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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129355 times)
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April 02, 2022, 10:40:47 AM
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If you have been following history you will be familiar with Manchester City's pattern of play, they are always ready looking for opportunities, the championship is not different that is how they have been playing since from the first round of the premier down to the champion league man city are equal to the task.

I've been following Man City's history (at least since Pep has been coach) and what I've learned from it is that in the important CL games ManCity has always failed. That is also a reason why they have not won the CL so far. And in my opinion, that was largely due to Pep Guariola. By the way, the same thing happened at Bayern Munich when he was eliminated three times in a row in the semifinals of the CL. The Bayern coaches before and after him have won the CL with Bayern, however. This clearly shows a pattern and if Pep does not change this, he will not win the CL this year either. Just my two cents.
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April 02, 2022, 12:10:08 PM
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Manchester city are on fire when it comes to the champions league. They dominated each of their games, they are on streaking wins because city boss Pep won't allow any team to compete with him. Athletico madrid on the other hand are also good interms of defensive football. They would target a draw in the first leg of the game. That's what Diego Simeon is good at, and he is one the oldest coach in Athletico madrid currently. The game is really going to be a tough one. Definitely it's going to be survival for the fittest. I hope City wins the game because they deserve this trophy more than any team present in the quarter finals. They have been to final last season but lost to Chelsea. This season won't be the same as last season. Alot of unimaginable things are going to happen.
Manchester City is the favourite to qualify to the next round and they have the capacity, good team and coach to do that. But one thing about Manchester City is that no matter how good they are in the English premier league, they cannot be trusted in the Champions League. If not for last season they managed to reach finals and lost it because of coach experiment. Other years they use to be  eliminated exactly at this stage. So Manchester City need to be more careful and ensure they score a lot of goals that is what is going to save them.
Manchester City would have learned from their past mistakes after several attempts to become the champion but failed at the last stage, I just wish Manchester City will correct all their past mistake am being able to walk away with the champion league trophy. At the moment the is no strong team/club that will battle that with them haven't seen how the club performs at the premiere leagues.
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April 02, 2022, 03:29:36 PM
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Manchester city are on fire when it comes to the champions league. They dominated each of their games, they are on streaking wins because city boss Pep won't allow any team to compete with him. Athletico madrid on the other hand are also good interms of defensive football. They would target a draw in the first leg of the game. That's what Diego Simeon is good at, and he is one the oldest coach in Athletico madrid currently. The game is really going to be a tough one. Definitely it's going to be survival for the fittest. I hope City wins the game because they deserve this trophy more than any team present in the quarter finals. They have been to final last season but lost to Chelsea. This season won't be the same as last season. Alot of unimaginable things are going to happen.
Manchester City is the favourite to qualify to the next round and they have the capacity, good team and coach to do that. But one thing about Manchester City is that no matter how good they are in the English premier league, they cannot be trusted in the Champions League. If not for last season they managed to reach finals and lost it because of coach experiment. Other years they use to be  eliminated exactly at this stage. So Manchester City need to be more careful and ensure they score a lot of goals that is what is going to save them.
Manchester City would have learned from their past mistakes after several attempts to become the champion but failed at the last stage, I just wish Manchester City will correct all their past mistake am being able to walk away with the champion league trophy. At the moment the is no strong team/club that will battle that with them haven't seen how the club performs at the premiere leagues.
Anyway, how strong Atletico's defense is still doesn't guarantee Atletico will get clean sheets so yes, with a situation like this it's not a guarantee that Manchester City will win either. Because when Manchester City is faced with a strong defense, City players will get pressure and this makes them a dead end. In this case it doesn't matter how strong they defend, because what usually happens is the counter-attack factor that in the end the team will win.

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April 02, 2022, 08:08:08 PM
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Manchester city are on fire when it comes to the champions league. They dominated each of their games, they are on streaking wins because city boss Pep won't allow any team to compete with him. Athletico madrid on the other hand are also good interms of defensive football. They would target a draw in the first leg of the game. That's what Diego Simeon is good at, and he is one the oldest coach in Athletico madrid currently. The game is really going to be a tough one. Definitely it's going to be survival for the fittest. I hope City wins the game because they deserve this trophy more than any team present in the quarter finals. They have been to final last season but lost to Chelsea. This season won't be the same as last season. Alot of unimaginable things are going to happen.
Manchester City is the favourite to qualify to the next round and they have the capacity, good team and coach to do that. But one thing about Manchester City is that no matter how good they are in the English premier league, they cannot be trusted in the Champions League. If not for last season they managed to reach finals and lost it because of coach experiment. Other years they use to be  eliminated exactly at this stage. So Manchester City need to be more careful and ensure they score a lot of goals that is what is going to save them.
Manchester City would have learned from their past mistakes after several attempts to become the champion but failed at the last stage, I just wish Manchester City will correct all their past mistake am being able to walk away with the champion league trophy. At the moment the is no strong team/club that will battle that with them haven't seen how the club performs at the premiere leagues.
Manchester City must have learnt from their mistakes obviously but even at that I can see many strong teams in the Champions League. So whether they learnt from their mistake or not there are strong teams available whose eyes are on the Champions League Cup. Teams like Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Manchester City , Real Madrid, Chelsea and others. It will be so interesting this time around. Meanwhile Manchester City will qualify for this present round at least.

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April 02, 2022, 08:17:54 PM
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the most important thing now for Chelsea is to keep winning. The first leg playing at home will certainly be more energy for Chelsea. although it was difficult Chelsea had to get the winning goal. and I hope in the second leg they don't play defensively to stem Real Madrid. instead of aiming for a draw.
Madrid with Benzema's recovery can certainly damage Chelsea's defense and midfield dominance. they have to be careful.

Today both Real and Chelsea played games in economy mode (at least it can be assumed) but Real won and Chelsea lost big. I think now the plans for the upcoming match will be adjusted and Chelsea will think more about defense, and Real about attack - maybe now it is Real that will think about getting an advantage in the first match and not defending a draw.

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April 02, 2022, 08:18:48 PM
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We have only three days for the first two games to be underway. On the first day of the quarter finals, there are games like Benfica - Liverpool and Manchester City - Atletico Madrid. I see a solid victory for Liverpool in this game. Benfica eliminated Ajax but I don't see their chance as high against Liverpool just as it wasn't against Ajax as well. Liverpool would finish the job in the first leg. And the other game would be more competitive maybe. But I still expect Manchester City to take full control of the game earlier and defeat Atletico Madrid.

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April 02, 2022, 09:08:21 PM
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Anyway, how strong Atletico's defense is still doesn't guarantee Atletico will get clean sheets so yes, with a situation like this it's not a guarantee that Manchester City will win either. Because when Manchester City is faced with a strong defense, City players will get pressure and this makes them a dead end. In this case it doesn't matter how strong they defend, because what usually happens is the counter-attack factor that in the end the team will win.
Obviously ATM defense wouldn't matter, this is City we are talking about and their offense is just like butter, it goes so smooth. I do not think that you could lay back, wait for them to come and defend with like 8 people and hope that they wouldn't score. That tactic could work for some other teams but City has been dealing with that for 5 years now, everyone does that to them in premier league because 90% of the teams do not think that they can beat City so they go for at least 0-0 and that what we see in ATM as a tactic as well. They will try that here too, but City is too used to breaking that to pieces and will destroy them for sure.

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April 02, 2022, 09:22:21 PM
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Manchester City would have learned from their past mistakes after several attempts to become the champion but failed at the last stage, I just wish Manchester City will correct all their past mistake am being able to walk away with the champion league trophy.
They must already improve their capability both players' quality and mentality to avoid the same mistake as the previous UCL season. Don't forget that their head coach is Pep Guardiola, one of the smartest coaches ever. I think they can reach the final stage and probably win the UCL trophy this season. They have a good squad and most of the players are healthy, without injury issues. In the current stage, Atletico Madrid should be a weaker team compared with Manchester City. So, there is no reason that Manchester City to be eliminated at this stage.


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If you have been following history you will be familiar with Manchester City's pattern of play, they are always ready looking for opportunities, the championship is not different that is how they have been playing since from the first round of the premier down to the champion league man city are equal to the task.
I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).

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If you have been following history you will be familiar with Manchester City's pattern of play, they are always ready looking for opportunities, the championship is not different that is how they have been playing since from the first round of the premier down to the champion league man city are equal to the task.

I've been following Man City's history (at least since Pep has been coach) and what I've learned from it is that in the important CL games ManCity has always failed. That is also a reason why they have not won the CL so far. And in my opinion, that was largely due to Pep Guariola. By the way, the same thing happened at Bayern Munich when he was eliminated three times in a row in the semifinals of the CL. The Bayern coaches before and after him have won the CL with Bayern, however. This clearly shows a pattern and if Pep does not change this, he will not win the CL this year either. Just my two cents.
It's quite a shock that Pep Guardiola is yet to win the Champions League again since leaving Barcelona probably he needs Messi and players who can be on the level of Xavi/ Iniesta to able to win the competition again. I think this Manchester City team isn't bad, just probably he needs a prolific striker but nonetheless that team is capable of winning any team in Europe. Guardiola will need to look into his adamant approach to games and do something about that because there's no Messi/Iniesta that can produce a moment of magic for him in this City side.

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Villarreal - Bayern Munich game might end up with an unexpected result. Because it is not in Allianz Arena and Villarreal are a solid team as for their defense. Bayern Munich should get ready for a tougher matchup after the Salzburg one. Maybe Bayern Munich will still succeed in eliminating Villarreal on aggregate but the players might be worn out by a solid defense line especially in the first leg. I think the first leg will be ending in a draw by 1-1. And there might be a slight chance for Villarreal to win by a one-goal difference too but this would be a really surprising result.

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Manchester city are on fire when it comes to the champions league. They dominated each of their games, they are on streaking wins because city boss Pep won't allow any team to compete with him. Athletico madrid on the other hand are also good interms of defensive football. They would target a draw in the first leg of the game. That's what Diego Simeon is good at, and he is one the oldest coach in Athletico madrid currently. The game is really going to be a tough one. Definitely it's going to be survival for the fittest. I hope City wins the game because they deserve this trophy more than any team present in the quarter finals. They have been to final last season but lost to Chelsea. This season won't be the same as last season. Alot of unimaginable things are going to happen.
Manchester City is the favourite to qualify to the next round and they have the capacity, good team and coach to do that. But one thing about Manchester City is that no matter how good they are in the English premier league, they cannot be trusted in the Champions League. If not for last season they managed to reach finals and lost it because of coach experiment. Other years they use to be  eliminated exactly at this stage. So Manchester City need to be more careful and ensure they score alot of goals that is what is going to save them.

I disagree, they can be "trusted" in Champions League matches, they play quite well within that framework. You just have to understand that in Champions League matches they are no longer playing against epl teams, but against teams from other leagues and they have to change their style of play or the opponent forces them to do so leaving no other options for the Citizens. Either way, there is always a stronger team, which is why they cannot win the league

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Liverpool have a fantastic results today against Watford to keep the pressure on Manchester City in the league but I think  they will find it hard to kick out Atletico Madrid in this tournament,I think  ATM have pick form at the right time, there game today shows that the still got fire power in Joan Felix and Luis Suarez both are so good and can score for fun right now,same thing with Chelsea and Real Madrid, with Chelsea results today they will be very weak in confidence in the showdown in the champions League next week.madrid will be thinking that Chelsea has lots of weakness to take advantage of.

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If you have been following history you will be familiar with Manchester City's pattern of play, they are always ready looking for opportunities, the championship is not different that is how they have been playing since from the first round of the premier down to the champion league man city are equal to the task.
I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).
Manchester City is one of the favorites at the beginning of this season to win the UEFA champion's league but this stage they have Atletico Madrid on their way. Diego Simeone and Pep Guardiola have history together both as a player and a coach, they always been rivals. I think if Manchester City can beat them then they would have cancel the doubts I have about them because this is truly their first big test.
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Many people must be thinking about whether Chelsea can make it to the title once again. I also am a little curious about it actually but I don't want to believe that they can even eliminate Real Madrid. I don't see the same Chelsea now. I'm aware of the fact that Chelsea will be focusing on the Champions League more than the EPL now. But I don't see the same light in them this time. If they somehow manage to eliminate Real Madrid, then I might start to feel that again.

You are right Chelsea is no longer as strong a team as they were last season. But is the Real Madrid team too strong? We know their squad players are experienced. Their coach is experienced. But they still rely on Benzema to win the match. The Chelsea team may have been a bit weak. But the situation in Real Madrid is not good. Real Madrid will not be able to win against Chelsea without Benzema scoring a goal.

Benzema is literally carrying Real Madrid over his shoulders now. It is a sure thing. But they are not playing bad as a team too. I see a significant difference between their performance now and the one in the last season. Ancelotti has started to make this difference and his influence on the team is really big now. And Real Madrid have a huge history in the Champions League. They eliminated PSG like that thanks to their being an experienced team in this tournament. Chelsea are another experienced team maybe but this time might be different.

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April 02, 2022, 11:27:15 PM
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Liverpool have a fantastic results today against Watford to keep the pressure on Manchester City in the league but I think  they will find it hard to kick out Atletico Madrid in this tournament,I think  ATM have pick form at the right time, there game today shows that the still got fire power in Joan Felix and Luis Suarez both are so good and can score for fun right now,same thing with Chelsea and Real Madrid, with Chelsea results today they will be very weak in confidence in the showdown in the champions League next week.madrid will be thinking that Chelsea has lots of weakness to take advantage of.

Liverpool and Man City's performances were very good when they beat their respective opponents in the Premier League, they managed to beat their
opponent quite convincingly. Liverpool and Man City's victories are very important to increase their confidence to be better prepared to play
in the Champions League. For Liverpool it looks like they can beat Benfica easily, the problem is that Man City will not easily beat Atletico.
We know that Atletico's performance has been consistent in La Liga and also that Atletico will play defensively against Man City who are better
quality than them. Man City must be careful with the counter-attack of Atletico's players who have a dangerous front line, but as long as Man City
can show their best game, Man City should be able to beat Atletico.

Regarding Chelsea, I was surprised that they were beaten by Brentford with  a big enough score. whereas Chelsea play at home and are strengthened
by the majority of their main players. Chelsea's defeat of course benefited Real Madrid, which had just beat Celta. Because like you said Chelsea will
definitely lose their confidence a bit with the defeat to Brentford. Meanwhile, Real Madrid are much more prepared to face Chelsea, even though
Real Madrid play away in the first leg.

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I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).
Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..


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April 03, 2022, 12:06:09 AM
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Chelsea outplayed them in both legs of the Champions League last season, and little has changed in both teams. Real Madrid's weakness has been their midfielders when it comes to tracking back, as Modric and Kloss are both aging and find it difficult to perform well when playing against younger midfielders, which was Chelsea's edge over them last season, I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.
Do you think Chelsea midfielders are stronger than Real Madrid midfielders this season? Although the last season, Real Madrid midfielders are defeated by Chelsea midfielders, it doesn't mean Chelsea midfielders' performance is better than Real Madrid midfielders this season. I still believe that Real Madrid midfielders have learned many things from their lose in the last season. So, it probably won't happen again this season. Young or old players sometimes don't give a significant influence in the match.

Real Madrid is clearly star-studded but Chelsea midfield is a little more dynamic, on a good day one Kante can upset the whole Real Madrid midfield. Chelsea have a player in the person of Jorginho who's a controller in Midfield something close to the likes of Xavi during his playing days. While the likes of RLC, Kante and Kovacic play as box to box midfielders making Chelsea's midfield a bit robust than Real Madrid’s.

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April 03, 2022, 12:28:40 AM
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I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).
Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..


If we compare Man City with Atletico, Man City should not be eliminated by Atletico. Moreover, Atletico's performance has decreased compared
to the previous season which won the La Liga trophy. This season Atletico began to show good form towards the end of the season, while the start of
this season Atletico played very poorly. While Man City has played very consistently from the start of the season, even Man City is still in first position
in the Premier League right now. Even so far, Man City's performance is also very good in the Champions League competition, and don't forget
Man City, runners-up in the Champions League in 2021.

So it's no wonder Man City is one of the candidates to win the Champions League trophy this year. It will take a miracle for Atletico if they are
to beat Man City and qualify for the next round in the Champions League. I agree with you, I see Atletico is not a team that can knock Man City
out of the Champions League. But I admit that Atletico are not a team that Man City can easily beat, but because Man City did have a better
performance and also better quality players, Man City should have beaten and eliminated Atletico in the Champions League quarter-finals.

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April 03, 2022, 06:44:03 AM
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You made a lot of sense, but the bolded part of the sentence is false; RLC is a liability to the club; he's the only Academy player who hasn't improved; whenever he starts in midfield, the team struggles to create chances; he has nothing special; he doesn't assist, doesn't score, has no creativity; the only thing he does well is hold on to the ball. He will not be featured in the champions league game.

Chelsea outplayed them in both legs of the Champions League last season, and little has changed in both teams. Real Madrid's weakness has been their midfielders when it comes to tracking back, as Modric and Kloss are both aging and find it difficult to perform well when playing against younger midfielders, which was Chelsea's edge over them last season, I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.
Real Madrid is clearly star-studded but Chelsea midfield is a little more dynamic, on a good day one Kante can upset the whole Real Madrid midfield. Chelsea have a player in the person of Jorginho who's a controller in Midfield something close to the likes of Xavi during his playing days. While the likes of RLC, Kante and Kovacic play as box to box midfielders making Chelsea's midfield a bit robust than Real Madrid’s.

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