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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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November 30, 2021, 04:16:24 AM
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There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
But last match Liverpool become terrible for Milan to get three points, not easy defeat Liverpool have perfect result on all champion league match, success win on five match before make Liverpool become the only one team success get all point on stage group. Maybe Liverpool will play with not all important player but they can make Milan failed to pass 1/8 finals stage.
The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.
The scenario AC Milan hopes for is a win against Liverpool and Porto vs Atletico Madrid expect a draw to qualify for the next round, and it is highly unlikely because Porto and Atletico Madrid will have the ambition to win to qualify for the next round.

It looks like AC Milan will focus on winning the game against Liverpool and Liverpool will not reduce their game because this is a prestigious match.

The competition in Group B is still very interesting, because there are three teams who still have a chance to accompany Liverpool to qualify
for the next round. AC Milan will face Liverpool, it should be a match that is easily predictable. But the problem is that Liverpool have already
qualified for the next round as group B winners. So there is a possibility that Jurgen Klopp will rotate players and will not field his main players.
Moreover, approaching the end of the year, the schedule of matches is getting tighter, I think Klopp wants to minimize the possibility of player
injury by not fielding some of his main players in the match against AC Milan. If that was the case, AC Milan should have won the game.
But AC Milan won't necessarily qualify if Porto beat Atletico. So it is very exciting to know the final results of the final round of the Champions
League group stage.

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November 30, 2021, 04:44:23 AM
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In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.

This will be difficult because their performance is very much different, Especially if we look at AC Milan's last 5 matches in all competitions, They can only win the match against athletico and after that nothing else. In contrast to the Liverpool match which is so overpowered.
I myself really doubt they beat Liverpool in this match.
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November 30, 2021, 07:04:41 AM
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There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
But last match Liverpool become terrible for Milan to get three points, not easy defeat Liverpool have perfect result on all champion league match, success win on five match before make Liverpool become the only one team success get all point on stage group. Maybe Liverpool will play with not all important player but they can make Milan failed to pass 1/8 finals stage.
The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.
The scenario AC Milan hopes for is a win against Liverpool and Porto vs Atletico Madrid expect a draw to qualify for the next round, and it is highly unlikely because Porto and Atletico Madrid will have the ambition to win to qualify for the next round.

It looks like AC Milan will focus on winning the game against Liverpool and Liverpool will not reduce their game because this is a prestigious match.

The competition in Group B is still very interesting, because there are three teams who still have a chance to accompany Liverpool to qualify
for the next round. AC Milan will face Liverpool, it should be a match that is easily predictable. But the problem is that Liverpool have already
qualified for the next round as group B winners. So there is a possibility that Jurgen Klopp will rotate players and will not field his main players.
Moreover, approaching the end of the year, the schedule of matches is getting tighter, I think Klopp wants to minimize the possibility of player
injury by not fielding some of his main players in the match against AC Milan. If that was the case, AC Milan should have won the game.
But AC Milan won't necessarily qualify if Porto beat Atletico. So it is very exciting to know the final results of the final round of the Champions
League group stage.

In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.

This will be difficult because their performance is very much different, Especially if we look at AC Milan's last 5 matches in all competitions, They can only win the match against athletico and after that nothing else. In contrast to the Liverpool match which is so overpowered.
I myself really doubt they beat Liverpool in this match.

I too feel that Klopp won’t put a strong team as it’s already hectic for the player’s, hence he may use the opportunity to test Liverpool’s bench strength and even then one should not underestimate Liverpool. Furthermore if Ac Milan wants to beat Liverpool then they’ll need to play some outstanding football, but currently they’re unable to do so, hence let’s hope that they’ll play well against Liverpool and win the fixture.
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November 30, 2021, 08:54:02 AM
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Manchester City are always favourite to win the championship every season untill they reach the quarter finals then guadiola will start his experimental and lose a game he is supposed to win,but I still rate them though in winning the champions League,I see Liverpool as contenders as long as they keep mo Salah fit,for me right now Bayern Munich is the favourite.
Recently we have many seasons with Manchester City was hot favourite for this title, but sadly they have never been able to win, and I am sure this year they are again not going to win this title because few teams are much better and having good combinations for winning this year's title and same happening to Bayern they are very good quality team with many extraordinary players, but they are also not going to win we have Chelsea and Liverpool much better teams for this year's title even It's too early, but surely these are main contenders for this year's title as PSG is also still need to fix few issues which are not allowing them to have some better results with very heavily star-studded team not able to give perfect results.

We have few other teams also having good record and can create upset on their day are Inter and Real Madrid for this season which was full of entertainment and upsets after Covid-19 which is again hanging around us.
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November 30, 2021, 09:24:12 AM
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Manchester City are always favourite to win the championship every season untill they reach the quarter finals then guadiola will start his experimental and lose a game he is supposed to win,but I still rate them though in winning the champions League,I see Liverpool as contenders as long as they keep mo Salah fit,for me right now Bayern Munich is the favourite.

With a lineup like this and a manager like Guardiola, Manchester City will always be one of the favourite teams to win the CL championship. So far, they have reached even the final (which happened in the last season) but they have been eliminated by Chelsea. As far as I have heard, Guardiola is thinking of leaving Manchester City in the near future. Before this, I'm quite sure that Manchester City players and Guardiola all would like to win the championship. But they have big opponents this season like always. Maybe they can make it to there this time.

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November 30, 2021, 09:35:34 AM
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The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
I hope they didn't, Liverpool is still on fire, when they loosen up the games it could be affected for another game in the premier league. I hope Klopp doesn't change the formation within the full team like usual, Salah still has a chance to create a new record in the champions league. Right now, Salah is the top score in the champions league but it is possible he will defeat Lewandowski with 8 goals. While Milan, only miracle to bring the team to 2nd round, only if Porto vs Atletico ties.


I am pretty sure that Klopp will give some of his usual starting eleven some time to rest in the game vs Milan and i also don't really think that this has an impact for the next games to come, at least not an negative impact. There are so many games in the english league and they have 2 cup competitions on top so every possibility where you can give your players that have a lot of time on the field a rest is very welcome and needed.
I don't think though that Liverpool will play with a complete B-Squad because the also have a responsibility towards the other clubs of the group. Everyone of the other 3 teams can still reach the knock out stage of the Champions League. Therefore Liverpool can not just give the game away for free.
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November 30, 2021, 09:41:32 AM
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In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.

This will be difficult because their performance is very much different, Especially if we look at AC Milan's last 5 matches in all competitions, They can only win the match against athletico and after that nothing else. In contrast to the Liverpool match which is so overpowered.
I myself really doubt they beat Liverpool in this match.
Basically Liverpool must prioritize the EPL for now, because in the UCL Liverpool have definitely qualified. If later against Milan, Liverpool is still targeting 3 points, then obviously Liverpool prefers to prioritize their prestige in the UCL which I don't think is important for now. Because after all, after Milan was able to win away yesterday against Atlético, at least Milan again has hope of being able to qualify and so also in the last match against Liverpool of course Milan will fight hard to win at the San Siro.

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November 30, 2021, 12:00:27 PM
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Barcelona's qualification is depend on the outcome of the game between Benfica and Dynomo Kiev; if Dynomo Kiev holds Benfica to a draw or a win, Barcelona will automatically qualify, even if they lose against Bayern Munich. They have a good chance of qualifying.

In the Champions League, I've learnt not to underestimate underdogs; the underdogs always rise to the top of the standings.
It is certain that Benfica will win with Dynamo Kiev of course Benfica will not let it go I just looked at the previous statistics and always distinguish if the difference is far then my assumption is that Dynamo Kiev will not win, although I also do not underestimate the underdog team.The efforts of Barcelona and Benfica will both fight to win but for me still only take my conclusion about this prediction barca 30% of bayern wins.
What makes you think Benfica will easily defeat Dynamo Kiev? Dynamo Kiev will be looking for their first win in the competition, and since it is their final match, they will not make it easy for Benfica. If Benfica must qualify, they must battle Dynamo, and I am confident Bayern Munich will defeat Barcelona.

Which thread to discuss the ongoing Balon d'or

Is there any other dedicated thread to discuss Balloon d'or? Or no, I think here fits to discuss it.
Robert Lewandoski is awarded the best striker of the year. A title that sounds new to me. Was this created to rub him the Balloon d'or twice?
Robbed? I'm not sure about this because statistically, Measi had a better season than Lewandosky last season, and Lewa had a better 2020 and deserved the award, but the event was canceled due to Covid19 measures, and no one can blame them. Messi deserved the award for 2021, but the biggest snub was the goalkeeper award, Mendy was robbed.

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November 30, 2021, 12:10:27 PM
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Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid... I wonder which of them will manage to continue on their way in the Champions League after the last group matches. I must admit that I'm favouring and supporting Milan in this competition. They are going to play against the toughest competitor of the group though. But Liverpool have already secured their leadership. This might be a big opportunity for Milan to win. And then, Milan will hope for the Porto - Atletico Madrid match to end in a draw or Atletico to win with a score that they won't be able to leave Milan behind.

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November 30, 2021, 02:23:09 PM
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Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid... I wonder which of them will manage to continue on their way in the Champions League after the last group matches. I must admit that I'm favouring and supporting Milan in this competition. They are going to play against the toughest competitor of the group though. But Liverpool have already secured their leadership. This might be a big opportunity for Milan to win. And then, Milan will hope for the Porto - Atletico Madrid match to end in a draw or Atletico to win with a score that they won't be able to leave Milan behind.
For Milan, I think it will be very difficult to qualify this season, because apart from they have to beat Liverpool, Milan's qualification is also very dependent on the results of other matches later, I think Atletico Madrid and Porto seem to have a greater chance of qualifying for the last 16, because can It is said that Milan must win by a big score if later Athletico manages to beat Porto to win the possible odds via head to head.

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Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid... I wonder which of them will manage to continue on their way in the Champions League after the last group matches. I must admit that I'm favouring and supporting Milan in this competition. They are going to play against the toughest competitor of the group though. But Liverpool have already secured their leadership. This might be a big opportunity for Milan to win. And then, Milan will hope for the Porto - Atletico Madrid match to end in a draw or Atletico to win with a score that they won't be able to leave Milan behind.
For Milan, I think it will be very difficult to qualify this season, because apart from they have to beat Liverpool, Milan's qualification is also very dependent on the results of other matches later, I think Atletico Madrid and Porto seem to have a greater chance of qualifying for the last 16, because can It is said that Milan must win by a big score if later Athletico manages to beat Porto to win the possible odds via head to head.

This is the toughest group in the Champions League. Liverpool, Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid. All the teams have full qualification or ability to qualify for the top 16. Those who perform well on the field will advance to the next round. Porto will play in the next match against Madrid. Milan will play against Liverpool. Either team can win these two matches. Since it is a do or die match. So it is difficult to make predictions in these matches. However, the chances of the home team winning will be a bit higher.

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November 30, 2021, 04:58:53 PM
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Which thread to discuss the ongoing Balon d'or

Is there any other dedicated thread to discuss Balloon d'or? Or no, I think here fits to discuss it.
Robert Lewandoski is awarded the best striker of the year. A title that sounds new to me. Was this created to rub him the Balloon d'or twice?
Robbed? I'm not sure about this because statistically, Measi had a better season than Lewandosky last season, and Lewa had a better 2020 and deserved the award, but the event was canceled due to Covid19 measures, and no one can blame them. Messi deserved the award for 2021, but the biggest snub was the goalkeeper award, Mendy was robbed.

I think that Messi's duties of this one are at least more than the last year's one. And honestly speaking I really don't have much faith in these awards anymore of FIFA. I am even starting to lose faith in FIFA altogether because it is now being controlled by some money-seeking politicians and people in power. Just look at where the last World Cup was hosted and where the World Cup is going to take place this time and I think you will understand.

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November 30, 2021, 05:16:56 PM
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Interesting odds before the final round:

UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - To Qualify From Group E - FC Barcelona
No
1,72
Yes
2,00

UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - To Qualify From Group E - Benfica Lisbon
Yes
1,72
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2,00

In my opinion, both highlighted results look like easy money. Sometimes miracles happen, but on average, the outcome is already predetermined.

UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - To Qualify From Group B - Atletico Madrid
No
1,22

Yes
4,00
UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - To Qualify From Group B - AC Milan
No
1,27
Yes
3,50

This surprises me very much. Atlético has obvious chances to advance to the next stage - why such a strange odds?

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November 30, 2021, 05:20:04 PM
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Which thread to discuss the ongoing Balon d'or

Is there any other dedicated thread to discuss Balloon d'or? Or no, I think here fits to discuss it.
Robert Lewandoski is awarded the best striker of the year. A title that sounds new to me. Was this created to rub him the Balloon d'or twice?
Robbed? I'm not sure about this because statistically, Measi had a better season than Lewandosky last season, and Lewa had a better 2020 and deserved the award, but the event was canceled due to Covid19 measures, and no one can blame them. Messi deserved the award for 2021, but the biggest snub was the goalkeeper award, Mendy was robbed.

What many do not realize is that Lewandowski was the most deserving candidate and the only contender for the Ballon d'Or in the 2020 season. But this year's Ballon d'Or has been awarded in 2021, and this year Messi is ahead in the statistics. Although Messi has conceded fewer goals this season than Lewandowski, Messi is ahead in assists and title wins. Moreover, in other statistics, Messi is far ahead. He is eligible for this year's Ballon d'Or and he has been able to achieve it.

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November 30, 2021, 05:30:33 PM
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It is certain that Benfica will win with Dynamo Kiev of course Benfica will not let it go I just looked at the previous statistics and always distinguish if the difference is far then my assumption is that Dynamo Kiev will not win, although I also do not underestimate the underdog team.The efforts of Barcelona and Benfica will both fight to win but for me still only take my conclusion about this prediction barca 30% of bayern wins.
What makes you think Benfica will easily defeat Dynamo Kiev? Dynamo Kiev will be looking for their first win in the competition, and since it is their final match, they will not make it easy for Benfica. If Benfica must qualify, they must battle Dynamo, and I am confident Bayern Munich will defeat Barcelona.
It's the same thing you make sure that Bayern Munich will win while the opponent is Barcelona, of course it won't be easy and who knows the reverse direction, the same thing Benfica can also suffer the same fate.
I only have faith that Benfica can win this as my prediction, then if the match starts of course no one will know the result because in the last game every team will continue to try to win.
But in this match I will bet on a win between Bayern and Benfica.

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November 30, 2021, 05:35:33 PM
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Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid... I wonder which of them will manage to continue on their way in the Champions League after the last group matches. I must admit that I'm favouring and supporting Milan in this competition. They are going to play against the toughest competitor of the group though. But Liverpool have already secured their leadership. This might be a big opportunity for Milan to win. And then, Milan will hope for the Porto - Atletico Madrid match to end in a draw or Atletico to win with a score that they won't be able to leave Milan behind.
For Milan, I think it will be very difficult to qualify this season, because apart from they have to beat Liverpool, Milan's qualification is also very dependent on the results of other matches later, I think Atletico Madrid and Porto seem to have a greater chance of qualifying for the last 16, because can It is said that Milan must win by a big score if later Athletico manages to beat Porto to win the possible odds via head to head.
This is the toughest group in the Champions League. Liverpool, Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid. All the teams have full qualification or ability to qualify for the top 16. Those who perform well on the field will advance to the next round. Porto will play in the next match against Madrid. Milan will play against Liverpool. Either team can win these two matches. Since it is a do or die match. So it is difficult to make predictions in these matches. However, the chances of the home team winning will be a bit higher.

Well, the chances of the home team winning are always higher. But I'd really don't think that it is going to matter too much here as it is really do or die situation for almost all of them. But if I do have to make predictions I think I will say that Liverpool wins against Milan and Atletico Madrid wins against Porto.

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November 30, 2021, 06:33:28 PM
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Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid... I wonder which of them will manage to continue on their way in the Champions League after the last group matches. I must admit that I'm favouring and supporting Milan in this competition. They are going to play against the toughest competitor of the group though. But Liverpool have already secured their leadership. This might be a big opportunity for Milan to win. And then, Milan will hope for the Porto - Atletico Madrid match to end in a draw or Atletico to win with a score that they won't be able to leave Milan behind.
For Milan, I think it will be very difficult to qualify this season, because apart from they have to beat Liverpool, Milan's qualification is also very dependent on the results of other matches later, I think Atletico Madrid and Porto seem to have a greater chance of qualifying for the last 16, because can It is said that Milan must win by a big score if later Athletico manages to beat Porto to win the possible odds via head to head.
This is the toughest group in the Champions League. Liverpool, Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid. All the teams have full qualification or ability to qualify for the top 16. Those who perform well on the field will advance to the next round. Porto will play in the next match against Madrid. Milan will play against Liverpool. Either team can win these two matches. Since it is a do or die match. So it is difficult to make predictions in these matches. However, the chances of the home team winning will be a bit higher.
Well, the chances of the home team winning are always higher. But I'd really don't think that it is going to matter too much here as it is really do or die situation for almost all of them. But if I do have to make predictions I think I will say that Liverpool wins against Milan and Atletico Madrid wins against Porto.

I have enough doubts about whether Liverpool will win against Milan. Liverpool have probably won all their matches and have already qualified for the next round. However, Milan is not a weak opponent. Since Liverpool have already qualified, their match against Milan is not important. In this situation, Milan has a good chance to win this match. Atletico Madrid Name Porto's match I would say Atletico Madrid would win if both Suarez and Griezmann could score.

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November 30, 2021, 06:39:16 PM
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It is certain that Benfica will win with Dynamo Kiev of course Benfica will not let it go I just looked at the previous statistics and always distinguish if the difference is far then my assumption is that Dynamo Kiev will not win, although I also do not underestimate the underdog team.The efforts of Barcelona and Benfica will both fight to win but for me still only take my conclusion about this prediction barca 30% of bayern wins.
What makes you think Benfica will easily defeat Dynamo Kiev? Dynamo Kiev will be looking for their first win in the competition, and since it is their final match, they will not make it easy for Benfica. If Benfica must qualify, they must battle Dynamo, and I am confident Bayern Munich will defeat Barcelona.
It's the same thing you make sure that Bayern Munich will win while the opponent is Barcelona, of course it won't be easy and who knows the reverse direction, the same thing Benfica can also suffer the same fate.
I only have faith that Benfica can win this as my prediction, then if the match starts of course no one will know the result because in the last game every team will continue to try to win.
But in this match I will bet on a win between Bayern and Benfica.

Well even though I am a Barcelona fan, But I have to say sadly, I still don't think that Barcelona is going to win against Bayern Munich. But maybe the result will not be as disappointing and embarrassing as there were before.
And I think Benfica will be determined to defeat Dynamo Kyiv because they will not want to drop points in this match at any cost.

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November 30, 2021, 07:01:33 PM
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Well even though I am a Barcelona fan, But I have to say sadly, I still don't think that Barcelona is going to win against Bayern Munich. But maybe the result will not be as disappointing and embarrassing as there were before.
And I think Benfica will be determined to defeat Dynamo Kyiv because they will not want to drop points in this match at any cost.
If you are a Barcelona fan then you should be optimistic to see your team win that game. I know Bayern Munich is a very difficult opponent for Barcelona in recent seasons, and especially this season Bayern Munich is far superior to Barcelona. However, we can only maintain hope and optimism because losing before the game is not natural. So regain your optimism and let's see what Xavi can bring to his team at the moment.

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November 30, 2021, 07:15:32 PM
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Which thread to discuss the ongoing Balon d'or
Is there any other dedicated thread to discuss Balloon d'or? Or no, I think here fits to discuss it.
Robert Lewandoski is awarded the best striker of the year. A title that sounds new to me. Was this created to rub him the Balloon d'or twice?
Robbed? I'm not sure about this because statistically, Measi had a better season than Lewandosky last season, and Lewa had a better 2020 and deserved the award, but the event was canceled due to Covid19 measures, and no one can blame them. Messi deserved the award for 2021, but the biggest snub was the goalkeeper award, Mendy was robbed.
What many do not realize is that Lewandowski was the most deserving candidate and the only contender for the Ballon d'Or in the 2020 season. But this year's Ballon d'Or has been awarded in 2021, and this year Messi is ahead in the statistics. Although Messi has conceded fewer goals this season than Lewandowski, Messi is ahead in assists and title wins. Moreover, in other statistics, Messi is far ahead. He is eligible for this year's Ballon d'Or and he has been able to achieve it.

Well, when we look at the states there Messi is far ahead of Lewandowski. But the reason that everyone is saying Lewandowski should have won is maybe because he had really a big impact on his team. And his team always seems to win. Maybe people were thinking more about team performance instead of individual performance.



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