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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
Total Voters: 33

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August 03, 2022, 12:17:32 PM
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I like to assume that SMB vs TNT will be facing the Finals if Meralco and Magnolia will not respond in the 2nd game.

If SMB will face TNT, I think SMB will win as they have the weapon to stop Mikey Williams.
They have a healthy Fajardo, and other bigs who are not playing on a high confidence.

Well, it's too early to judge, only game 1 was concluded, we still have more games to come.

The betting now is not good I think because TNT and SMB already got 1 win respectively. However, I'd be happy to bet on Magnolia to win to anyone who can give me +1.5 in the series, I will put a maximum of Php3000 (btc equivalent) for this one.

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August 03, 2022, 01:38:17 PM
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I like to assume that SMB vs TNT will be facing the Finals if Meralco and Magnolia will not respond in the 2nd game.

If SMB will face TNT, I think SMB will win as they have the weapon to stop Mikey Williams.
They have a healthy Fajardo, and other bigs who are not playing on a high confidence.

Well, it's too early to judge, only game 1 was concluded, we still have more games to come.

The betting now is not good I think because TNT and SMB already got 1 win respectively. However, I'd be happy to bet on Magnolia to win to anyone who can give me +1.5 in the series, I will put a maximum of Php3000 (btc equivalent) for this one.

Yes you are right that mate it's a good match up if San Miguel beer men vs TNT tropang giga will face in the finals as we all know that both team have a lethal weapon. And also  SMB has Junmar Fajardo that can stop mikey willams in terms of offenses but we can not predict the outcome if this fight won't happen for now. Because as we all know that TNT has many good players. and both team are strong enough.

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August 03, 2022, 03:03:56 PM
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I thought that it would be a close game until the game as I think they are evenly matched but I was wrong, Magnolia hasn't figured a way yet to stop Mikey Williams. I'm sure there will be adjustments but I'm not sure that it would be enough for the Hotshots to win the second game.


Is Mikey Williams too hard to handle for the Hotshots? Normally he takes over in the 2nd half but in this game, he unleashes early on. I wonder what adjustment the Hotshot will do in the next game. It is too early to tell who's winning this series because we all know Magnolia can adjust in this type of situation. Let's see in game 2 if they can recover.

As we saw in their game earlier something like that they struggling to handle mikey Williams. 26 score for mikey said that Magnolia can not stop him in this game. Magnolia hot shots need a hard adjustment because we all know that not only mikey willams is a top scorer also there's pugoy who can quite contribute a big points per game. So magnolia need to set a good defense strategy and offense as well.

Williams is really unstoppable he can dominate whoever will guard him, Magnolia doesn't have that man to bring tight defense for this guy, he really do the damage, and yes, like what you have mentioned, not just Williams but Pugoy and the rest of the Texters are all capable, it is the semis now and adjustments is really needed after the game.

Magnolia needs someone to counter the offense of TNT. If they can't guard that tight, they needed to counterattack and make those attempts to close the gap and try winning the game.

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August 04, 2022, 06:30:38 AM
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Magnolia needs someone to counter the offense of TNT. If they can't guard that tight, they needed to counterattack and make those attempts to close the gap and try winning the game.

Their best offensive player is Paul Lee but it seems like Paul Lee is already aging, so they need someone who could really be consistent in this series. Game2 is going to be a tight game, that's my prediction and when the game is tight especially if it's a low-scoring game, that favors the Magnolia.

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August 04, 2022, 10:08:44 AM
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Magnolia needs someone to counter the offense of TNT. If they can't guard that tight, they needed to counterattack and make those attempts to close the gap and try winning the game.

Their best offensive player is Paul Lee but it seems like Paul Lee is already aging, so they need someone who could really be consistent in this series. Game2 is going to be a tight game, that's my prediction and when the game is tight especially if it's a low-scoring game, that favors the Magnolia.

Paul Lee is injury prone now, though he is still a good offensive weapon but with those many injuries he is no longer capable of bringing the number the way he uses to be, especially when tight defense is there from Poguy or William itself. Magnolia needs to work together as one. Calvin, Ian, Paul, Jio and Barroca, together with all the role players, need to find ways to counter the dominating firepower of TNT.

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August 04, 2022, 10:30:26 AM
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Magnolia needs someone to counter the offense of TNT. If they can't guard that tight, they needed to counterattack and make those attempts to close the gap and try winning the game.

Their best offensive player is Paul Lee but it seems like Paul Lee is already aging, so they need someone who could really be consistent in this series. Game2 is going to be a tight game, that's my prediction and when the game is tight especially if it's a low-scoring game, that favors the Magnolia.

Paul Lee is injury prone now, though he is still a good offensive weapon but with those many injuries he is no longer capable of bringing the number the way he uses to be, especially when tight defense is there from Poguy or William itself. Magnolia needs to work together as one. Calvin, Ian, Paul, Jio and Barroca, together with all the role players, need to find ways to counter the dominating firepower of TNT.

They surely have learned from their loss in game 1, they need to work together, they cannot rely on few players only as that's not what Magnolia was made of. I'm thinking maybe betting on them in the first half, they might start strong in game 2, I'm sure they are still listed as underdog.

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August 04, 2022, 11:33:31 AM
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Betting lines are out for game 2.

SMB -5.5 vs Bolts +5.5

Hotshots +2.5 vs TNT -2.5

With this kind of odds, I'm staying away on the Bolts but would rather put my bet on Hotshots ML.
What are your thoughts on the games tomorrow?
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August 04, 2022, 12:48:30 PM
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Betting lines are out for game 2.

SMB -5.5 vs Bolts +5.5

Hotshots +2.5 vs TNT -2.5

With this kind of odds, I'm staying away on the Bolts but would rather put my bet on Hotshots ML.
What are your thoughts on the games tomorrow?

I can take the Bolts +5.5, I think that is a good odds even if when the first game was lopsided. I believe Bolts will make the necessary adjustments to beat SMB in their matchup tomorrow.

The same can be said with the Hotshots. I do not believe they will lose 2 games in a row.

This can be risky bets but I can take it. Good luck to your bets.
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August 04, 2022, 03:52:13 PM
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Just for fun guys! I should have posted this early but was too busy for a few days now.

Who will win the All-Filipino Conference Champion this year?

Bet: Php 5,000 max bet/team | Winner Take All

Talk N Text - harizen - Php 5,000
Magnolia -
San Miguel Beermen -
Meralco Bolts -


I saw this late. I should have placed a thousand on the Beermen if others are willing to fill it. But I guess the betting is already close.

Didn't see this one when it was posted by harizen, could have put my bet on the Beermen if only i'm aware on this one.

Anyways, is this still open or closed already?

Since TNT and SMB won their respective Game 1, let's push this.

If anyone still wants to bet on Meralco or Magnolia despite losing Game 1, you can still participate guys. Cut-off 5 minutes before Game 2 starts.

Should I list you now both for SMB? I think many wants to bet on SMB here too that wanted a share of the bet.

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August 04, 2022, 09:44:11 PM
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Just for fun guys! I should have posted this early but was too busy for a few days now.

Who will win the All-Filipino Conference Champion this year?

Bet: Php 5,000 max bet/team | Winner Take All

Talk N Text - harizen - Php 5,000
Magnolia -
San Miguel Beermen -
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I saw this late. I should have placed a thousand on the Beermen if others are willing to fill it. But I guess the betting is already close.

Didn't see this one when it was posted by harizen, could have put my bet on the Beermen if only i'm aware on this one.

Anyways, is this still open or closed already?

Since TNT and SMB won their respective Game 1, let's push this.

If anyone still wants to bet on Meralco or Magnolia despite losing Game 1, you can still participate guys. Cut-off 5 minutes before Game 2 starts.

Should I list you now both for SMB? I think many wants to bet on SMB here too that wanted a share of the bet.

To give chance to others, I'll just bet 2k Php for SMB so yeah put me on the list now mate.



First game for today would be SMB Beermen vs Meralco Bolts and the odds have not changed too much from the first game so if you are an avid fan of SMB Beermen then i think we should go for this SMB -5.5 @1.88 boosted, i don't think the Bolts could adjust in game two maybe on game 3 they can beat SMB.

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August 05, 2022, 01:33:11 AM
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They surely have learned from their loss in game 1, they need to work together, they cannot rely on few players only as that's not what Magnolia was made of. I'm thinking maybe betting on them in the first half, they might start strong in game 2, I'm sure they are still listed as underdog.

Yes, still underdog, they really need to work as a team and try to play good defense too. With how dominating William in their last game the need of someone to step forward is really needed, I used to remember the old day when The Big 3 of Purefoods was still playing, King James and Peter Simon for their offensive attacks while Ping will take care of the boards and tough defense to any top scorer of the opposing side, He even take Jason Castro while the Blurr still on his prime.

Though it's already a new system and the players are moving according to how the coach wants them to rotate, let's see if how they will counter TNT's attack and what will be the adjustment to win the game.

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August 05, 2022, 02:37:57 AM
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They surely have learned from their loss in game 1, they need to work together, they cannot rely on few players only as that's not what Magnolia was made of. I'm thinking maybe betting on them in the first half, they might start strong in game 2, I'm sure they are still listed as underdog.

Yes, still underdog, they really need to work as a team and try to play good defense too. With how dominating William in their last game the need of someone to step forward is really needed, I used to remember the old day when The Big 3 of Purefoods was still playing, King James and Peter Simon for their offensive attacks while Ping will take care of the boards and tough defense to any top scorer of the opposing side, He even take Jason Castro while the Blurr still on his prime.

Though it's already a new system and the players are moving according to how the coach wants them to rotate, let's see if how they will counter TNT's attack and what will be the adjustment to win the game.

Magnolia is still a decent team though, they were on a winning streak going to the quarter finals, so I'm sure they'll figure out something to win in game 2. Still +2.5 for Magnolia, I think the odds is very attractive knowing they needed to win to even the series if they lose, at least that +2.5 still has a chance.

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August 05, 2022, 02:55:19 AM
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They surely have learned from their loss in game 1, they need to work together, they cannot rely on few players only as that's not what Magnolia was made of. I'm thinking maybe betting on them in the first half, they might start strong in game 2, I'm sure they are still listed as underdog.

Yes, still underdog, they really need to work as a team and try to play good defense too. With how dominating William in their last game the need of someone to step forward is really needed, I used to remember the old day when The Big 3 of Purefoods was still playing, King James and Peter Simon for their offensive attacks while Ping will take care of the boards and tough defense to any top scorer of the opposing side, He even take Jason Castro while the Blurr still on his prime.

Though it's already a new system and the players are moving according to how the coach wants them to rotate, let's see if how they will counter TNT's attack and what will be the adjustment to win the game.

Magnolia is still a decent team though, they were on a winning streak going to the quarter finals, so I'm sure they'll figure out something to win in game 2. Still +2.5 for Magnolia, I think the odds is very attractive knowing they needed to win to even the series if they lose, at least that +2.5 still has a chance.
I can't consider Magnolia as a decent team only IMO but with their current roster, they are a championship team. Mental fatigue affected the Hotshots and also the Bolts that's why they lose by double digits against the top teams who has a longer time to rest. They played 3 hard-fought games against NLEX and Ginebra and only have a 1 or 2 day rest before going to Semis.

Now we are in Game 2 and a must win for the Hotshots to make it even or else, it will be hard for them to win the series knowing it's the TNT that they are facing. Aside from that, they must find a way to at least decrease the efficiency of Mikey Williams offensively. I wonder who will Coach Victolero put to defend Williams.

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August 05, 2022, 03:16:27 AM
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They surely have learned from their loss in game 1, they need to work together, they cannot rely on few players only as that's not what Magnolia was made of. I'm thinking maybe betting on them in the first half, they might start strong in game 2, I'm sure they are still listed as underdog.

Yes, still underdog, they really need to work as a team and try to play good defense too. With how dominating William in their last game the need of someone to step forward is really needed, I used to remember the old day when The Big 3 of Purefoods was still playing, King James and Peter Simon for their offensive attacks while Ping will take care of the boards and tough defense to any top scorer of the opposing side, He even take Jason Castro while the Blurr still on his prime.

Though it's already a new system and the players are moving according to how the coach wants them to rotate, let's see if how they will counter TNT's attack and what will be the adjustment to win the game.

Magnolia is still a decent team though, they were on a winning streak going to the quarter finals, so I'm sure they'll figure out something to win in game 2. Still +2.5 for Magnolia, I think the odds is very attractive knowing they needed to win to even the series if they lose, at least that +2.5 still has a chance.
I can't consider Magnolia as a decent team only IMO but with their current roster, they are a championship team. Mental fatigue affected the Hotshots and also the Bolts that's why they lose by double digits against the top teams who has a longer time to rest. They played 3 hard-fought games against NLEX and Ginebra and only have a 1 or 2 day rest before going to Semis.

Now we are in Game 2 and a must win for the Hotshots to make it even or else, it will be hard for them to win the series knowing it's the TNT that they are facing. Aside from that, they must find a way to at least decrease the efficiency of Mikey Williams offensively. I wonder who will Coach Victolero put to defend Williams.

I'm counting on them to be more effective in game 2, yes it's a must-win for them because if they still could not at least limit Williams, then most likely the game will be the same in game 1 which I don't expect will happen. I like to believe that they are a tough team, they won't easily give up without a fight, so I am also expecting a low scoring game in game 2 where Magnolia is dictating the pace of the game.

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August 05, 2022, 08:09:24 AM
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Looks like Meralco really made the right adjustment, they were up by double digits early but now they are only up 3 points after the first half. What's important is they started strong, now, let's see if they will be able to carry that intensity in the 2nd half to even the series.
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August 05, 2022, 10:55:37 AM
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Looks like Meralco really made the right adjustment, they were up by double digits early but now they are only up 3 points after the first half. What's important is they started strong, now, let's see if they will be able to carry that intensity in the 2nd half to even the series.
Yes, they won the game and has even the series, it's now tied 1-1. Great game by Black, he was the player of the game and happy to see coach Norman is back. It's a team's effort, I hope they can still play that well in game 3 as SMB will certainly make an adjustment to lead the series. Good luck,

By the way, TN vs Magnolia, Magnolia is up 10 points after the first half.

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August 05, 2022, 11:02:26 AM
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Looks like Meralco really made the right adjustment, they were up by double digits early but now they are only up 3 points after the first half. What's important is they started strong, now, let's see if they will be able to carry that intensity in the 2nd half to even the series.
Yes, they won the game and has even the series, it's now tied 1-1. Great game by Black, he was the player of the game and happy to see coach Norman is back. It's a team's effort, I hope they can still play that well in game 3 as SMB will certainly make an adjustment to lead the series. Good luck,

I thought that they are going to choke in the 4th quarter, having a huge lead in the first half, however, they give up points, score is 76-74 early in the fourth quarter.

But since Black is there, they were able to compose themselves as Raymar Jose provided the spark scoring 7 points in that run a 9-2 putting them in front 85-76 and that was enough for them to win and tie the series 1-1.

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August 05, 2022, 11:18:05 AM
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Looks like Meralco really made the right adjustment, they were up by double digits early but now they are only up 3 points after the first half. What's important is they started strong, now, let's see if they will be able to carry that intensity in the 2nd half to even the series.
Yes, they won the game and has even the series, it's now tied 1-1. Great game by Black, he was the player of the game and happy to see coach Norman is back. It's a team's effort, I hope they can still play that well in game 3 as SMB will certainly make an adjustment to lead the series. Good luck,

By the way, TN vs Magnolia, Magnolia is up 10 points after the first half.

39-29 is the core.

Very low scoring game between TNT and Mags, still hanging with 8 points leads in the last 3 more minutes of the third and Magnolia is really doing well in preventing Williams to explode, if they can keep him away from the basket the chance of winning the game is really possible for them, though there's still a lot of time for TNT to rally back and push some turnovers and snatch this game away from Mags.

Everybody's game is still for both competing teams, let's see who will stand up and win this game, good luck and hold your breath bettors!

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August 05, 2022, 11:24:09 AM
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Looks like Meralco really made the right adjustment, they were up by double digits early but now they are only up 3 points after the first half. What's important is they started strong, now, let's see if they will be able to carry that intensity in the 2nd half to even the series.
Yes, they won the game and has even the series, it's now tied 1-1. Great game by Black, he was the player of the game and happy to see coach Norman is back. It's a team's effort, I hope they can still play that well in game 3 as SMB will certainly make an adjustment to lead the series. Good luck,

By the way, TN vs Magnolia, Magnolia is up 10 points after the first half.

39-29 is the core.

Very low scoring game between TNT and Mags, still hanging with 8 points leads in the last 3 more minutes of the third and Magnolia is really doing well in preventing Williams to explode, if they can keep him away from the basket the chance of winning the game is really possible for them, though there's still a lot of time for TNT to rally back and push some turnovers and snatch this game away from Mags.

Everybody's game is still for both competing teams, let's see who will stand up and win this game, good luck and hold your breath bettors!

TNT not giving up, they are still coming back despite the effort of the Magnolia.  4th quarter will be the deciding quarter, hopefully Magnolia will still take the lead going to the 4th quarter and they will not collapse as TNT has slowly gaining the momentum.

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August 05, 2022, 11:36:34 AM
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Looks like Meralco really made the right adjustment, they were up by double digits early but now they are only up 3 points after the first half. What's important is they started strong, now, let's see if they will be able to carry that intensity in the 2nd half to even the series.
Yes, they won the game and has even the series, it's now tied 1-1. Great game by Black, he was the player of the game and happy to see coach Norman is back. It's a team's effort, I hope they can still play that well in game 3 as SMB will certainly make an adjustment to lead the series. Good luck,

By the way, TN vs Magnolia, Magnolia is up 10 points after the first half.

39-29 is the core.

Very low scoring game between TNT and Mags, still hanging with 8 points leads in the last 3 more minutes of the third and Magnolia is really doing well in preventing Williams to explode, if they can keep him away from the basket the chance of winning the game is really possible for them, though there's still a lot of time for TNT to rally back and push some turnovers and snatch this game away from Mags.

Everybody's game is still for both competing teams, let's see who will stand up and win this game, good luck and hold your breath bettors!

TNT not giving up, they are still coming back despite the effort of the Magnolia.  4th quarter will be the deciding quarter, hopefully Magnolia will still take the lead going to the 4th quarter and they will not collapse as TNT has slowly gaining the momentum.

Magnolia is up again by double-digit, 79-65, I think game 2 is for Magnolia.

If this series will be over, then maybe those who are interested in betting locally can continue now.
Barroca played well tonight with 19 points, good bounce back after struggle in game 1.

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