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March 06, 2024, 11:51:03 AM
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Tomorrow, another familiar teams will be facing.

In the first game, it's Bossing vs Converge, and the second game is Bolts vs NLEX. This is looking like teams have been shortened in numbers. I hope these times are not yet tired for playing a lot while other teams are still resting. Since we've seen them play in the past few days, then I think it would be easier to select the winner, or the trend will continue, which is one team is down big time in the first half, but they will have a big run in the 2nd half to win the game.

The first game has been concluded and Northport beat Converge. Now the 2nd game has just started, NLEX vs Bolts, I think i'm going for NLEX here as I like them not a lot of hesitation, if they are shooting well especially from the outside, this should be an easy win for them. I'm wondering why they are heavily underdog, currently at +5.5, but it doesn't matter I'm still gonna take the moneyline.

I think that's a typo error but yes Converge losses another game, while Bossing have their 3rd straight win, a very balance scoring for the top seeded squad, I like how coach Jeff manage to balance the rotation and with how good they are executing the system seems that we might see them continuing this streak, hoping that it's not just to hype up this team but a real competitor for this season, though we haven't seen any SMC group to play for this season and knowing how they composed their squad will be a big challenge for the Bossing.

If they can win from one of those 3 super team maybe we can say now that this rebuilding really helps them to be a competitive squad, hopefully they will continue and will bring that kind of competition for the fans to start gaining curiosity if why they are getting this good outcome.

Bias to say but I'm also start watching clips as I'm one of those solid fan of James Yap, I know he still got something though not that same level but giving him enough time and exposure he can still bring that deligthment to his fans.

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March 06, 2024, 02:13:54 PM
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Tomorrow, another familiar teams will be facing.

In the first game, it's Bossing vs Converge, and the second game is Bolts vs NLEX. This is looking like teams have been shortened in numbers. I hope these times are not yet tired for playing a lot while other teams are still resting. Since we've seen them play in the past few days, then I think it would be easier to select the winner, or the trend will continue, which is one team is down big time in the first half, but they will have a big run in the 2nd half to win the game.

The first game has been concluded and Northport beat Converge. Now the 2nd game has just started, NLEX vs Bolts, I think i'm going for NLEX here as I like them not a lot of hesitation, if they are shooting well especially from the outside, this should be an easy win for them. I'm wondering why they are heavily underdog, currently at +5.5, but it doesn't matter I'm still gonna take the moneyline.

Very accurate pick because NLEX won by 3 points. Bollick again is their best player contributing 26 points and lead the team in the 4th quarter big run. This team is quite exciting to watch, they also play some good defense as they were able to limit the Bolts to below 100 points. On the other team, Newsome had 22 points, but he miss the last shot to bring the game to OT. Congratulations again mate.

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March 06, 2024, 02:53:03 PM
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Tomorrow, another familiar teams will be facing.

In the first game, it's Bossing vs Converge, and the second game is Bolts vs NLEX. This is looking like teams have been shortened in numbers. I hope these times are not yet tired for playing a lot while other teams are still resting. Since we've seen them play in the past few days, then I think it would be easier to select the winner, or the trend will continue, which is one team is down big time in the first half, but they will have a big run in the 2nd half to win the game.

The first game has been concluded and Northport beat Converge. Now the 2nd game has just started, NLEX vs Bolts, I think i'm going for NLEX here as I like them not a lot of hesitation, if they are shooting well especially from the outside, this should be an easy win for them. I'm wondering why they are heavily underdog, currently at +5.5, but it doesn't matter I'm still gonna take the moneyline.

Very accurate pick because NLEX won by 3 points. Bollick again is their best player contributing 26 points and lead the team in the 4th quarter big run. This team is quite exciting to watch, they also play some good defense as they were able to limit the Bolts to below 100 points. On the other team, Newsome had 22 points, but he miss the last shot to bring the game to OT. Congratulations again mate.

They key is bet on the underdog as they have been winning recently. Meralco have lost 2 times already against an underdog team, so you can't trust them anymore if you are expecting a consistency. The last 2 games it was Maliksi who was their top scorer, now it was Newsome but made a lot of mistakes down the stretch especially in the 4th quarter.

Since Luigi Trillo stepped in as the coach of this team, they are not the same anymore. I think Norman Black was really the right man to coach this team.

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March 07, 2024, 04:53:40 AM
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Tomorrow, another familiar teams will be facing.

In the first game, it's Bossing vs Converge, and the second game is Bolts vs NLEX. This is looking like teams have been shortened in numbers. I hope these times are not yet tired for playing a lot while other teams are still resting. Since we've seen them play in the past few days, then I think it would be easier to select the winner, or the trend will continue, which is one team is down big time in the first half, but they will have a big run in the 2nd half to win the game.

The first game has been concluded and Northport beat Converge. Now the 2nd game has just started, NLEX vs Bolts, I think i'm going for NLEX here as I like them not a lot of hesitation, if they are shooting well especially from the outside, this should be an easy win for them. I'm wondering why they are heavily underdog, currently at +5.5, but it doesn't matter I'm still gonna take the moneyline.

Very accurate pick because NLEX won by 3 points. Bollick again is their best player contributing 26 points and lead the team in the 4th quarter big run. This team is quite exciting to watch, they also play some good defense as they were able to limit the Bolts to below 100 points. On the other team, Newsome had 22 points, but he miss the last shot to bring the game to OT. Congratulations again mate.

They key is bet on the underdog as they have been winning recently. Meralco have lost 2 times already against an underdog team, so you can't trust them anymore if you are expecting a consistency. The last 2 games it was Maliksi who was their top scorer, now it was Newsome but made a lot of mistakes down the stretch especially in the 4th quarter.
That's why there's a rumo that Newsome will be traded... can they consider maybe changing their coach?
I mean, Newsome has been playing well during the time of Norman block, he might not be an explosive player in the offense but his defense makes this team still a dangerous team. Still remember when they reach in the Finals? That was when Durham was their import.. So with good import, and a good coach, there's no reason this team will be in the championship competition again.


Since Luigi Trillo stepped in as the coach of this team, they are not the same anymore. I think Norman Black was really the right man to coach this team.

According to the report, Normam Black has already become a consultant, so he still have say with the new coach. Probably he is still under evaluation and if Meralco will continue to struggle, we might know the consequences on that.

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March 07, 2024, 11:14:08 AM
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So with good import, and a good coach, there's no reason this team will be in the championship competition again.

Let's say, given that they have good import, a good coach, and good key players, let's face it, Meralco is generally lacking solid manpower. Their starters are the only foundation of the team and they are not even consistent. Their bench is full of literally seat warmers and a clapping squad.

Even Tim Cone, Steve Kerr, or the legendary Phil Jackson will handle Meralco, without enough manpower capable of filling the position that a coach wants in his strategy, nothing will happen. Meralco will just stay where they are as the priority is their sister company, TNT Katropa. They are just ahead of a bit over a considered farm team.

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March 07, 2024, 11:47:55 AM
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So with good import, and a good coach, there's no reason this team will be in the championship competition again.

Let's say, given that they have good import, a good coach, and good key players, let's face it, Meralco is generally lacking solid manpower. Their starters are the only foundation of the team and they are not even consistent. Their bench is full of literally seat warmers and a clapping squad.

Even Tim Cone, Steve Kerr, or the legendary Phil Jackson will handle Meralco, without enough manpower capable of filling the position that a coach wants in his strategy, nothing will happen. Meralco will just stay where they are as the priority is their sister company, TNT Katropa. They are just ahead of a bit over a considered farm team.

It's sad to hear about that farm team to be in the discussion again. I think Meralco should not be considered as a farm team as that would only mean TNT is only the legit team. Not good, if there is a farm team for TNT or Meralco, that should be coming from a team that never into the championship, like Blackwater or DYIP. It cannot be denied that they don't have the talented players like the other teams, AFAIK, only Newsome is included in the Gilas pool and he was just new to the national team. But the fact that they reach the finals before, that would still prove that it's on the coach, and now that they have a different coach, so the result is different as well.

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March 08, 2024, 01:42:39 AM
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So with good import, and a good coach, there's no reason this team will be in the championship competition again.

Let's say, given that they have good import, a good coach, and good key players, let's face it, Meralco is generally lacking solid manpower. Their starters are the only foundation of the team and they are not even consistent. Their bench is full of literally seat warmers and a clapping squad.

Even Tim Cone, Steve Kerr, or the legendary Phil Jackson will handle Meralco, without enough manpower capable of filling the position that a coach wants in his strategy, nothing will happen. Meralco will just stay where they are as the priority is their sister company, TNT Katropa. They are just ahead of a bit over a considered farm team.

It's sad to hear about that farm team to be in the discussion again. I think Meralco should not be considered as a farm team as that would only mean TNT is only the legit team. Not good, if there is a farm team for TNT or Meralco, that should be coming from a team that never into the championship, like Blackwater or DYIP. It cannot be denied that they don't have the talented players like the other teams, AFAIK, only Newsome is included in the Gilas pool and he was just new to the national team. But the fact that they reach the finals before, that would still prove that it's on the coach, and now that they have a different coach, so the result is different as well.

You can't blame people talking about the farm team as it has been rampant in the PBA and it's already a well known rumor. We just have to accept that these farm teams are only their to play but not to compete at a high level, why? because they can't since their players are below average compared to the other legitimate teams. It's so disappointing but that has been how the PBA has been working so far, they are contented with it, and they are not making a changes despite the dislike of the fans.

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March 08, 2024, 02:47:45 AM
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Finally we will be seeing strong teams playing today, they are back after a long rest.

We have these double header, First game Northport vs Phoenix, and 2nd game is Rain or Shine vs Ginebra.
I haven't check the spread yet but I'm incline to bet on the well rested team, forget about the rust got Ginebra and Phoenix, will be taking a parlay on the moneyline.

Hope to see a blowout win for Ginebra as I'm considering the spread as well.

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So with good import, and a good coach, there's no reason this team will be in the championship competition again.

Let's say, given that they have good import, a good coach, and good key players, let's face it, Meralco is generally lacking solid manpower. Their starters are the only foundation of the team and they are not even consistent. Their bench is full of literally seat warmers and a clapping squad.

Even Tim Cone, Steve Kerr, or the legendary Phil Jackson will handle Meralco, without enough manpower capable of filling the position that a coach wants in his strategy, nothing will happen. Meralco will just stay where they are as the priority is their sister company, TNT Katropa. They are just ahead of a bit over a considered farm team.

It's sad to hear about that farm team to be in the discussion again. I think Meralco should not be considered as a farm team as that would only mean TNT is only the legit team. Not good, if there is a farm team for TNT or Meralco, that should be coming from a team that never into the championship, like Blackwater or DYIP. It cannot be denied that they don't have the talented players like the other teams, AFAIK, only Newsome is included in the Gilas pool and he was just new to the national team. But the fact that they reach the finals before, that would still prove that it's on the coach, and now that they have a different coach, so the result is different as well.

You can't blame people talking about the farm team as it has been rampant in the PBA and it's already a well known rumor. We just have to accept that these farm teams are only their to play but not to compete at a high level, why? because they can't since their players are below average compared to the other legitimate teams. It's so disappointing but that has been how the PBA has been working so far, they are contented with it, and they are not making a changes despite the dislike of the fans.

I understand but it's just disappointing that they have no plan on improving the league when other leagues are trying to make theirs better.  This is the result of politics within the league that the people who are running it are under the influence of the giant team owners. We can't deny the fact that SMB and TNT owners are the people behind or in control of the PBA, because without them, this league won't be able to get a good venue and pay the players with a decent salary. It's just that we are not moving at the right direction, and that's the reason why the number of teams are still limited until now.

Finally we will be seeing strong teams playing today, they are back after a long rest.

We have these double header, First game Northport vs Phoenix, and 2nd game is Rain or Shine vs Ginebra.
I haven't check the spread yet but I'm incline to bet on the well rested team, forget about the rust got Ginebra and Phoenix, will be taking a parlay on the moneyline.

Hope to see a blowout win for Ginebra as I'm considering the spread as well.

They are back with vengeance and will try to correct their mistake last season, they exit early and now they are trying to be back in the Finals again. With the same line up, I hope they'll be able to create the fight bond already especially Ahamnissi who sometimes is out of sync based on my observation.

I'll support you with your prediction on Ginebra winning by blowout, as first game is very imporatant, they should make a strong statement.

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... will be taking a parlay on the moneyline.
Unfortunately Phoenix fall short int he last quarter. You can see the rust in the game since they are outscored in the first quarter, slowly they made an adjustment until the 4th quarter but still fall by 4 points. Parlay is dead, you need to come back in the 2nd game, double or nothing? Smiley

I think It will be Ginebra winning the 2nd game, they are -5.5 now, hopefully they'll dominate for an easy win. I might just wait for the live betting here, it's hard to trust nowadays, you know it's PBA, nothing is impossible, even bad teams could look good.

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March 08, 2024, 03:08:42 PM
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... will be taking a parlay on the moneyline.
Unfortunately Phoenix fall short int he last quarter. You can see the rust in the game since they are outscored in the first quarter, slowly they made an adjustment until the 4th quarter but still fall by 4 points. Parlay is dead, you need to come back in the 2nd game, double or nothing? Smiley
That's the game for parlay, you missed one you lose the bet. But the good thing is you don't need to bet big to win big, but the risk is high and the chances are low. You need to be lucky to win, and for me, I'm not doing parlay on a regular basis, I'm more focus on one bet with the spread, just like how serious gamblers are doing.

I think It will be Ginebra winning the 2nd game, they are -5.5 now, hopefully they'll dominate for an easy win. I might just wait for the live betting here, it's hard to trust nowadays, you know it's PBA, nothing is impossible, even bad teams could look good.
Ginebra wins the game but they just did enough to cover the spread since they won by 6 points. I hope bettors does not experiment by incresing spread for better payout as -6.5 means a losing bet.

Malonzo the contoversial guy led the Ginebra on this win with 32 points. big game for him.

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Finally we will be seeing strong teams playing today, they are back after a long rest.

We have these double header, First game Northport vs Phoenix, and 2nd game is Rain or Shine vs Ginebra.
I haven't check the spread yet but I'm incline to bet on the well rested team, forget about the rust got Ginebra and Phoenix, will be taking a parlay on the moneyline.

Hope to see a blowout win for Ginebra as I'm considering the spread as well.

Phoenix fell short while gin kings managed to win, it's really tough when playing parlay as if you missed one then you lose your bet, though I can see your point since they are well rested they have the fresh legs here, but, NP still hot after that win against Converge they are able to take this game away from Phoenix, that early 1st half lead gave them decent margin to take this game, even Phoenix did try to make a rally but they'll runout of time to snatch this game against NP.

While in the second game, there's no problem with the favorite, RoS can't handle the hot hands of Malonzo, No scottie, no problem as Gin kings manage to take their first game with a win.

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March 09, 2024, 12:14:17 PM
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While in the second game, there's no problem with the favorite, RoS can't handle the hot hands of Malonzo, No scottie, no problem as Gin kings manage to take their first game with a win.

Malonzo took his revenge in the game he loved. He was hurt when he was drunk, but now he is back and having a great start of the season.

Meanwhile, let's move on to the games today, all two games has been concluded, the first game is quite interesting as TNT won by 3 points only against the DYIP. The 2nd game is not entertaining, as it was a blowout win by NLEX. Maybe I'm a bit bias here since I bet on the Converge live when they are down, thinking they'll come back with a strong run but they failed to amaze me, not a profitable night for me.

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March 09, 2024, 03:51:31 PM
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While in the second game, there's no problem with the favorite, RoS can't handle the hot hands of Malonzo, No scottie, no problem as Gin kings manage to take their first game with a win.

Malonzo took his revenge in the game he loved. He was hurt when he was drunk, but now he is back and having a great start of the season.

Meanwhile, let's move on to the games today, all two games has been concluded, the first game is quite interesting as TNT won by 3 points only against the DYIP. The 2nd game is not entertaining, as it was a blowout win by NLEX. Maybe I'm a bit bias here since I bet on the Converge live when they are down, thinking they'll come back with a strong run but they failed to amaze me, not a profitable night for me.

NLEX had finally found a true leader of this team, for another game, Bollick led the team for this big win and now he gets even better with 46 points from 17-26 shooting... That's very accurate, you can ask  where's the defense, looks like they don't know him, he is  a bomb and anytime could explode. And with that win, NLEX move to the rank 3 with 3-1, win-loss record.

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March 09, 2024, 05:03:00 PM
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While in the second game, there's no problem with the favorite, RoS can't handle the hot hands of Malonzo, No scottie, no problem as Gin kings manage to take their first game with a win.

Malonzo took his revenge in the game he loved. He was hurt when he was drunk, but now he is back and having a great start of the season.

Meanwhile, let's move on to the games today, all two games has been concluded, the first game is quite interesting as TNT won by 3 points only against the DYIP. The 2nd game is not entertaining, as it was a blowout win by NLEX. Maybe I'm a bit bias here since I bet on the Converge live when they are down, thinking they'll come back with a strong run but they failed to amaze me, not a profitable night for me.

NLEX had finally found a true leader of this team, for another game, Bollick led the team for this big win and now he gets even better with 46 points from 17-26 shooting... That's very accurate, you can ask  where's the defense, looks like they don't know him, he is  a bomb and anytime could explode. And with that win, NLEX move to the rank 3 with 3-1, win-loss record.

No question, he's been balling now and his teammates are trusting him to lead the team. I think he has a chance to compete for the MVP award if he keep his consistency high, scoring 20+ per game an average is already enough but also has to consider the ranking of his team and that means he needs to keep helping the team to win. Having a good 3-1 record, that's already an impressive start, and since Bollick has adjusted well with the necessary chemistry, there's no doubt about their sucess this All Filipino Cup.

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While in the second game, there's no problem with the favorite, RoS can't handle the hot hands of Malonzo, No scottie, no problem as Gin kings manage to take their first game with a win.

Malonzo took his revenge in the game he loved. He was hurt when he was drunk, but now he is back and having a great start of the season.

Meanwhile, let's move on to the games today, all two games has been concluded, the first game is quite interesting as TNT won by 3 points only against the DYIP. The 2nd game is not entertaining, as it was a blowout win by NLEX. Maybe I'm a bit bias here since I bet on the Converge live when they are down, thinking they'll come back with a strong run but they failed to amaze me, not a profitable night for me.

Yeah he puts all the hate in this game hahaha,  but kidding aside he's really an athletic  player  and now that he's putting his numbers and his teammates are really supporting him we might  see more from Malonzo I guess CTC is unleashing him, I mean he's already a great supporting cast of the Gin kings but what we've seen is something that coach Tim is very good at' building and establishing stars to reach his full potential,  with a healthy Japeth and CStand I'm pretty sure they are up to compete for another title.

On the other side,  Berto exploded and again carry his team, that same intensity that he provide  before looking forward for more exciting and entertaining game from him.

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March 09, 2024, 09:49:44 PM
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... will be taking a parlay on the moneyline.
Unfortunately Phoenix fall short int he last quarter. You can see the rust in the game since they are outscored in the first quarter, slowly they made an adjustment until the 4th quarter but still fall by 4 points. Parlay is dead, you need to come back in the 2nd game, double or nothing? Smiley

I think It will be Ginebra winning the 2nd game, they are -5.5 now, hopefully they'll dominate for an easy win. I might just wait for the live betting here, it's hard to trust nowadays, you know it's PBA, nothing is impossible, even bad teams could look good.
This could be the way Ginebra choses this season as we all know, the league is being questioned about manipulation of the game, and that’s why even the strongest team suffers a shocking loss. Well, politics in PBA is still there and we might not be able to witness the greatness of PBA again, so be sure if you are going to bet with PBA know its risk and be ready for a possible different outcome.

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March 10, 2024, 09:46:34 AM
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... will be taking a parlay on the moneyline.
Unfortunately Phoenix fall short int he last quarter. You can see the rust in the game since they are outscored in the first quarter, slowly they made an adjustment until the 4th quarter but still fall by 4 points. Parlay is dead, you need to come back in the 2nd game, double or nothing? Smiley

I think It will be Ginebra winning the 2nd game, they are -5.5 now, hopefully they'll dominate for an easy win. I might just wait for the live betting here, it's hard to trust nowadays, you know it's PBA, nothing is impossible, even bad teams could look good.
This could be the way Ginebra choses this season as we all know, the league is being questioned about manipulation of the game, and that’s why even the strongest team suffers a shocking loss. Well, politics in PBA is still there and we might not be able to witness the greatness of PBA again, so be sure if you are going to bet with PBA know its risk and be ready for a possible different outcome.

That manipulation rumors has been here for a while, it will never disappear as there are some bettors who don't like the outcome of the game they are betting. Actually, only bettors think of manipulation or rigging games, pure fans are just probably enjoying the game.

Anyway, let's go back to the game, the first game is over and Meralco loss, no Newsome, that's the reason why... On the 2nd game, it will be between Ginebra and Phoenix, I have already risk my money on Phoenix to win, and have some specials for bigger odds, Phoenix to win by 6-10, and 11+... Either one of the bets will hit, I'm still in profit, so hopefully Ginebra will lose.

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Anyway, let's go back to the game, the first game is over and Meralco loss, no Newsome, that's the reason why...
The loss was really huge for the team since he is their best player, without him they will struggle as they don't have a lot of players that could bring some firepower to win. Low scoring game, should have favored the Bolts buts since Newsome was out, they were not able to do that. I wasn't also aware that he was out, you know, PBA does not have an update regarding that or I just didn't check, i was just curiuos why they were the underdog seeing the live betting odds.

Edit : I have checked the boxscore fo the game and I saw his name on the list, Newsome actually played 32 minutes but only contributed 15 points.
You can check again .https://pba.ph/recap?match=2417609

On the 2nd game, it will be between Ginebra and Phoenix, I have already risk my money on Phoenix to win, and have some specials for bigger odds, Phoenix to win by 6-10, and 11+... Either one of the bets will hit, I'm still in profit, so hopefully Ginebra will lose.
Like the first game of the Ginebra, they are leading again, but good luck to your bet, still plenty of time to  play, so not yet sure if Ginebra will win.

Hopefully you'll hit that winning margin range.

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March 10, 2024, 06:51:00 PM
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... will be taking a parlay on the moneyline.
Unfortunately Phoenix fall short int he last quarter. You can see the rust in the game since they are outscored in the first quarter, slowly they made an adjustment until the 4th quarter but still fall by 4 points. Parlay is dead, you need to come back in the 2nd game, double or nothing? Smiley

I think It will be Ginebra winning the 2nd game, they are -5.5 now, hopefully they'll dominate for an easy win. I might just wait for the live betting here, it's hard to trust nowadays, you know it's PBA, nothing is impossible, even bad teams could look good.
This could be the way Ginebra choses this season as we all know, the league is being questioned about manipulation of the game, and that’s why even the strongest team suffers a shocking loss. Well, politics in PBA is still there and we might not be able to witness the greatness of PBA again, so be sure if you are going to bet with PBA know its risk and be ready for a possible different outcome.

We can't remove that fact anymore,  manipulation is not by far, as there are two major franchise companies who really dominates the league,  but it's too early for that as even manipulation can be done if there's no bettors they can't do anything, they need to pretend first so fans and gamblers will still be there to bets for their picks, but I agree to you gamblers needs to accept the high risk that they'll going to take,.

So far, both SMB and Ginebra are the teams that have the capabilities to dominate, I don't see any chance from MVP's squad,  unless big trades happened and shuffle their players to form another competitive squads.

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