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December 02, 2022, 08:18:06 PM
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West Indies won't have much trouble avoiding the follow-on. West Indies scored 150 runs in 51 overs and lost only one batsman. However, Bonner is now sidelined with an injury. Even so, the batting of the Indies is quite good. Today is the third day of play. When a Test match is played on such a pitch, the match is usually a draw. This match is also most likely to be a draw if West Indies face a batting disaster.

Why do you think the match is one-sided? The pitch is flat, on such a pitch teams can score a lot of runs. Australia's batsmen played very well and scored 598 runs. West Indies lost just one wicket. And they have the opportunity to collect more than 400. The match will be a draw, I don't think it will be a one-sided match.
After having very good opening stand West Indies not able to give solid reply with now they are trailing by 344 runs, and we have two days left in this match there was chance that they can do good job in batting and have chance of draw but now things completely out of control for them Starc and Cummins both done amazing job and settle them very quickly after having openers.

Most chances now they will settle lead around 450+ and then give batting to West Indies because if they have 125 overs then surely they can win this match without any trouble with last day pitch is never been easy for any team and this could be also helpful for the Australia because if they give follow on then surely they have to lost nearly one complete day of this match.

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December 02, 2022, 08:32:04 PM
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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
There is nothing in this pitch for the bowlers. England made a total of 657, and it looks as if Pakistan may be able to overtake this score. They can have 5 days of cricket, with the batsmen improving their personal stats. But in the end, the chances of a definite result looks bleak. But then it is Pakistan at one end. They are always unpredictable. They can lose matches where they have a very good chance to win, and they can win matches out of nowhere. Now let's see which of the three scenarios will happen with this test match.
Here we already ended two days match which is clearly indicating nothing positive going to happen with most chances on third day we will have around 350 to 380 from Pakistan but if England could be lucky then surely they could be able to have few wickets otherwise certainly it's going to be dead rubber and hell for the fast bowlers with Anderson is also having nothing positive just exercise for him.

As mentioned Pakistan is unpredictable then surely we can expect something like we have in last series against Australia they lost match on pitches like these hopefully fortune go with England, and they will be also able to have something special which help them for having win otherwise this could be one of the worst match and ICC also need to have checked and penalty for them because this is not favorable thing happening.

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December 02, 2022, 08:42:02 PM
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It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.
You are mixing up something here. 4 players of England scored centuries, one of them scored one hundred and fifty runs. Two Australian players have scored double centuries against West Indies in the first innings. Anyway, Pakistan pitch isn't suitable for bowlers. The match will end as a draw. But Australia has pretty good chance to win against West Indies.

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December 02, 2022, 08:48:04 PM
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What is the point in watching these matches, where the bowlers have no role to play? Imagine in test cricket run rate shooting up to 7 runs per over. That tells a lot about the track that was prepared in Pindi. I just hope that the ICC will take note of this and penalize the PCB. Someone please enlighten me how a result can be obtained from matches such as this one. 5-days and 450 overs of cricket, and still in the end we will be left with yet another boring draw. And then the folks at ICC wonder why test cricket is getting less and less popular with every passing year.
Absolutely there is no point in watching this test match. The pitch was not helpful for bowlers on day on day two it is giving a little help. It seems England was lucky enough to win the toss and bat on such a pitch. Now it will be intresting to see whether this pitch helps the English bowlers or Pakistan batters.
I am watching cricket for last 30 years and I have feeling PCB is one of the most crap managements in this sports organization because they have never done things to have positive results and give good entertainment to public which is surely must if you want to have better revenue and sponsorships even today I was reading Ramiz Raja was also feeling embarrassment with this pitch because he was not expecting things like this going to happen.

With this all you are bringing two seamers in team and both have nightmare start of their career in test matches we already have few world records, and we can expect something special as well in coming days which will be more embarrassing for them in current situation, but one thing is surely they will never take any lesson from these badass things which are they doing for the long time.

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December 02, 2022, 10:59:13 PM
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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.
A completely bad pitch. The bowlers are not doing any favors. We saw England's devastating batting. England scored 657 runs in their first innings. But Pakistani batsmen are also playing well. Despite collecting 181 runs, they have not lost any wicket yet. England's two openers Abdullah Shafique and Imam Ul Haque are batting very well. The two Pakistani openers are batting very carefully. There is no doubt that the match is going to be a draw unless there is a batting disaster.

Due to the fact that England has had enough runs on the board, they have lost quick wickets today. At least, that's what I believe to be the case. Currently, Pakistan is batting in the middle of the innings. However, nothing seems to be helping with the bowlers at the moment. In terms of the pitch, they are not getting any help from it. As a result, Pakistan's openers are playing according to their own wishes. I can see this test match being another draw. Do you remember when Pakistan did this against Australia and everyone hated them for it? Compared to the last time, I think the hatred is going to be much more intense this time around.

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December 03, 2022, 02:10:06 AM
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There is a viral tweet from Iceland Cricket Board, regarding the ongoing test between Pakistan and England at Pindi:

https://twitter.com/icelandcricket/status/1598648896799920128

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There are various ways of taking wickets at Rawalpindi, but they all come with bans of 3-10 years.

And from what I heard, the ICC is already looking in to this issue and PCB will be in trouble if they find that the Pindi pitch was not suitable for international matches. And remember that PCB is a repeat offender. During the tour by Australia also they prepared similar pitches. I hope this time they will not get away with what they have done. Most probably they will receive a penalty of monetary fine. Hopefully they will avoid deduction of points for the World Test Championship table.

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Currently, Pakistan is batting in the middle of the innings. However, nothing seems to be helping with the bowlers at the moment. In terms of the pitch, they are not getting any help from it. As a result, Pakistan's openers are playing according to their own wishes.
It's true that pitch didn't help bowler and that the reason that world best bowling lineup didn't much wicket on first day of test and didn't hold English batter at small target but at second day miricle occure and Pakistan departure all of England player to pavilion,
Now same condition is for England bowler they also didn't get any help pitch and that's the reason the england bowler Anderson didn't get any wicket.

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December 03, 2022, 05:07:29 AM
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Currently, Pakistan is batting in the middle of the innings. However, nothing seems to be helping with the bowlers at the moment. In terms of the pitch, they are not getting any help from it. As a result, Pakistan's openers are playing according to their own wishes.
It's true that pitch didn't help bowler and that the reason that world best bowling lineup didn't much wicket on first day of test and didn't hold English batter at small target but at second day miricle occure and Pakistan departure all of England player to pavilion,
Now same condition is for England bowler they also didn't get any help pitch and that's the reason the england bowler Anderson didn't get any wicket.
Today's session in Pakistan has begun. Pakistan players are walking on the same street against England. They have not lost any wickets so far. However, when the situation of the two teams are the same, it naturally comes to the attention on the Pitch. In that case, the pitch is not favor on the billowing side. As a result, we are also going to see a good innings from Pakistan. Since the target is so long in the test match, In that case there may be a game like ODI cricket.

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December 03, 2022, 05:39:55 AM
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Today's session in Pakistan has begun. Pakistan players are walking on the same street against England. They have not lost any wickets so far. However, when the situation of the two teams are the same, it naturally comes to the attention on the Pitch. In that case, the pitch is not favor on the billowing side. As a result, we are also going to see a good innings from Pakistan. Since the target is so long in the test match, In that case there may be a game like ODI cricket.

Defiantly it will be a draw, as on third day Pakistan are 221/0. Both Imam and Abdullah have scored centuries they are not as quick as English openers were. PCB should take some responsibility and start preparing pitches that can do justice with Test format, we saw similar type of pitches in Australia tour. Seems like PCB has not learned anything.

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December 03, 2022, 06:02:23 AM
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Currently, Pakistan is batting in the middle of the innings. However, nothing seems to be helping with the bowlers at the moment. In terms of the pitch, they are not getting any help from it. As a result, Pakistan's openers are playing according to their own wishes.
It's true that pitch didn't help bowler and that the reason that world best bowling lineup didn't much wicket on first day of test and didn't hold English batter at small target but at second day miricle occure and Pakistan departure all of England player to pavilion,
Now same condition is for England bowler they also didn't get any help pitch and that's the reason the england bowler Anderson didn't get any wicket.
Today's session in Pakistan has begun. Pakistan players are walking on the same street against England. They have not lost any wickets so far. However, when the situation of the two teams are the same, it naturally comes to the attention on the Pitch. In that case, the pitch is not favor on the billowing side. As a result, we are also going to see a good innings from Pakistan. Since the target is so long in the test match, In that case there may be a game like ODI cricket.
Now both of Pakistani opener scored 225 runs of partnership in 65 over which is quite good and it's the correct way of playing test cricket match, but now unfortunately one of Pakistani opener A.Shafiq has been departure by England bowler to pavilion. I think the way match is going it's totally in favor of draw . Hope we will get some better results.

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December 03, 2022, 06:49:43 AM
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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.

I really don't understand the logic of PCB here to prepare such dead wickets. I am sure it is not the fear of loss as Pakistan has good bowling options that could have been exploited on fast pitches. Don't know who gave them these suggestions to make a dead pitch.

A team as good as England is coming to our country, we should have prepared good pitches, no one wants to watch these dead pitches matches. Honestly, I prefer to watch FIFA world cup matches and highlights rather than watching these batsmen from both countries piling up the runs.

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December 03, 2022, 07:03:28 AM
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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.

I really don't understand the logic of PCB here to prepare such dead wickets. I am sure it is not the fear of loss as Pakistan has good bowling options that could have been exploited on fast pitches. Don't know who gave them these suggestions to make a dead pitch.

A team as good as England is coming to our country, we should have prepared good pitches, no one wants to watch these dead pitches matches. Honestly, I prefer to watch FIFA world cup matches and highlights rather than watching these batsmen from both countries piling up the runs.
That's true when you watch FIFA you watch wonderful, exciting matches with the efforts of their host country  who have prepared outstanding world class stadiums for this world cup .
Then here we have this test series in which players are just collecting runs making centuries and that's it. Atleast PCB have prepared and worked on thier pitches.  I don't know how is Ramiz Raja going to organise Asia Cup in pakistan with this casual attitude.

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December 03, 2022, 08:37:50 AM
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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.

I really don't understand the logic of PCB here to prepare such dead wickets. I am sure it is not the fear of loss as Pakistan has good bowling options that could have been exploited on fast pitches. Don't know who gave them these suggestions to make a dead pitch.

A team as good as England is coming to our country, we should have prepared good pitches, no one wants to watch these dead pitches matches. Honestly, I prefer to watch FIFA world cup matches and highlights rather than watching these batsmen from both countries piling up the runs.
That's true when you watch FIFA you watch wonderful, exciting matches with the efforts of their host country  who have prepared outstanding world class stadiums for this world cup .
Then here we have this test series in which players are just collecting runs making centuries and that's it. Atleast PCB have prepared and worked on thier pitches.  I don't know how is Ramiz Raja going to organise Asia Cup in pakistan with this casual attitude.

Are we having the Asia Cup in Pakistan? I heard somewhere that since India does not want to come to Pakistan to play the Asia cup, the venue may be shifted to some Neutral venue as, without India, the Asia cup won't be of any interest.

Coming back to this test match, the pitch is a big mess here. Think that players are making centuries but no one is appreciating them because it is more of the dead pitches that is playing the part in all these runs.

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December 03, 2022, 10:05:42 AM
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Excellent response from the Pakistani batters but for cricketing fans, it's already turned into a dead rubber, where everyone is just stat padding. Even the likes of Crawley and Ben Duckett got their tons in a fashionable manner. 3rd day and 7 centuries tell the complete story.  Undecided

Poms are still in a good position and they would like some braindead collapse from Pak, unlikely but you never know.

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December 03, 2022, 10:48:15 AM
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Are we having the Asia Cup in Pakistan? I heard somewhere that since India does not want to come to Pakistan to play the Asia cup, the venue may be shifted to some Neutral venue as, without India, the Asia cup won't be of any interest.

Though this is not related to test cricket, keep in mind that Asia Cup will be played in Pakistan and it will be fun without India being part of it. For sure, if they do not come to Pakistan, the only reason will be that they don't want to taste the insult of losing to Pakistan in Pakistan.

I am not happy with PCB making dead wickets but i am proud on their firm decision of Asia cup should be played where it is planned and no team is over and above the cricketing bodies.



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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.

I really don't understand the logic of PCB here to prepare such dead wickets. I am sure it is not the fear of loss as Pakistan has good bowling options that could have been exploited on fast pitches. Don't know who gave them these suggestions to make a dead pitch.

A team as good as England is coming to our country, we should have prepared good pitches, no one wants to watch these dead pitches matches. Honestly, I prefer to watch FIFA world cup matches and highlights rather than watching these batsmen from both countries piling up the runs.
That's true when you watch FIFA you watch wonderful, exciting matches with the efforts of their host country  who have prepared outstanding world class stadiums for this world cup .
Then here we have this test series in which players are just collecting runs making centuries and that's it. Atleast PCB have prepared and worked on thier pitches.  I don't know how is Ramiz Raja going to organise Asia Cup in pakistan with this casual attitude.

Are we having the Asia Cup in Pakistan? I heard somewhere that since India does not want to come to Pakistan to play the Asia cup, the venue may be shifted to some Neutral venue as, without India, the Asia cup won't be of any interest.

Coming back to this test match, the pitch is a big mess here. Think that players are making centuries but no one is appreciating them because it is more of the dead pitches that is playing the part in all these runs.
Yea Asia Cup is happening in Pakistan and Ramiz Raja recently told in a press conference that its happening with or without India.  Now that's a big question mark for all the world and ICC too how will the tournament held without India and BCCI?

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December 03, 2022, 01:51:10 PM
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As expected this match is going draw, all thanks to PCB and the pitch curator. Indeed Pakistan has lost 7 wickets but, 3 days have been exhausted out of 5 and Inam sure Pakistan would try to utilise the whole 4 day to avoid a defeat in their home ground. I completely wasted test match with no result is a maximum possibility now. 

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December 03, 2022, 02:17:40 PM
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As expected this match is going draw, all thanks to PCB and the pitch curator. Indeed Pakistan has lost 7 wickets but, 3 days have been exhausted out of 5 and Inam sure Pakistan would try to utilise the whole 4 day to avoid a defeat in their home ground. I completely wasted test match with no result is a maximum possibility now. 
Wishful scenario but

Let's say England picks the last 3 wickets quickly in the morning with a minimum lead of 120-ish and is followed by another Bazball batting performance by smashing 280-300 runs in 50-60 overs.

We know we are losing 8-10 overs every day due to bad light so Poms need to give approx 100 overs to Pakistan for a 400-ish run chase and If the pitch stays the same then hope Pakistan takes the bait and tries to win the match.

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December 03, 2022, 02:28:54 PM
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As expected this match is going draw, all thanks to PCB and the pitch curator. Indeed Pakistan has lost 7 wickets but, 3 days have been exhausted out of 5 and Inam sure Pakistan would try to utilise the whole 4 day to avoid a defeat in their home ground. I completely wasted test match with no result is a maximum possibility now. 

England batted well and scored 657 runs in the first innings. Perhaps England wanted to win this match. But without the good performance of the bowlers it is not possible to win on such a flat pitch. On the third day, he collected 499 runs with the loss of 7 wickets. Pakistan's batsmen will also try to reduce their gap with Pakistan tomorrow. I guess Pakistan will lose all wickets by 550. And we will definitely see a draw unless a miracle happens.

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December 03, 2022, 02:50:25 PM
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As expected this match is going draw, all thanks to PCB and the pitch curator. Indeed Pakistan has lost 7 wickets but, 3 days have been exhausted out of 5 and Inam sure Pakistan would try to utilise the whole 4 day to avoid a defeat in their home ground. I completely wasted test match with no result is a maximum possibility now. 

England batted well and scored 657 runs in the first innings. Perhaps England wanted to win this match. But without the good performance of the bowlers it is not possible to win on such a flat pitch. On the third day, he collected 499 runs with the loss of 7 wickets. Pakistan's batsmen will also try to reduce their gap with Pakistan tomorrow. I guess Pakistan will lose all wickets by 550. And we will definitely see a draw unless a miracle happens.
One team is yet to be bowled out after three days of play, however, England and Pakistan both believe they will win the test. If we're being honest, it looks like a draw will be the outcome. Against strong bowling attacks, Pakistani batters score runs. Yet, England's bowlers did an excellent job of taking 7 wickets. There is a good chance that Pakistan will lose all their wickets the next day morning, so a draw is likely unless a miracle happens.

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