they were going to guarantee promoting being the leader of their group. And they succeeded. I watched the most of the game and Manchester City were really highly dominant against PSG. But it was totally normal to me as City are nearly always like this in their home games. Even if PSG scored the first goal, City still turned the game around and won by 2-1. Congrats to them as they achieved their goal for the group stage.

That match was heavily dominated by Man city in their usual fashion and I was also expecting PSG to match city's attacking prowess but it wasn't much and city being the best team, won. Although they won't meet again for group stage games, I would be really love to see them meet again but towards the end of the competition ^Semi final or finaks of two big and dominant teams yet to win their UCL title.

[Smartvirus]

Although they won't meet again for group stage games, I would be really love to see them meet again but towards the end of the competition ^Semi final or finaks of two big and dominant teams yet to win their UCL title.

Nice expectancy and that's going yo be quite a game for sure. On both sides, it would be them fighting so hard to lift a first UCL trophy and on the side of PSG, they already lost one game so, loosing a rematch would be unacceptable especially one that could end in a title. Mean while, Manchester City already lost a trophy to Chelsea in the previous season so, them loosing yet under one under the management of Pep would be very much unacceptable as well. Hence, it would be such a die hard game should both teams get a rematch in course of the competition. Though, I don't see Chelsea not advancing to try and defend there title in the finals.

[KTChampions]

That match was heavily dominated by Man city in their usual fashion and I was also expecting PSG to match city's attacking prowess but it wasn't much and city being the best team, won. Although they won't meet again for group stage games, I would be really love to see them meet again but towards the end of the competition ^Semi final or finaks of two big and dominant teams yet to win their UCL title.

City won, but I must admit that in this match its defense was disgusting. If PSG were a little more successful in attack, they could at least draw and maybe even win. In fact, both teams did not play in the best way, perhaps this can be explained by the fact that the tournament value was not so important.

[Daniel91]

That match was heavily dominated by Man city in their usual fashion and I was also expecting PSG to match city's attacking prowess but it wasn't much and city being the best team, won. Although they won't meet again for group stage games, I would be really love to see them meet again but towards the end of the competition ^Semi final or finaks of two big and dominant teams yet to win their UCL title.

City won, but I must admit that in this match its defense was disgusting. If PSG were a little more successful in attack, they could at least draw and maybe even win. In fact, both teams did not play in the best way, perhaps this can be explained by the fact that the tournament value was not so important.

What is the main problem of PSG is that there are ''three walkers'' in the team, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, who simply don't play defense, don't run enough and therefore PSG constantly plays with three players less in defense.
With such problems in the game PSG  can succeed against weaker teams and on basis on individual quality they can win, but against strong teams like Manchester CIty, with such a game they have no chance of winning.
Obviously their coach has no authority and can’t get the three walkers on the team to start running and playing in defense.
If nothing changes in their concept of the game, PSG has no chance of winning the Champions League this season.

[KTChampions]

City won, but I must admit that in this match its defense was disgusting. If PSG were a little more successful in attack, they could at least draw and maybe even win. In fact, both teams did not play in the best way, perhaps this can be explained by the fact that the tournament value was not so important.

What is the main problem of PSG is that there are ''three walkers'' in the team, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, who simply don't play defense, don't run enough and therefore PSG constantly plays with three players less in defense.
With such problems in the game PSG  can succeed against weaker teams and on basis on individual quality they can win, but against strong teams like Manchester CIty, with such a game they have no chance of winning.
Obviously their coach has no authority and can’t get the three walkers on the team to start running and playing in defense.
If nothing changes in their concept of the game, PSG has no chance of winning the Champions League this season.

An interesting point of view, maybe that's why PSG plays best this season when there are a maximum of two players from this trio on the field 
Regarding PSG's chances of winning the Champions League, despite the fact that the bookmakers give a solid 6.85 for this event, in my opinion it is absolutely unrealistic for PSG.

[fullhdpixel]

That match was heavily dominated by Man city in their usual fashion and I was also expecting PSG to match city's attacking prowess but it wasn't much and city being the best team, won. Although they won't meet again for group stage games, I would be really love to see them meet again but towards the end of the competition ^Semi final or finaks of two big and dominant teams yet to win their UCL title.

City won, but I must admit that in this match its defense was disgusting. If PSG were a little more successful in attack, they could at least draw and maybe even win. In fact, both teams did not play in the best way, perhaps this can be explained by the fact that the tournament value was not so important.

I would say when you are so much dominating in offense, your defense gets a bit leaky at times. That is true for every team and that is why most lower level teams focus on counter attack tactics. Simply because when a team is dominating on offense, their defensive line gets a bit ahead, and when you can stop them, do a great pass forward, then you are suddenly faced with a lot of defenders on their back heel.

This is why it looked like their defense was bad, not because their defense was actually bad but because they were dominating on offense. If this game was a bit more closer together then game would be in the middle and defense would stay in defense while offense would have been a little less.

[borovichok]

When this season champions League start one can assume that PSG will win the championship because of the front three Neymar, Messi and Mbappe they are the best in their positions but in what we are seeing they are not good in tracking back to help their defence, they leave alot of space behind them and that makes them weaker.now I think they are 4 favourites, the English sides Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea and the German champions Bayern Munich they are the four front runners

[judas]

It is really worrying to see Dortmund going down to the Europa League. Their situation was decided even before the last game which is really terrible for them. Normally, they should have left Sporting behind easily. But their having many missing players affected them in a quite bad way. Erling Haaland couldn't play in the game Sporting defeated them by 3-1 too and this was also bad for Dortmund. If they weren't this much absent, maybe they would have performed much better. This could also be a factor for Haaland to decide his future too by the way.

[borovichok]

It is really worrying to see Dortmund going down to the Europa League. Their situation was decided even before the last game which is really terrible for them. Normally, they should have left Sporting behind easily. But their having many missing players affected them in a quite bad way. Erling Haaland couldn't play in the game Sporting defeated them by 3-1 too and this was also bad for Dortmund. If they weren't this much absent, maybe they would have performed much better. This could also be a factor for Haaland to decide his future too by the way.

You are making it look as if Dortmund will be missed or they are one big club that are suppose to win this season champions League, the likes of Dortmund are suppose to be in the Europa League they don't have lot of stars that the champions League crave for only Harland,if is PSG or mancity or even juventus going out then is supposed to be a discussion not Dortmund.

[CryptoBuds]

It is really worrying to see Dortmund going down to the Europa League. Their situation was decided even before the last game which is really terrible for them. Normally, they should have left Sporting behind easily. But their having many missing players affected them in a quite bad way. Erling Haaland couldn't play in the game Sporting defeated them by 3-1 too and this was also bad for Dortmund. If they weren't this much absent, maybe they would have performed much better. This could also be a factor for Haaland to decide his future too by the way.

You are making it look as if Dortmund will be missed or they are one big club that are suppose to win this season champions League, the likes of Dortmund are suppose to be in the Europa League they don't have lot of stars that the champions League crave for only Harland,if is PSG or mancity or even juventus going out then is supposed to be a discussion not Dortmund.

Dortmund are not the favorites to win the Champions League. Their squad is good enough to win the Europa League title. But my idea was that Dortmund could make it to the second round, because the other teams in their group are not very strong. I thought Ajax from Group C and Dortmund would advance to the next round. If Haaland could have performed in all the matches, maybe Dortmund could have gone to the next round.

[jostorres]

It is really worrying to see Dortmund going down to the Europa League. Their situation was decided even before the last game which is really terrible for them. Normally, they should have left Sporting behind easily. But their having many missing players affected them in a quite bad way. Erling Haaland couldn't play in the game Sporting defeated them by 3-1 too and this was also bad for Dortmund. If they weren't this much absent, maybe they would have performed much better. This could also be a factor for Haaland to decide his future too by the way.

Dortmund's start was very good in Champions League, and they won two games even these were not something special but still their start was good but suddenly two games against Ajax and some injuries ruined their all campaign now they have to drop in UEFA Europa League hopefully they will do some better in this as well for having some good for their next season.

In few other interesting matches we have very good matches waiting are between AC Milan vs Liverpool, FC Porto vs Atletico Madrid, because three teams fighting for one spot which is very interesting we can't predict about the result.

For Barcelona, I am feeling they are also dropping to UEFA Europa Cup, but we have to wait for official statement on last match day. 

[Minecache]

It is really worrying to see Dortmund going down to the Europa League. Their situation was decided even before the last game which is really terrible for them. Normally, they should have left Sporting behind easily. But their having many missing players affected them in a quite bad way. Erling Haaland couldn't play in the game Sporting defeated them by 3-1 too and this was also bad for Dortmund. If they weren't this much absent, maybe they would have performed much better. This could also be a factor for Haaland to decide his future too by the way.

Dortmund's start was very good in Champions League, and they won two games even these were not something special but still their start was good but suddenly two games against Ajax and some injuries ruined their all campaign now they have to drop in UEFA Europa League hopefully they will do some better in this as well for having some good for their next season.

In few other interesting matches we have very good matches waiting are between AC Milan vs Liverpool, FC Porto vs Atletico Madrid, because three teams fighting for one spot which is very interesting we can't predict about the result.

For Barcelona, I am feeling they are also dropping to UEFA Europa Cup, but we have to wait for official statement on last match day. 

In the group, I was almost certain that Dortmund is going to qualify for the next round because they were facing not so strong opponents in my opinion. Even though they started really well, they had some bad matches and that shows in the group standings, they are currently in the third position.
About Barcelona, I am not sure and waiting for the official statement.

[Maidak]

It is really worrying to see Dortmund going down to the Europa League. Their situation was decided even before the last game which is really terrible for them. Normally, they should have left Sporting behind easily. But their having many missing players affected them in a quite bad way. Erling Haaland couldn't play in the game Sporting defeated them by 3-1 too and this was also bad for Dortmund. If they weren't this much absent, maybe they would have performed much better. This could also be a factor for Haaland to decide his future too by the way.

You are making it look as if Dortmund will be missed or they are one big club that are suppose to win this season champions League, the likes of Dortmund are suppose to be in the Europa League they don't have lot of stars that the champions League crave for only Harland,if is PSG or mancity or even juventus going out then is supposed to be a discussion not Dortmund.

Dortmund are not the favorites to win the Champions League. Their squad is good enough to win the Europa League title. But my idea was that Dortmund could make it to the second round, because the other teams in their group are not very strong. I thought Ajax from Group C and Dortmund would advance to the next round. If Haaland could have performed in all the matches, maybe Dortmund could have gone to the next round.

Yes exactly what I think because the opponent that Dortmund had in their group was not so strong. At least not strong enough by Dortmund's standard. I also thought that they will surely qualify along with ajax. But as Haaland couldn't play all the matches, Dortmund really felt like they are missing their real striker.

[maju69]

The Manchester City vs PSG game was important in terms of taking the lead or guaranteeing it. If Manchester City won, they were going to guarantee promoting being the leader of their group. And they succeeded. I watched the most of the game and Manchester City were really highly dominant against PSG. But it was totally normal to me as City are nearly always like this in their home games. Even if PSG scored the first goal, City still turned the game around and won by 2-1. Congrats to them as they achieved their goal for the group stage.

That match was heavily dominated by Man city in their usual fashion and I was also expecting PSG to match city's attacking prowess but it wasn't much and city being the best team, won. Although they won't meet again for group stage games, I would be really love to see them meet again but towards the end of the competition ^Semi final or finaks of two big and dominant teams yet to win their UCL title.

Man City victory over WestHam made them move up to 2nd place temporarily, displacing Liverpool's position. With a thin position and still competing with each other to catch up with Chelsea who are undefeated until the end of the season. There is still a chance for City to add points as soon as their opponent is Aston Villa and who can be used to add points again.

[Iranus]

When this season champions League start one can assume that PSG will win the championship because of the front three Neymar, Messi and Mbappe they are the best in their positions but in what we are seeing they are not good in tracking back to help their defence, they leave alot of space behind them and that makes them weaker.now I think they are 4 favourites, the English sides Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea and the German champions Bayern Munich they are the four front runners

PSG did make their forward really strong but there will always be a hole in both midfield and defense with this lineup. Because all three of them, Messi, Neymar, and mbappe are real attacking players and they will always try to make interesting plays. But their defense has to back them up to point and if they face any counter-attacks. But that doesn't seem to be the case right now.

[KTChampions]

City won, but I must admit that in this match its defense was disgusting. If PSG were a little more successful in attack, they could at least draw and maybe even win. In fact, both teams did not play in the best way, perhaps this can be explained by the fact that the tournament value was not so important.

I would say when you are so much dominating in offense, your defense gets a bit leaky at times. That is true for every team and that is why most lower level teams focus on counter attack tactics. Simply because when a team is dominating on offense, their defensive line gets a bit ahead, and when you can stop them, do a great pass forward, then you are suddenly faced with a lot of defenders on their back heel.

This is why it looked like their defense was bad, not because their defense was actually bad but because they were dominating on offense. If this game was a bit more closer together then game would be in the middle and defense would stay in defense while offense would have been a little less.

In general, I agree with you, but I think that this does not apply to this match (when a team is constantly in attack, its defensive lines rise high and when the ball passes to the opponent, quick counterattacks easily pass the defensive lines). City looked bad at times, not because of strategy, but because of individual careless actions. They were just lucky that the opponent was unable to realize these mistakes.