Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[galdur]

Ah, how surprising NOT.

The country seems to be coming apart.

Can you believe this noise. Clearly nerves are frayed. Something to just shrug off, right ? Why would anybody be angry reading this ?

The militantly pro-Ukrainian Dnipro Battalion leader- turned-MP Yuri Bereza has promised to "burn down Crimea, with all of its residents if needed," vociferously refusing to “liberate the peninsula in a somewhat cultural manner.”

The threat was voiced in a live broadcast on the Ukrainian national TV channel 1+1.
Bereza has already distinguished himself following the scandal over the false photos illustrating an alleged Russian military presence in Ukraine on German TV.

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150217/1018385027.html

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[Nemo1024]

CNN made another Freudian slip, finally acknowledging that Ukraine is a historic part of Russia:



http://russian.rt.com/article/74992?

 

[tee-rex]

CNN made another Freudian slip, finally acknowledging that Ukraine is a historic part of Russia:

More likely that they just don't know geography very well, where Ukraine is.

[BitMos]

CNN made another Freudian slip, finally acknowledging that Ukraine is a historic part of Russia:



http://russian.rt.com/article/74992?

 

man, they are just slow, it's their food, culture and education that put them there... crawling like slaves at the press of ctrl+p controllers... all your daughters belong to us, they said yes, and asked if they could marry them once release for reproduction, it was answered yes, they were very happy. I understand better the meaning of "THESE" that this potus used much...

[Snail2]

CNN made another Freudian slip, finally acknowledging that Ukraine is a historic part of Russia:

More likely that they just don't know geography very well, where Ukraine is.

Perhaps they used a 2016 map...

[Souldream]

If this Pornoshenko guy lasts out this month it´ll be a miracle. Since he is a total puppet of the mob you can just imagine the pile of garbage he has around him, domestic and foreign. I´m sure the U.S. Embassy has a helicopter at the ready on the roof to ship junk out quickly. All this pile of crap has led the Ukraininian military from one disaster to the next and I´m pretty sure that patience is about to run out there. Maybe he´ll end up with an AK-47 up his butt. Stay tuned.

galdur, you might be closer to the mark in the comment above, than you even suspect!

Intel: US Mini-Nukes Delivered to Ukraine; Poroshenko’s Family Urgently Leaves the Country
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/intel-us-mini-nukes-delivered-to-ukraine-poroshenkos-family-urgently-leaves-the-country/

The latest breaking news from Ukraine:

1. The family of Ukraine president Poroshenko has urgently left the country via a charter flight. This means that the situation in the country is much more unstable than is being portrayed, and the true extent of turmoil is being underplayed. It also means that Poroshenko knows that he may be unseated any moment and has negotiated an asylum for his family with his handlers in the West as part of the Minsk agreement. Instead of flying straight back to Kiev after Minsk, Poroshenko actually went to Brussels first where he had undisclosed conversations with EU politicians, including Merkel and Hollande. Undoubtedly, this is where the asylum was negotiated.

...

2. Ukraine sources are reporting that since the population is sabotaging the mobilization, Kiev junta is now conducting a forced mobilization. The military board a city bus and tell women to leave, while all the men who remain on the bus get herded into trucks and sent to the front. People from Zaporozhie (in central Ukraine, one of the cities that wants to join Novorossia) report that national guard breaks into people’s homes and forcefully hauls off the males into the army.

All this is happening after Minsk peace agreements have been signed and as ceasefire is supposed to be in effect in Donbass. Meanwhile, Donbass reports that there is no ceasefire and that Kiev army is consolidating its forces and attacking the positions of self-defence. They have again attempted to take the Donetsk Airport, which, according to Minsk accords, is supposed to be part of the DNR territory.

...

3. German sources report that US military advisors in Ukraine have been busy. According to German intelligence, Americans were able to bring onto the territory of the Debaltsevo cauldron a ‘suitcase’ nuke. It appears US has nothing left to lose after Germany and France broke the ranks and sat down for peace talks with Russia.

...

The potential false flag involving a mini-nuke inside the Debaltsevo cauldron is supposed to be blamed on Russia. Therefore, Russia gets again painted as a villain that detonates nukes in poor Ukraine. This may result in more EU sanctions and in US delivering those lethal weapons they had been threatening to send.

I think next propaganda will be ... USA is sending Godzilla to save UKraina .. please !

Nuke ... you are again whith this stupid propaganda ??

Haa culture ... yes i forget ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzYdrpVN_bQ

[BitMos]

I hope that barry boy doesn't take it on a race scale like always, poor barack is black, poor barack should win in Russia... LoL. It ain't America were the weak of the tribe get ctrl+p support . it's the real world.

edit: btw very nice post  247crypto ! it's one of the biggest viewed topic .

edit 2: is it true that petro has evacuated his family? LoL where? that where to go , but in itself I think it's a stupid move... why? before he had nowhere to go, which put him in a special place, ie not that bad, but once you have somewhere to go, the story change completely. Yats+petro+bidenson as tribute of peace?

[galdur]

I hope that barry boy doesn't take it on a race scale like always, poor barack is black, poor barack should win in Russia... LoL. It ain't America were the weak of the tribe get ctrl+p support . it's the real world.

Obammy hasn´t appeared THAT war hungry to me. But of course congress would love increased turnover of armaments as would their corporate sponsors. And Wall St. appointed/confirmed his administration and advisers anyway.

[BitMos]

I hope that barry boy doesn't take it on a race scale like always, poor barack is black, poor barack should win in Russia... LoL. It ain't America were the weak of the tribe get ctrl+p support . it's the real world.

Obammy hasn´t appeared THAT war hungry to me. But of course congress would love increased turnover of armaments as would their corporate sponsors. And Wall St. appointed his administration and advisers anyway.

he is the king of deceit lies and co, btw is it true the story about playing his discourse in reverse and listening to strange things to say the least 

[galdur]

I hope that barry boy doesn't take it on a race scale like always, poor barack is black, poor barack should win in Russia... LoL. It ain't America were the weak of the tribe get ctrl+p support . it's the real world.

Obammy hasn´t appeared THAT war hungry to me. But of course congress would love increased turnover of armaments as would their corporate sponsors. And Wall St. appointed his administration and advisers anyway.

he is the king of deceit lies and co, btw is it true the story about playing his discourse in reverse and listening to strange things to say the least 

Yeah, I guess that underline is in order 

Don´t know about the reverse speech. You can probably find anything if you spend time playing hours and hours.

[bitgeek]

I see a lot of angry Russians in this thread. You shouldn't be ashamed, you have such a beautiful history of shooting unarmed prisoners in the back of the head (1940), just like ISIS is doing now.

It wasn't about unarmed prisoners, but about deserters.
Enacted by Djugashivi/Stalin - a Georgian.
And now this practice is encated by law in modern Ukraine.
PoWs in USSR got better rations than the Soviet citizens. Get your history strait - historical accuracy is not optional thing to serve your needs.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

Sorry, but it cuts both ways. The Poles also love to lay themselves out on the Battle of Praga in 1794 that was followed by a massacre of the civilian population by Alexander Suvorov's troops. But they forget to mention the slaughter of over half of the Russian garrison in Warsaw a few months earlier, when about 2,000 Russian soldiers had been mercilessly killed. You may ask what the hell the Russian troops were doing in Warsaw back then? This is a good question, but then I may well ask you what the Poles were doing in Moscow in 1612?

Yes I was talking about Katyn. Russians denied responsibility for this until the 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eefn1FyXC9w

Recently some new NKVD orders came to light.
http://www.polskieradio.pl/beb140df-b78c-4035-a4ae-44eee61f8750.file
In the years 1937-38 A lot of Poles living in the territory of the Soviet Union were captured and murdered, just like Jews in Germany at that time, not to mention the Russian attack in 1939, which was called in Poland a backstabbing and was never forgotten. Russia even maintained missile bases and kept troops in Poland until the bitter end of socialism, which by many is viewed as passive occupation.

The relationships between Poland and Russia have never been good, and they got much worse during Putin's reign.

That said, if I met a Russian in a bar I'd rather drink with him than start a fight, so there's no hate here.

[BitMos]

I see a lot of angry Russians in this thread. You shouldn't be ashamed, you have such a beautiful history of shooting unarmed prisoners in the back of the head (1940), just like ISIS is doing now.

It wasn't about unarmed prisoners, but about deserters.
Enacted by Djugashivi/Stalin - a Georgian.
And now this practice is encated by law in modern Ukraine.
PoWs in USSR got better rations than the Soviet citizens. Get your history strait - historical accuracy is not optional thing to serve your needs.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

Sorry, but it cuts both ways. The Poles also love to lay themselves out on the Battle of Praga in 1794 that was followed by a massacre of the civilian population by Alexander Suvorov's troops. But they forget to mention the slaughter of over half of the Russian garrison in Warsaw a few months earlier, when about 2,000 Russian soldiers had been mercilessly killed. You may ask what the hell the Russian troops were doing in Warsaw back then? This is a good question, but then I may well ask you what the Poles were doing in Moscow in 1612?

Yes I was talking about Katyn. Russians denied responsibility for this until the 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eefn1FyXC9w

Recently some new NKVD orders came to light.
http://www.polskieradio.pl/beb140df-b78c-4035-a4ae-44eee61f8750.file
In the years 1937-38 A lot of Poles living in the territory of the Soviet Union were captured and murdered, just like Jews in Germany at that time, not to mention the Russian attack in 1939, which was called in Poland a backstabbing and was never forgotten. Russia even maintained missile bases and kept troops in Poland until the bitter end of socialism, which by many has been viewed as passive occupation.

The relationships between Poland and Russia have never been good, and they got much worse during Putin's reign.

That said, if I met a Russian in a bar I'd rather drink with him than start a fight, so there's no hate here.

hey super genius, why can't you concentrate on your personal history, how your own slaved under the thumb of the ctrl+p team? too hard? or simply following the doctrine? haha, pikers.

[galdur]

Footage of Ukrainian troops surrender in Debaltsevo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8pamTYiVoU

The fall of Debaltsevo - Murad Gazdiev on 'cauldron' aftermath

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ZysuIgkRM

[Nemo1024]

I see a lot of angry Russians in this thread. You shouldn't be ashamed, you have such a beautiful history of shooting unarmed prisoners in the back of the head (1940), just like ISIS is doing now.

It wasn't about unarmed prisoners, but about deserters.
Enacted by Djugashivi/Stalin - a Georgian.
And now this practice is encated by law in modern Ukraine.
PoWs in USSR got better rations than the Soviet citizens. Get your history strait - historical accuracy is not optional thing to serve your needs.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

Sorry, but it cuts both ways. The Poles also love to lay themselves out on the Battle of Praga in 1794 that was followed by a massacre of the civilian population by Alexander Suvorov's troops. But they forget to mention the slaughter of over half of the Russian garrison in Warsaw a few months earlier, when about 2,000 Russian soldiers had been mercilessly killed. You may ask what the hell the Russian troops were doing in Warsaw back then? This is a good question, but then I may well ask you what the Poles were doing in Moscow in 1612?

Yes I was talking about Katyn. Russians denied responsibility for this until the 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eefn1FyXC9w

Recently some new NKVD orders came to light.
http://www.polskieradio.pl/beb140df-b78c-4035-a4ae-44eee61f8750.file
In the years 1937-38 A lot of Poles living in the territory of the Soviet Union were captured and murdered, just like Jews in Germany at that time, not to mention the Russian attack in 1939, which was called in Poland a backstabbing and was never forgotten. Russia even maintained missile bases and kept troops in Poland until the bitter end of socialism, which by many is viewed as passive occupation.

The relationships between Poland and Russia have never been good, and they got much worse during Putin's reign.

That said, if I met a Russian in a bar I'd rather drink with him than start a fight, so there's no hate here.

A lot of things would make more sense if people started to use Soviets instead of Russians, when talking about the time when Russia was under Soviet Union. It would create a better foundation of historical understanding.

About Soviet (not Russian) bases. Isn't is much the same as NATO bases now? 

There are many things that Russians remember about Poles, that are not good, so as tee-rex said - it cuts both ways.
One does not even have to go as far occupation of Moscow in 1612. Poles came into modern Russian territory in 1918-1920 during the Soviet-Polish war, when Polish army occupied most of today's Ukraine and was stopped by the Red Army after a lot of bitter fighting. That operation, by the way, was performed with the blessing of USA, GB and France.

As for Putin, what is it that Putin did to Poland to worsen the relationships (except, of course, from the fact of still breathing)? So far I've seen quite a lot of negativity coming against Russia from the Polish top brass. Interestingly, I didn't feel the same negativity from the citizens, when I visited Poland. So, maybe people just need to come together and talk
I found an echo of it in the following article in a Russian newspaper, that I translated
http://stanislavs.org/the-sorrow-of-a-warsaw-woman-why-poland-is-not-happy-to-be-liberated-from-fascism/

[BitMos]

Dear Nemo,

Poland is (was) a reserve for cheap girls for phat germans (having access to ctrl+p).

regards,

[tee-rex]

I see a lot of angry Russians in this thread. You shouldn't be ashamed, you have such a beautiful history of shooting unarmed prisoners in the back of the head (1940), just like ISIS is doing now.

It wasn't about unarmed prisoners, but about deserters.
Enacted by Djugashivi/Stalin - a Georgian.
And now this practice is encated by law in modern Ukraine.
PoWs in USSR got better rations than the Soviet citizens. Get your history strait - historical accuracy is not optional thing to serve your needs.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

Sorry, but it cuts both ways. The Poles also love to lay themselves out on the Battle of Praga in 1794 that was followed by a massacre of the civilian population by Alexander Suvorov's troops. But they forget to mention the slaughter of over half of the Russian garrison in Warsaw a few months earlier, when about 2,000 Russian soldiers had been mercilessly killed. You may ask what the hell the Russian troops were doing in Warsaw back then? This is a good question, but then I may well ask you what the Poles were doing in Moscow in 1612?

Yes I was talking about Katyn. Russians denied responsibility for this until the 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eefn1FyXC9w

Recently some new NKVD orders came to light.
http://www.polskieradio.pl/beb140df-b78c-4035-a4ae-44eee61f8750.file
In the years 1937-38 A lot of Poles living in the territory of the Soviet Union were captured and murdered, just like Jews in Germany at that time, not to mention the Russian attack in 1939, which was called in Poland a backstabbing and was never forgotten. Russia even maintained missile bases and kept troops in Poland until the bitter end of socialism, which by many is viewed as passive occupation.

You are trying to draw absolutely wrong analogies here. I mean your analogy between Jews in Germany and Poles in Russia doesn't hold water whatever. NKVD, as you call them, didn't tell between Poles and Russians. Actually, they didn't distinguish between nationalities at all.

[BitMos]

and the world seems to gravitate around them... lol... pols...

[galdur]

"If you take Debaltsevo, I'll run naked around Kiev carrying the Russian flag"--Euromaidan activists make commitments

2/18/2015

Now, where do I need to go to see that?

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

The Euromaidan twitter message depicted above runs as follows:

“Dull-snouted Russians. You’ll take a dick in your mouth, not Debaltsevo. If by some miracle you take Debaltsevo, I’ll run naked around Kiev carrying the Russian flag. You Russian scum…”

Meanwhile in Debaltsevo...

http://fortruss.blogspot.com.tr/2015/02/if-you-take-debaltsevo-ill-run-naked.html

[BitMos]

what is funny is how the western capitals (sinners) are all saying that since this town was finally saved (pow), it's clear that there is no will of peace from the Russian side, and that all out war must ensue... anyway, they will do everything to protect their pigs a la dsk. Enjoy.

[tee-rex]

"If you take Debaltsevo, I'll run naked around Kiev carrying the Russian flag"--Euromaidan activists make commitments

2/18/2015

Now, where do I need to go to see that?

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

The Euromaidan twitter message depicted above runs as follows:

“Dull-snouted Russians. You’ll take a dick in your mouth, not Debaltsevo. If by some miracle you take Debaltsevo, I’ll run naked around Kiev carrying the Russian flag. You Russian scum…”

Meanwhile in Debaltsevo...

http://fortruss.blogspot.com.tr/2015/02/if-you-take-debaltsevo-ill-run-naked.html

I'm curious whether it would be worth seeing? I mean who is allegedly going to run naked across Kiev, some creep?