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September 07, 2015, 04:46:15 PM
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Two years ago nobody thought Ukraine would be fighting for its freedom in a hybrid war instigated by Russia.

This is a new type of war: with soldiers without identifying marks, civilians as a shield, local terrorism and diversions, propaganda, cyber-terrorism and diplomatic double-dealings. Is Europe ready for such a type of conflict?

You think this war is somewhere far away?
Ukraine is in the center of Europe!

Wake up mate, Europe is doing the very same thing since centuries, so I think they are ready for that Smiley. Well, no offence but maybe Ukraine is in Europe, but it still considered as a remote shithole by most westerners. Actually most of my english colleagues doesn't understand why the "ruskies" keep brawling between each other... and to be honest they doesn't even seem to be interested.

And, Snail2, actually they are not far from truth. What happens in Ukraine is a civil war, which first and foremost undermines Russia and Ukraine with the flames being stoked up from across the ocean, each time when it seems that the fires are dying out and the reason and willingness to talk returns.

And now the fantasy writes in Kiev created a new hoax with the intent to be swallowed by Western MSM. Syria, as we remember, is the new vector of attack, so check out the following:

According to official Kiev, Donbass militia is drafting volunteers to be sent to Syria.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/09/07/n_7562261.shtml
As the Republican Armies don't have their hands full, fending off constant attacks from the Western Ukro-Nazis.

Ukrainian army violated the ceasefire and conducted 2 provocations:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1441613807

As I said above, the new vector of infowars attack on Russia is now through Syria. Russia is now suddenly accused of the immigrant inflow into Europe from Middle-East. Presumable because Russia is legally and legitimately supports the legitimate government of Syria and sending armaments to the besieged - by terroristic US-sponsored ISISI - Syria in accordance to the official contracts.



OSCE saw no military hardware, weaponry crossing from Russia to Ukraine – mission head
http://www.rt.com/news/311800-osce-russia-ukraine-weapons/

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No military hardware, weaponry or people bearing arms have crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border during nearly a year of observations, said Paul Picard, the chief of the OSCE monitoring mission deployed at border crossing points in Donetsk and Gukovo.

“We have not seen any military equipment crossing the Donetsk or Gukovo checkpoints,” Picard said at a press conference in Russia’s southern city of Rostov-on-Don. The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe observers have also “never seen people crossing the border with weapons. The border guard and customs strictly watch over this,” he added.

They monitor only two checkpoints for 300 km uncontrolled Ukraine border, of course, Russian terrorist forces are bypassing these checkpoints
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September 07, 2015, 06:32:21 PM
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There are a lot of people who are hopelessly brainwashed to believe that Russia is always evil and is always the aggressor, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

This is a product of the Zionist Soros & Rothschild media.

Victoria Cunt Nuland herself admitted that they spent 5 billion dollars to launch the coup in Kiev, and morons still think it's "Russian aggression"

Foreigners, including former US diplomats, have taken key posts in Ukraine's government, and yet somehow it's still "Russian aggression".

The biggest CIA operating base in the world is in Kiev, Ukraine. They are running the whole freakshow in Kiev, yet somehow it's still "Russian aggression".

Ukronazi freaks continue to kill dozens of civilians every week with indiscriminate artillery shelling, somehow it's still "Russian aggression".

There just is no telling these fucking morons.
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September 08, 2015, 02:50:38 PM
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128th brigade of Ukrainian Army lost 2 KIA and 2 WIA after terrorists attack in Lugansk Region

Yesterday on Septerber 7 2 Ukrainian soldiers of 128th brigade got killed and 2 more wounded after attack of saboteur group near the contact line on Ukraine controlled part of Lugansk Region near Bolotene village. This happened after yesterday’s report about 5 dead terrorists found in that area who got killed by landmines.

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September 08, 2015, 04:53:41 PM
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Anton Gerashchenko(adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine) said that an hour ago detained fresh Russian soldiers in the Luhansk region. Details later.

new russians tourist, who retired from the army?
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September 09, 2015, 10:29:15 AM
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Ukraine and DPR to swap prisoners this afternoon
Ukrainian prisoners and militants of the self-proclaimed "People's Republic of Donetsk" stand prior to a prisoner exchange between Ukraine and pro-Russian rebels on Dec. 26, 2014 in the eastern Ukrainian city of Yasinovataya, near Donetsk.

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The monitoring mission of the UN Human Rights Council to Ukraine has recorded facts of mass killings of civilians, abductions, torture, sexual abuse, forced labor and extortion by Russian-backed militants in Donbas, according to Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry. 

"Ukraine has carefully studied the eleventh Report of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, which covers the period from May 16 to August 15, 2015. The information collected by the monitoring mission is another evidence of a highly negative impact of the Russian aggression against Ukraine on the human rights. In particular, it clearly states the impact on human rights across the region of external factors, such as Russian supply of military forces, weapons and ammunition to the Donbas," as stated in comments by MFA of Ukraine provided to UNIAN.

It is noted that the report is of great importance as it documents the crimes committed by Russian-backed illegal armed groups in the east of Ukraine. Among the facts reported by the mission are mass killings of civilians, abductions, torture, sexual abuse, forced labor and extortion.

Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1120582-un-monitors-report-mass-killings-of-civilians-by-militants-in-donbas.html
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September 12, 2015, 05:23:27 AM
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The monitoring mission of the UN Human Rights Council to Ukraine has recorded facts of mass killings of civilians, abductions, torture, sexual abuse, forced labor and extortion by Russian-backed militants in Donbas, according to Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry. 

"Ukraine has carefully studied the eleventh Report of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, which covers the period from May 16 to August 15, 2015. The information collected by the monitoring mission is another evidence of a highly negative impact of the Russian aggression against Ukraine on the human rights. In particular, it clearly states the impact on human rights across the region of external factors, such as Russian supply of military forces, weapons and ammunition to the Donbas," as stated in comments by MFA of Ukraine provided to UNIAN.

It is noted that the report is of great importance as it documents the crimes committed by Russian-backed illegal armed groups in the east of Ukraine. Among the facts reported by the mission are mass killings of civilians, abductions, torture, sexual abuse, forced labor and extortion.

Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1120582-un-monitors-report-mass-killings-of-civilians-by-militants-in-donbas.html

I hope Putin's forces kill every single Ukrainian Terrorist. If they hold a gun and are Ukrainian then die bitches.

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September 12, 2015, 02:39:08 PM
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Ukrainian border guards detained 2 Russian citizens in military uniform in Lugansk Region. 1 had his mil. unit ID
Russia claims that Ukrainian secret service got on Russian territory, captured those guys and took them to Ukraine )) personally I think those Russian guys were drinking all night and got lost when they walked to the bus stop in the morning
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September 13, 2015, 11:03:08 AM
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Russia refuses to return border control to Ukraine – Klimkin  Angry

He said after the Berlin meeting of foreign ministers of the Normandy Four

"We need to give real political impulse to the process," he stressed. "You cannot talk about any interaction in terms of electoral commissions and the whole organization of free and fair elections, when we have hostages in Donbas. You cannot even talk about security when we have no real withdrawal of arms, mercenaries and eventually regular Russian troops," the Minister said. He is convinced that "all these issues must be addressed as a single complex."

Russian side did not support the initiative to establish a working group on the border issue.
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September 13, 2015, 01:11:19 PM
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Russia refuses to return border control to Ukraine – Klimkin  Angry

What should Russia do? The border control posts on the Ukrainian side of Russo-Ukrainian border are under the control of DNR / LNR, after they kicked out the Kiev junta forces more than a year ago. If you want the control of these posts, then ask Poroshenko to start talks with the DNR / LNR authorities. Russia has nothing to do with this.
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September 13, 2015, 06:00:55 PM
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then ask Poroshenko to start talks with the DNR / LNR authorities.

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September 13, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
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It seems to me that Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk would prefer DNR and LNR outside Ukraine. If the 5 million citizens of DNR / LNR are made eligible to vote in the Ukrainian elections, then that would reduce the vote share of the pro-EU parties. The Opposition Bloc might end up as the single largest party in the parliament.
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September 13, 2015, 08:37:56 PM
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Russia organising forces in Donetsk and Luhansk into two army corps under Russian command. Here 2nd corps in Luhansk.

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September 16, 2015, 12:24:06 PM
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The situation in the eastern regions of Ukraine as of 16 Sep 2015 [infographics]

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September 16, 2015, 05:08:58 PM
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Looks like XEPBAM has taken root here. Pagan 2.0?  Roll Eyes

Latest news from there:

LNR reported that today, at 10:58, 11:15, 11:50, 12:00, 12:15, 13:26, Ukrainian forces were shooting at the populated area - village Kalinovka, using firearms and large-calibre machine guns.

At 14:34, the aggressor used sub-burrel mine throwers against village Lozov.

At 19:00 fire was opened from armoured vehicle.


No losses among the civilians and the Republican armed forces are reported.

http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1972683?743874



And while the civilians are being shot at by the Ukrainian armed forces in the East....

A sinister, yet very real danger is lurking in Ukraine. Already back in 2008 Ukraine was experiencing shortage of vaccines, but last year, after Ukraine stopped buying vaccines from Russia and cannot afford much more expensive vaccines from the West, the situation has deteriorated to a critical level – there are basically no vaccines left in the country, with only 10-20%% of children receiving the necessary vaccination. According to a high-standing Ukrainian health official, the situation is worse than in some African states. Meanwhile, only during last year 200000 Ukrainian refugees (mostly children) received free vaccination in Russia. While in Western-Ukraine, in Transcarpathia, there were registered two cases of children falling ill with Polio!

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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September 16, 2015, 06:00:00 PM
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Looks like XEPBAM has taken root here. Pagan 2.0?  Roll Eyes

Latest news from there:

LNR reported that today, at 10:58, 11:15, 11:50, 12:00, 12:15, 13:26, Ukrainian forces were shooting at the populated area - village Kalinovka, using firearms and large-calibre machine guns.

At 14:34, the aggressor used sub-burrel mine throwers against village Lozov.

At 19:00 fire was opened from armoured vehicle.


No losses among the civilians and the Republican armed forces are reported.

http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1972683?743874



And while the civilians are being shot at by the Ukrainian armed forces in the East....

A sinister, yet very real danger is lurking in Ukraine. Already back in 2008 Ukraine was experiencing shortage of vaccines, but last year, after Ukraine stopped buying vaccines from Russia and cannot afford much more expensive vaccines from the West, the situation has deteriorated to a critical level – there are basically no vaccines left in the country, with only 10-20%% of children receiving the necessary vaccination. According to a high-standing Ukrainian health official, the situation is worse than in some African states. Meanwhile, only during last year 200000 Ukrainian refugees (mostly children) received free vaccination in Russia. While in Western-Ukraine, in Transcarpathia, there were registered two cases of children falling ill with Polio!

LNR is nothing, this is russian FAKE
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Looks like XEPBAM has taken root here. Pagan 2.0?  Roll Eyes

Latest news from there:

LNR reported that today, at 10:58, 11:15, 11:50, 12:00, 12:15, 13:26, Ukrainian forces were shooting at the populated area - village Kalinovka, using firearms and large-calibre machine guns.

At 14:34, the aggressor used sub-burrel mine throwers against village Lozov.

At 19:00 fire was opened from armoured vehicle.


No losses among the civilians and the Republican armed forces are reported.

http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1972683?743874



And while the civilians are being shot at by the Ukrainian armed forces in the East....

A sinister, yet very real danger is lurking in Ukraine. Already back in 2008 Ukraine was experiencing shortage of vaccines, but last year, after Ukraine stopped buying vaccines from Russia and cannot afford much more expensive vaccines from the West, the situation has deteriorated to a critical level – there are basically no vaccines left in the country, with only 10-20%% of children receiving the necessary vaccination. According to a high-standing Ukrainian health official, the situation is worse than in some African states. Meanwhile, only during last year 200000 Ukrainian refugees (mostly children) received free vaccination in Russia. While in Western-Ukraine, in Transcarpathia, there were registered two cases of children falling ill with Polio!

LNR is nothing, this is russian FAKE
Ukropiteks are so funny. Looks like almost all of them are thinking that CAPS LOCK is making their statements look more convincing.
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September 17, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
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Balthazar, that type joined his like-mouthed on my ignore list. Don't think he qualifies for a reply.


“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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September 17, 2015, 11:42:09 AM
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Bribing mobsters in an effort to decrease mob violence (apart from the good kind of violence where the mobsters wipe out each other) is an old strategy but has had very limited results over time. Yet another failure:

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Former Secretary of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee Geir Lundestad reportedly notes in his new book that the body “didn't achieve what it had hoped for” when it gave Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt and conferred the prestigious award on him in 2009.
While it is quite rare for Nobel officials to openly discuss the nuts and bolts of their secretive committee, the former director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute has apparently owned up in his memoir ‘Secretary of Peace’, to be released on Thursday, that the panel had expected the award to somewhat challenge Obama, who received the Nobel Peace Prize during his first term.

The Norwegian historian told AP that the committee "thought it would strengthen Obama and it didn't have this effect." The five members of the Nobel Committee, often former politicians, are appointed by the Norwegian parliament. The coveted award was met with an avalanche of criticism instead. An army of opponents noted that Obama had made no foreign policy achievements worthy of the prize in less than nine months in office. On top of this, he received the award while the US was engaged in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan....

http://www.rt.com/news/315701-obama-peace-prize-mistake/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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September 17, 2015, 11:45:50 AM
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The monitoring mission of the UN Human Rights Council to Ukraine has recorded facts of mass killings of civilians, abductions, torture, sexual abuse, forced labor and extortion by Russian-backed militants in Donbas, according to Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry.  

"Ukraine has carefully studied the eleventh Report of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, which covers the period from May 16 to August 15, 2015. The information collected by the monitoring mission is another evidence of a highly negative impact of the Russian aggression against Ukraine on the human rights. In particular, it clearly states the impact on human rights across the region of external factors, such as Russian supply of military forces, weapons and ammunition to the Donbas," as stated in comments by MFA of Ukraine provided to UNIAN.

It is noted that the report is of great importance as it documents the crimes committed by Russian-backed illegal armed groups in the east of Ukraine. Among the facts reported by the mission are mass killings of civilians, abductions, torture, sexual abuse, forced labor and extortion.

Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1120582-un-monitors-report-mass-killings-of-civilians-by-militants-in-donbas.html

I hope Putin's forces kill every single Ukrainian Terrorist. If they hold a gun and are Ukrainian then die bitches.

Coinits, no. Violence and hatred leads to more violence and hatred. That's not the Russian way. Many/most of those Ukrainians with guns are either brainwashed or intimidated into fighting. They are most often common blokes taken off the streets (literally) and thrown into the meetgrinder. Just like the Germans invading USSR during WWII were for the most part common people.

We must find and bring to justice all those, who organised and orchestrated this civil war, a Nurenberg for Ukrainian oligarchs and their backers, if you please. I just don't see USA extraditing Biden and Nudelman (aka Nuland) to be tried at such a trial...

Now on to the sensationalist article, mentioned by Pagan 2.0

As always, let's go to the source and not fixate on a pro-Bandre interpretation of the site above:

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/UA/11thOHCHRreportUkraine.pdf

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HRMMU  continued  to  receive  and  verify  allegations  of  killings,  abductions,  torture
and ill-treatment, sexual violence, forced labour, ransom demands and extortion of money on
the territories controlled by the ‘Donetsk people’s  republic’ and ‘Luhansk people’s republic’. It
also  received  reports  of  isolated  incidents  where  armed  groups  disrupted  religious  services
and intimidated several religious communities. An estimated three million people continue to
reside in the territories under control of the ‘Donetsk people’s republic’ and ‘Luhansk people’s
republic’ without protection from the human rights violations and abuses of the armed groups
and  their  supporters.  The  estimated  hundreds  of  people  held  by  the  armed  groups  are  at
particular risk of being tortured, ill-treated or otherwise abused.

What strikes me in the report is a total ambiguity. Let's see

 - "HRMMU  continued  to  receive  and  verify  allegations". Yes. Allegation. Mostly coming from Kiev officials. The only international mission on the ground in the are is OCSE.

- "on  the territories controlled by the ‘Donetsk people’s  republic’ and ‘Luhansk people’s republic’". What is does not say, is all the cases of mass graves that DNR and LNR uncovered on the territories that were under control of the Ukrainian ultranationalists, but which were liberated by DNR/LNR and thus came under their control.

OCSE refused to investigate those:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIrr2JCDuG4

Here is one uncovered mass grave 60 kilometres from Donetsk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMj0FtseVfs

Tortured bodies in mass graves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i43fxk95Xa4

Here is from Lugansk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1wp13laCt8

 - "where  armed  groups  disrupted  religious  services" - Ukro-Nazi armed groups have been burning Orthodox churches. Why not say it like that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKbjbAXs8oc

And here is a video report from Donetsk from 1 month ago, locals complain that Donestk is being shelled again by Ukrainian punishers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t2qgMRakws

- "The  estimated  hundreds  of  people  held  by  the  armed  groups  are  at particular risk of being tortured, ill-treated or otherwise abused." - Again, why not mention which "armed groups". Donetsk and Lugansk authorities have files with testimonials of hundreds of civilians and military personel, who were liberated from the Kiev armed groups and bear witness of torture and simulated executions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSyKMdjOc84
Torture and execution of civilians of Donetsk region: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0daZ34uQRso
Torture in the freezer rooms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgY2Mj0lDJY
Witness account: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mrG8GCSYws
Project highlighting torture of political prisoners in Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdPsB4paE0

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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