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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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December 03, 2021, 07:56:02 AM
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There is no magic,Barcelona cannot qualify,the way they played,they didn't deserve to qualify as well.The Barca I know for aggression,possession,just changed to be a mere team that different clubs are flogging anyhow without them showing up a fight that they are Barcelona.

But I believe now that Xavi has come,things will change,and ofcourse they have been doing well since he became their coach as well.

We have to keep in mind that this Barcelona, no longer "exists". They will now have to create a new identity. This style is a style that was associated with a set of players with certain characteristics, and players of those that don't always exist.

And today, we can see how despite having won a lot, they mismanaged the money they had/earned, and now they have bigger problems - lack of right players for their style, and lack of money to hire these players.

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December 03, 2021, 09:35:36 AM
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When it comes to the group D, I see that Real Madrid and Inter both are safe in terms of guaranteeing their qualifying. But there is still a competition between them for the 1st position. And in the game in Santiago Bernabeu, Inter have to win to take the lead. Real Madrid defeated them in Giuseppe Meazza so this is going to be even harder for Inter. I expect a draw in the worst case and maybe Real Madrid could win again.

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December 03, 2021, 10:19:04 AM
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After seeing how the Ballon D'or awards were conducted, am pretty sure many of you would agree that if we had to point a winner from all the contenders, Robert Lewandowski was the most deserving player that night but whatever happens with the voting system clearly doesn't show the most hard working player of that period. Btw I hear Messi wants to pass it on to  Robert Lewandowski , how far as this gone???

Anyway after this Ballon D'or  nightmare am expecting Bayern Munich not to show mercy on Barcelona on the 8th after their former talisman got it shocking the world. My prediction  Bayern Munich 4-0 Barcelona

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December 03, 2021, 10:53:16 AM
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When it comes to the group D, I see that Real Madrid and Inter both are safe in terms of guaranteeing their qualifying. But there is still a competition between them for the 1st position. And in the game in Santiago Bernabeu, Inter have to win to take the lead. Real Madrid defeated them in Giuseppe Meazza so this is going to be even harder for Inter. I expect a draw in the worst case and maybe Real Madrid could win again.

Inter Milan and Real Madrid have certainly qualified for the last 16 of the Champions League but the group winners will be determined in the last match of the two, where in the first meeting Real Madrid won at the Giuseppe Meazza Stadium with a score of 0-1. when facing real Madrid Estadio Santiago Bernabeu especially considering that Real Madrid is in an impressive performance this season maybe a draw is very suitable for both teams and Real Madrid as the leader of Group D Champions League and Inter qualify as group runners-up

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December 03, 2021, 11:04:07 AM
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I think that I'm going to watch the Milan - Liverpool game on the next week. It is a crucial game for Milan to have a chance for continuing in this tournament. And the last Liverpool - Milan game was really delightful. Despite Liverpool's scoring first, Milan turned the game around. But Liverpool also did the same and won by 3-2. If we consider that Milan made them big difficulties in Anfield, they can really beat Liverpool in San Siro.
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December 03, 2021, 11:08:26 AM
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Barcelona should have finished the job in the game against Benfica in Camp Nou. If they won that, they would have guaranteed qualifying for the next round of the Champions League and would have played comfortable in their last game. But the Benfica game ended up with a draw by 0-0 and Barcelona made their job much difficult. And they are very unlucky that they're going to play against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena in their last game. And they have no choice rather than winning. Because Benfica would be able to defeat D. Kyiv easily I guess. And the Bayern Munich I've known so far still wouldn't be okay to a loss even though they have won all of their five games in the group.
There is no magic,Barcelona cannot qualify,the way they played,they didn't deserve to qualify as well.The Barca I know for aggression,possession,just changed to be a mere team that different clubs are flogging anyhow without them showing up a fight that they are Barcelona.

But I believe now that Xavi has come,things will change,and ofcourse they have been doing well since he became their coach as well.

I mean in the end it is not really that surprising that Barcelona is not performing that well this season right? You always have to consider the circumstances. Barca was in a pretty unstable financial situation even before the covid pandemic happened which delivered a heavy blow to all the clubs because they had no more income from selling tickets. That basically broke Barcelonas Back and they could not afford to prolong the contract with Lionel Messi even though he did not want to leave Barca. Now they have to play with a lot of young players that are not ready yet for the big games but they still need to play because they have no one else.
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December 03, 2021, 11:12:47 AM
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After seeing how the Ballon D'or awards were conducted, am pretty sure many of you would agree that if we had to point a winner from all the contenders, Robert Lewandowski was the most deserving player that night but whatever happens with the voting system clearly doesn't show the most hard working player of that period. Btw I hear Messi wants to pass it on to  Robert Lewandowski , how far as this gone???

Returning is just bullshit to look pretty.
Unfortunately, the Ballon D'or award has been totally distorted a few years ago. It is no longer a really fair and meaningful prize. It is clearly noted that the winner is part of someone's agenda or interest behind.

This year Messi would be the player who should never have won.

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December 03, 2021, 12:54:31 PM
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Chelsea and Juventus are still competing to capture the leadership by the last group match. Chelsea are ahead of Juventus despite having the equal points because they werre better in their head-to-head matches. And there is an obvious thing that Chelsea will keep their position as Zenit already qualified for the EL and have not any chance for the CL anymore. They would defeat Zenit with a nice score.
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December 03, 2021, 03:49:18 PM
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I think that I'm going to watch the Milan - Liverpool game on the next week. It is a crucial game for Milan to have a chance for continuing in this tournament. And the last Liverpool - Milan game was really delightful. Despite Liverpool's scoring first, Milan turned the game around. But Liverpool also did the same and won by 3-2. If we consider that Milan made them big difficulties in Anfield, they can really beat Liverpool in San Siro.
What a battle it is in group B between Porto, Athletico Madrid and AC Milan, only one of this teams will join Liverpool in the next round, obviously the reds are already through and have topped the group. Imo, I think Milan could actually have the advantage cause Liverpool have qualified already and may decide to field a very young and inexperienced team and through that way give fringe players some game time, and as such, Milan might find it easy to win, and then since Athletico Madrid and Porto will both be playing for their lives, they could end up with a draw which would see Milan go through.

Having said that, anything is possible in this group, it's still possible for either Milan, Porto and Athletico Madrid to go through, it's going to be a crazy and unpredictable final matchday in group B, personally, I'd want Ac Milan to qualify for the round of 16, it's been a long time we saw them in that stage in the CL.



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December 03, 2021, 03:59:33 PM
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I think that I'm going to watch the Milan - Liverpool game on the next week. It is a crucial game for Milan to have a chance for continuing in this tournament. And the last Liverpool - Milan game was really delightful. Despite Liverpool's scoring first, Milan turned the game around. But Liverpool also did the same and won by 3-2. If we consider that Milan made them big difficulties in Anfield, they can really beat Liverpool in San Siro.
What a battle it is in group B between Porto, Athletico Madrid and AC Milan, only one of this teams will join Liverpool in the next round, obviously the reds are already through and have topped the group. Imo, I think Milan could actually have the advantage cause Liverpool have qualified already and may decide to field a very young and inexperienced team and through that way give fringe players some game time, and as such, Milan might find it easy to win, and then since Athletico Madrid and Porto will both be playing for their lives, they could end up with a draw which would see Milan go through.

Having said that, anything is possible in this group, it's still possible for either Milan, Porto and Athletico Madrid to go through, it's going to be a crazy and unpredictable final matchday in group B, personally, I'd want Ac Milan to qualify for the round of 16, it's been a long time we saw them in that stage in the CL.

Anything can happen in this kind of a group indeed. There are three teams that maintain their opportunity to move on. Maybe Porto seem the most comfortable team among them as they are one point ahead of the others. But their competitor is Atletico Madrid on the last week in the end. It is not a very easy game for them obviously.
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December 03, 2021, 04:04:23 PM
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Chelsea and Juventus are still competing to capture the leadership by the last group match. Chelsea are ahead of Juventus despite having the equal points because they werre better in their head-to-head matches. And there is an obvious thing that Chelsea will keep their position as Zenit already qualified for the EL and have not any chance for the CL anymore. They would defeat Zenit with a nice score.
At least they will now show an intense game because they want to stay in the top position and don't want to be in the second position.
I think Juve themselves will maximize their match even though these two teams have been confirmed to qualify but I'm very sure they don't want to be lazy in this match

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December 03, 2021, 04:04:47 PM
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I think that I'm going to watch the Milan - Liverpool game on the next week. It is a crucial game for Milan to have a chance for continuing in this tournament. And the last Liverpool - Milan game was really delightful. Despite Liverpool's scoring first, Milan turned the game around. But Liverpool also did the same and won by 3-2. If we consider that Milan made them big difficulties in Anfield, they can really beat Liverpool in San Siro.
What a battle it is in group B between Porto, Athletico Madrid and AC Milan, only one of this teams will join Liverpool in the next round, obviously the reds are already through and have topped the group. Imo, I think Milan could actually have the advantage cause Liverpool have qualified already and may decide to field a very young and inexperienced team and through that way give fringe players some game time, and as such, Milan might find it easy to win, and then since Athletico Madrid and Porto will both be playing for their lives, they could end up with a draw which would see Milan go through.

Having said that, anything is possible in this group, it's still possible for either Milan, Porto and Athletico Madrid to go through, it's going to be a crazy and unpredictable final matchday in group B, personally, I'd want Ac Milan to qualify for the round of 16, it's been a long time we saw them in that stage in the CL.

I only now noticed that Milan is in front of Atletico despite both having four points. So the goal difference is what counts first, not the away goals anymore. Yes, now I recall. The one advantage for Milan might be that Klopp will not send his best team onto the pitch. If I were Klopp, I would give some players a rest and make sure that I don't lose them because of a rather unimportant game. Still Porto has to either draw or lose or otherwise it's not going to happen for Milan. Very tough group. I must say that I always liked to watch Atletico in the final round. They have delivered so tough and exciting fights so often.

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December 03, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
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After seeing how the Ballon D'or awards were conducted, am pretty sure many of you would agree that if we had to point a winner from all the contenders, Robert Lewandowski was the most deserving player that night but whatever happens with the voting system clearly doesn't show the most hard working player of that period. Btw I hear Messi wants to pass it on to  Robert Lewandowski , how far as this gone???

Anyway after this Ballon D'or  nightmare am expecting Bayern Munich not to show mercy on Barcelona on the 8th after their former talisman got it shocking the world. My prediction  Bayern Munich 4-0 Barcelona

Even when Barcelona was in its prime Bayern Munich usually beat them big, so I don't see much point in justifying such a prediction based on the Ballon d'Or award. Now Barcelona is much weaker than Bayern and they should rather hope for Benfica's failure than that they can take at least one point in the Allianz arena.

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December 03, 2021, 05:34:32 PM
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When it comes to the group D, I see that Real Madrid and Inter both are safe in terms of guaranteeing their qualifying. But there is still a competition between them for the 1st position. And in the game in Santiago Bernabeu, Inter have to win to take the lead. Real Madrid defeated them in Giuseppe Meazza so this is going to be even harder for Inter. I expect a draw in the worst case and maybe Real Madrid could win again.
Real Madrid last encounter against Inter ended in their favor. Although, the match was tough for them, but fortunately, Rodrygo was able to score a goal towards the end of the game. However, the both teams will surely make it to the Round 16. Nevertheless, Inter won't want to be beaten twice by Real Madrid, so they will try their possible best in winning against Real Madrid on Tuesday. I think Real Madrid is the most favorite in the match, besides I won't be surprise if it eventually end in draw.



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December 03, 2021, 08:38:44 PM
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After seeing how the Ballon D'or awards were conducted, am pretty sure many of you would agree that if we had to point a winner from all the contenders, Robert Lewandowski was the most deserving player that night but whatever happens with the voting system clearly doesn't show the most hard working player of that period. Btw I hear Messi wants to pass it on to  Robert Lewandowski , how far as this gone???

Anyway after this Ballon D'or  nightmare am expecting Bayern Munich not to show mercy on Barcelona on the 8th after their former talisman got it shocking the world. My prediction  Bayern Munich 4-0 Barcelona
According to you. I am not saying that Lewa didn't deserve it at all, of course he did and if you ask anyone who voted and said Messi, their second choice would have been Lewa for sure without a doubt. The problem here is that we are talking about two great players and I doubt that people would mind if Lewa got it, but not everyone thinks that Messi getting it is corruption or undeserving or anything like that.

I am personally not shocked at all, look at how horrible Barcelona became without Messi, so it is clear to me that Messi deserved it as much as Lewa did as well. Once again, I am not saying Messi should have gotten it but I am also not saying Lewa should have neither, they both deserved it equally in my mind so this result wasn't really that much of a deal for me. I do not think what they would gain by beating Barcelona in an extra effort aside from extra fatigue, Messi doesn't play there anymore so it wouldn't really matter all that much. However if Bayern faces PSG, then I am expecting some chaos.

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December 03, 2021, 10:12:58 PM
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It looks like bad luck is for Barcelona because apart from having to play away, the opponent he will face is Bayern Munich which is one of the strongest teams in Europe. Also, this is the ultimate match that requires Barcelona to win to be able to ensure qualification, as Benfica looks like it is certain to win against Kyiv. Even in the past, when Barcelona were at their best, the fact that Bayern Munich could still beat Barcelona, I can't imagine what the final result will be like. I'm sure Bayern Munich will continue to play with a meaningful professional, they will stay serious and I'm not sure Xavi will be able to bring Barcelona to victory because for a draw it looks like it's still difficult for Barcelona to get.

The match will be tough for Barcelona if Bayern Munich form their full strength main squad. However, since this is not an important match for Bayern Ray. So Bayern's coach might even give a break to their key players. If the key players are not in the squad then Barcelona has a good chance of winning. Benfica, on the other hand, will play against Kyve. It looks like Benfica will win, but Kyve will definitely fight. Predicting such matches is often wrong.
If I was the coach of the Bayern I will field the best players I have at my disposal, even if Barcelona is not what it used to be you never know what it may happen in the later rounds, I would prefer to face Benfica instead of Barcelona, so it is better to eliminate Barcelona of the competition now when there is no risk at all to my team instead of trying to do it in a later round when my team will be at risk as well.



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December 04, 2021, 01:12:10 AM
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It looks like bad luck is for Barcelona because apart from having to play away, the opponent he will face is Bayern Munich which is one of the strongest teams in Europe. Also, this is the ultimate match that requires Barcelona to win to be able to ensure qualification, as Benfica looks like it is certain to win against Kyiv. Even in the past, when Barcelona were at their best, the fact that Bayern Munich could still beat Barcelona, I can't imagine what the final result will be like. I'm sure Bayern Munich will continue to play with a meaningful professional, they will stay serious and I'm not sure Xavi will be able to bring Barcelona to victory because for a draw it looks like it's still difficult for Barcelona to get.

The match will be tough for Barcelona if Bayern Munich form their full strength main squad. However, since this is not an important match for Bayern Ray. So Bayern's coach might even give a break to their key players. If the key players are not in the squad then Barcelona has a good chance of winning. Benfica, on the other hand, will play against Kyve. It looks like Benfica will win, but Kyve will definitely fight. Predicting such matches is often wrong.
If I was the coach of the Bayern I will field the best players I have at my disposal, even if Barcelona is not what it used to be you never know what it may happen in the later rounds, I would prefer to face Benfica instead of Barcelona, so it is better to eliminate Barcelona of the competition now when there is no risk at all to my team instead of trying to do it in a later round when my team will be at risk as well.
Everyone is afraid for Barcelona.  Everyone is believing Bayern Munich will win the match. No one is confidently sure Barcelona can perform wonders. Well it is so, unless Bayern will rest players.
Why would Bayern refuse to eliminate Barcelona when they know Barcelona can return to form and become a stumbling block for the.

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December 04, 2021, 03:06:15 AM
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England has now proven to always own the champions league,Before,it was always Bayern,Real Madrid, Barcelona and teams in other leagues before English teams,but now,England has emerged to be the home of football,where two English teams meet in champions league final.And that is to show English teams have improved.
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December 04, 2021, 03:19:44 AM
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Everyone is afraid for Barcelona.  Everyone is believing Bayern Munich will win the match. No one is confidently sure Barcelona can perform wonders. Well it is so, unless Bayern will rest players.
Why would Bayern refuse to eliminate Barcelona when they know Barcelona can return to form and become a stumbling block for the.

It's very delicate situation to be in for Barcelona, but the major factor is that Bayern Munich have nothing to play for but, I strongly disagree that they'd however bench some of their stars players because why would they do that ? Bundesliga is unlike the English and Spanish league with heavy schedule for the Christmas and New Year,  the last matches for the Bundesliga sides would be 18th of this after that until the second week of the new year. The only advantage Barcelona might have would be Bayern Munich not playing desperately since they have nothing to lose.

I want to hope Barcelona would make through the next stage regardless, and Bayern isn't invisible, If they can lose to Augsburg, they can lose to Barcelona, too.

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December 04, 2021, 03:59:29 AM
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Chelsea and Juventus are still competing to capture the leadership by the last group match. Chelsea are ahead of Juventus despite having the equal points because they werre better in their head-to-head matches. And there is an obvious thing that Chelsea will keep their position as Zenit already qualified for the EL and have not any chance for the CL anymore. They would defeat Zenit with a nice score.

I think Chelsea and Juventus will win with absolute certainty in the last game of the Champions League group stage, Chelsea and Juventus will both face a team that has no hope of advancing to the next round.

But still, the match is a match and it seems quite interesting to bet on, I feel that Chelsea and Juventus will not play seriously later, and I plan to choose their opponents in the betting market. What do you think?

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