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December 03, 2022, 02:54:48 PM
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England batted well and scored 657 runs in the first innings. Perhaps England wanted to win this match. But without the good performance of the bowlers it is not possible to win on such a flat pitch. On the third day, he collected 499 runs with the loss of 7 wickets. Pakistan's batsmen will also try to reduce their gap with Pakistan tomorrow. I guess Pakistan will lose all wickets by 550. And we will definitely see a draw unless a miracle happens.

Since Pakistan has managed to avoid follow on, I don't think that the outcome can be any different than draw. Pakistan may make a total of 550-600. England need to score at least 250-300 more, to make sure that they don't lose the match. And that will give England less than a day to bowl out Pakistan. And given the track conditions at Pindi, I don't think that it is a possible scenario.

BTW, anyone watching the Australia vs West Indies match? It is much more exciting. With one day remaining, West Indies need more than 300 runs to win, with 7 wickets in hand. Australia is having an upper hand right now, but we can't be sure about their win at this point.

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December 03, 2022, 03:31:48 PM
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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.
I really don't understand the logic of PCB here to prepare such dead wickets. I am sure it is not the fear of loss as Pakistan has good bowling options that could have been exploited on fast pitches. Don't know who gave them these suggestions to make a dead pitch.
A team as good as England is coming to our country, we should have prepared good pitches, no one wants to watch these dead pitches matches. Honestly, I prefer to watch FIFA world cup matches and highlights rather than watching these batsmen from both countries piling up the runs.
That's true when you watch FIFA you watch wonderful, exciting matches with the efforts of their host country  who have prepared outstanding world class stadiums for this world cup .
Then here we have this test series in which players are just collecting runs making centuries and that's it. Atleast PCB have prepared and worked on thier pitches.  I don't know how is Ramiz Raja going to organise Asia Cup in pakistan with this casual attitude.
Are we having the Asia Cup in Pakistan? I heard somewhere that since India does not want to come to Pakistan to play the Asia cup, the venue may be shifted to some Neutral venue as, without India, the Asia cup won't be of any interest.
Coming back to this test match, the pitch is a big mess here. Think that players are making centuries but no one is appreciating them because it is more of the dead pitches that is playing the part in all these runs.
Yea Asia Cup is happening in Pakistan and Ramiz Raja recently told in a press conference that its happening with or without India.  Now that's a big question mark for all the world and ICC too how will the tournament held without India and BCCI?

Is it possible to organize a big tournament like Asia Cup without BCCI? We all know that BCCI has big influence over ICC. Because BCCI can be considered as the main funder of ICC. Also, India has a huge fan base of cricket. I think more than half of cricket fans in the world are Indians. Because their population is huge. I don't think it is possible to host the Asia Cup without such a country. If BCCI voluntarily abstains from playing Asia Cup then maybe possible.

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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.
I really don't understand the logic of PCB here to prepare such dead wickets. I am sure it is not the fear of loss as Pakistan has good bowling options that could have been exploited on fast pitches. Don't know who gave them these suggestions to make a dead pitch.
A team as good as England is coming to our country, we should have prepared good pitches, no one wants to watch these dead pitches matches. Honestly, I prefer to watch FIFA world cup matches and highlights rather than watching these batsmen from both countries piling up the runs.
That's true when you watch FIFA you watch wonderful, exciting matches with the efforts of their host country  who have prepared outstanding world class stadiums for this world cup .
Then here we have this test series in which players are just collecting runs making centuries and that's it. Atleast PCB have prepared and worked on thier pitches.  I don't know how is Ramiz Raja going to organise Asia Cup in pakistan with this casual attitude.
Are we having the Asia Cup in Pakistan? I heard somewhere that since India does not want to come to Pakistan to play the Asia cup, the venue may be shifted to some Neutral venue as, without India, the Asia cup won't be of any interest.
Coming back to this test match, the pitch is a big mess here. Think that players are making centuries but no one is appreciating them because it is more of the dead pitches that is playing the part in all these runs.
Yea Asia Cup is happening in Pakistan and Ramiz Raja recently told in a press conference that its happening with or without India.  Now that's a big question mark for all the world and ICC too how will the tournament held without India and BCCI?

Is it possible to organize a big tournament like Asia Cup without BCCI? We all know that BCCI has big influence over ICC. Because BCCI can be considered as the main funder of ICC. Also, India has a huge fan base of cricket. I think more than half of cricket fans in the world are Indians. Because their population is huge. I don't think it is possible to host the Asia Cup without such a country. If BCCI voluntarily abstains from playing Asia Cup then maybe possible.
Every thing is possible, so please forget about BCCI and wait for the next movement from the PCB about their stance of Asia Cup because now things looking more aggressive from their side, and they are not going for any compromise which mean we will have bad time in this game with India is not coming Pakistan, and they are not going India for the world cup its reality.

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December 03, 2022, 03:53:53 PM
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As expected this match is going draw, all thanks to PCB and the pitch curator. Indeed Pakistan has lost 7 wickets but, 3 days have been exhausted out of 5 and Inam sure Pakistan would try to utilise the whole 4 day to avoid a defeat in their home ground. I completely wasted test match with no result is a maximum possibility now.  
Wishful scenario but

Let's say England picks the last 3 wickets quickly in the morning with a minimum lead of 120-ish and is followed by another Bazball batting performance by smashing 280-300 runs in 50-60 overs.

We know we are losing 8-10 overs every day due to bad light so Poms need to give approx 100 overs to Pakistan for a 400-ish run chase and If the pitch stays the same then hope Pakistan takes the bait and tries to win the match.

How are you sure Pakistan chase the score of 400+ even on this wicket? Pakistan can make 600 runs if you don't give them a target but if you give them a target of even 300 runs on a dead wicket, they will make drama out of it at least, if not lose it.

I would only say that Pakistan can still lose this match if they start to play with irresponsibility. I am still waiting for Pakistan batting collapse in the fourth innings if match goes that far.

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December 03, 2022, 03:56:11 PM
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anyone watching the Australia vs West Indies match? It is much more exciting. With one day remaining, West Indies need more than 300 runs to win, with 7 wickets in hand. Australia is having an upper hand right now, but we can't be sure about their win at this point.
Talking about test between Pakistan vs England is useless because we all know PCB is famous for their historical blunders, and they are doing this second time in 2022 with first against Australia and now against England.

Australia vs West Indies is now entered into interesting stage while West indies start their chase of 498 runs I was feeling this match will end today but against Brathwaite and Chandrapur Jr done amazing job and give good start to their team with lost first wicket on 116 but after this suddenly they lost two quick wickets which bring them back foot but still we have Brathwaite at crease with a hundred runs in front of his name, and he is big player who can do good job for his team which is required right now, so hopefully they will do some good resistance and match will end at high note for them.

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December 03, 2022, 04:05:00 PM
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Pakistan scored 181 runs in 51 overs by batting today. Pakistan has not lost any wicket so far. But I am waiting to see how Pakistan will play tomorrow. Now the thing to watch is if England can perform well in bowling then Pakistan will not be able to score so many runs in this match.
It is not about the bowling of either England or Pakistan, the pitch is a flat dead wicket and there is no purchase for the bowlers and hence England batsman were able to score freely and made huge runs including two double centuries and now it is the Pakistan batsman's turn to pile in the runs and if they play carefully the match will end up in a draw and some of the batsman will be improving their career averages  Cheesy.
I really don't understand the logic of PCB here to prepare such dead wickets. I am sure it is not the fear of loss as Pakistan has good bowling options that could have been exploited on fast pitches. Don't know who gave them these suggestions to make a dead pitch.
A team as good as England is coming to our country, we should have prepared good pitches, no one wants to watch these dead pitches matches. Honestly, I prefer to watch FIFA world cup matches and highlights rather than watching these batsmen from both countries piling up the runs.
That's true when you watch FIFA you watch wonderful, exciting matches with the efforts of their host country  who have prepared outstanding world class stadiums for this world cup .
Then here we have this test series in which players are just collecting runs making centuries and that's it. Atleast PCB have prepared and worked on thier pitches.  I don't know how is Ramiz Raja going to organise Asia Cup in pakistan with this casual attitude.
Are we having the Asia Cup in Pakistan? I heard somewhere that since India does not want to come to Pakistan to play the Asia cup, the venue may be shifted to some Neutral venue as, without India, the Asia cup won't be of any interest.
Coming back to this test match, the pitch is a big mess here. Think that players are making centuries but no one is appreciating them because it is more of the dead pitches that is playing the part in all these runs.
Yea Asia Cup is happening in Pakistan and Ramiz Raja recently told in a press conference that its happening with or without India.  Now that's a big question mark for all the world and ICC too how will the tournament held without India and BCCI?

Is it possible to organize a big tournament like Asia Cup without BCCI? We all know that BCCI has big influence over ICC. Because BCCI can be considered as the main funder of ICC. Also, India has a huge fan base of cricket. I think more than half of cricket fans in the world are Indians. Because their population is huge. I don't think it is possible to host the Asia Cup without such a country. If BCCI voluntarily abstains from playing Asia Cup then maybe possible.
Every thing is possible, so please forget about BCCI and wait for the next movement from the PCB about their stance of Asia Cup because now things looking more aggressive from their side, and they are not going for any compromise which mean we will have bad time in this game with India is not coming Pakistan, and they are not going India for the world cup its reality.

India's biggest influence on ICC is just nothing because it's not mean now you can do anything which you want to do bigger mean you have more responsibility it's not mean use of power for wrong things sadly they are not thinking about these ground realities and creating wrong things in sports.

Yes now all of us are waiting for ICC to give their final decision after discussing things with BCCI and PCB . Ramiz Raja is not ready to listen anything in this matter and has given his final statement regarding Asia Cup.

This sort of intolerance and derogatory remarks should be avoided by all cricket boards . Cricket is a gentleman game and it should be played with its true spirit.

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December 03, 2022, 04:53:36 PM
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England batted well and scored 657 runs in the first innings. Perhaps England wanted to win this match. But without the good performance of the bowlers it is not possible to win on such a flat pitch. On the third day, he collected 499 runs with the loss of 7 wickets. Pakistan's batsmen will also try to reduce their gap with Pakistan tomorrow. I guess Pakistan will lose all wickets by 550. And we will definitely see a draw unless a miracle happens.
Since Pakistan has managed to avoid follow on, I don't think that the outcome can be any different than draw. Pakistan may make a total of 550-600. England need to score at least 250-300 more, to make sure that they don't lose the match. And that will give England less than a day to bowl out Pakistan. And given the track conditions at Pindi, I don't think that it is a possible scenario.
Here I am not agreed with you about Pakistan because even they avoid follow on but if England can still win this match because now they can take remaining wickets very quickly and after this if they are able to have some fireworks like first inning and give 400+ lead and give them batting again they can win this match because I remembered few matches while most of the peoples were feeling draw of win for the Pakistan but in last few sessions of the test match they lost wickets very quickly and give shocking victories to their opponents once against Sri Lanka and secondly against New Zealand so here things can go in favour of England like we have against Australia in last test match series which were also going to end into dead rubber, but they have good luck as we all know luck helps braves so just wait and watch how England done, and we will have end of this dead match into entertaining end.

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Test match ohhh this PAK vs ENG test match is getting intense, I would say the pitch really proved to be the worst one anyway this match is still hanging between a draw or win but I can see that most of the chances are that match is going to be drawn on. PCB chief a very disappointing statement no action on the pitch. Babar Azam played well, but Rizwan played well but his wicket was the turning point.

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Talking about test between Pakistan vs England is useless because we all know PCB is famous for their historical blunders, and they are doing this second time in 2022 with first against Australia and now against England.

And then they complain that no one visits their country to play cricket. Which country or board likes to play on such dead pitches? These pitches may be heaven for batsmen but they are nightmares for the bowlers.


Test match ohhh this PAK vs ENG test match is getting intense, I would say the pitch really proved to be the worst one anyway this match is still hanging between a draw or win but I can see that most of the chances are that match is going to be drawn on. PCB chief a very disappointing statement no action on the pitch. Babar Azam played well, but Rizwan played well but his wicket was the turning point.

How do you see this test match as intense? I would call it a boring match being played on a dead surface. I think ICC should charge the board for making such sub-standard pitches.

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December 03, 2022, 06:20:11 PM
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Test match ohhh this PAK vs ENG test match is getting intense, I would say the pitch really proved to be the worst one anyway this match is still hanging between a draw or win but I can see that most of the chances are that match is going to be drawn on. PCB chief a very disappointing statement no action on the pitch. Babar Azam played well, but Rizwan played well but his wicket was the turning point.
How do you see this test match as intense? I would call it a boring match being played on a dead surface. I think ICC should charge the board for making such sub-standard pitches.

You are right. It was a very boring match. But England's batting on the first day surprised everyone. They scored a lot of runs. But enjoying a test match on a flat pitch is boring. The bowlers can't do any favors. The result of the match depends on the performance of the batsmen. And the important thing is that these matches are mostly drawn. When a match is played on such a Test pitch, it is very difficult, almost impossible, for any team to win.

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December 03, 2022, 08:51:41 PM
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Talking about test between Pakistan vs England is useless because we all know PCB is famous for their historical blunders, and they are doing this second time in 2022 with first against Australia and now against England.

And then they complain that no one visits their country to play cricket. Which country or board likes to play on such dead pitches? These pitches may be heaven for batsmen but they are nightmares for the bowlers.


Test match ohhh this PAK vs ENG test match is getting intense, I would say the pitch really proved to be the worst one anyway this match is still hanging between a draw or win but I can see that most of the chances are that match is going to be drawn on. PCB chief a very disappointing statement no action on the pitch. Babar Azam played well, but Rizwan played well but his wicket was the turning point.

How do you see this test match as intense? I would call it a boring match being played on a dead surface. I think ICC should charge the board for making such sub-standard pitches.

Dear calm down i have already mentioned that Pitch is worst one in this worst pitch i think the match was quite fun let me elaborate my words as i said. England did really great with fighting back for a win as you said worst pitch ever still they tried their best. On side of Pakistan i have already mentioned that Babar Azam played well, Rizwan started good but as you know it ended on wrong mode. So intense means it was quite good and dear its Test match not the ODI or the T20I so that you can see a close fight.
I called it intense on the sense of Hanging match as Pakistan can't afford any Weak spell now and ENG did great bowling.

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December 03, 2022, 10:05:40 PM
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Test match ohhh this PAK vs ENG test match is getting intense, I would say the pitch really proved to be the worst one anyway this match is still hanging between a draw or win but I can see that most of the chances are that match is going to be drawn on. PCB chief a very disappointing statement no action on the pitch. Babar Azam played well, but Rizwan played well but his wicket was the turning point.
How do you see this test match as intense? I would call it a boring match being played on a dead surface. I think ICC should charge the board for making such sub-standard pitches.
Dear calm down i have already mentioned that Pitch is worst one in this worst pitch i think the match was quite fun let me elaborate my words as i said. England did really great with fighting back for a win as you said worst pitch ever still they tried their best. On side of Pakistan i have already mentioned that Babar Azam played well, Rizwan started good but as you know it ended on wrong mode. So intense means it was quite good and dear its Test match not the ODI or the T20I so that you can see a close fight.
I called it intense on the sense of Hanging match as Pakistan can't afford any Weak spell now and ENG did great bowling.

Honestly, I don't think that there will be any outcome to this match, other than a draw, which is what I expect to happen. We have already reached the end of the third day of the series. As of right now, the first innings of Pakistan are still in progress. I am aware that Pakistan might end up trailing in this inning. However, that is not going to be a big problem at all, as long as England does not declare early enough to get all the ten wickets. And it is quite impossible on this track to get all the time we get on the same day. So I don’t see any winner in this match.

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December 03, 2022, 10:24:02 PM
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Test match ohhh this PAK vs ENG test match is getting intense, I would say the pitch really proved to be the worst one anyway this match is still hanging between a draw or win but I can see that most of the chances are that match is going to be drawn on. PCB chief a very disappointing statement no action on the pitch. Babar Azam played well, but Rizwan played well but his wicket was the turning point.
How do you see this test match as intense? I would call it a boring match being played on a dead surface. I think ICC should charge the board for making such sub-standard pitches.
Dear calm down i have already mentioned that Pitch is worst one in this worst pitch i think the match was quite fun let me elaborate my words as i said. England did really great with fighting back for a win as you said worst pitch ever still they tried their best. On side of Pakistan i have already mentioned that Babar Azam played well, Rizwan started good but as you know it ended on wrong mode. So intense means it was quite good and dear its Test match not the ODI or the T20I so that you can see a close fight.
I called it intense on the sense of Hanging match as Pakistan can't afford any Weak spell now and ENG did great bowling.

Honestly, I don't think that there will be any outcome to this match, other than a draw, which is what I expect to happen. We have already reached the end of the third day of the series. As of right now, the first innings of Pakistan are still in progress. I am aware that Pakistan might end up trailing in this inning. However, that is not going to be a big problem at all, as long as England does not declare early enough to get all the ten wickets. And it is quite impossible on this track to get all the time we get on the same day. So I don’t see any winner in this match.
Pakistan is playing the best innings. Four players from England scored century. Now three Pakistan players have scored century. Pakistan have reached 499/7 which is good considering the target from England. The probability for a result out of the match is narrow, but my inner mind feels of England winning the match.
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England's new world record, 506 runs in 75 overs on the first day of the Test.  Only 75 overs were played on the first day of England's first Test against the hosts in Rawalpindi.  And history was made within these 75 overs. England picked up 506 runs for the first four wickets in this incredible batting.  In the history of 144 years, this is the first test cricket match to take 500 runs on the first day. I don't know how many more runs would have been collected if the old 90 overs were played.I have given the list of highest runs in test history so far.

Score          Match.                                            Venue.                  Season
*506.          England (506/4)-Pakistan.           Rawalpindi.          2022-23
*494.          Australia (494/6)-South Africa.   Sydney.                 1910-11
*482.          Australia (482/5)-South Africa.   Adelaide.              2012-13
*475.          Australia (475/2)-England.           Oval.                      1934
*471.          England (471/8)-India.                   Oval.                     1936
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Australia needs 7 wickets to win, while West Indies need 306 runs, at the Perth Stadium. The emergence of Tagenarine Chanderpaul should be excellent news for West Indies. The way he handled the Australian bowlers such as Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood deserves a lot of praise. But for today, it is up to Kraigg Brathwaite and others to either save/win the match for West Indies. If the track starts offering support for the spinners, then the situation may get tricky for West Indies. Anyway, for now West Indies is out of contention for the World Test Championship final.

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December 04, 2022, 11:18:20 AM
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Whatever but i really enjoyed the the first over of the day 4 innings as Naseem Shah Impressed by his over. 1-1 that was the only most exciting time in the whole match. The decent over done by naseem shah. As always Pakistan Fast bowling lineup is OP. I am not sure on the end of the match what condition of pitch is going to be. The most biggest highlight of the match is and going to be is The Pitch and Butlers Dent.

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December 04, 2022, 12:25:21 PM
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Australia needs 7 wickets to win, while West Indies need 306 runs, at the Perth Stadium. The emergence of Tagenarine Chanderpaul should be excellent news for West Indies. The way he handled the Australian bowlers such as Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood deserves a lot of praise. But for today, it is up to Kraigg Brathwaite and others to either save/win the match for West Indies. If the track starts offering support for the spinners, then the situation may get tricky for West Indies. Anyway, for now West Indies is out of contention for the World Test Championship final.

Australia started the match really well but they played very bad at times but I think Australia team is very strong but they have some girls who perform well which is out of the question I have seen Australia perform quite well in few matches but I think Australia have their  The team has very good batting besides opening and bowling.
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The match between Pakistan and England is looking very intresting. I thought that it might end in draw but now both the teams have a chance to win the first test. Although Pakistan has lost two wickets but they have the ability to chase 263 on the 5th day. All they need to do is not lose anymore wickets and form a partnership. England to can snatch this match from the hands of Pakistan if they can get 8 wickets on the last day. The last day looks pretty interesting at this point.

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The match between Pakistan and England is looking very intresting. I thought that it might end in draw but now both the teams have a chance to win the first test. Although Pakistan has lost two wickets but they have the ability to chase 263 on the 5th day. All they need to do is not lose anymore wickets and form a partnership. England to can snatch this match from the hands of Pakistan if they can get 8 wickets on the last day. The last day looks pretty interesting at this point.
All credit goes to the England team (Ben Stokes and the coach Brendon McCullum).

They are really playing with a positive and result oriented mindset. I bet most of the test teams would think twice about declaring the inning after playing just 35 overs on such a dead pitch but this English leadership is targeting a result. Win or lose, that's a different discussion.

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The match between Pakistan and England is looking very intresting. I thought that it might end in draw but now both the teams have a chance to win the first test. Although Pakistan has lost two wickets but they have the ability to chase 263 on the 5th day. All they need to do is not lose anymore wickets and form a partnership. England to can snatch this match from the hands of Pakistan if they can get 8 wickets on the last day. The last day looks pretty interesting at this point.
No one was expecting decision like this from England and Ben Stokes, but they play a big gamble and most chances this will go in their favour specially after wicket of Babar Azam now Pakistani batting lineup is under pressure, and they will not play freely which will help English bowling on fifth day of this test match and this dead match is now going to end in a very entertaining way all praises to England and their management.

In second inning they play really amazing batting and not allowed any bowler to give them tough time which is surely the best part of this test match and with this now they could be having good chance in this match and series if they keep this spirit and momentum then surely in next season England will be one of the best test playing team.

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