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March 08, 2015, 06:30:07 PM
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Lenin also have said that state-controlled capitalism can serve as a springboard for socialism.



That's exactly what we see in the modern China.
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March 08, 2015, 07:49:03 PM
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Lenin also have said that state-controlled capitalism can serve as a springboard for socialism.



That's exactly what we see in the modern China.

Winston Churchill once said "It is a socialist idea that making profits is a vice. I consider the real vice is making losses".
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March 08, 2015, 08:21:20 PM
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The invasion of Afghanistan was a landmark shift in Soviet military tactics. Departing from half a century of slow, plodding, "smother the enemy with raw power" tactics, the Soviet military leadership adopted the lightning strike. Overnight, the Soviets had captured the Kabul airfield and had surrounded the capital city with tanks.4

Tanks? In an overnight invasion? How did 30-ton Soviet tanks roll from the Soviet border to the interior city of Kabul in one day? What about the rugged Afghan terrain?

The answer is simple: there are two highways from the Soviet Union to Kabul, including one which is 647 miles long. Their bridges can support tanks. Do you think that Afghan peasants built these roads for yak-drawn carts? Do you think that Afghan peasants built these roads at all? No, you built them.

In 1966, reports on this huge construction project began to appear in obscure U.S. magainzes. The project was completed the following year. It was part of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. Soviet and U.S.' engineers worked side by side, spending U.S. foreign aid money and Soviet money, to get the highways built. One strip of road, 67 miles long, north through the Salang Pass to the U.S.S.R., cost $42 million, or $643,000 per mile. John W. Millers, the leader of the United National survey team in Afghanistan, commented at the time that it was the most expensive bit of road he had ever seen. The Soviets trained and used 8,000 Afghans to build it.5

If there were any justice in this world of international foreign aid, the Soviet tanks should have rolled by signs that read: "U.S. Highway Tax Dollars at Work."

-Gary North, foreword to Antony C. Sutton´s The Best Enemy Money Can Buy

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/best_enemy/foreword.htm

Again thank you for answering me kindly honestly and in a way I can get the answer I wanted, it's very gracious from you. I hope to be able to have interesting question to me to be able to ask, but apart when the west (aka the mob parasite) will definitively be eradicated from the Earth and Universe I don't have any more. Wish you a pleasant what ever.

best of all.

and about the "they said" remember that between the wolf howling and the whirle of the sound of the wind, all truth are said, so what "they said" is long gone, and forward in the sync of the transition to stay (how brutual unfriendly or irrpespectufl of the past moment, it isn't the moment, we are, they aren't.).

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March 08, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
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And best of luck to you BitMos and others here, g

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March 08, 2015, 08:39:04 PM
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And best of luck to you bitmos and others here, g

like americans (real before they got conquered used to say) see you in the after life (or the new beginning who knows) in the meantime, hf Cheesy and gl. kindly.

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March 08, 2015, 08:47:44 PM
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And best of luck to you bitmos and others here, g

like americans (real before they got conquered used to say) see you in the after life (or the new beginning who knows) in the meantime, hf Cheesy and gl. kindly.

Well, I don´t have any problems with regular Americans, you´ll never see me bash them. Their horrible leadership and its awful owners in corporate rat holes and other places of very low repute, now that´s another matter entirely.

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March 09, 2015, 06:59:57 AM
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And best of luck to you bitmos and others here, g

like americans (real before they got conquered used to say) see you in the after life (or the new beginning who knows) in the meantime, hf Cheesy and gl. kindly.

Well, I don´t have any problems with regular Americans, you´ll never see me bash them. Their horrible leadership and its awful owners in corporate rat holes and other places of very low repute, now that´s another matter entirely.

also don't have problems with Americans,
but they dont have real info about their gov. imperial. crimes

Their leadership controls media, food weather...


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March 09, 2015, 08:14:00 AM
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Mister Prezidiente: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMrcc1DsLWw&t=294 Grin
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March 09, 2015, 10:25:14 PM
Last edit: March 09, 2015, 10:42:33 PM by Nemo1024
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The mob is clearly going full bonkers, Now, Strangelove sorry Breedlove, mob supreme military nutjob in Europe is shooting his mouth off.

Germany slams NATO European commander’s comments on Ukraine as ‘dangerous propaganda’ – Spiegel

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A top NATO European commander’s exaggerated comments on the Ukrainian conflict are ‘dangerous propaganda,’ and put the West at risk of losing credibility, sources in the German Chancellor’s Office told Der Spiegel.

General Philip Breedlove made harsh remarks on the situation in Ukraine on Wednesday, saying that the self-defense forces, with the assistance of Russia, have prepared “over a thousand combat vehicles” and “sophisticated air defense, battalions of artillery” in the south-east of the country.


“What is clear is that right now it is not getting better, it is getting worse every day,” NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) concluded.

The comments came on the same day as the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) stressed that progress in the fulfillment of the Minsk peace deal between Ukrainian government and the militias in Donetsk and Lugansk Regions.

http://rt.com/news/238673-germany-nato-propaganda-ukraine/

In today's interview with the press, the government of DNR demanded that Breedlove/NATO either makes a retraction or specifies the facts that his accusations are based on, in direct opposition to what OCSE is observing.

There were 25 violations by Ukrainians today, none of the provocations elicited response from Donetsk forces.

People there are busy rebuilding and returning to the live in a semblance of peace. Mine sweepers need to clear mines from the fields in preparation for the agricultural season (also last year's unharvested and lost crop needs to be cleared). In Debalcevo they are busy rebuilding railway and reparing locomotives that Ukrainians blew up and sabotaged while retreating.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 09, 2015, 10:40:05 PM
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Ah, yes! Politicians practicing the art of deception. Generals clamoring for war. Cash registers ringing. Thank goodness those pesky Krauts are all over it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=STlBnCePeNQ

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March 10, 2015, 04:17:59 PM
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Serious problem Russian team, how could we be ever friend? you want to incarcerate me for undetermined duration for the use of a plant of the creation. How would you react if the situation was reversed? I don't expect a response, how could you, as it would have to be an individual one. big serious problem. What are my solution(s) toward the problem you cause me?

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March 10, 2015, 08:17:48 PM
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As expected, crappy mob gear helps the Ukrainian military swirl even faster down the crapper. Now for the advisers and trainers to put it out of its misery for good´

British "non-lethal" aid proves lethal...to the Ukrainian military

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/03/british-non-lethal-aid-proves-lethalto.html

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March 11, 2015, 02:52:12 PM
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niet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWUox7iZ2yI& Grin
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March 11, 2015, 09:34:40 PM
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11.03.2015 Ukrainian crisis news. Latest news of Ukraine, BRICS, UK, IMF, NATO

The Saker Falcon is a large hierofalcon, larger than the Lanner Falcon and almost as large as Gyrfalcon at 47-55cm length with a wingspan of 105-129cm. Its broad blunt wings give it a silhouette similar to Gyrfalcon, but its plumage is more similar to a Lanner Falcon's.

http://thesaker.is/11-03-2015-ukrainian-crisis-news-latest-news-of-ukraine-brics-uk-imf-nato/



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March 11, 2015, 10:06:58 PM
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Bayern Munich are into their fourth successive Champions League quarter-final after thrashing 10-man Shakhtar Donetsk in the last-16 second leg.
Thomas Muller's penalty opener came after Olexandr Kucher received the quickest red card in competition history for a third-minute foul.

Andriy Pyatov looks after the ball as Mario Goetze scores the 7th. Photograph: Odd Anderson/AFP/Getty Images



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March 12, 2015, 09:36:27 AM
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Bayern Munich are into their fourth successive Champions League quarter-final after thrashing 10-man Shakhtar Donetsk in the last-16 second leg.
Thomas Muller's penalty opener came after Olexandr Kucher received the quickest red card in competition history for a third-minute foul.

Andriy Pyatov looks after the ball as Mario Goetze scores the 7th. Photograph: Odd Anderson/AFP/Getty Images



Wow, the stadium is huge and the tribunes are full of people... If I'm not mistaken, the training base of Shakhtar Donetsk is now located somewhere in Western Ukraine, so it doesn't come off as surprise that they had been thrashed (no politics, just bad luck exacerbated by the lack of home)... Cool   

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March 12, 2015, 11:46:47 AM
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deisik, this was their second game and was played in Munich. The first one was in Donetsk on Feb. 17th and ended 0-0.

Donbass Arena


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March 12, 2015, 12:09:25 PM
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deisik, this was their second game and was played in Munich. The first one was in Donetsk on Feb. 17th and ended 0-0.

Donbass Arena



I guess I know why the match ended in a draw (if it really had been played in Donetsk). It may be that the Bayern Munich team were afraid not to make it back home in the case they happened to trash Shakhtar there. I'm still singularly curious why they didn't refuse to play in Donetsk at all... Roll Eyes

Yet, the draw may be a symbol of solidarity with Donetsk people!

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Provocations from Ukro-troops in Donbass continue. Since the start of the "regime of silence", the ceasefire, more than 400 violations were registered, all reported by DNR and LNR to OCSE observers. One of the problems is that the Nazional Gurad punisher battalions do not acknowledge Poroshenko and the Minsk agreements. During one of the latest forays of the Nazis into the territory of DNR, they attacked from the direction of Mariupol, but were stopped, their swastica-bearing battalion banner captured.



Suicide Or Homicide? In Ukraine, Old-Guard Officials Dying Mysteriously
http://www.rferl.org/content/suicide-homicide-ukraine-officials/26888375.html

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This year Ukraine has seen a bizarre string of deaths involving high-ranking officials, including a ex-city mayor, a former railway executive, and the former head of the state body in charge of privatization.
 
A total of five officials died in a single 34-day period between January 28 and February 28. In each case, the deaths have been ruled probable suicides. But the victims' political allegiances and job histories have led many in Ukraine to suspect that the men were in fact murdered:



And good news.

Russian 15-year-old schoolgirl and 4 times powerlifter world champion, Marjana Naumova was in USA at ArnoldBenchBach in Ohio and after setting a new world record, gave to Arnold Schwarzenegger letters from the children of Donbass. She translated them herself, and Arnold took them in hand personally. Children were asking Mr. Terminator to come and save them. After she visited Donbass and gave children there charity exercises, she was stripped of all her Ukrainian titles and medals by a Ukrainian sports commission. Her coach was then denied visum to the USA because of his charge’s visit to Donbass.

http://www.aif.ru/sport/other/1462834
http://www.ntv.ru/sport/1356104/



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March 12, 2015, 08:02:41 PM
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deisik, not sure why you´d doubt that they played in Donetsk last month.

Well, Shakhtar is no pushover and in fact the Germans were saying before the match yesterday that they´re good enough to play in the Bundesliga. Not sure if there´s some deeper meaning and they plan to expand to the east, who knows. But I guess anybody can get whacked at Bayern´s home ground, not least being a man down after three minutes.


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