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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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April 10, 2022, 07:36:28 AM
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Atletico Madrid - Manchester City game is approaching us now. Atletico Madrid are going to need to have a more attacking game plan at this point. Because they are already 1-0 behind now and they need to find that goal before their opponent. If they succeed, then things can go on very interestingly. Otherwise it is the end for Atletico Madrid I'm afraid.
For sure, they have to score asap and then they can Apply their defensive strategy otherwise city will find many spaces and can score alot of goals

It's not what Atletico Madrid want. They had hoped to keep the 0 in Manchester and then maybe end up with a 0-0. Now they have to make the game at home. I can't imagine them playing as conservative and defensive as they did in Manchester. They could play that game in the first half and then see if it will cost City a lot of strength in that first half. then you could consider playing on the attack in the 2nd half if the score is 0-0. Atletico don't really have a choice either, they have to win with 2 goals, so they will have to play offensively.
They can pass the round with 2 goals, but at the same time, they should not concede a goal. Atlético will probably look to keep the score if they take a 1-0 lead. If they take a 1-0 lead, trying to find positions in the City defense with counter attacks remains the most logical option for them. But of course they need to score at least 1 goal for this plan.
Do you think it is possible for Atletico to score in this second leg? Because even Atletico in the first leg really didn't try to make an attack which means Simeone really admits that Manchester City are a great team under Pep. Even though the second leg will be held at the Wanda Metropolitano but still, for me Manchester City are still too strong and they have different qualities and if Atletico take the opportunity to attack then Manchester City's counter-attack will certainly be faster and more dangerous. So in this case I personally really don't believe Atletico will be able to score a goal, the case in the first leg reflects that Atletico do not have the ability to be able to win the match.

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April 10, 2022, 07:43:41 AM
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Atletico Madrid - Manchester City game is approaching us now. Atletico Madrid are going to need to have a more attacking game plan at this point. Because they are already 1-0 behind now and they need to find that goal before their opponent. If they succeed, then things can go on very interestingly. Otherwise it is the end for Atletico Madrid I'm afraid.
For sure, they have to score asap and then they can Apply their defensive strategy otherwise city will find many spaces and can score alot of goals

It's not what Atletico Madrid want. They had hoped to keep the 0 in Manchester and then maybe end up with a 0-0. Now they have to make the game at home. I can't imagine them playing as conservative and defensive as they did in Manchester. They could play that game in the first half and then see if it will cost City a lot of strength in that first half. then you could consider playing on the attack in the 2nd half if the score is 0-0. Atletico don't really have a choice either, they have to win with 2 goals, so they will have to play offensively.
They can pass the round with 2 goals, but at the same time, they should not concede a goal. Atlético will probably look to keep the score if they take a 1-0 lead. If they take a 1-0 lead, trying to find positions in the City defense with counter attacks remains the most logical option for them. But of course they need to score at least 1 goal for this plan.
Do you think it is possible for Atletico to score in this second leg? Because even Atletico in the first leg really didn't try to make an attack which means Simeone really admits that Manchester City are a great team under Pep. Even though the second leg will be held at the Wanda Metropolitano but still, for me Manchester City are still too strong and they have different qualities and if Atletico take the opportunity to attack then Manchester City's counter-attack will certainly be faster and more dangerous. So in this case I personally really don't believe Atletico will be able to score a goal, the case in the first leg reflects that Atletico do not have the ability to be able to win the match.

Of course, I see Atlético Madrid's win rate as lower. It is also very difficult for them to score goals, but you know that Atletico Madrid, which has reached this stage, can surprise us. Remember the Manchester City vs Tottenham game. Many did not think Tottenham would be a possibility, but they beat them away. I am not saying that Atletico Madrid will do the same, but I want to mention that it is open to all possibilities.

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April 10, 2022, 08:29:26 AM
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There are several times that Bayern Munich was defeated in Leg 1 and they can win in Leg 2. They are only conceded 1 goal in Leg 1, they are still very possible to qualify for the next round. Villareal isn't a too weak team, they proved it by winning the Leg 1. But with the capability of Bayern Munich, we can predict that Bayern to win with big scores in Leg 2. Moreover, the Leg 2 will be held in Bayern home, it is their advantage.
For a team as big as Bayern who have experience in the Champions League, it's not something to worry about, they lost in the first leg.
Moreover, Bayern only lost by one goal on aggregate, that's something that Bayern are used to. It is very likely that Bayern will win
by a big score when playing in the second leg, like you said the second leg Bayern has the advantage of playing at home. So I'm pretty sure
Bayern can beat Villarreal in the second leg and Bayern will advance to the semifinals. Moreover, Bayern has a goal machine like Lewandowski
who doesn't need to doubt his goal-scoring ability. Villarreal was quite surprising to beat Bayern in the first leg, but with the quality of players
Villarreal have, I don't think they can knock Bayern out of the Champions League.

I absolutely agree. Even though Bayern Munich is going to face a little difficulty because they have a one goal deficit I think they will be able to overcome it easily and eventually beat their opponent in the second leg.
Bayern Munich is a really well polished team and I don't expect them to make any mistakes in the second leg. And Bayern Munich have been in this situation before so they know very well what to do and how to do it.

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April 10, 2022, 08:45:16 AM
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Atletico Madrid - Manchester City game is approaching us now. Atletico Madrid are going to need to have a more attacking game plan at this point. Because they are already 1-0 behind now and they need to find that goal before their opponent. If they succeed, then things can go on very interestingly. Otherwise it is the end for Atletico Madrid I'm afraid.
For sure, they have to score asap and then they can Apply their defensive strategy otherwise city will find many spaces and can score alot of goals

Manchester city is the biggest threat for Atletico Madrid  they need to try their best and Manchester City is not a team that will easily allow Atletico Madrid to have any chance of opportunities,  I think it will be much difficult for Atletico Madrid to win against Manchester City, Manchester city always take their game very serious in champions league.
The match between Atletico Madrid and Manchester City will be an interesting one. I am expecting Manchester City to advance to the next stage . But I don't agree that Atletico Madrid need to attack the match as it starts to be able to win. In my personal opinion, I think Atletico Madrid should also play their defensive football. If you attack Manchester City and they get a goal or two in the fist half, Atletico Madrid is gone. It will be better to play defence till around 70 minutes of the match, then they can come out to try their luck of getting 1 goal to push them to play if possible.

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April 10, 2022, 10:13:06 AM
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For a team as big as Bayern who have experience in the Champions League, it's not something to worry about, they lost in the first leg.
Moreover, Bayern only lost by one goal on aggregate, that's something that Bayern are used to. It is very likely that Bayern will win
by a big score when playing in the second leg, like you said the second leg Bayern has the advantage of playing at home.
We are not worried about Bayern, just surprised why they were defeated by Villareal. Bayern is superior in many aspects such as players' quality, experience in UCL, game stats, and other else. It was an unexpected result to see Bayern lose 0-1 in the Leg 1. I assume all football fans must predict that Bayern will be easy to win both in Leg 1 and Leg 2. But in reality, Bayern seems to have difficulties in scoring, even 1 goal only.

Let's see how Bayern bounces back in the Leg 2. They must use a different strategy and play more aggressively. If they use the same strategy as in the previous match, it isn't impossible if Bayern can be eliminated by a Spanish team, Villareal. Spanish team always gives a tight match in international competition, Bayern shouldn't underestimate them.

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April 10, 2022, 10:24:38 AM
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Personal Opinion: All teams left in the champions league quarter finals have an equal chance to proceed to the next round, is it Chelsea, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Benfica, Manchester City, Atletico Madrid, Villareal and Bayern Munich. I say this firstly  because there is no soft landing in the champions league and also because there are only a goal and 2 goal deficits which can be easily overturned

Chelsea vs Real Madrid, Real Madrid are 2 goals up against Chelsea and without away goal rule have to play to their utmost best to ensure they score atleast a goal in Spain and concede less than 3 goals

Liverpool va Benfica - Liverpool was found wanting defensively against Benfica as they went away with 2 goals advantage, Klopp needs to tidy up his defense because this second round, if Benfica take their chances could usurp and cause an upset

Manchester city vs Athletio Madrid and Villareal vs Bayern Munich - a goal defeat is the easiest to overturn in the champions league because you are just a mistake away from going to the next round or fighting for victory. Anything other than an excellent performance will ensure qualification from either teams.
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April 10, 2022, 11:02:52 AM
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There are several times that Bayern Munich was defeated in Leg 1 and they can win in Leg 2. They are only conceded 1 goal in Leg 1, they are still very possible to qualify for the next round. Villareal isn't a too weak team, they proved it by winning the Leg 1. But with the capability of Bayern Munich, we can predict that Bayern to win with big scores in Leg 2. Moreover, the Leg 2 will be held in Bayern home, it is their advantage.
For a team as big as Bayern who have experience in the Champions League, it's not something to worry about, they lost in the first leg.
Moreover, Bayern only lost by one goal on aggregate, that's something that Bayern are used to. It is very likely that Bayern will win
by a big score when playing in the second leg, like you said the second leg Bayern has the advantage of playing at home. So I'm pretty sure
Bayern can beat Villarreal in the second leg and Bayern will advance to the semifinals. Moreover, Bayern has a goal machine like Lewandowski
who doesn't need to doubt his goal-scoring ability. Villarreal was quite surprising to beat Bayern in the first leg, but with the quality of players
Villarreal have, I don't think they can knock Bayern out of the Champions League.

I absolutely agree. Even though Bayern Munich is going to face a little difficulty because they have a one goal deficit I think they will be able to overcome it easily and eventually beat their opponent in the second leg.
Bayern Munich is a really well polished team and I don't expect them to make any mistakes in the second leg. And Bayern Munich have been in this situation before so they know very well what to do and how to do it.

Did any of you watch the first match between Bayern and Villareal?
I have to admit that I haven't watched such a bad game of Bayern for a long time and it's a miracle that Villareal didn't beat Bayern much more convincingly, with 2 or 3 goals difference.
Bayern have not been playing well lately, neither in the German championship nor in the Champions League. They also had very big problems in the first match with Salzburg in the previous round of the Champions League.
Villarreal is a much stronger team than Salzburg and I expect an uncertain and very difficult match for Bayern.


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April 10, 2022, 11:17:05 AM
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Personal Opinion: All teams left in the champions league quarter finals have an equal chance to proceed to the next round, is it Chelsea, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Benfica, Manchester City, Atletico Madrid, Villareal and Bayern Munich. I say this firstly  because there is no soft landing in the champions league and also because there are only a goal and 2 goal deficits which can be easily overturned

Chelsea vs Real Madrid, Real Madrid are 2 goals up against Chelsea and without away goal rule have to play to their utmost best to ensure they score atleast a goal in Spain and concede less than 3 goals

Liverpool va Benfica - Liverpool was found wanting defensively against Benfica as they went away with 2 goals advantage, Klopp needs to tidy up his defense because this second round, if Benfica take their chances could usurp and cause an upset

Manchester city vs Athletio Madrid and Villareal vs Bayern Munich - a goal defeat is the easiest to overturn in the champions league because you are just a mistake away from going to the next round or fighting for victory. Anything other than an excellent performance will ensure qualification from either teams.
In fact, the last minute of the second leg has not been played yet, everyone has equal chances, but we must be honest, Chelsea and Benfica have much less than the others. Especially at Benfica. To beat such a Liverpool is almost impossible, despite all the failures of Liverpool in defense. To score 2 or more unanswered goals for Real is an extremely difficult, if not impossible task. Atletico is also not in the best situation, but if luck is on their side, then a miracle can happen on their own field and they will beat Manchester City. But Villarreal and Bayern are probably the most interesting match where anyone can win.

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April 10, 2022, 11:19:46 AM
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For sure, they have to score asap and then they can Apply their defensive strategy otherwise city will find many spaces and can score alot of goals
Scoring goals in the Champions League is not as easy as you say, especially if the opponent is Manchester City, which in their own league is still very strong at the top of the table and has the potential to win the title.
Likewise with the Champions League this time, where Manchester City will also play very well to win and bring home the Champions League title this season.
defending is not the right tactic for a team that is trailing Agg, Atletico played very badly in the 1st leg and even they have to endure shame because many criticized their game which continued to defend from the start of the match even they could not make a single shot on target .
Atlético have a lot of quality players, so in the second leg they have to be brave and open up.
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April 10, 2022, 11:57:28 AM
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-snip- And we can't predict what will happen in the second leg of the Chelsea-Real Madrid match because Real Madrid only grabbed their chances in the first half and took advantage of Mendy's gaffe in the second half. Chelsea was the better team in the second half, with several excellent chances to score, but Lukaku was unable to convert any of them. If Chelsea can improve their defense, I believe they will make life difficult for Real Madrid. We've been terrible lately.
Regardless of how Real Madrid scored in the match against Chelsea yesterday I don't think we should doubt Real Madrid anymore. The 1-3 result has proven that Real Madrid are better than Chelsea in the use of chances, so I really believe Real Madrid will destroy Chelsea again in the second leg.

Chelsea also played well and they had good stats with a total of 20 shots, but the end result left Real Madrid the favorites for this season's semi-finals. I wouldn't think Real Madrid would play defensively in the second leg, they are a team not very good defensively so open play is to be expected.
If it took Real Madrid just split seconds to turn the game around Chelsea, Chelsea may well do the same in Real Madrid's home! Real Madrid might be a great team but not to Chelsea head-to-head. Kudos that they got their first-ever victory over Chelsea. However, Chelsea has yet another 90 minutes in their backyard before the case could be well-rested! Chelsea isn't done yet! We will know both team's fates by Tuesday this week

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April 10, 2022, 12:46:54 PM
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There were no surprises from today's game. Manchester city and Liverpool were expected to win their matches and Manchester city's were expected to be more difficult as they were facing a much more tougher opponents that Liverpool.

The success of English teams in European competitions continued and both teams won tonight have one leg in the semif finals if they can put up a similarly impressive performance in the 2nd leg of the tie.
The game between Manchester City and Liverpool is one of the toughest football matches in the entire premier league as the two clubs are the top clubs and have performed extraordinarily well this season Liverpool to the premier league table briefly last weekend before Manchester City reclaimed it back after the won the game that same day.

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April 10, 2022, 01:30:43 PM
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There were no surprises from today's game. Manchester city and Liverpool were expected to win their matches and Manchester city's were expected to be more difficult as they were facing a much more tougher opponents that Liverpool.

The success of English teams in European competitions continued and both teams won tonight have one leg in the semif finals if they can put up a similarly impressive performance in the 2nd leg of the tie.
The game between Manchester City and Liverpool is one of the toughest football matches in the entire premier league as the two clubs are the top clubs and have performed extraordinarily well this season Liverpool to the premier league table briefly last weekend before Manchester City reclaimed it back after the won the game that same day.
not the Manchester City and Liverpool match in question, but the appearance of the two teams in the UCL first leg.
we are discussing the results of the UCL leg 1 not the match between Manchester City and Liverpool in the domestic league.
Liverpool and Man City have been very strong this season and they are both favorites to win the Champions League this season.
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This is not just an understatement of Villarreal but indeed Bayern Munich did it in the second leg, bad results always happen in the first leg right
Bayern Munich does this almost every season the first leg target is playing safe the target in the 2nd leg is to destroy the opponent
I'm not surprised if Bayern Munich will go to the final again well usually they lose in the final.
There are several times that Bayern Munich was defeated in Leg 1 and they can win in Leg 2. They are only conceded 1 goal in Leg 1, they are still very possible to qualify for the next round. Villareal isn't a too weak team, they proved it by winning the Leg 1. But with the capability of Bayern Munich, we can predict that Bayern to win with big scores in Leg 2. Moreover, the Leg 2 will be held in Bayern home, it is their advantage.


Of course, the fact that the rematch will be played in Germany is a great advantage for Bayern. But I have to admit that Villarreal played well. Although Bayern played an attacking game, they could not find the goal. With a good defense, Villarreal can disrupt all of Bayern's tactics. Bayern Munich must be aggressive like a lion in Germany. If they are eliminated in the match in Germany, they will give us a great shock.

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April 10, 2022, 01:46:18 PM
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Atletico Madrid - Manchester City game is approaching us now. Atletico Madrid are going to need to have a more attacking game plan at this point. Because they are already 1-0 behind now and they need to find that goal before their opponent. If they succeed, then things can go on very interestingly. Otherwise it is the end for Atletico Madrid I'm afraid.
For sure, they have to score asap and then they can Apply their defensive strategy otherwise city will find many spaces and can score alot of goals

This is not the style of Atlético Madrid. They won't force things as they actually only need one goal to fix the situation. Most likely they will look for their chances as before in a tough defensive game. Maybe they will massively go forward only if at the end of the game there are 10-15 minutes before the end and only if the score does not suit them.
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April 10, 2022, 03:20:33 PM
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But indeed on the other hand Unai Emery seems to be serious now by wanting to hold Bayern even though their chances are quite slim even though they are still ahead of Aggregate but they want to try now. and that was evident when Unai Emery rotated his players while in their 31st La Liga Jornada Continuation.
it seems they want to make this fun and don't want to be seen as mere decoration at UCL Now.
I quite appreciate what they are doing at least they dare to try now and Emery is not afraid and doesn't feel the slightest bitch like that

If we look at the starting eleven that Emery played against Bilbao, Emery clearly prioritizes the second leg against Bayern. Finally Emery had to
be willing to let Villarreal drop points against Bilbao in La Liga, hopefully Villarreal can give a surprise in the second leg against Bayern.
But my prediction is Bayern will show Villarreal that they deserve more to qualify for the next round. Moreover, Bayern playing at the Allianz Arena
used to play more frightening. Indeed, Villarreal has a one-goal lead on aggregate after beating Bayern in the previous match, and that is not
safe at all. Because we know Bayern sometimes humiliate their opponents with very big scores, hopefully that doesn't happen to Villarreal.
Actually Bayern to qualify for the next round is enough to win the match with a score of 2-0, but looking at Bayern's history, I believe Bayern
will score more than 3 goals against Villarreal.

Gambling is done by Unai Emery here. they have not been able to be optimal in the last few matches in La Liga and indeed this is why they want to focus there because it might still be a good achievement for them if they make it to the semi-finals.
But I think it will just be a blunder for them now. it's really very good to try but forgetting the top 6 in La Liga and being in an uncertain phase in the semi-finals I think it's too much pushing now

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April 10, 2022, 04:15:41 PM
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This is not just an understatement of Villarreal but indeed Bayern Munich did it in the second leg, bad results always happen in the first leg right
Bayern Munich does this almost every season the first leg target is playing safe the target in the 2nd leg is to destroy the opponent
I'm not surprised if Bayern Munich will go to the final again well usually they lose in the final.
There are several times that Bayern Munich was defeated in Leg 1 and they can win in Leg 2. They are only conceded 1 goal in Leg 1, they are still very possible to qualify for the next round. Villareal isn't a too weak team, they proved it by winning the Leg 1. But with the capability of Bayern Munich, we can predict that Bayern to win with big scores in Leg 2. Moreover, the Leg 2 will be held in Bayern home, it is their advantage.


We can't compare Bayern Munich to Villarreal. We all know how strong and able Munich are. But, Villarreal is not a team to underrate, their performance in the first leg said it all. I have this feeling that Villarreal will probably play the second leg defensively, which will possibly result to them drawing the match. Bayern have to be extra careful, because any slight mistake caused by them in the match, will lead to Villarreal kicking them out of the UCL.



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This is not the style of Atlético Madrid. They won't force things as they actually only need one goal to fix the situation. Most likely they will look for their chances as before in a tough defensive game. Maybe they will massively go forward only if at the end of the game there are 10-15 minutes before the end and only if the score does not suit them.
It could be that Altletico Madrid's game will change, but almost all the big games they participate in, the game that is highlighted is always the same, defending without a single attacking formation, meaning they are trying to secure a draw position and continue the second round at home, but the situation this time is different, they conceded one goal, without equalizing it is certain they will have no chance of qualifying for the next, I predict Atletico Madrid will play defensively and attack all out in the last 10 minutes

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April 10, 2022, 04:38:16 PM
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-snip- And we can't predict what will happen in the second leg of the Chelsea-Real Madrid match because Real Madrid only grabbed their chances in the first half and took advantage of Mendy's gaffe in the second half. Chelsea was the better team in the second half, with several excellent chances to score, but Lukaku was unable to convert any of them. If Chelsea can improve their defense, I believe they will make life difficult for Real Madrid. We've been terrible lately.
If it took Real Madrid just split seconds to turn the game around Chelsea, Chelsea may well do the same in Real Madrid's home! Real Madrid might be a great team but not to Chelsea head-to-head. Kudos that they got their first-ever victory over Chelsea. However, Chelsea has yet another 90 minutes in their backyard before the case could be well-rested! Chelsea isn't done yet! We will know both team's fates by Tuesday this week

The front three of Werner, Havertz, and Mount were excellent against Southampton yesterday. I would like to see the same front three at least, as they appear to have good link and if they maintain their performance from yesterday, Real Madrid will have a major problem at the back. The only difference between the two teams last time was that Real Madrid was more clinical in front of goal and took their chances, whereas Chelsea squandered theirs.

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April 10, 2022, 04:38:23 PM
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Atletico Madrid - Manchester City game is approaching us now. Atletico Madrid are going to need to have a more attacking game plan at this point. Because they are already 1-0 behind now and they need to find that goal before their opponent. If they succeed, then things can go on very interestingly. Otherwise it is the end for Atletico Madrid I'm afraid.
For sure, they have to score asap and then they can Apply their defensive strategy otherwise city will find many spaces and can score alot of goals

This is not the style of Atlético Madrid. They won't force things as they actually only need one goal to fix the situation. Most likely they will look for their chances as before in a tough defensive game. Maybe they will massively go forward only if at the end of the game there are 10-15 minutes before the end and only if the score does not suit them.
That's right, and a total defensive style like they did before they will definitely apply again now because they certainly know how dangerous City can be if faced with an open defence.
but for the first minutes I think they will start trying their luck because usually in the first 10 minutes of the game sometimes they always create a good chance there

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-snip- And we can't predict what will happen in the second leg of the Chelsea-Real Madrid match because Real Madrid only grabbed their chances in the first half and took advantage of Mendy's gaffe in the second half. Chelsea was the better team in the second half, with several excellent chances to score, but Lukaku was unable to convert any of them. If Chelsea can improve their defense, I believe they will make life difficult for Real Madrid. We've been terrible lately.
If it took Real Madrid just split seconds to turn the game around Chelsea, Chelsea may well do the same in Real Madrid's home! Real Madrid might be a great team but not to Chelsea head-to-head. Kudos that they got their first-ever victory over Chelsea. However, Chelsea has yet another 90 minutes in their backyard before the case could be well-rested! Chelsea isn't done yet! We will know both team's fates by Tuesday this week

The front three of Werner, Havertz, and Mount were excellent against Southampton yesterday. I would like to see the same front three at least, as they appear to have good link and if they maintain their performance from yesterday, Real Madrid will have a major problem at the back. The only difference between the two teams last time was that Real Madrid was more clinical in front of goal and took their chances, whereas Chelsea squandered theirs.
With an aggregate of 1-3, Chelsea clearly had to go through tough conditions in order to qualify for the semifinals. The condition is that they must win by a three-goal margin. With that, the final aggregate will be 4-3 for Chelsea's advantage. I think it's very difficult for Chelsea. No club has been able to make an away comeback like that in the Champions League era.
maybe real madrid lose but it's hard to catch up on aggregate.
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