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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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January 28, 2023, 07:06:32 PM
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Even without Bollick, Northport was able to make the game a close one. Nlex was just able to pull away from Northport mid the fourth quarter. But in the quarters before, Northport was able to stay close to Nlex. I think Northport's import is good but easily distracted and loses focus with the physicality of the game.

With Bolick's way of playing where he always ball hog and owned the role of being the main scorer, it leads for his teammates to freely rotate the ball as Bolick is not there. It actually becomes a good reason that Bolick is currently not playing as other casts of the team are being fully utilized.

Bolick is known to always not try to become a shadow by their import. Instead of the play was designed on the import, Bolick will ruin it and instead, will do the job. It's actually good that Bolick is having a mindset like that where he don't want to rely on import but it seems to me that for him, it's a competition and not a team work.
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January 28, 2023, 11:47:25 PM
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If I'm Bollick, I might try my luck overseas and play in the B-league. I mean B-league already gave sign to him that they will get him if he will play there. More money, more experience, more challenging.

Agree with you, Bollick would make a lot of money compared to the amount he would receive even if he will get a max contract. The love of basketball and money should go together because even if you are too loyal in your team in the PBA, you will still be traded when you are less effective.

That's not new already, we've seen plenty of players who are already traded and eventually lose their career.

Robert Bolick is already aware of how big the difference is in terms of salary between playing locally and as an import overseas. However, it's not just the salary but the obligation and responsibility in order to maintain that big contract on foreign teams that are highly expected.

Once a local player considers playing outside the country, there's a low chance for that player to return to the PBA that's why it's not easy for long-time PBA players already to just accept the offer from other countries since there are lots of "what if" here.

What if got injured? What if not playing well? What if the expectations of the scout didn't meet? - might be some thoughts of those PBA players.

Well then, there's a rumor that Bolick is now in Taiwan but Pido Jarencio himself clarifies that it's not true. Who knows though?

2 days to go and Bolick's contract will expire and yet nothing hear from his side. Why it takes too long to decide? Hmmmm...

If he has the desire to go abroad and become an import, he should do it. He should not be hampered by the "what ifs" that you are saying because the same "what ifs" will haunt him if he stays. The pay is significantly higher, and he can earn in a few months what he earns in a year in PBA. That should put him in a good spot if he knows how to handle his finances.

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January 29, 2023, 05:13:21 AM
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Even without Bollick, Northport was able to make the game a close one. Nlex was just able to pull away from Northport mid the fourth quarter. But in the quarters before, Northport was able to stay close to Nlex. I think Northport's import is good but easily distracted and loses focus with the physicality of the game.

With Bolick's way of playing where he always ball hog and owned the role of being the main scorer, it leads for his teammates to freely rotate the ball as Bolick is not there. It actually becomes a good reason that Bolick is currently not playing as other casts of the team are being fully utilized.

Bolick is known to always not try to become a shadow by their import. Instead of the play was designed on the import, Bolick will ruin it and instead, will do the job. It's actually good that Bolick is having a mindset like that where he don't want to rely on import but it seems to me that for him, it's a competition and not a team work.

Not really too much of a ball hog, just look at the difference between him playing and not, and you can tell that there's a better chance of winning with him. Now that he is not playing anymore, I don't know of this team would ever win a game, I'm afraid they'll experience a cold streak like what the Blackwater and DYIP have experienced before.

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January 29, 2023, 06:09:06 AM
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January 29, 2023, 10:13:11 AM
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We have a very rare betting odds in the first game.

Converge 1.64 vs Magnolia 2.17.

I don't know what's the reason behind, but usually Magnolia is the favorites.
Are they playing without import? Anyone knows some information regarding this game?

We don't know the reason, probably because Converge has a good record so far. And as far as the game is concerned, Converge is still leading the game now. They lead double digit but Magnolia is not giving up though. Good to the bettors of Magnolia ML, they still have a chance to win.

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January 29, 2023, 10:57:40 AM
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We have a very rare betting odds in the first game.

Converge 1.64 vs Magnolia 2.17.

I don't know what's the reason behind, but usually Magnolia is the favorites.
Are they playing without import? Anyone knows some information regarding this game?

We don't know the reason, probably because Converge has a good record so far. And as far as the game is concerned, Converge is still leading the game now. They lead double digit but Magnolia is not giving up though. Good to the bettors of Magnolia ML, they still have a chance to win.
Probably because Converge is on the hotspot right now playing with 2-0 record while Magnolia, this is their first game so for sure many are hesitant to bet that much with Magnolia because they still don't know if their import will play better this time.  Converge is doing great, and if they continue doing that for sure they will be the favorite for the rest of their games. Magnolia should not intimidated though, they are the top team before and hopefully they can manage to reach that standing again.

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January 29, 2023, 11:02:25 AM
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We have a very rare betting odds in the first game.

Converge 1.64 vs Magnolia 2.17.

I don't know what's the reason behind, but usually Magnolia is the favorites.
Are they playing without import? Anyone knows some information regarding this game?

We don't know the reason, probably because Converge has a good record so far. And as far as the game is concerned, Converge is still leading the game now. They lead double digit but Magnolia is not giving up though. Good to the bettors of Magnolia ML, they still have a chance to win.
Probably because Converge is on the hotspot right now playing with 2-0 record while Magnolia, this is their first game so for sure many are hesitant to bet that much with Magnolia because they still don't know if their import will play better this time.  Converge is doing great, and if they continue doing that for sure they will be the favorite for the rest of their games. Magnolia should not intimidated though, they are the top team before and hopefully they can manage to reach that standing again.

Converge manage to win the game in a scary match. LOL>. They allowed Magnolia to have a big run, Mcree their import could win the game if that last shot sink in, that was too careless for the Converge, but you can't blame them, Magnolia is such a good team so they deserve to celebrate tonight for this big win.



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January 29, 2023, 11:14:36 AM
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We have a very rare betting odds in the first game.

Converge 1.64 vs Magnolia 2.17.

I don't know what's the reason behind, but usually Magnolia is the favorites.
Are they playing without import? Anyone knows some information regarding this game?

We don't know the reason, probably because Converge has a good record so far. And as far as the game is concerned, Converge is still leading the game now. They lead double digit but Magnolia is not giving up though. Good to the bettors of Magnolia ML, they still have a chance to win.
Probably because Converge is on the hotspot right now playing with 2-0 record while Magnolia, this is their first game so for sure many are hesitant to bet that much with Magnolia because they still don't know if their import will play better this time.  Converge is doing great, and if they continue doing that for sure they will be the favorite for the rest of their games. Magnolia should not intimidated though, they are the top team before and hopefully they can manage to reach that standing again.

Converge manage to win the game in a scary match. LOL>. They allowed Magnolia to have a big run, Mcree their import could win the game if that last shot sink in, that was too careless for the Converge, but you can't blame them, Magnolia is such a good team so they deserve to celebrate tonight for this big win.

The import has the freedom to take that last shot, but if I were the coach, I would have design another play, I mean, when the import takes the last shot, that's way predictable, they should have give that to Paul Lee as he has a high 3 point percentage, and he is also a clutch player as well.

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January 29, 2023, 11:27:08 AM
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We have a very rare betting odds in the first game.

Converge 1.64 vs Magnolia 2.17.

I don't know what's the reason behind, but usually Magnolia is the favorites.
Are they playing without import? Anyone knows some information regarding this game?

We don't know the reason, probably because Converge has a good record so far. And as far as the game is concerned, Converge is still leading the game now. They lead double digit but Magnolia is not giving up though. Good to the bettors of Magnolia ML, they still have a chance to win.

The line says the winner, and yes that's what happened because even if you don't look at the game, you will understand that everyone will be betting on Magnolia to win, come on, they are the better team and yet listed as underdog. I'm glad that I did not get tempted betting on them, if they have lost before this game, I might get tempted, but it's their first game and their import played very well.

Congratulations to to the takes of converge ML, you have a great night.

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January 29, 2023, 12:07:12 PM
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We have a very rare betting odds in the first game.

Converge 1.64 vs Magnolia 2.17.

I don't know what's the reason behind, but usually Magnolia is the favorites.
Are they playing without import? Anyone knows some information regarding this game?

We don't know the reason, probably because Converge has a good record so far. And as far as the game is concerned, Converge is still leading the game now. They lead double digit but Magnolia is not giving up though. Good to the bettors of Magnolia ML, they still have a chance to win.

The line says the winner, and yes that's what happened because even if you don't look at the game, you will understand that everyone will be betting on Magnolia to win, come on, they are the better team and yet listed as underdog. I'm glad that I did not get tempted betting on them, if they have lost before this game, I might get tempted, but it's their first game and their import played very well.

Congratulations to to the takes of converge ML, you have a great night.

Good point it's the first game, a first test for Magnolias chemistry while with Converge they already got 2 wins and they really move so well, it's just an interesting game since they are leading 6 points if I remember it right with a minute then Magnolia manage to make a good defense and almost snatch the game away from them.

Congrats mga kabayan who put their trust in Converge while for those who got tempted with a sweet odd for Magnolia, moving forward and look for a good pick for the next game to try to recover.

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January 29, 2023, 12:13:30 PM
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We have now the second game which i think a blow-out win by SMB as they lead by a big 29 points at the end of the first half.

No ML market so far in the bookies that i'm looking right now but the spread is 25 which i think is very high but i do think that SMB will cover this one as they are playing with high confidence at the moment.

Taking now SMB -25.5 @1,85, hoping SMB won't ruin my Sunday night hehe.
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January 29, 2023, 12:23:04 PM
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We have now the second game which i think a blow-out win by SMB as they lead by a big 29 points at the end of the first half.

No ML market so far in the bookies that i'm looking right now but the spread is 25 which i think is very high but i do think that SMB will cover this one as they are playing with high confidence at the moment.

Taking now SMB -25.5 @1,85, hoping SMB won't ruin my Sunday night hehe.

The game is not entertaining, I was thinking that Phoenix will try to play hard to win, but it's currently a one sided game, SMB fully dominated the Phoenix. I'm not taking the live bet but good luck to you, if I will be tempted would bet on the +25.5, but usually my instinct is wrong.  Grin

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January 29, 2023, 01:11:59 PM
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We have now the second game which i think a blow-out win by SMB as they lead by a big 29 points at the end of the first half.

No ML market so far in the bookies that i'm looking right now but the spread is 25 which i think is very high but i do think that SMB will cover this one as they are playing with high confidence at the moment.

Taking now SMB -25.5 @1,85, hoping SMB won't ruin my Sunday night hehe.

The game is not entertaining, I was thinking that Phoenix will try to play hard to win, but it's currently a one sided game, SMB fully dominated the Phoenix. I'm not taking the live bet but good luck to you, if I will be tempted would bet on the +25.5, but usually my instinct is wrong.  Grin

Under 3 minutes now and the lead has been cut to 17 points, Phoenix manage to make some good rally in the 3rd quarter and still trying to push and close the gap, if you take that instinct you might be closing your fingers now and hope that Phoenix will continue to try harder, the defense of SMB is not that tough and they are letting Phonix to make some run..

Still lots of things to happen here. Either Phoenix will manage to cover that handicap or SMB will push for the last rally and cover their handicap.

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January 29, 2023, 02:58:14 PM
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We have now the second game which i think a blow-out win by SMB as they lead by a big 29 points at the end of the first half.

No ML market so far in the bookies that i'm looking right now but the spread is 25 which i think is very high but i do think that SMB will cover this one as they are playing with high confidence at the moment.

Taking now SMB -25.5 @1,85, hoping SMB won't ruin my Sunday night hehe.
SMB won by 21 points against Phoenix. You lost your bet bud, but that's ok.

They took a huge lead at the first quarter and never looked back. When I saw that the lead of SMB is at 20+ already at the 2nd half, I immediately stopped watching it because I knew it that they will get the win. It's SMB after all Cheesy.

The first game was more entertaining than the 2nd game. It's a close fight between Converge and Magnolia, but in the end, Converge's record is still unscathed with 3-0 record while Magnolia lost on their debut match. Converge under Coach Ayo is pretty scary TBH and with how they played last season with him and this ongoing season, they are the team to watch out. Offense is spread across different player thus, they will be hard to stop offensively. Their import only scored 26 points, but 4 local players are in double digits and Ahamnisi managed to score 22 points off the bench.

The debut match of Magnolia's import McCree is pretty good as well as he got 38 points and 16 rebounds. I just don't like their last play where there is no ball movement whatsoever. They just gave it to their import and let him handle the last second shot which obviously missed. Well, better luck next time for him I guess.

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Converge manage to win the game in a scary match. LOL>. They allowed Magnolia to have a big run, Mcree their import could win the game if that last shot sink in, that was too careless for the Converge, but you can't blame them, Magnolia is such a good team so they deserve to celebrate tonight for this big win.

It was a break of the ball for magnolia getting a run late in the fourth quarter. It was careless for Converge to let Magnolia get to within a single position when they were leading 6 points in less than a minute left in the game. But kudos to Magnolia, they know how to stop converge and force turnovers. The last shot of the import of Magnolia was quite a forced shot so it would really be lucky for the team if that went in. Fortunately for Converge, the last shot did not sink in.

The import has the freedom to take that last shot, but if I were the coach, I would have design another play, I mean, when the import takes the last shot, that's way predictable, they should have give that to Paul Lee as he has a high 3 point percentage, and he is also a clutch player as well.

He could have passed the ball to Paul Lee under the basket to force an OT but I guess the import is the best player on the court, so it is his duty to take the shot.
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January 30, 2023, 10:18:34 AM
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We have now the second game which i think a blow-out win by SMB as they lead by a big 29 points at the end of the first half.

No ML market so far in the bookies that i'm looking right now but the spread is 25 which i think is very high but i do think that SMB will cover this one as they are playing with high confidence at the moment.

Taking now SMB -25.5 @1,85, hoping SMB won't ruin my Sunday night hehe.
SMB won by 21 points against Phoenix. You lost your bet bud, but that's ok.

They took a huge lead at the first quarter and never looked back. When I saw that the lead of SMB is at 20+ already at the 2nd half, I immediately stopped watching it because I knew it that they will get the win. It's SMB after all Cheesy.

The first game was more entertaining than the 2nd game. It's a close fight between Converge and Magnolia, but in the end, Converge's record is still unscathed with 3-0 record while Magnolia lost on their debut match. Converge under Coach Ayo is pretty scary TBH and with how they played last season with him and this ongoing season, they are the team to watch out. Offense is spread across different player thus, they will be hard to stop offensively. Their import only scored 26 points, but 4 local players are in double digits and Ahamnisi managed to score 22 points off the bench.

The debut match of Magnolia's import McCree is pretty good as well as he got 38 points and 16 rebounds. I just don't like their last play where there is no ball movement whatsoever. They just gave it to their import and let him handle the last second shot which obviously missed. Well, better luck next time for him I guess.

You said it right the first game is far enjoyable to watch compared with a one-sided matchup between SMB and Phoenix, that huge firs half lead gave SMB the luxury though they relax a lot in 3rd quarter but they maintain the 2-digit lead and finish the game with that huge margins.

In terms of Converged, they almost lose that game, just so happened that Mags import missed that shot and let Converged to survive and take their win, Congrats to everyone who takes both bookies favorite.

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January 30, 2023, 11:31:08 AM
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In terms of Converged, they almost lose that game, just so happened that Mags import missed that shot and let Converged to survive and take their win, Congrats to everyone who takes both bookies favorite.

The last shot was well defended, although the import had the height advantage he was a bit bothered taking that last shot. IMO, it's not a high percentage shot, they could just go for an OT by driving the ball, who knows, if it hits they might also get a foul, so that could result to a win if they will hit the free throw.



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January 30, 2023, 12:09:35 PM
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The import has the freedom to take that last shot, but if I were the coach, I would have design another play, I mean, when the import takes the last shot, that's way predictable, they should have give that to Paul Lee as he has a high 3 point percentage, and he is also a clutch player as well.

He could have passed the ball to Paul Lee under the basket to force an OT but I guess the import is the best player on the court, so it is his duty to take the shot.

Not because he is the best player, he should be the one taking the last shot. It should still be the play that will be followed, if it was not a game plan, then for sure that does not help them and if the import does not follow the game plan, even how good he is, he will be a problem in the long run. IMO, despite seeing lots of great import lately, I still believe that Brownlee will win the Best Import Award again.

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January 30, 2023, 12:21:36 PM
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In terms of Converged, they almost lose that game, just so happened that Mags import missed that shot and let Converged to survive and take their win, Congrats to everyone who takes both bookies favorite.

The last shot was well defended, although the import had the height advantage he was a bit bothered taking that last shot. IMO, it's not a high percentage shot, they could just go for an OT by driving the ball, who knows, if it hits they might also get a foul, so that could result to a win if they will hit the free throw.
Game decision is very crucial and with this, the whole team of Magnolia failed simply because Converge are doing great with their defense, they should not blame their import though because they need to have a better plays. Well, this is just their first game and I'm sure they can still adjust. Good for converge to be on a lead early this conference, let's see if they can sustain that because I'm started to rooting with them.
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January 30, 2023, 12:28:33 PM
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In terms of Converged, they almost lose that game, just so happened that Mags import missed that shot and let Converged to survive and take their win, Congrats to everyone who takes both bookies favorite.

The last shot was well defended, although the import had the height advantage he was a bit bothered taking that last shot. IMO, it's not a high percentage shot, they could just go for an OT by driving the ball, who knows, if it hits they might also get a foul, so that could result to a win if they will hit the free throw.
Game decision is very crucial and with this, the whole team of Magnolia failed simply because Converge are doing great with their defense, they should not blame their import though because they need to have a better plays. Well, this is just their first game and I'm sure they can still adjust. Good for converge to be on a lead early this conference, let's see if they can sustain that because I'm started to rooting with them.
Yes, they need to be consistent, beating the Magnolia Hotshots is a great statement that they are a strong team this conference. Their defense is really great because Magnolia is also a good defensive team. I'm pretty sure Magnolia will bounce back in their next game, so I'll be waiting for the betting odds for that and will automatically put my bet on them.

Their next game will be this Feb 3 against TNT, we should see a great betting odds for Magnolia.

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