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May 02, 2015, 04:03:25 PM
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I'm not sure it's covered in the Western press, but huge forest fires were raging in the exclusion zone in Chernobyl, raising radioactive particles that were deposited in the forest floor, into the air and spreading it as ash around anew.

Much more about the topic here:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/does-chernobyl-fire-threaten-a-new-nuclear-disaster/

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Who started Chernobyl fire?

So, is the fire an act of god and a karmic return, or is it enacted by humans? As I said, I don’t believe even idiots from the Kiev government are crazy enough to start such fire. But there is someone else in Ukraine who is. For the past several days I have been hearing an interesting story. When I put the two and two together, here is the picture that emerged.

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May 02, 2015, 04:40:32 PM
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'Bionerd' scientist visits Chernobyl, eats toxic apple
Last updated 15:53, April 29 2015

A mysterious scientist has ventured into Chernobyl 29 years after the nuclear meltdown, scaling missile defence system towers and eating contaminated apples.

The woman known only as "Bionerd" has made six visits to the Chernobyl exclusion zone to measure radiation levels and the effects on the ecosystem.

It was the site of a devastating nuclear explosion on April 26, 1986, and her videos of the site have helped her garner more than 34,000 subscribers to her Youtube channel. ...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/68119129/bionerd-scientist-visits-chernobyl-eats-toxic-apple

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May 04, 2015, 10:27:43 AM
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Shelling of residential areas of Donetsk by ukro-nazis happens every day now. The chief of OCSE expressed his concern with the escalating number of "cease-fire" violations. In non-diplomatic speeach it means that the situation got completely out of hand.

http://tass.ru/en/world/792923

And on topic of the above, I want to quote a large fragment of Lada Ray's report:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/does-chernobyl-fire-threaten-a-new-nuclear-disaster/

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Today, DNR reported that an unusually well-equipped group of what looked like Western special forces armed with non-Kalashnikov, Western made rifles, began an armed shootout with a group of ukro-nazis They killed 4 and loaded the remaining 7 into a Volkswagen van. After that, they left the area and the shelling of Donetsk had stopped. DNR intelligence reports that the intervention was executed by non-Ukrainians, possibly NATO or private contractor from the EU. These people were equipped with GPS-powered radios and other Western equipment. There are reports of the right sector and nazi battalion members being disarmed and hunted down in Dnepropetrovsk after Kolomoysky’s demise.

What does all this mean? This means that the EU is serious about enforcing Minsk 2 agreements. It is interesting that the US, at least Obama personally, is on the same page. The scenario is playing out exactly as I predicted in my early article about striking parallels between the Georgia 2008 war and Ukraine 2014-15. Just like in the case of Georgia, US and EU first yell a lot and threaten to punish Russia. After a while though they realize that certain deals in world affairs are impossible without Russia. This concerns, among other things, Iran negotiations and the Yemen conflict. It also turns out they can’t deal with Ukraine without Russia either, as hinted by various EU and German officials.

Another thing that scares EU are the unruly nazis running around with guns. This is a danger not only for Ukraine itself, but for Europe as well. And they are right.

The EU reps told the following to Poroshenko in Kiev: ‘make sure Minsk cease-fire is observed. Don’t break the peace so not to give the chance to the Russian propaganda to malign us (with truth, apparently -LR). Also don’t you dare attack Donbass so not to give the opportunity for the Russian separatists to counter-attack.

They are right to warn Poroshenko to behave. Head of DNR Zakharchenko warned that if Kiev breaks the truce and attacks again, there will be no Minsk 3. “This time, we won’t stop in Kiev; we’ll keep going,” said Zakharchenko.

There is a real deal hunt for ukro-nazi militants all over Ukraine. This is undoubtedly sanctioned by the US and EU. In fact, in the Kiev euro-maidan coup both the peaceful protesters and vicious ukro-nazis were simply convenient patsies. They were needed to overturn Yanukovich and establish the dictate of the West in Kiev. Now they outlived their usefulness. They either have to fall in line or disappear.

This repeats exactly the events of the 1930s in Germany. After coming to power, Hitler organized the ‘night of the long knives,’ eliminating his buddy Rem and his well-trained militants, first having used them for his purposes. If course Rem was getting out of hand threatening Hitler with his militants. Today, ukro-nazis also dare to threaten Kiev with turning their weapons on them, attempting at one point to storm president’s administration. Really, they never learn!

The power in Kiev doesn’t belong to Poroshenko or Central Rada. The power in Kiev is concentrated in a different set of hands and in a different building. That’s why they can never succeed – the new maidan won’t be allowed by the puppet masters. And if they refuse to fall in line, they’ll never survive. As mentioned above, the entire spread is revealed in EARTH SHIFT REPORT: OLIGARCH WARS.

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There is persistent talk of a potential catastrophe on one of Ukraine’s functioning nuclear stations. Rumors of that are ongoing since last year. The good news is: the fact that so many people talk about it may have prevented such false flag.

Another thing actively circulated is that the Kiev army is amassing forces to attack Donbass. The only question is when. DNR army spokesperson Eduard Basurin reported that DNR intelligence expects provocations involving heavy shelling on May 8th and 9th, to be blamed by Ukraine on DNR and LNR.

What I want to stress is: people talking and yelling about it does help prevent provocations and false flags.
There is ‘operation Glasnost’ underway. The goal is to make public and distribute in social media all the information that becomes available, thus taking away the real weapon of those who lie and manipulate. They can only succeed if the other side is silent. The more truth and warnings are pre-emptively released, the harder it is to execute false flags and perpetuate lies and hoaxes.

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May 04, 2015, 06:48:20 PM
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Nemo,

given my limited knowledge of PMC, I find it highly unlikely, that those "western troops" are regulers from NATO. Rather, it would make sense to finance contractors via third party (like Kiev via IMF). Very similar strategy was employed in Afganistan, where CIA financed Pakistanis to basically found Taliban to fight USSR.
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May 04, 2015, 08:27:34 PM
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Yes, the presence of Academi/Blackwarter in Ukraine was confirmed several times. However, their task might not be to fight with Donbass, as speculated, but to keep the ukro-nazis in check and towing the line.

Meanwhile...

Poland’s president signs law on establishing Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian military brigade
http://tass.ru/en/world/792931

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The brigade will be formed as part of the European Union’s combat groups with an aim to participate in operations under the UN, NATO and EU aegis


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May 04, 2015, 08:57:28 PM
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Yeah, yeah the only thing the´re capable of is shelling from afar. What else is new. I very much doubt that there´ll be any meaningful ground offensive. The present terror is just for appearances.

Rasmussen, that joker in charge of NATO, is concerned about rising tensions between the west and Russia. Yeah, most likely he´s concerned about his own useless job. And General Strangelove is at it again only now he´s complaining after all his lies that he hasn´t had sufficient intelligence. What a laugh. And he says now that it APPEARS that the Russkies are up to something. That´s a new twist. Not unexpected when your credibility was at zero months ago.

As before I always find the Russians highly suspicious. My theory has been that they had quite the hand in creating this whole mess for their own benefit. It may not have gone exactly to plan, that´s too much to expect but they seem to be sitting rather pretty now. Good luck, g


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May 04, 2015, 09:13:41 PM
Last edit: May 05, 2015, 06:29:42 PM by galdur
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Gimme a break, a Dane in charge of a military alliance. It´s just another dumpster for politicians past their expiration date. Isn´t a Norwegian another big shot there at NATO ? Yawn. And they´re in charge of military that has watched too much Hollywood-Pentagon for decades, hasn´t been able to subdue anything remotely capable of defending itself for like forever. And now they´re up against the Russian Bear. Small wonder that they´re confused, they´ve been played like the dunces that they are.

P.S. Actually the Danes have a very pertinent and elementary saying for this situation

Den mere kloge narrer den mindre kloge.


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Gimme a break, a Dane in charge of a military alliance. It´s just another dumpster for politicians past their expiration date. Isn´t a Norwegian another big shot there at NATO ? Yawn. And they´re in charge of military that has watched too much Hollywood-Pentagon for decades, hasn´t been able to subdue anything remotely capable of defending itself for like forever. And now they´re up against the Russian Bear. Small wonder that they´re confused, they´ve been played like the dunces that they are.

P.S. Actually the Danes have a very pertinent and elementary saying for this situation

Den mere kloge narrer den mindre kloge.

The wiser one fools the less wise one. Nice Smiley

As for NATO, they are trying the Georgian vector again, sending 14 Bradley armoured vehicles there (from Bulgarian Varnu, which in turn plans to take up loans to buy NATO equipment in replacement of the Russian one they have now) and planning new exercises:
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150504/1062537612.html

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How are you? I haven't been here for a long time.
Are Russian troll farms still working night and day?
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May 06, 2015, 10:19:48 PM
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Some news from the madhouse:

The city of Artemovsk, which has been renamed into Bahmut(?!) is taking measures against Ukraine's enemy number 1, Soviet/Russian singer Iosif Kobzon, who was incidentally borne not far from Donetsk. The will be demolishing a memorial placard with his name tomorrow:
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/05/06/kobzonmonument/
At the same time the will install a memorial placard to the "hero of Ukraine" Chernjavskij (which one?): https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8F%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9
and will unveil the first defensive complex (against the other Ukrainians?) that they've built...

And Ukraine now officially put the Nazis from UPA/OUN and Stepan Bandera, who have thousands of Ukrainian, Russian and Polish lives on their hands, as members of anti-Hitler coalition:
http://ria.ru/world/20150506/1062996291.html?isas

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The Russians must be shaking in their boots.  Grin

NATO launches massive war drills on Russia's doorstep

Published on May 6, 2015
NATO has launched massive war games on Russia's doorstep, with drills taking part in Estonia and Norway. Personnel from ten alliance members, including the US and the UK, are taking part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL7rfh3WtpM

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What a honour!  Smiley

Are you still working here?
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The Russians must be shaking in their boots.  Grin

NATO launches massive war drills on Russia's doorstep

Published on May 6, 2015
NATO has launched massive war games on Russia's doorstep, with drills taking part in Estonia and Norway. Personnel from ten alliance members, including the US and the UK, are taking part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL7rfh3WtpM

Funny you should mention it...

The Canadian journalist published an interesting piece:

NATO seeks to draw in new anti-Russia forces: Analyst
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/05/05/409570/NATO-Russia-Ukraine-War-Games-Victory-Day-

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Press TV has interviewed Fred Weir, a journalist and political commentator in Moscow, to discuss recent military exercises held by NATO members in Europe, while Russia prepares to celebrate World War II Victory Day.

Press TV: Sir, give us your thoughts on the recent military exercises being carried out by NATO members.

Weir: Well, most of this is not routine. I mean we have always had routine military exercises every year, big organizations get together dozens of times a year to hold war games and so on. It is not just that this takes place amid a political crisis, a very serious one over Ukraine, but that it is drawing in new energies, new forces. For instance, Sweden will be cooperating for the first time with the anti-submarine exercises, although Sweden is not a member of NATO.

Press TV: What kind of response are you expecting to see from Moscow?

Weir: Well, they will complain, have complained. They will say all the things that are said, because this is not the first time... this is not new and has been going on for months and months; this ratcheting up of tensions. But of course Russia right now is completely absorbed in the Victory Day celebrations, which will happen in a few days. There will be a very big, huge military parade across Moscow. We have rehearsals going on right now with all the new Russian equipment, new Russian tanks, and armored vehicles, new fighter plane; this fifth generation fighter plane. So this I think is all connected as well. This is a huge day for Russia. Western leaders are boycotting this military parade and all this... I mean this military games in the Baltic and the North Sea are probably a part of that.



And while Canada is mentioned...

Canada Represents a Reservoir of Support for Ukrainian Nazis
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/05/06/6039/

(with regard to info published in http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/04/10/canada-represents-reservoir-support-ukrainian-neo-nazis.html )

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Sadly, Canada has been one of the main sources of support for ukro-nazis, who in the 20th century were exclusively concentrated in western Ukraine (Lvov, Ivano-Frankovsk, Rovno oblasts – usually referred to together as Galichina and Volin’).

Do you want to know where else the Ukrainian Bandera-nazis concentrated after WWII?

The answer is connected to the following questions. Why is Canada so hands-on about a country located half the world away? What’s in it for Canada?

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And, finally, I want to say a few words about Iosif Kobzon. He is not only a popular singer, who performed many songs about The War. Here is his performance of "The Victory Day":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym4Fy6ZNQO4

He is also a brave person. During the Nord-Ost hostage drama, when islamic terrorists took hostages in Moscow theatre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
Iosif Kobzon agreed to act as a negotiator going in, and managing to convince the terrorists to release some of the hostages.

He accompanied one of the humanitarian convoys to Donbass, fully aware of the danger that Ukro-nazis may shoot at and shell the convoy.

He came under American and European sanctions for defending democracy, vocally supporting the right of the people of Crimea and Donbass to self-determinations.

Clearly, such an exemplary person, a role model for what an honest human being should be, scares the Empire of Chaos and their Euro-vassals, so they had to ban him, to prohibit him from entering Europe.

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May 07, 2015, 03:46:18 PM
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Well, as far as I know Sweden hasn´t suffered US/NATO military "training" so their military probably isn´t largely useless like that of so many others but I doubt it´d have much weight if the mob decided on major operations against the Russians.

In other news I heard that these NATO girliemen exercises coincided with their annual spring meet where they share face cream tips, swap lingerie and do many other fun things together. Good luck, g

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According to the recent numbers from UN, over 6243 people died and 15615 wounded since April 2014 as the result of the was in Donbass:
http://ria.ru/world/20150507/1063161280.html
I would double those numbers, though...

An international group of inspectors from Denmark, containing also inspectors from Canada, Moldavia and Poland) started their work in Donbass. They will start from Kramatorsk, assessing the damage.
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1952713
I wanted to write here, the handiwork... It all sounds like the Kroatian scenario, where an international group assessed the situation, and the next thing you new, Serbs were driven out of their homes.

Court in Harkov prohibits WWII veterans to march through the city on the 9th of May!
http://ria.ru/world/20150507/1063106310.html

9 metro stations in Kiev will have all Soviet symbolism chiselled away from their decorations. Those decorations will probably be preserved in a "communist occupation" museum (like they do it in Baltics)
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1954707
Maybe they should fill up the stations and demolish the Kiev metro altogether, while they are at it - after all it was constructed by the now-much-hated communists, and in very difficult geological conditions, so many stations are very deep...

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May 08, 2015, 09:00:44 AM
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Guys I don't know who else is following this thread apart form Russians and Ukrainians but if you want to make this thread more then just Russian fans propaganda, I suggests placing links to other websites than just those that are sided with Russia. No offence.
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Guys I don't know who else is following this thread apart form Russians and Ukrainians but if you want to make this thread more then just Russian fans propaganda, I suggests placing links to other websites than just those that are sided with Russia. No offence.

I am not taking sides with Russia, but with truth. There are a few Western sites that don't fall for the cheap Ukrainian propaganda that Western MSM reprint with such abundance, and who try to tell people what is really happening in Ukraine in general and Donbass in particular. If you have questions about some publications, do post links to them here and we can look at them together, seeking for the truth of the matter.

Otherwise we have a strange situation in perception: if an article bashes Russia and Russians in Ukraine, then it must be true, otherwise if it tells of suffering of the people there, then it's Russian propaganda...

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May 08, 2015, 03:37:14 PM
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Well, for some reasons admirers of western fascist junk and ukrainian nazi crap never seem to get any traction or staying power here. I wonder why. Good luck, g

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RT reporter Paula Slier forced to flee Ukraine after death threats
http://rt.com/news/255753-rt-correspondent-death-threats/

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RT correspondent Paula Slier, who covered the fire near the Chernobyl nuclear station, has left Ukraine after a local journalist urged security services to detain her. Some commentators were calling for the RT reporter’s death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePJNYNLg96s

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