Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[jaberwock]

I always rate Mohammad Sami at a level equal to that of Waqar Younis or Aaqib Javed. But if you look at the stats, you will see that he just played a total of 36 test matches and ended with just 85 wickets. Anyway, test cricket was never his preferred format. He was much more effective with ODIs. Wahab Riaz was one of those bowlers who had plenty of potential. But he also ended up with less than 100 wickets. And we all know what happened with Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif.

After the Golden era of two W's Pakistani cricket suffer badly with off and on filed controversies and this have big impact on this all player power and political influence both having always negative impact on cricket and after Sri Lankan attack incident they have never been on good track with Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif both were the best products of this era gone with their own guilt which was big setback for Pakistani cricket after very long time now they have good person as head Ramiz Raja is doing hard work for bringing these golden days back hopefully his hard work pay off in positive way, and they have good guys in game as well.

Right now, after long time new generation of fast bowlers coming around if they give them proper training and other facilities surely they can give them good results.

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[laurenB7742]

Sri Lanka's pitches favor the spinners a lot. Pakistan's spinners were completely unsuccessful on such a pitch. And this is why Sri Lankan batsmen batted very well in both innings. On the other hand, the performance of Pakistan's batsmen was not as good as expected. If Pakistan could have scored like 300 runs in the first innings then maybe they would have won the match. However, the series was drawn 1–1. This is a good enough result for Sri Lanka.

This is the same pitch in which Pakistan won the previous test. In that test, during the first innings Shahin Afridi who is a fast bowler took 4 wickets and in the second innings Mohammad Nawaz who is a spinner took 5 wickets for Pakistan. So, it is not about the pitch. There is lack of performance and some players didn't perform and the team ended losing the match.

I'm not saying it's a pitch problem. We all know that spin bowlers have a bit of an advantage on Asian pitches. And so when Pakistan's spin bowlers failed to perform well, naturally Pakistan fell behind quite a bit. As a result, Sri Lanka set a target of more than 500 runs. And it is very difficult to score more than 500 in the last innings on such a pitch. And so, indirectly, the main reason for Pakistan's defeat was the poor performance of their bowlers.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

I'm not saying it's a pitch problem. We all know that spin bowlers have a bit of an advantage on Asian pitches. And so when Pakistan's spin bowlers failed to perform well, naturally Pakistan fell behind quite a bit. As a result, Sri Lanka set a target of more than 500 runs. And it is very difficult to score more than 500 in the last innings on such a pitch. And so, indirectly, the main reason for Pakistan's defeat was the poor performance of their bowlers.

If you see second test then Srilanka was in command since the day one. They scored 378 in first innings and bowled out Pakistan for 231 runs taking lead of 147 in first innings. Good to see Srilanka going up, they draw series against Aus and now against Pakistan.

[Marvell1]

I always rate Mohammad Sami at a level equal to that of Waqar Younis or Aaqib Javed. But if you look at the stats, you will see that he just played a total of 36 test matches and ended with just 85 wickets. Anyway, test cricket was never his preferred format. He was much more effective with ODIs. Wahab Riaz was one of those bowlers who had plenty of potential. But he also ended up with less than 100 wickets. And we all know what happened with Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif.

After the Golden era of two W's Pakistani cricket suffer badly with off and on filed controversies and this have big impact on this all player power and political influence both having always negative impact on cricket and after Sri Lankan attack incident they have never been on good track with Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif both were the best products of this era gone with their own guilt which was big setback for Pakistani cricket after very long time now they have good person as head Ramiz Raja is doing hard work for bringing these golden days back hopefully his hard work pay off in positive way, and they have good guys in game as well.
Right now, after long time new generation of fast bowlers coming around if they give them proper training and other facilities surely they can give them good results.

And honestly, I am doubtful about one thing. Does Pakistan actually have a substantial amount of talent hunts? I don't think the golden era of Pakistani fast bowlers is going to return anytime soon. But I am sure with Rameez Raja being an influential person in the Pakistan Cricket Board, he’s obviously equipped to help Pakistan a lot to bring forward more talent from now on. I almost like Pakistan just because they have produced some legendary players as well. Inzamam-ul-Haq, Shahid Afridi, and a lot of other players. Shaheen Shah Afridi is the latest find of Pakistan. Before him, there have been a few players who created a lot of buzzes but they did not prove to be as useful.

[S A KHAIR]

I'm not saying it's a pitch problem. We all know that spin bowlers have a bit of an advantage on Asian pitches. And so when Pakistan's spin bowlers failed to perform well, naturally Pakistan fell behind quite a bit. As a result, Sri Lanka set a target of more than 500 runs. And it is very difficult to score more than 500 in the last innings on such a pitch. And so, indirectly, the main reason for Pakistan's defeat was the poor performance of their bowlers.

If you see second test then Srilanka was in command since the day one. They scored 378 in first innings and bowled out Pakistan for 231 runs taking lead of 147 in first innings. Good to see Srilanka going up, they draw series against Aus and now against Pakistan.

The performance of the Sri Lankan team is now very stable. They solved the internal problems of the team. Their performance has been consistent on both the batting and bowling side. But they are playing well at home ground. It remains to be seen how they perform in away matches or on pace-helpful pitches. Most teams perform well in home matches

[tbterryboy]

And honestly, I am doubtful about one thing. Does Pakistan actually have a substantial amount of talent hunts? I don't think the golden era of Pakistani fast bowlers is going to return anytime soon. But I am sure with Rameez Raja being an influential person in the Pakistan Cricket Board, he’s obviously equipped to help Pakistan a lot to bring forward more talent from now on. I almost like Pakistan just because they have produced some legendary players as well. Inzamam-ul-Haq, Shahid Afridi, and a lot of other players. Shaheen Shah Afridi is the latest find of Pakistan. Before him, there have been a few players who created a lot of buzzes but they did not prove to be as useful.

There is no doubt about bright future of cricket in Pakistan specially after recently they have done good achievements with the help of PSL and now having some good development in other domestic tournaments as well which is bringing a good number of quality players. In last few years we have too many fast bowlers those are working in academies and having good help from PCB development program as well.

Even still a long way to go for them but with this all most chances they will be on track for good positive change, and we can fight back in International cricket. After two decades we have few teams already tour Pakistan and few are also ready for tour which is also big success for them after very long war against terror in country.

[Sithara007]

There is no doubt about bright future of cricket in Pakistan specially after recently they have done good achievements with the help of PSL and now having some good development in other domestic tournaments as well which is bringing a good number of quality players. In last few years we have too many fast bowlers those are working in academies and having good help from PCB development program as well.

Even still a long way to go for them but with this all most chances they will be on track for good positive change, and we can fight back in International cricket. After two decades we have few teams already tour Pakistan and few are also ready for tour which is also big success for them after very long war against terror in country.

I agree that the Pakistan Super League has contributed a lot to the growth of cricket in Pakistan, and towards the overall improvement of the financial situation for PCB. But it is important to make sure that the security situation doesn't get worse. For the last several years, foreign teams have started touring Pakistan since the situation has improved there. But a single terrorist attack can derail everything. If everything goes well, then we can expect the PSL to become a major cash cow for the Pakistan board.

[dezoel]

I agree that the Pakistan Super League has contributed a lot to the growth of cricket in Pakistan, and towards the overall improvement of the financial situation for PCB. But it is important to make sure that the security situation doesn't get worse. For the last several years, foreign teams have started touring Pakistan since the situation has improved there. But a single terrorist attack can derail everything. If everything goes well, then we can expect the PSL to become a major cash cow for the Pakistan board.

Right now things are in better control as Afghanistan is under Taliban control, and they already announce they will never allow any person, Country or organization to do anything against any country so with this Pakistan is also in good position because under Northern Alliance there were few terrorist groups which were working under Indian Agencies, and they were main culprits for having terrorist attacks in Pakistan, but recently they cleaned all which are going good for peace in this all region.

Even political instability is again on top, but surely this is also going to end soon as regime change is also big failure and now establishment is also feeling they can't take advantage of this all right now social media is playing vital role and peoples are much better have awareness about this all instead of past when they were in all and can bring changes without any solid reason.

[laurenB7742]

I'm not saying it's a pitch problem. We all know that spin bowlers have a bit of an advantage on Asian pitches. And so when Pakistan's spin bowlers failed to perform well, naturally Pakistan fell behind quite a bit. As a result, Sri Lanka set a target of more than 500 runs. And it is very difficult to score more than 500 in the last innings on such a pitch. And so, indirectly, the main reason for Pakistan's defeat was the poor performance of their bowlers.

If you see second test then Srilanka was in command since the day one. They scored 378 in first innings and bowled out Pakistan for 231 runs taking lead of 147 in first innings. Good to see Srilanka going up, they draw series against Aus and now against Pakistan.

The performance of the Sri Lankan team is now very stable. They solved the internal problems of the team. Their performance has been consistent on both the batting and bowling side. But they are playing well at home ground. It remains to be seen how they perform in away matches or on pace-helpful pitches. Most teams perform well in home matches

Perhaps you are right. The Sri Lankan team has improved a lot. I would say the performance of their batsmen has stabilized. Especially the top order players are playing well. But all the matches were held in Sri Lanka. If you want to do well in the next World Cup, the Sri Lankan board should definitely organize the series outside the country. But Sri Lanka will not play any more series before the World Cup.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Perhaps you are right. The Sri Lankan team has improved a lot. I would say the performance of their batsmen has stabilized. Especially the top order players are playing well. But all the matches were held in Sri Lanka. If you want to do well in the next World Cup, the Sri Lankan board should definitely organize the series outside the country. But Sri Lanka will not play any more series before the World Cup.

No one was expecting Srilanka to draw a series against team like Australia and Pakistan, in both series Srilanka lost one game and won the second game. Its good that Srilanka cricket is reviving and there next goal should be to win series held outside Srilanka.

[BobK71]

I'm not saying it's a pitch problem. We all know that spin bowlers have a bit of an advantage on Asian pitches. And so when Pakistan's spin bowlers failed to perform well, naturally Pakistan fell behind quite a bit. As a result, Sri Lanka set a target of more than 500 runs. And it is very difficult to score more than 500 in the last innings on such a pitch. And so, indirectly, the main reason for Pakistan's defeat was the poor performance of their bowlers.

If you see second test then Srilanka was in command since the day one. They scored 378 in first innings and bowled out Pakistan for 231 runs taking lead of 147 in first innings. Good to see Srilanka going up, they draw series against Aus and now against Pakistan.

The performance of the Sri Lankan team is now very stable. They solved the internal problems of the team. Their performance has been consistent on both the batting and bowling side. But they are playing well at home ground. It remains to be seen how they perform in away matches or on pace-helpful pitches. Most teams perform well in home matches

Perhaps you are right. The Sri Lankan team has improved a lot. I would say the performance of their batsmen has stabilized. Especially the top order players are playing well. But all the matches were held in Sri Lanka. If you want to do well in the next World Cup, the Sri Lankan board should definitely organize the series outside the country. But Sri Lanka will not play any more series before the World Cup.

Sri Lanka have played a good game in the current conditions. Which can bring Sri Lanka's hope again especially for getting the good position in T20 World Cup cricket. I agree with you that since they are playing at home ground their true status cannot be understood right now. Their outdoor performance will describe how much they have improved. However, it can be said without a doubt that they have produced some good players. Hopefully they can give us better matches in the future.

[ilovealtcoins]

I agree that the Pakistan Super League has contributed a lot to the growth of cricket in Pakistan, and towards the overall improvement of the financial situation for PCB. But it is important to make sure that the security situation doesn't get worse. For the last several years, foreign teams have started touring Pakistan since the situation has improved there. But a single terrorist attack can derail everything. If everything goes well, then we can expect the PSL to become a major cash cow for the Pakistan board.

Right now things are in better control as Afghanistan is under Taliban control, and they already announce they will never allow any person, Country or organization to do anything against any country so with this Pakistan is also in good position because under Northern Alliance there were few terrorist groups which were working under Indian Agencies, and they were main culprits for having terrorist attacks in Pakistan, but recently they cleaned all which are going good for peace in this all region.
Even political instability is again on top, but surely this is also going to end soon as regime change is also big failure and now establishment is also feeling they can't take advantage of this all right now social media is playing vital role and peoples are much better have awareness about this all instead of past when they were in all and can bring changes without any solid reason.

Things are improving for Pakistan. Everything is getting back on track for them slowly but surely. They have already started hosting series in their home ground. And with Rameez Raja being one of the board members things are surely going to get better from now on. And I also hope that the situation in Afghanistan also improves. They are one of the most promising cricketing nations so far. Especially in the T-20 format.

[TheGreatPython]

Perhaps you are right. The Sri Lankan team has improved a lot. I would say the performance of their batsmen has stabilized. Especially the top order players are playing well. But all the matches were held in Sri Lanka. If you want to do well in the next World Cup, the Sri Lankan board should definitely organize the series outside the country. But Sri Lanka will not play any more series before the World Cup.

No one was expecting Srilanka to draw a series against team like Australia and Pakistan, in both series Srilanka lost one game and won the second game. Its good that Srilanka cricket is reviving and there next goal should be to win series held outside Srilanka.

Even though they are giving much better than expected but still this all is at home on their own pitches now they are going to be visited New Zealand and this could be the biggest challenge for them because if they are able to perform good then surely it's going to improve their confidence, and they are going to be having better place in League table for WTC final 2023 as well.

New Zealand which is defending champions in Test Championship and already lost their for last two teams looking for better results as well hopefully this could be good contest between these two struggling teams and series is very important for Sri Lanka instead of New Zealand, let's watch what happened here and who could be crowned winner.

[Vaskiy]

I'm not saying it's a pitch problem. We all know that spin bowlers have a bit of an advantage on Asian pitches. And so when Pakistan's spin bowlers failed to perform well, naturally Pakistan fell behind quite a bit. As a result, Sri Lanka set a target of more than 500 runs. And it is very difficult to score more than 500 in the last innings on such a pitch. And so, indirectly, the main reason for Pakistan's defeat was the poor performance of their bowlers.

If you see second test then Srilanka was in command since the day one. They scored 378 in first innings and bowled out Pakistan for 231 runs taking lead of 147 in first innings. Good to see Srilanka going up, they draw series against Aus and now against Pakistan.

The performance of the Sri Lankan team is now very stable. They solved the internal problems of the team. Their performance has been consistent on both the batting and bowling side. But they are playing well at home ground. It remains to be seen how they perform in away matches or on pace-helpful pitches. Most teams perform well in home matches

Perhaps you are right. The Sri Lankan team has improved a lot. I would say the performance of their batsmen has stabilized. Especially the top order players are playing well. But all the matches were held in Sri Lanka. If you want to do well in the next World Cup, the Sri Lankan board should definitely organize the series outside the country. But Sri Lanka will not play any more series before the World Cup.

Sri Lanka have played a good game in the current conditions. Which can bring Sri Lanka's hope again especially for getting the good position in T20 World Cup cricket. I agree with you that since they are playing at home ground their true status cannot be understood right now. Their outdoor performance will describe how much they have improved. However, it can be said without a doubt that they have produced some good players. Hopefully they can give us better matches in the future.

According to me the real power of a team can be seen through its performance on the test cricket. Sri Lanka is good in its past few matches. Maybe continuing this can keep them in good position. T20 matches are like fluke mostly, because at end situations the bowlers doesn't have any chance of turning the matches. At very rare occasions we can see this. Likewise we can see various things that make test cricket to be the decider for a team's performance.

[Naficopa]

He was slogging and doing so got some success that's it but it's fine as he was no10 so every run is bonus. Although Naseem Shah was the guy who stayed with Babar for long, not Hasan Ali.

LOL.. I have to admit that I am biased in favor of Hasan Ali. Anyway, he did what he could. And yes, Naseem did a splendid job in the first match (with the bat).

Pakistani players have good bowling defence and this is amazing they batted well.
I think they have tested the team how would they perform in the absence of Shaheen Afridi. But Afridi too is an amazing player - hard to ignore.

Back in late 1990s and early 2000s, they had 3-4 quality bowlers such as Akram, Shoaib, Saqlain and Waqar. So even if one is unavailable, someone like Mohammad Sami would fill in. But now Shaheen is the only consistent bowler. The younger ones such as Hasnain and Naseem are yet to prove that they are reliable. Also, they lack a pace bowling all-rounder, such as Abdul Razzaq who was in the team a decade or so ago.

The players you mentioned are legendary players. They have made their name in sports.
Also Imran Khan is still ruling the hearts of the people. But having said that. Every golden era ends. So one should enjoy their golden era and leave with dignity.

[Vaskiy]

He was slogging and doing so got some success that's it but it's fine as he was no10 so every run is bonus. Although Naseem Shah was the guy who stayed with Babar for long, not Hasan Ali.

LOL.. I have to admit that I am biased in favor of Hasan Ali. Anyway, he did what he could. And yes, Naseem did a splendid job in the first match (with the bat).

Pakistani players have good bowling defence and this is amazing they batted well.
I think they have tested the team how would they perform in the absence of Shaheen Afridi. But Afridi too is an amazing player - hard to ignore.

Back in late 1990s and early 2000s, they had 3-4 quality bowlers such as Akram, Shoaib, Saqlain and Waqar. So even if one is unavailable, someone like Mohammad Sami would fill in. But now Shaheen is the only consistent bowler. The younger ones such as Hasnain and Naseem are yet to prove that they are reliable. Also, they lack a pace bowling all-rounder, such as Abdul Razzaq who was in the team a decade or so ago.

The players you mentioned are legendary players. They have made their name in sports.
Also Imran Khan is still ruling the hearts of the people. But having said that. Every golden era ends. So one should enjoy their golden era and leave with dignity.

Those are legendary players, but think of the opportunity they had. They were given chances even when they weren't in good form for matches. Now this is a pressure, of a player isn't able to perform the opportunity moves to the next player who is in the queue. This pressure itself down the performance of players.

[pakhitheboss]

After disappointing performance by England in the T20 series with South Africa I hope they win the test series which will start from 17th August. South Africa already tops the point table for the test world cup. England is ranking 7th and if they want to improve their ranking they need to win all the three test matches.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

After disappointing performance by England in the T20 series with South Africa I hope they win the test series which will start from 17th August. South Africa already tops the point table for the test world cup. England is ranking 7th and if they want to improve their ranking they need to win all the three test matches.

England is fully struggling these days. Ben has taken over as test captain and it will take some time before we can say that whether Ben is good choice as test captain or not. Between performance of England so far in ODI and T20I series is not disappointing they played well in all matches.

[BobK71]

After disappointing performance by England in the T20 series with South Africa I hope they win the test series which will start from 17th August. South Africa already tops the point table for the test world cup. England is ranking 7th and if they want to improve their ranking they need to win all the three test matches.

With just a few months to go before the T20 World Cup cricket, it is a matter of great concern if any team defeat in t20 cricket without any resistance. The match between England and South Africa was played yesterday in which England was defeated by 90 runs. Such a big run loss is rare in their international T20 cricket. England's top-order bats man collect short runs for this reason they had to loss the match. England team have highly experienced cricketers they will find the mistakes and take necessary step for the next game. I expect in test series they perform better and will try to won the series.

[DanWalker]

After disappointing performance by England in the T20 series with South Africa I hope they win the test series which will start from 17th August. South Africa already tops the point table for the test world cup. England is ranking 7th and if they want to improve their ranking they need to win all the three test matches.

With just a few months to go before the T20 World Cup cricket, it is a matter of great concern if any team defeat in t20 cricket without any resistance. The match between England and South Africa was played yesterday in which England was defeated by 90 runs. Such a big run loss is rare in their international T20 cricket. England's top-order bats man collect short runs for this reason they had to loss the match. England team have highly experienced cricketers they will find the mistakes and take necessary step for the next game. I expect in test series they perform better and will try to won the series.

It was a very disappointing performance from England. They should have done a lot better. I hope that they will be able to find out the problems quickly with the T-20 World Cup right on the horizon. England had a disappointing performance all around. Even though a lot of people are trying to say that there are some positives from this match, I don’t believe that. Honestly, there was nothing positive for England in that match. And am I the only one who thinks England should find another player instead of playing Chris Jordan? I know he is a capable player but I have to say he is a little overrated.