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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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October 28, 2022, 02:28:15 PM
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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.
Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

That's because of their import, Miller is probably the best import IMO, and that's making their locals to be confident as well. Being the number 3 in the standing and had won 3 consecutive games already, I think their chances in the playoffs is quite legit. This is the type of import that could carry a team.
Exactly mate you are right miller can do more plays to boost his teammates and this is the example of the best import in PBA which is he can carry his team also. And when miller is in the court as we all know and see that the local players are also hyper and active which is pretty good in offence and defense also their accuracy in shooting while doing a play I think they reach the max level that can beat tough team's in PBA.

The import of TNT also had a huge production, he scored 41 points and grab 11 rebounds but I think that does not help the team because we know that TNT is a team that loves to contribute their offense, if their import are carrying majority of the load, then most probably others will not be able to play their usual game.

I think it's better if the locals of TNT will also get more touches on the ball, I mean good ball movement would make the team better.

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October 28, 2022, 03:22:23 PM
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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.
Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

That's because of their import, Miller is probably the best import IMO, and that's making their locals to be confident as well. Being the number 3 in the standing and had won 3 consecutive games already, I think their chances in the playoffs is quite legit. This is the type of import that could carry a team.
Exactly mate you are right miller can do more plays to boost his teammates and this is the example of the best import in PBA which is he can carry his team also. And when miller is in the court as we all know and see that the local players are also hyper and active which is pretty good in offence and defense also their accuracy in shooting while doing a play I think they reach the max level that can beat tough team's in PBA.

The import of TNT also had a huge production, he scored 41 points and grab 11 rebounds but I think that does not help the team because we know that TNT is a team that loves to contribute their offense, if their import are carrying majority of the load, then most probably others will not be able to play their usual game.

I think it's better if the locals of TNT will also get more touches on the ball, I mean good ball movement would make the team better.

I agree to that, TNT's locals are also good offensively if the import will carry all the loads, the productions of their locals will surely affected, I just noticed earlier that's Teng even with that bad form of shooting really heat up and help their import to lead this game, I was in the impression that TNT will manage to rally back after they cut that big lead in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter.

But it was Teng who really step up and earn the best player of the game, it was a good try for TNT but it didn't earn them the win.

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October 28, 2022, 10:25:50 PM
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I'm quite surprised that Meralco didn't do well at this conference, they are now dwelling at the bottom of the standings which i think not the place for them if they have a quality import.

They will have a game today against SMB Beermen which i think a must win situation for them if they want to secure a slot in the playoffs in the coming weeks but parading a new import could also pose a problem for them as their new import who just arrived Friday need to jell well to have a good chemistry with the team.

Bolts ML @2.10 vs SMB Beermen, i think the Bolts could pull an upset here if the import will play well against an inconsistent Beermen. Risky bet for me but I don't trust the Beermen without Fajardo manning the middle.
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October 28, 2022, 11:55:29 PM
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Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

Might be an ordinary day for you to see an upset but that's not the point there, mate.

You have to give credits that Converge was able to put a big lead of as much as 30 points and that was the impressive part of that game as we are talking about competing against TNT here which is known for being deadly in the eliminations whatever the conference is.

Converge is really a promising team since they entered the league. I hope someday they will be seen in Semis or Finals.

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October 29, 2022, 01:55:50 AM
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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.
Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

That's because of their import, Miller is probably the best import IMO, and that's making their locals to be confident as well. Being the number 3 in the standing and had won 3 consecutive games already, I think their chances in the playoffs is quite legit. This is the type of import that could carry a team.
Exactly mate you are right miller can do more plays to boost his teammates and this is the example of the best import in PBA which is he can carry his team also. And when miller is in the court as we all know and see that the local players are also hyper and active which is pretty good in offence and defense also their accuracy in shooting while doing a play I think they reach the max level that can beat tough team's in PBA.

The import of TNT also had a huge production, he scored 41 points and grab 11 rebounds but I think that does not help the team because we know that TNT is a team that loves to contribute their offense, if their import are carrying the majority of the load, then most probably others will not be able to play their usual game.

I think it's better if the locals of TNT will also get more touches on the ball, I mean good ball movement would make the team better.

I agree with that, TNT's locals are also good offensively if the import will carry all the loads, the production of their locals will surely affected, I just noticed earlier that's Teng even with that bad form of shooting heats up and help their import to lead this game, I was in the impression that TNT will manage to rally back after they cut that big lead in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter.

But it was Teng who step up and earn the best player of the game, it was a good try for TNT but it didn't earn them the win.

Tnt locals have good teamwork and pass the ball which is it's a big help for the team when the ball movement is in there and not the only one who handles the ball. In short, TNT nowadays doesn't have chemistry with their import and as we all know that 1 player can not carry his team alone if he is not passing to another player, also we all know how locals players play they are accurate in shooting outside and inside and this is conference they need more chemistry and know each other ability.

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October 29, 2022, 09:07:30 AM
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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.
Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.
When I saw the lead at the 2nd quarter, I was shocked as well, but upset happens.

TBH, I didn't expect Converge to play like this on their 2nd season in the league. Seems like changing their coach was a good one. Also, their import is playing very well and also include how many minutes he is playing. He is averaging a double-double and he is playing at around 40-43 minutes on average and that's shows that his stamina is high.

They are at the top 3 right now, but the question is they can maintain it. Their next games are still hard because 3 of the 6 are the top 8 teams currently while the other 3 is against the bottom teams. I just saw Blackwater last Philippine Cup coming from around top 4 standing and ended up at the top 8 so there might be a chance that they might fall if they will not play well in their next games. Let's see, but it's good to see independent teams fighting against the 2 giant companies of MVP and SMC.

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October 29, 2022, 10:04:47 AM
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Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

Might be an ordinary day for you to see an upset but that's not the point there, mate.

You have to give credits that Converge was able to put a big lead of as much as 30 points and that was the impressive part of that game as we are talking about competing against TNT here which is known for being deadly in the eliminations whatever the conference is.

Converge is really a promising team since they entered the league. I hope someday they will be seen in Semis or Finals.

Many fans would possibly be surprised if Converge could ever make it to Semis or even in finals since this league has been much well dominated if not by MVP group or SMB. We need to see new teams to reach that far because the excitement is not so good if we can see those sister teams battling together since we can get scripted win or lose match up on the series. For sure fans want to see some good changes on the league and maybe they can start with replacing the commissioner.

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October 29, 2022, 02:11:34 PM
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I thought there's a game tonight because it's Saturday, but when I see the schedule I'm surprised that the game is only tomorrow.

We have converge vs  Bossing and TNT vs Phoenix in the 2nd game.
I like the 2nd game, the streaking Phoenix vs a good team like the TNT, what team will win here?



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Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

Might be an ordinary day for you to see an upset but that's not the point there, mate.

You have to give credits that Converge was able to put a big lead of as much as 30 points and that was the impressive part of that game as we are talking about competing against TNT here which is known for being deadly in the eliminations whatever the conference is.

Converge is really a promising team since they entered the league. I hope someday they will be seen in Semis or Finals.

Many fans would possibly be surprised if Converge could ever make it to Semis or even in finals since this league has been much well dominated if not by MVP group or SMB. We need to see new teams to reach that far because the excitement is not so good if we can see those sister teams battling together since we can get scripted win or lose match up on the series. For sure fans want to see some good changes on the league and maybe they can start with replacing the commissioner.

I'm just imagining what if Converge and Bay Area will play for the finals, a first time we will not see either SMC and MVP battling for the title, it's been a quite a while that both franchise dominated the league, they are just exchanging teams but the end point the trophy will be displaced Either in Manny P.'s board room or inside Ramon Ang board room.

If ever Converge surprise us, it will be a good timing for PBA to gain additional interest, though for sure if business wise, PBA will
still rely on the never say die team, it will bring huge numbers of fans and a sure bag of ticket sales.

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Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

Might be an ordinary day for you to see an upset but that's not the point there, mate.

You have to give credits that Converge was able to put a big lead of as much as 30 points and that was the impressive part of that game as we are talking about competing against TNT here which is known for being deadly in the eliminations whatever the conference is.

Converge is really a promising team since they entered the league. I hope someday they will be seen in Semis or Finals.

Many fans would possibly be surprised if Converge could ever make it to Semis or even in finals since this league has been much well dominated if not by MVP group or SMB. We need to see new teams to reach that far because the excitement is not so good if we can see those sister teams battling together since we can get scripted win or lose match up on the series. For sure fans want to see some good changes on the league and maybe they can start with replacing the commissioner.

I'm just imagining what if Converge and Bay Area will play for the finals, a first time we will not see either SMC and MVP battling for the title, it's been a quite a while that both franchise dominated the league, they are just exchanging teams but the end point the trophy will be displaced Either in Manny P.'s board room or inside Ramon Ang board room.

If ever Converge surprise us, it will be a good timing for PBA to gain additional interest, though for sure if business wise, PBA will
still rely on the never say die team, it will bring huge numbers of fans and a sure bag of ticket sales.

Even before I'm vocal that someday, we might see a non MVP or SMC teams that will play on the PBA Finals.

But we have to remember that even those top teams in the PBA experienced an upset in the elimination round, their gameplay always improved during the playoffs and that's because of their experience.

I want to see Converge on the Finals but that's really a tough job to do. 

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I'm just imagining what if Converge and Bay Area will play for the finals, a first time we will not see either SMC and MVP battling for the title, it's been a quite a while that both franchise dominated the league, they are just exchanging teams but the end point the trophy will be displaced Either in Manny P.'s board room or inside Ramon Ang board room.

If ever Converge surprise us, it will be a good timing for PBA to gain additional interest, though for sure if business wise, PBA will
still rely on the never say die team, it will bring huge numbers of fans and a sure bag of ticket sales.

I am sure if Converge and Bay Area Dragons will be on the finals, the viewership will take a big hit. These teams do not have loyal followers like Ginebra or big fans like San Miguel, TNT, or Magnolia. PBA fans are already dwindling and if these two teams are going to the finals, we will see lesser viewers.

PBA became stale because we always see the same team from two companies getting in the finals, but they do draw crowds. Maybe it could be better if one team were from an independent team and another from either SMC or MVP teams. Just to stir things up. Maybe this year we will see this with Bay Area Dragons proving to be a strong guest team. Maybe dragons vs one of the team from MVP or SMC.
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The first game is over, converge winning streak is still alive.

It was a low-scoring game but an entertaining game to watch, Bossing is just a competitive team now, not the same with DYIP who just keep losing with huge margins. As usual, Q Miller still carries the team for another win, hope he will continue to play the best basketball.

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The first game is over, converge winning streak is still alive.

It was a low-scoring game but an entertaining game to watch, Bossing is just a competitive team now, not the same with DYIP who just keep losing with huge margins. As usual, Q Miller still carries the team for another win, hope he will continue to play the best basketball.

What was the point spread prior to the game? I miss this game because I did not bet on a game that I cannot see it live, I'm just watching the TNT vs Phoenix now, and so far Phoenix are leading the game but it's nice to take the ML live if you are watching because this TNT team will surely come back.

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The first game is over, converge winning streak is still alive.

It was a low-scoring game but an entertaining game to watch, Bossing is just a competitive team now, not the same with DYIP who just keep losing with huge margins. As usual, Q Miller still carries the team for another win, hope he will continue to play the best basketball.

What was the point spread prior to the game? I miss this game because I did not bet on a game that I cannot see it live, I'm just watching the TNT vs Phoenix now, and so far Phoenix are leading the game but it's nice to take the ML live if you are watching because this TNT team will surely come back.

I was able to bet for the TNT ML @2.05 when the Katropa was down by nine points after the first half and i think it was a good bet since TNT is now leading by three point with less than three minutes to go in the game, hope the Katropa will pull away in this quarter.



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lose my bet here as TNT failed to score after they were up by 3 points. Nice win by Phoenix but Mikey Williams was not playing on this game as he was suspended for one week if i'm not mistake for not showing up in practice.
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October 30, 2022, 04:08:44 PM
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The first game is over, converge winning streak is still alive.

It was a low-scoring game but an entertaining game to watch, Bossing is just a competitive team now, not the same with DYIP who just keep losing with huge margins. As usual, Q Miller still carries the team for another win, hope he will continue to play the best basketball.

What was the point spread prior to the game? I miss this game because I did not bet on a game that I cannot see it live, I'm just watching the TNT vs Phoenix now, and so far Phoenix are leading the game but it's nice to take the ML live if you are watching because this TNT team will surely come back.

I was able to bet for the TNT ML @2.05 when the Katropa was down by nine points after the first half and i think it was a good bet since TNT is now leading by three point with less than three minutes to go in the game, hope the Katropa will pull away in this quarter.



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lose my bet here as TNT failed to score after they were up by 3 points. Nice win by Phoenix but Mikey Williams was not playing on this game as he was suspended for one week if i'm not mistake for not showing up in practice.

It's surprising, a back-to-back loss for TNT and like what you said they are already in the game in that last quarter run just can't finish the game with the win, I don't have any idea with William's suspension since I don't read news just watching the live game before betting as observing the actual game can give much better idea if the team is playing well.

A good win for the fuel master, adding another one for the team and bringing them to a positive spot from this single round elimination.

PBA got a long break better rest for the player to address personal things. Game resume will be on Friday base from PBA website.

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October 30, 2022, 11:54:49 PM
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Converge is now on their 4th game winning streak.

I really want to follow this team and where they should end up this elimination.

I hope that after securing at least a good spot in the playoffs, they can take advantage of that and reached their first-ever semis or Finals appearance.
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It's been reported that Mikey Williams faces consequences for being arrogant and not doing his obligation on the team. A 1 week's suspension is being handed instead of a money fine. Jojo Lastimosa said in the interview that Williams is always AWOL at their practice without notifying the team and also pointed out that he is being paid big so in return, be responsible for the team.

I don't know what happening to Mikey Williams but he has that attitude even before since he's a "star".

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October 31, 2022, 05:14:14 AM
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Converge is now on their 4th game winning streak.

I really want to follow this team and where they should end up this elimination.

I hope that after securing at least a good spot in the playoffs, they can take advantage of that and reached their first-ever semis or Finals appearance.
Not expecting too much from independent teams TBH, and I don't expect them to be at the Semis. That's how low the competitiveness of the league is.

We might see Converge at the top 4 if they will play like this consistently but in the playoffs, they will just get defeated if they will face either a strong SMC or MVP team which is at the bottom. I still remember the time when Phoenix was at the top spot of the conference, but they just got destroyed by SMB. Can't remember if the Phoenix are the top 1 or top 2 but at least they lost to the lower seed SMB at that time. I'm not saying that it might happen to Converge as well, but that's how I look with independent teams right now.

It's been reported that Mikey Williams faces consequences for being arrogant and not doing his obligation on the team. A 1 week's suspension is being handed instead of a money fine. Jojo Lastimosa said in the interview that Williams is always AWOL at their practice without notifying the team and also pointed out that he is being paid big so in return, be responsible for the team.

I don't know what happening to Mikey Williams but he has that attitude even before since he's a "star".
Terrence Romeo, Jericho Cruz and Ray Parks Jr.
These are the players that also played in the TNT but for some reasons, have a problem with the team thus, they got traded and now playing better with their new teams. TR7 and Cruz are now at SMB and playing very well while Ray Parks is at B-league which doesn't have any problem at all.

Now Williams who is being paid way higher than the max salary of any PBA player is having the same issues as well. He is being unprofessional for some reasons, and he is very confident to the point where he isn't showing to a practice and will practice whenever he wanted too. He signed a 3-year contract with the team, but a few months after the signing, he is going AWOL for no reason. I hope the management will do something about his attitude problems.

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October 31, 2022, 07:47:14 AM
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Terrence Romeo, Jericho Cruz and Ray Parks Jr.
These are the players that also played in the TNT but for some reasons, have a problem with the team thus, they got traded and now playing better with their new teams. TR7 and Cruz are now at SMB and playing very well while Ray Parks is at B-league which doesn't have any problem at all.
So probably there's a problem with the management of TNT because good players like them did not stay, unlike with the SMB where we will really see lots of good players stay in the team and they are happy with their stay.

Now Williams who is being paid way higher than the max salary of any PBA player is having the same issues as well. He is being unprofessional for some reasons, and he is very confident to the point where he isn't showing to a practice and will practice whenever he wanted too. He signed a 3-year contract with the team, but a few months after the signing, he is going AWOL for no reason. I hope the management will do something about his attitude problems.

He think that he is the best play in the team but actually he is not, if I would rank the best players in a team, number 1 for me would Castron, 2nd would be Pogoy and he ranks 3rd in my list. This player only had one good season with the team when they won the championship but the following seasons he was already expose especially in the playoffs.



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October 31, 2022, 12:20:02 PM
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Converge is now on their 4th game winning streak.

I really want to follow this team and where they should end up this elimination.

I hope that after securing at least a good spot in the playoffs, they can take advantage of that and reached their first-ever semis or Finals appearance.

The old alaska spirit still flowing in their bloods hahaha, but kidding aside, yes, I'm also seeing the good improvement of this team
If ever they will manage to take a slot to semis, it will be a good and impressive start for coach Ayo. I admire this coach very young but
full of IQ in reading players' capabilities.

We are not sure if how far they can reach but seeing converge competing so well and winning games the way it wasn't expected,

On that note, Converge is bringing good competition as an individual franchise.

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